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Fully enjoyed your commentary, I was reading Genesis and there were questions in my heart that led me here. Thank you!! That makes the mind go mmmm. Yeah I see where you coming from. Glory to the Most High!!!
I think everybody is overthinking this or trying to find a reasonable explanation that doesn't exist. Some stories are just narrative. This is his interpretation, but I would recommend reading it yourself.
That’s why they say do not drink Alcohol to the point where you blackout and don’t remember doing things because even God’s Most Righteous man fell into satan’s trap
Wow, a lot of content in such a short video. I always think of Lot as someone selfish and not up to the task, for example when he chooses the fertile bank of the Jordan instead of giving that place to Abraham, who is after all his adoptive father. Also, he has to be rescued twice, and the second time he seems too lazy to get out of Gomorrah and the angels almost have to push him away. Now I see that there is another detail in his last story that had gone unnoticed to me but fits the profile: he is too lazy to find a husband for his daughters. Thanks for sharing.
You're welcome! These insights actually emerged from a Bible study group where we studied this story for many weeks. It's fascinating how connected everything is and how much the author is communicating through the allusions.
Have you ever considered that Noah got drunk by accident? Prior to the flood, there was no corruption process; everything lasted forever. Turning grape juice into wine is brought about by fermenting which is a corrupting process. Ergo, Noah was drinking grape juice which had corrupted into wine. In other words, Noah's drunkenness was an accident. I'm not "all in" on this, but it is interesting to think about.
Starting to read through scripture and am constantly amazed by the complexity of what I read. This was a story I knew I could not understand on my own, and you were great at explaining the parallels! Going to be looking through this channel for insight as I read!
Please read below Did Prophet Lot offer his daughters to homosexual men? Did he commit incest with his daughters, as the Bible says? question Several questions have come up regarding the story of Lot recounted in the Bible: 1. Did Prophet Lot offer to marry his daughters to homosexual men? 2. Did he commit incest with his daughters, as the Bible says? Concise answer The two accounts of the story of Prophet Lot (pbuh) in the Holy Quran and Bible contain many commonalities. It can even be said that they share the same fundamentals; the only difference lying in the incest of his daughters with their father. The Quran not only makes no mention of this, but according to Islamic teachings, this part of the story is an addition made later and an alteration in the original Torah and is in contradiction with the infallibility of the prophets. We also know his daughters to be pure and chaste who were saved from the punishment of their people. Therefore, such an act by them is totally refuted. Much of what is found in the Bible today is not accepted by the Muslims. On the other hand, what has been mentioned in the Quran is completely accepted and also in compliance with human and religious principles. The only point remaining vague in the story of Lot in the Quran that has also been mentioned in the Bible is the matter of him saying: "O my people! Here are my daughters…"; the question is how can a prophet of God 'offer' his daughters to the disbelievers and misguided?! The answer is, what Lot meant when he 'offered' his daughters was for them to get married to them, not that they satisfy their sexual urges through fornication; it would never happen for a prophet to ever offer his daughters for such an ugly act, it in no way reads with the rank of prophethood. Detailed Answer In order to answer this question, it is necessary that we briefly recount the story of Prophet Lot from both the Quran and Bible's perspective: The story of Lot in the Quran This story has been recounted several times in different chapters of the Holy Quran and words on it can also be found in Islamic traditions. Here, relying on verses of surah Hijr and other surahs, this story will be mentioned: "So when the messengers came to Lot's family, he said," You are indeed strangers [to me]. They said," Rather we bring you what they used to doubt. We bring you the truth, and indeed we speak truly. Take your family in a watch of the night; and follow in their rear, and none of you should turn round, and proceed as you are bidden." We apprised him of the matter that these will be rooted out by dawn. The people of the city came, rejoicing. He said," These are indeed my guests. Do not bring dishonour on me. Be wary of Allah and do not humiliate me." They said," Did we not forbid you for [defending] strangers?" He said," These are my daughters, [marry them] if you should do anything."[1] Certainly they even solicited of him his guests, whereat We blotted out their eyes, [saying] "Taste My punishment and My warnings!"[2] "So the Cry seized them at sunrise, and We made its topmost part its nethermost, and rained on them stones of shale!"[3] "So We delivered him and his family, except his wife; she was one of those who remained behind."