2020 Indian Scout! Better Than The Sportster?
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Indian has that....”doesn’t need to be repaired before you buy it” thing.
Silly question. The Scout is 40 years ahead of the Sportster in design and function.
and still 40 years behind any metric bike.
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I’ve never been into motorcycling before nor I’ve considered owning one before until I stumbled on some videos about the Indian Scout range of motorcycles. All of a sudden I’m like on the verge of jumping on a couple of motorcycling courses and go buy one afterward. What a beautiful bike and what a beautiful review coming from a Harlista ;-) great video. Tanks
Excellent review Hegs, nice to see a fellow Hog rider that isn't biased.l reckon they are an amazing mid sized bike as well for the 💰
I picked up my scout in may and I got the jade green/thunder black and man it’s striking I’m absolutely in love with this bike. I’m gonna love it even more when my Rinehart pipes come in and it no longer sounds like a sewing machine
I'm not a Harley expert by any means but I've got a few miles on HD's. I have a 2018 Scout 69 and a 2019 Springfield. I can say this...you can't compare a Sporty to a Scout. They're not even in the same league. Other than nearly the same displacement, there's no comparison. Different look, feel, performance and attitude. And the difference between the water cooled Scout engine and the 1200 Sportster engine is night and day. The Scout is cranking 100 HP to the crank, red-lines at 8300 RPM and will set you back on the seat at 60 MPH, 4K RPM, 4th gear. Twist the throttle and it's off to the races. I will say, the Scout gets kind of buzzy over 80 MPH. I rode my Scout 2-up with the Indian saddle bags, the touring pillion seat and both backrests, for 15K miles. 75 is a comfy highway speed. Anything higher and it's a little quirky. The Sporty has that unrefined, classic, HD feel, and I mean that in a good way. HD has an attitude that no other bike has. For example, I just put 425 miles on my buddy's 2014 Street Glide Special. I love it. Comfy bike and all Harley. Sitting at a stoplight, you can visibly see the engine vibrating and shaking. It's an HD trademark so to speak. Indians just purr and, IMO, are more refined. Again, that's not to speak of quality, it's just a, "Harley Thing", they're an American classic. The Scout, with upgraded slip-ons and intake will do close to a 10 second 1/4 mile if you know how to ride it. After 18K miles my Scout has been solid as a rock. It purrs. And screams. Now, my wife rides it and I ride the Springy.
Harley has an answer for everything coming out next year trust me on this you will forget you ever saw a Scout. Im not talking about the pics you have seen online they are nothing.. These new motors Harley is coming out with is a game changer for Harley !!
@@SolarMarshall where’s this new Harley motor? All they did was put a 114 in the Streetbob
Harley shmarley, indian is where it's at😎
That's a sweet color combo. An Indian classic.
"It's a short run bike especially if you want to get on the highway"
Wyoming: We don't have short runs
This is a great review! Keep up the amazing work and thank you!!
A friend of mine bought a limited edition scout which was delivered last year the day we got back from North. He likes it.
Great video. My plan is to buy a Scout in next few weeks. Was going to by a Harley but I just can’t pass the scout up
Amazing bike and amazing review! I want to get a brand new Scout Bobber Twenty next spring, she's my favorite. But this, well, it makes everything harder than the expected, ahah! NEW SUBSCRIBER MAN! 😜
Great review🤘. I owned plenty of Harleys and other metric cruisers and my 2019 Indian Scout is by far the best cruiser I have ever owned. Every other cruiser I’ve owned always lack something. My Harleys lacked power, handling and a comfortable seat. They also were really hot 🥵 in stop and go traffic.
My metrics lacked power, fit and finish. The scout has it all. The STOCK seat is actually comfortable for more than an hour, the suspension is actually well sorted, the stock power is more than enough to blast my wife and I with all our stuff down the interstate doing 90 plus. It doesn’t get too hot because it’s liquid cooled and the fit and finish is top notch. The scout is also a BOSS looking ride. Indian should be proud that they made a modern scout that lives up to the original.👏
I rode to Sturgis several years ago on my Softail Deluxe. Talk about hot. I literally had a 3 inch blister on my leg from sitting in biker traffic for 2 hours.