[4] The story of Lot in the Bible "And there came two angels to Sodom at even…and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house…But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round…and they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? Bring them out unto us, that we may know them. Lot went out at the door unto them…and said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring themout unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes. Only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof…But the men [the two angels] put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door. And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness...whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place, for we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it…Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven…and he overthrew those citiesand all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground. But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt. And Lot went up out of Zo'ar…he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters…And the firstborn said unto the younger…come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose…And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose…Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father".[5] These were brief accounts of the story of Lot in the Quran and Bible. They have many similarities, it can even be said that they share the same general points and fundamentals, other than the incest of his daughters with their father; the Quran not only makes no mention of this, but according to Islamic teachings, this part of the story is an addition made later and an alteration in the original Torah and is in contradiction with the infallibility of the prophets. We also know his daughters to be pure and chaste who were saved from the punishment of their people. Therefore, such an act by them is totally refuted. Much of what is found in the Bible today is not accepted by the Muslims. On the other hand, what has been mentioned in the Quran is completely accepted and is also in compliance with human and religious principles. It seems that the only point remaining vague in the story of Lot in the Quran that has also been mentioned in the Bible is the matter of him saying: "O my people! Here are my daughters…"; the question is how can a prophet of God 'offer' his daughters to the disbelievers and misguided?! Relying on the generic rules and principles that can be derived from the Quran, commentators have asserted under the verse "قَالَ یَا قَوْمِ هَؤُلَاءِ بَنَاتىِ هُنَّ أَطْهَرُ لَکُم"[6] that the sentence "هؤُلاءِ بَناتِی" has been added the clause "هُنَّ أَطْهَرُ لَکُمْ" (they are purer for you) to show that what Lot meant by 'offering' his daughters was that he was asking the people to marry them, not to commit the ugly act of fornication with them and satisfy their illegitimate desires through such; it is impossible for one with the status of prophethood to ever make such a suggestion. There is no purity and chastity in fornication, as the Quran says: "And do not approach fornication. It is indeed an indecency and an evil way"[7]. The prohibition of fornication is a law that God has enacted in all divine religions. It had also been enacted during Lot's time. So, the clause "هُنَّ أَطْهَرُ لَکُمْ" is the greatest evidence that what Lot was intending was marriage, not fornication.[8] Also, the goal of Prophet Lot in suggesting the sinners to marry his daughters, while his daughters were a small number compared to the sinners, was to leave them no excuse and show to what extremes he was willing to go to, to save the face of his guests and save his people of the swamp of corruption[9]. Clearly, suggesting marriage with such an intention not only isn't wrong, but is also applauded.
Part of the reason for this whole story is premised by the fact that LOT does NOT want to be JOINED with ABRAHAM. “ESCAPE TO THE MOUNTAIN”- Flee to Abraham who is dwelling in the mountain - as it is said, (Genesis 12:8) “And he removed his tent thence unto the mountain”. He was still dwelling there, as it is said, (Genesis 13:3) “[And he went unto] … the place where his tent had been at first”, and although it is stated (Genesis 13:18) “And Abraham moved his tent etc.”, he had many tents and they stretched as far as Hebron. In comparison to ABRAHAM - LOT FEARS to be SEEN as EVIL. Whilst in SODOM he appeared as righteous in comparison to WICKEDNESS. He was AFRAID to come to the LIGHT and DO GOOD. PRIDE was in his heart. STILL then LOT was UNCOVERED by his daughters…..and in doing so revealed that they had NOT be taught to DO GOOD but their FATHER had tried to OFFER them to the wolves (Gen 19:8).
I see the correlation between God covering Adam and Eve and Noah's sons covering him but I just don't see how you were able to go 10 chapters before getting to that
Age difference between the two 1st cousins Lot and Isaac must have been really big. Lot seem to already became a grandfather before his younger cousin was born.
It's hard to tell. The first explicit laws are found in Lev 18, so quite a bit later. There is no indication in the text of Genesis that Abraham and Sarah's marriage was wrong. To the contrary, both God and the author of Genesis repeatedly emphasize that they are husband and wife and make it clear that no one should interfere with their union. In the story of Lot and his daughter, on the other hand, their roles as father and daughters is emphasized and, as I tried to show in the video, there are a number of textual indicators that what they did was wrong.
@@micah4242 great point, never could understand that. Same could be said for Abraham who kept lying and deceiving people about his wife/sister yet would continue to be blessed more and more by deception
Moses is an interesting narrator. He was “biased” (not in a bad way!), but he wrote so many types of textual genres that a neutral perspective would be a significant change in his way of writing. Thank you for the insights.
Abrham told his servant to go to his family and find a wife for issac that was abrahams doingand issac married his cousin same with jacob he married his 2 cousin and moses parents were aunt nephew
The story of Lot and his daughters in the cave following the story of Lot and his daughters in Sodom seems a lot less significant when you consider that they are two parts of the same story of Lot leaving Sodom. Putting them together makes a lot more sense than inserting the story of Moses confronting Pharaoh, then going back to the story of Lot in the cave.Honestly, I don't know where else you're supposed to put that story. In someways the story doesn't make sense. Conception isn't normally a once and done. It can happen, but normally it takes several tries. And for two women to conceive on the first try is statistically highly unlikely. You would have to assume that the story has been changed over time, from Lot lying with his daughters during their stay (multiple incidents) to Lot lying with each daughter only once. The story might have even been altered to give the daughters more responsibility as the culture changed. Or you would have to assume that God approved, for two such pregnancies to be successful on the first try. It would indicate divine intervention to overcome long odds of success. I can see this starting as a story of filial piety. After all, the concern wasn't that there were no other men in the world. They had just passed a city filled with people. But there was no one to continue their father's line. In those days it was believed that the man produced the seed, with a tiny, fully formed person inside. The woman only provides a fertile field to grow the seed. Or a barren field in which no seed will grow. If their brothers stayed and perished in Sodom, then the only way their father's line could continue would be for him to father new sons. Incest was not a problem in those days. The children of Adam and Eve married each other, and Abraham himself married his half-sister Sarai, child of his father by a different mother. That wasn't a sin until God gave the law to the Israelites in the exodus from Egypt.
You're not telling the not a story correctly. If you remember Noah cursed Cannan his grandson for Ham.. Why? Because He had uncovered his father's nakedness. In the law it says a husbands nakedness is his wife. He had cursed his grandson because his son had raped his mother. And all of those who came from Cannan became The Cannanites. There would have been no reason to curse his grandson for this if it wasn't so.
You need lot of mental gymnastics in order to sanitize this story. I’m sure it will be used at the next school board meeting to defend the Bible while attempting to ban other books
@@scottymeffz5025 Well, this was a story of what happened when someone didn't trust God, or at least completely. You know how doctors always say, When you start taking antibiotics, you need to finish the prescription? Same deal. If you start trusting God, you need to commit to the whole journey. If you bail halfway through, you end up with more problems than if you never start. The Bible even says that! That said, God doesn't force us to trust Him, and He doesn't ask us to step out into the journey with no basis for belief that He will be a reliable Guide. That's been my experience. 🙂 Blessings!
@@LeahRichards Thanks for your message Leah :) Both my father and a friend of his had heart problems, and both of them were told by their doctor to take blood thinners. When issues arose my father's friend continued to take the medicine on doc's advice, but my dad refused to say those drugs were going to kill him. My father's friend is sadly no longer with us but thankfully, my father is. Therefore you should stop trusting god. Do you see how dumb your analogy is? Also... he does ask us to step out into the journey with no basis for belief. That's why you'd need faith, rather than evidence.
@@scottymeffz5025 No, I don't see the problem with my analogy. You provided a similar analogy with an opposing principle; that does not negate my analogy. If you disagree with it, I accept it. I disagree with your statement that God asks us to step into the journey with no basis for belief. If you care to read on, here's why: God's loving provision surrounds us in many forms. It is most clearly seen in nature where mankind has not polluted the environment completely. Consider the diversity of the wildflowers, the blue of the sky, the green of the foliage, all fitting perfectly with our need for beauty and loveliness in order to have a happy life. My God gives me fresh air and sunshine every day. He provides for the birds and other creatures of His making, although man's selfishness harms them. To quote Jesus, "If God so clothes the grass of the field, how much more will He clothe you, oh you of little faith?" I have decided that God's provision for these daily things is sufficient evidence to trust that my faith in other trials will be rewarded. My trust in God's provision for the future is based on experiences of His provision in the past. It requires faith, but it is based on evidence. 🙂
@@LeahRichards i provided a similar analogy with a negative for a clear reason. If you do not accept my analogy you should see that you cannot accept your own. Savvy?
I’m sorry but did you even watch the whole video? He clearly explained that Lots daughters took their own measures instead of waiting on God to provide a solution. They chose to do that.
@@Olimpiamontoya I'm not sure why you view this regular ass dude's explanation of the, obviously horrible actions, of people who are god's servants as more important than what the bible actually says. You seem cool with it though, yeah? So my comment applies to you too. Just admit it's horrible and stop apologizing for god.
All this skipping around did not explain their perverse actions and why they were saved. OK they did something wrong because they are messed up so why were these weirdos saved?
There's no indication Lot's daughters were saved. As far as Lot being saved, he was, and this story never implicates his culpability for a) getting drunk or b) having sex with them. Still, very distressing story nonetheless.