Great review brother, keep up the great work
Thanks for that review! I thinkin of gettin this when my birthday comes up! This'll be my first time!
Nice good luck man
I'm still new to riding motorcycles. Have owned, briefly, two HD (Slim and Heritage). I test rode the Indian Scout today and I loved it. So zippy. Solid ride. Solid engineering-feel to it. Very light feel to it. The best word to describe it is FUN!! The Scout would make a perfect entry level bike, but also a fun zippy commuter (2nd) bike for a veteran rider, IMHO. I am so impressed with Indian bikes. Test rode a few recently and they are in their own class. They do seem more refined then HD's (which I also love). But very likely I will buy a Indian very soon. A Springfield, or a Super Chief, or maybe a Scout to hold me over to I save bucks for the Springfield. It's all very good! Check out the Indian bikes if you have never rode one.
I was just at American Biker this past Saturday looking at scouts. I can’t wait until I’m in a position to buy one.
You won't be disappointed with any scout you pick. I got a 2018 scout sixty and have been loving it for 3 seasons now. Do what you gotta do and get it.
In the somewhat local area, I will definitely check them out. Will be picking up either a Scout or Scout Sixty as my first bike very soon.
I have the 2020 Scout Bobber in Matte Black and love it. On that bike there are auto-cancelling turn signals.
Indian seems to be more concerned with the riders than Harley Davidson company does
I am a 4’ 11” rider.. and I started on a 07 HD Sportster XL 1200, and I loved it but was too top heavy for me and harder to maneuver, so 2 months ago I got a 2018 Indian Scout and I love it- lots of power still but easy to maneuver and I highly recommend it! Plus it is super sharp looking!! I do have a heel toe clutch and that helps a lot with the forward controls. Suspension could be better... but way too many positives.
Short riders can get the short reach kit for the pegs and floorboards too
@@jamesfenter3861 What about the opposite. I like the Scout ... but I fear I could be too tall (6'7") for that bike (any bike does not seem to fit, though). Any advices? Thx in advance.
@@RobinHoller they have extended reach seat and bars and think pegs too .I'm 62 and other then the windshield height my wife scout is comfortable for 120 moles plus for me
If you are think about one find a dealer that will let you test ride .or has the demo fleet in ..or some one that will let you ride theirs
I will likely get a scout when with age my chief get to heave
@@jamesfenter3861 Sounds promising, thx. I will give it a try when time has come. Probably at a dealership somewhere since I don't know Indian owners. Here (Germany) they are rather rare. But I adore and favor their style and look ...
I love the 2018 Scout Bobber Jack Daniels edition. But I like the Radar Blue on the Bobber. Need to visit the closest dealer in San Jose, CA
Awesome review... I'm very interested in this bike...subbed
Hey man love your hat and what it stands for, had a scout in the past, agree with your review, fun bike, but not good enough for long distance especially with 2 up reason I upgraded in the same fam.
Moving the handlebar up ,made a huge difference
I have owned a 2016 1200c, 2016 883low, 2005 1200c, 2014 switchback, and a 2010 night train. Now I own a 2019 scout sixty and it is by far sooooo much more superior than a Harley in every way. Not only the bike itself but the motor clothes, the accessories, the mechanic shop, the whole dealership is better. I'm never going back. I do still own a 2019 freewheeler for the wife.
I want something with low end. After riding a sport bike, it's fast but lacked low end. I'm not a pretend racer so not for me. How is the low end torque of the Scout?
Thanks for this review. My last bike was a Fatboy. I want something lighter to handle. I can't stop looking at this bike in Arizona Turquoise color.
thanks for the Video, y'all made me home sick, i used to live in Summerville and now i'm in New Hampshire wishing i was home in Summerville.......cool bike BTW lol
NH best state in the Union.. i live in Belmont.