They were saved from the city because a) they belonged to Lot's family, b) they allowed the men/angels to lead them out of the city and c) they did not look back like Lot's wife. There is no indication they had partaken of the sins of Sodom for which the city was destroyed. In fact, Lot himself says that they are virgins at the time when the city was destroyed. Their actions in the following story, however, suggest that life in Sodom had had an effect on them.
@@MasterpieceBible And you really but that... An omnipotent being who is so petty that he allegedly turns someone into a pillar of salt for looking back!?!?! And if it's about "obedience" or what not then how does the omnipotent being not already know what his creations will do. This, I have to destroy my own "children/creations" more than once shows as major failures on such an omnipotent being the likes of being embarrassing! Either he/it knows all and everyone's begining and end or it/he doesn't. Meanwhile, Adam and Eve and Noah and his family re/populating the earth due to limited gene pools and Abraham marrying his half sister Sara/i was perfectly fine??? Jacob marrying his Cousin/s whom were also sisters; Rachel and Leah, was perfectly fine and Consanguinity of the first degree of first cousins is still commonly practiced in Israel and much of the middle east today. Then there is the whole aspect of Leviticus in the Torah that does not specifically mention incest between father and daughter, but only of every one else.
@@MasterpieceBible How can you pretend to know more than what the book says? How can you make a video telling us why it’s permissible in gods eyes for a man to do this to his daughters? Your god is a monster. Hope you only ever have sons.
@@ZamairAsim The authors manipulated God's holy word? So your god is too weak to stop them from doing that or too stupid to know they would do it. Which one?
See the story of Lot , he pregnant his two daughters, according to your Bible it is not sins. David and Solomon aldo also did sins. They are the prophets of Bible.
There is more to it than that LeeHyun - you need to look at the context for the lesson. Those who SIN suffer consequences not just on them but MANY around them. The understanding is ADAM (mankind) SINS because of the FIRST transgression of NOT OBEYING the commandment of Elohim from the beginning. KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL but WITHOUT ELOHIM can be used against others instead of BLESSING others and CHOOSING to DO GOOD. It’s TWISTED knowledge rather than PURE knowledge. The HEART is EVIL WITHOUT Yahuah, Elohim but the GOOD NEWS which runs throughout the SCRIPTURES (the VOICE of Elohim) is that HE would COME to CHANGE our hearts to DO GOOD and OBEY HIS COMMANDMENTS from a HEARTS DESIRE to LOVE HIM and LOVE others.
If it happened..it was because of God's will to ensure Lots future generation . Remember GOD made man and women..God did not make marriages and hence terms as daughter, faIf it happened..it was because of God's will. Remember GOD made man and women..God did not make marriages and hence terms as daughter, father , son..wife are all man made with little relevance.ther , son..wife are all man made with little relevance. As procreation just requires Man and Woman....Male and Female.
@@scottymeffz5025 Pray in faith to JESUS WHO IS GOD THE CREATOR..so that you may have the gift of knowledge to grasp the "entire situation" .....and then you will find answers to your pointed queries. In the end....just remember Mans ways are not God's ways...and right and wrong is often a mere perspective point of view basis circumstances.
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Wow Chris God has given you quite a gift to teach and bring out the text!.
Fully enjoyed your commentary, I was reading Genesis and there were questions in my heart that led me here. Thank you!! That makes the mind go mmmm. Yeah I see where you coming from. Glory to the Most High!!!
My pleasure, glad it was helpful!
This is so helpful! Thank you 🙏
I think everybody is overthinking this or trying to find a reasonable explanation that doesn't exist. Some stories are just narrative.
This is his interpretation, but I would recommend reading it yourself.
Wow, this was extremely helpful.
may God bless you, i found this really helpful !
Thanks, appreciate the feedback!
That’s why they say do not drink Alcohol to the point where you blackout and don’t remember doing things because even God’s Most Righteous man fell into satan’s trap
But the daughters planned it
Wow, a lot of content in such a short video.
I always think of Lot as someone selfish and not up to the task, for example when he chooses the fertile bank of the Jordan instead of giving that place to Abraham, who is after all his adoptive father. Also, he has to be rescued twice, and the second time he seems too lazy to get out of Gomorrah and the angels almost have to push him away.
Now I see that there is another detail in his last story that had gone unnoticed to me but fits the profile: he is too lazy to find a husband for his daughters.
Thanks for sharing.
You're welcome! These insights actually emerged from a Bible study group where we studied this story for many weeks. It's fascinating how connected everything is and how much the author is communicating through the allusions.
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Thank you
Deep! 🕊️ thank you! 🙏
4:05 “Doesn’t that remind us of something? Yes. Reports of date rape.
Well done!
Thanks!
Wow amazing. The scriptures truly are a deep treasure
Absolutely! And we're only scratching the surface...
Have you ever considered that Noah got drunk by accident? Prior to the flood, there was no corruption process; everything lasted forever. Turning grape juice into wine is brought about by fermenting which is a corrupting process. Ergo, Noah was drinking grape juice which had corrupted into wine. In other words, Noah's drunkenness was an accident. I'm not "all in" on this, but it is interesting to think about.
Noah’s time is known for its corruption.
Genesis 6:11
11 Now the earth was corrupt in God’s sight and was full of violence.
Starting to read through scripture and am constantly amazed by the complexity of what I read. This was a story I knew I could not understand on my own, and you were great at explaining the parallels! Going to be looking through this channel for insight as I read!
So glad to hear that! Yes, the Bible is amazing. :)
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Did Prophet Lot offer his daughters to homosexual men? Did he commit incest with his daughters, as the Bible says?
question
Several questions have come up regarding the story of Lot recounted in the Bible: 1. Did Prophet Lot offer to marry his daughters to homosexual men? 2. Did he commit incest with his daughters, as the Bible says?
Concise answer
The two accounts of the story of Prophet Lot (pbuh) in the Holy Quran and Bible contain many commonalities. It can even be said that they share the same fundamentals; the only difference lying in the incest of his daughters with their father. The Quran not only makes no mention of this, but according to Islamic teachings, this part of the story is an addition made later and an alteration in the original Torah and is in contradiction with the infallibility of the prophets. We also know his daughters to be pure and chaste who were saved from the punishment of their people. Therefore, such an act by them is totally refuted. Much of what is found in the Bible today is not accepted by the Muslims.
On the other hand, what has been mentioned in the Quran is completely accepted and also in compliance with human and religious principles.
The only point remaining vague in the story of Lot in the Quran that has also been mentioned in the Bible is the matter of him saying: "O my people! Here are my daughters…"; the question is how can a prophet of God 'offer' his daughters to the disbelievers and misguided?! The answer is, what Lot meant when he 'offered' his daughters was for them to get married to them, not that they satisfy their sexual urges through fornication; it would never happen for a prophet to ever offer his daughters for such an ugly act, it in no way reads with the rank of prophethood.
Detailed Answer
In order to answer this question, it is necessary that we briefly recount the story of Prophet Lot from both the Quran and Bible's perspective:
The story of Lot in the Quran
This story has been recounted several times in different chapters of the Holy Quran and words on it can also be found in Islamic traditions. Here, relying on verses of surah Hijr and other surahs, this story will be mentioned:
"So when the messengers came to Lot's family, he said," You are indeed strangers [to me]. They said," Rather we bring you what they used to doubt. We bring you the truth, and indeed we speak truly. Take your family in a watch of the night; and follow in their rear, and none of you should turn round, and proceed as you are bidden." We apprised him of the matter that these will be rooted out by dawn. The people of the city came, rejoicing. He said," These are indeed my guests. Do not bring dishonour on me. Be wary of Allah and do not humiliate me." They said," Did we not forbid you for [defending] strangers?" He said," These are my daughters, [marry them] if you should do anything."[1] Certainly they even solicited of him his guests, whereat We blotted out their eyes, [saying] "Taste My punishment and My warnings!"[2] "So the Cry seized them at sunrise, and We made its topmost part its nethermost, and rained on them stones of shale!"[3] "So We delivered him and his family, except his wife; she was one of those who remained behind."[4]
The story of Lot in the Bible
"And there came two angels to Sodom at even…and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house…But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round…and they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? Bring them out unto us, that we may know them. Lot went out at the door unto them…and said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring themout unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes. Only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof…But the men [the two angels] put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door. And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness...whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place, for we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it…Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven…and he overthrew those citiesand all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground. But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt. And Lot went up out of Zo'ar…he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters…And the firstborn said unto the younger…come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose…And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose…Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father".[5]
These were brief accounts of the story of Lot in the Quran and Bible. They have many similarities, it can even be said that they share the same general points and fundamentals, other than the incest of his daughters with their father; the Quran not only makes no mention of this, but according to Islamic teachings, this part of the story is an addition made later and an alteration in the original Torah and is in contradiction with the infallibility of the prophets. We also know his daughters to be pure and chaste who were saved from the punishment of their people. Therefore, such an act by them is totally refuted. Much of what is found in the Bible today is not accepted by the Muslims.