Im getting a scout sixty krazy horse hooligan next week.cant wait
The first thing I noticed was the motor. that made me look at Indians!!
Just a smidge late to the party, but I gotta say that this bike looks sexy as hell with the saddle seat and 2-into-1 tailpipe options. If it was just a little less expensive, this would honestly probably be something I'd be getting pretty soon. As it stands, probably be a few years (and finishing college) before I'm able to get one of these beauties in that gorgeous red/tan paint. Good goal to work towards, though!
I used to have a Honda Cub that sounded like that😄.
Nice looking bike though, but would need an upgrade pipe, not to loud.
Just enough to give it a bark when you crack open the throttle.
By the way, the guard you were wondering what it was, is to keep the passenger's foot off of the exhaust .
I feel by price point you might as well compare it to the Softail.
Also the 6 gear transmission, stock exhaust, engine size. Better than a sporty sure. More expensive as well.
Great video! I’m signing for a blue Scout on Tuesday as my first bike 😁
Delivery Friday!!
@@CSchaef02 congratulations I hope you enjoy your new bike, let us all know how you like it.
i'm a long time subscriber to your gun channel. I saw you face and i was like, I know this guy!
I have ridden 1000 km , about 600 miles ( for you Yanks ) here in OZ in less then a day, and no problems with comfort.
there is a small lever at the back of the indicater switch that by pulling on it gives you the different things on the cluster. gives you your revs , miles ridden, engine temp , clock , tottall miles , trip miledge.
After 11 months I have 12000 on my 2020...in Ohio...same color scheme as your test bike. I put an S&S intake , straight shorty pipes and a Dynojet with a custom tune and the redline bumped to 8800. I can get it almost to 100 in second before it starts breaking up. Distance test will be next summer as I am registered to ride it in the Hoka Hey Challenge. I don't think anyone has finished the 10,000 miles on a Scout yet. Getting ready to rebuild the fork and swap out the shocks next. Running it to DC this weekend for Rolling Thunder.
They should put the digital tac like on the Chief. I'd buy it in a flash, it's a great looking bike, especially in black
The Sportster is an antique but a good one while the Scout is new technology. The Scout needs an accessory larger touring gas tank so it can have an extended range.
I found the power of the Indian motorcycles off the floor are top notch for the price. I love their metallic blue and emerald green. I love HD too but the Ergonomics of the Indian motorcycles is more refined than HD.
Great review, thanks.
for me what i'll do for my scout is add all the bags there are for like storage and stuff and then get a big windshield, most importantly take out the passenger seat and add a back rest
The reason it puts out so much horsepower: It's an, "over square" engine. In other words, short stroke, fat pistons = high RPM. Torque x (RPM)/5252= HP. The liquid cooling doesn't improve output, it enables it. High RPM engines have to have an overhead cam because push rods don't like all that up/down motion at high RPM and would fail in short order. Due to the shorter jugs in an over-square engine, less area to cool the engine at those higher RPMs therefore water cooling is necessary. If you look at a typically HD, they have taller, skinnier cylinders = more surface area for cooling fins. But, also, lower RPM. Harley hasn't gone this route, I'm assuming, because they don't want to get away from the old-school cooling fin look. But, if they want to catch up to the Challenger, they're going to have to evolve as they'll never get close with an air-cooled engine. Of course, there's other science involved but that the gist of it.
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I love the blue on the Scout
My favorite color ,Indian Motorcycle Red over Thunder Black with Gold Indian war bonnet 2019 its what i own great cruiser!
Hey dude , it has a multi function display button , so it is on left handle bar, at the back.Perhaps if you are going to do a review you should familiarize yourself with the bikes. Ask the dealer .It has a tachometer , low fuel warning lamp, distance traveled on a trip as well as odometer and a voltmeter, and digital clock.4 valves per cylinder , double over head cam, i dont remember you mentioning that, cheers.
On paper it’s the better bike for sure. It’ll keep you entertained for a longer time than the sportster.