On the other hand, what has been mentioned in the Quran is completely accepted and is also in compliance with human and religious principles.
It seems that the only point remaining vague in the story of Lot in the Quran that has also been mentioned in the Bible is the matter of him saying: "O my people! Here are my daughters…"; the question is how can a prophet of God 'offer' his daughters to the disbelievers and misguided?! Relying on the generic rules and principles that can be derived from the Quran, commentators have asserted under the verse "قَالَ یَا قَوْمِ هَؤُلَاءِ بَنَاتىِ هُنَّ أَطْهَرُ لَکُم"[6] that the sentence "هؤُلاءِ بَناتِی" has been added the clause "هُنَّ أَطْهَرُ لَکُمْ" (they are purer for you) to show that what Lot meant by 'offering' his daughters was that he was asking the people to marry them, not to commit the ugly act of fornication with them and satisfy their illegitimate desires through such; it is impossible for one with the status of prophethood to ever make such a suggestion. There is no purity and chastity in fornication, as the Quran says: "And do not approach fornication. It is indeed an indecency and an evil way"[7]. The prohibition of fornication is a law that God has enacted in all divine religions. It had also been enacted during Lot's time. So, the clause "هُنَّ أَطْهَرُ لَکُمْ" is the greatest evidence that what Lot was intending was marriage, not fornication.[8]
Also, the goal of Prophet Lot in suggesting the sinners to marry his daughters, while his daughters were a small number compared to the sinners, was to leave them no excuse and show to what extremes he was willing to go to, to save the face of his guests and save his people of the swamp of corruption[9]. Clearly, suggesting marriage with such an intention not only isn't wrong, but is also applauded.
Part of the reason for this whole story is premised by the fact that LOT does NOT want to be JOINED with ABRAHAM. “ESCAPE TO THE MOUNTAIN”- Flee to Abraham who is dwelling in the mountain - as it is said, (Genesis 12:8) “And he removed his tent thence unto the mountain”. He was still dwelling there, as it is said, (Genesis 13:3) “[And he went unto] … the place where his tent had been at first”, and although it is stated (Genesis 13:18) “And Abraham moved his tent etc.”, he had many tents and they stretched as far as Hebron.
In comparison to ABRAHAM - LOT FEARS to be SEEN as EVIL. Whilst in SODOM he appeared as righteous in comparison to WICKEDNESS. He was AFRAID to come to the LIGHT and DO GOOD. PRIDE was in his heart. STILL then LOT was UNCOVERED by his daughters…..and in doing so revealed that they had NOT be taught to DO GOOD but their FATHER had tried to OFFER them to the wolves (Gen 19:8).
I see the correlation between God covering Adam and Eve and Noah's sons covering him but I just don't see how you were able to go 10 chapters before getting to that
Age difference between the two 1st cousins Lot and Isaac must have been really big. Lot seem to already became a grandfather before his younger cousin was born.
Brother when do you believe incest became sin? Was Abraham and Sarah's marriage wrong since they were half siblings.
It's hard to tell. The first explicit laws are found in Lev 18, so quite a bit later. There is no indication in the text of Genesis that Abraham and Sarah's marriage was wrong. To the contrary, both God and the author of Genesis repeatedly emphasize that they are husband and wife and make it clear that no one should interfere with their union. In the story of Lot and his daughter, on the other hand, their roles as father and daughters is emphasized and, as I tried to show in the video, there are a number of textual indicators that what they did was wrong.
That's a great point. The scriptures do validate their marriage . Thanks very helpful
@@rocklee9818 Sure! Thanks for asking.
The bible refers to Lot as “a righteous man.”
@@micah4242 great point, never could understand that. Same could be said for Abraham who kept lying and deceiving people about his wife/sister yet would continue to be blessed more and more by deception
It could also allude the works of God being constantly overdone by the serpent
TO GO REALLY DEEP - how does this STORY link to our Messiah? Because it is spoken of.
Amazing thank you
Moses is an interesting narrator. He was “biased” (not in a bad way!), but he wrote so many types of textual genres that a neutral perspective would be a significant change in his way of writing. Thank you for the insights.
Powerful. Great job
Thanks, Rodlie! The Bible is amazing. 🙂
Abrham told his servant to go to his family and find a wife for issac that was abrahams doingand issac married his cousin same with jacob he married his 2 cousin and moses parents were aunt nephew
Mind blown🤯
The story of Lot and his daughters in the cave following the story of Lot and his daughters in Sodom seems a lot less significant when you consider that they are two parts of the same story of Lot leaving Sodom. Putting them together makes a lot more sense than inserting the story of Moses confronting Pharaoh, then going back to the story of Lot in the cave.Honestly, I don't know where else you're supposed to put that story.
In someways the story doesn't make sense. Conception isn't normally a once and done. It can happen, but normally it takes several tries. And for two women to conceive on the first try is statistically highly unlikely.
You would have to assume that the story has been changed over time, from Lot lying with his daughters during their stay (multiple incidents) to Lot lying with each daughter only once. The story might have even been altered to give the daughters more responsibility as the culture changed.
Or you would have to assume that God approved, for two such pregnancies to be successful on the first try. It would indicate divine intervention to overcome long odds of success.
I can see this starting as a story of filial piety. After all, the concern wasn't that there were no other men in the world. They had just passed a city filled with people.
But there was no one to continue their father's line. In those days it was believed that the man produced the seed, with a tiny, fully formed person inside. The woman only provides a fertile field to grow the seed. Or a barren field in which no seed will grow.
If their brothers stayed and perished in Sodom, then the only way their father's line could continue would be for him to father new sons. Incest was not a problem in those days. The children of Adam and Eve married each other, and Abraham himself married his half-sister Sarai, child of his father by a different mother.
That wasn't a sin until God gave the law to the Israelites in the exodus from Egypt.
You're not telling the not a story correctly.
If you remember Noah cursed Cannan his grandson for Ham.. Why?
Because He had uncovered his father's nakedness. In the law it says a husbands nakedness is his wife. He had cursed his grandson because his son had raped his mother.
And all of those who came from Cannan became The Cannanites.
There would have been no reason to curse his grandson for this if it wasn't so.
Moses penned all of Genesis down ✍️
Notice, Moses wasn’t alive to witness any of this 🤷🏽♂️
Who’s telling the story? ☝🏽✝️
Wow! 🤯
You need lot of mental gymnastics in order to sanitize this story. I’m sure it will be used at the next school board meeting to defend the Bible while attempting to ban other books
A powerful endorsement for trusting in God…
How so?
@@scottymeffz5025 Well, this was a story of what happened when someone didn't trust God, or at least completely.
You know how doctors always say, When you start taking antibiotics, you need to finish the prescription? Same deal.
If you start trusting God, you need to commit to the whole journey. If you bail halfway through, you end up with more problems than if you never start. The Bible even says that!
That said, God doesn't force us to trust Him, and He doesn't ask us to step out into the journey with no basis for belief that He will be a reliable Guide. That's been my experience. 🙂
Blessings!
@@LeahRichards Thanks for your message Leah :) Both my father and a friend of his had heart problems, and both of them were told by their doctor to take blood thinners. When issues arose my father's friend continued to take the medicine on doc's advice, but my dad refused to say those drugs were going to kill him.
My father's friend is sadly no longer with us but thankfully, my father is. Therefore you should stop trusting god.
Do you see how dumb your analogy is?
Also... he does ask us to step out into the journey with no basis for belief. That's why you'd need faith, rather than evidence.
@@scottymeffz5025 No, I don't see the problem with my analogy. You provided a similar analogy with an opposing principle; that does not negate my analogy.
If you disagree with it, I accept it.
I disagree with your statement that God asks us to step into the journey with no basis for belief. If you care to read on, here's why:
God's loving provision surrounds us in many forms. It is most clearly seen in nature where mankind has not polluted the environment completely. Consider the diversity of the wildflowers, the blue of the sky, the green of the foliage, all fitting perfectly with our need for beauty and loveliness in order to have a happy life. My God gives me fresh air and sunshine every day. He provides for the birds and other creatures of His making, although man's selfishness harms them.
To quote Jesus, "If God so clothes the grass of the field, how much more will He clothe you, oh you of little faith?"
I have decided that God's provision for these daily things is sufficient evidence to trust that my faith in other trials will be rewarded. My trust in God's provision for the future is based on experiences of His provision in the past. It requires faith, but it is based on evidence.
🙂
@@LeahRichards i provided a similar analogy with a negative for a clear reason. If you do not accept my analogy you should see that you cannot accept your own. Savvy?
Are you seriously up there trying to make this story moral? Just say it’s horrible and stop apologising for god
I’m sorry but did you even watch the whole video? He clearly explained that Lots daughters took their own measures instead of waiting on God to provide a solution. They chose to do that.
@@Olimpiamontoya I'm not sure why you view this regular ass dude's explanation of the, obviously horrible actions, of people who are god's servants as more important than what the bible actually says.
You seem cool with it though, yeah? So my comment applies to you too. Just admit it's horrible and stop apologizing for god.
God did not do this. Lot's daughters did
@@laurenpatricia411 So this means god is cool, yeah? Did Lots daughters drown the entire world? Which one was a worse action? Which one is a 'sin'?
@@scottymeffz5025 God will deal with all sin.. in his timing..
All this skipping around did not explain their perverse actions and why they were saved. OK they did something wrong because they are messed up so why were these weirdos saved?
There's no indication Lot's daughters were saved. As far as Lot being saved, he was, and this story never implicates his culpability for a) getting drunk or b) having sex with them. Still, very distressing story nonetheless.
Why were they saved if they are also dirty and sinful?
Right omg this was sick
They were saved from the city because a) they belonged to Lot's family, b) they allowed the men/angels to lead them out of the city and c) they did not look back like Lot's wife. There is no indication they had partaken of the sins of Sodom for which the city was destroyed. In fact, Lot himself says that they are virgins at the time when the city was destroyed. Their actions in the following story, however, suggest that life in Sodom had had an effect on them.
@@MasterpieceBible
And you really but that... An omnipotent being who is so petty that he allegedly turns someone into a pillar of salt for looking back!?!?! And if it's about "obedience" or what not then how does the omnipotent being not already know what his creations will do. This, I have to destroy my own "children/creations" more than once shows as major failures on such an omnipotent being the likes of being embarrassing! Either he/it knows all and everyone's begining and end or it/he doesn't. Meanwhile, Adam and Eve and Noah and his family re/populating the earth due to limited gene pools and Abraham marrying his half sister Sara/i was perfectly fine??? Jacob marrying his Cousin/s whom were also sisters; Rachel and Leah, was perfectly fine and Consanguinity of the first degree of first cousins is still commonly practiced in Israel and much of the middle east today. Then there is the whole aspect of Leviticus in the Torah that does not specifically mention incest between father and daughter, but only of every one else.
@@MasterpieceBible How can you pretend to know more than what the book says? How can you make a video telling us why it’s permissible in gods eyes for a man to do this to his daughters? Your god is a monster. Hope you only ever have sons.
@@ZamairAsim The authors manipulated God's holy word? So your god is too weak to stop them from doing that or too stupid to know they would do it.
Which one?
I think you guys always frame these types of things as a question because you don't even know the answer yourself.
Hebrew to Greek to Latin to English, are you sure it’s 100% accurate with no room for misinterpretation?
My analysis is based on the Hebrew text.
Gross and twisted.
See the story of Lot , he pregnant his two daughters, according to your Bible it is not sins. David and Solomon aldo also did sins. They are the prophets of Bible.
There is more to it than that LeeHyun - you need to look at the context for the lesson. Those who SIN suffer consequences not just on them but MANY around them. The understanding is ADAM (mankind) SINS because of the FIRST transgression of NOT OBEYING the commandment of Elohim from the beginning. KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL but WITHOUT ELOHIM can be used against others instead of BLESSING others and CHOOSING to DO GOOD. It’s TWISTED knowledge rather than PURE knowledge. The HEART is EVIL WITHOUT Yahuah, Elohim but the GOOD NEWS which runs throughout the SCRIPTURES (the VOICE of Elohim) is that HE would COME to CHANGE our hearts to DO GOOD and OBEY HIS COMMANDMENTS from a HEARTS DESIRE to LOVE HIM and LOVE others.
If it happened..it was because of God's will to ensure Lots future generation . Remember GOD made man and women..God did not make marriages and hence terms as daughter, faIf it happened..it was because of God's will. Remember GOD made man and women..God did not make marriages and hence terms as daughter, father , son..wife are all man made with little relevance.ther , son..wife are all man made with little relevance.
As procreation just requires Man and Woman....Male and Female.
It was gods will to have two virgin women gang raped? Outstanding example of how your god makes you say evil things.
@@scottymeffz5025 get an education to help you understand better
@@Sav0007 Where should I go to be educated on why god thinks gang-raping virgins is cool?
@@scottymeffz5025 Pray in faith to JESUS WHO IS GOD THE CREATOR..so that you may have the gift of knowledge to grasp the "entire situation" .....and then you will find answers to your pointed queries.
In the end....just remember Mans ways are not God's ways...and right and wrong is often a mere perspective point of view basis circumstances.
@@Sav0007 Ah thank you. May I ask... have you done this?
Nasty 🤢
It is fake story. A prophet of ALLAH can't commit such a big sin. It is added to Bible by people. These can not be words of God.
Omg 😳 y’all are evil like what how is this Jjustified
Christian mental acrobatics at its best 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Jewish /this is the torah, Jesus tried to fight against it). But yes.