It a fun bike to fide as for short runs we done several 150 mile plus day rides she has a mustang seat and does fine the grips are the main short coming
I own a scout icon and I will say, this bike is a keeper. If I get a big highway bike, this one is staying.
I'm keeping my scout 60 for my son. Challenger will be my next bike
Damn good vid for a damb good bike. Well done
Just bought one for commuting and yeah its punchy plenty of power.
Great video!
I prefer mids cuz I'm short and feel more planted blue was my fav color and most likely my next bike
Roland sands makes mid controls for these
@@jmangus83 thanks brother 🤘🏽
I like the yellow and black in Scout of course I like yellow anyways so but it does look good
I live In SoCal and I’m taking my 2018 scout to Las Vegas next week. I can’t wait.
Why would you buy a Harley when this is available? Harley lost my money
Maybe you want less power and pay more?
Harley probably appeals more to the beginner, cheap price for used ones and more available.
That was my thought after test riding several bikes including multiple HDs. I sat on the scout and knew it was my bike immediately. 2021 Indian Scout - took delivery Oct 29th and I have near 3000 miles on it already. ONLY downside is the tank size. But stopping every 100 miles for a rest and a drink is fine with me.
I haven’t finished the video yet and maybe you answer this - can you have a passenger on the bobber? On the base model Indian Scout the seat looks like it extends back, is that for a passenger?
I say it’s better mainly because it’s liquid cooled. Those days of riding hot motors are over. Harley-Davidson has come a ways a bit with the 2014 and up bikes taking more oil and in 2017 with circulation air & oil cooling. Harley-Davidson will most likely upgrade to an enhanced Milwaukee 8 motor with liquid cooling and a gear primary drive.
Here's my thing. A scout is around 6-10k on the used market depending on the year and mileage. I can get a fuel-injected Sportster for 3-6k depending on year and mileage as well. Of course, the scout is better in many ways, BUT, the aftermarket for the Sportster is INSANE. You can easily bump the horsepower up, change the suspension, and really make the bike your own for about what you would spend on the scout or even less. If you don't mind a carb, then that gap widens even more. Of course, there's not much you can do about the heat, but if that's not something that bothers you TOO much, then I would have to go with the Sportster. I'm also someone who loves working on my bikes and changing every little thing on them, if that's not you and you like simple, easy get on and go, then yeah just go ahead and buy the scout. The scout IS a better bike, but sometimes it's about the feel and customization. I think that's why the Sportster does so well. I rode the Scout and let me tell you, it was fantastic. The Octane was even better. In a couple more years, when the price drops a little more on the used bikes, it will be hard to justify NOT buying one over a Sportster. If you are buying new, GET THE SCOUT! If you find one for 6k or less used, GET THE SCOUT! If you are on a budget, have a little to spend, GET THE SPORTSTER. It will last, and you can slowly make it what you want.
yes, that is what I've discovered too just looking at the used marketplace such as Facebook, Craigslist, et al. I want the Indian but they are very, very rare still....Harley's are everywhere and much less expensive!
There is a big bore kit for the scout. The money game is get the scout 60 then the kit and all the peripherals and its up from 999cc to 1500cc and 130+hp for less than the 1200cc scout out the door stock.
HD does have a downside as far as aftermarket parts. If you put any NON Screaming Eagle performance parts on it while you are under warranty it voids it. I bought the extended warranty as well so I have 3 years before I can really tinker with it.
So, you've pretty much stated the market then: the INDIAN in worth MORE than the Hardly Ablesons
I actually did a ton of customization on my scout 60 bobber that I bought brand new for 9k. Theres actually quite alot of aftermarket parts for the scout. Maybe not as much as the sportster but definitely enough to make it your own. And after a stage 1 with a tune it really opens the power up to a point that a sportster will never reach even on the scout 60.
Always click worthy, I enjoy your reviews. I purchased 3 new bikes from American Biker over the last 14 months. Rob is a great guy but their aftercare is seriously lacking and borders shady. My daughters brand spanking new 2020 Scout 60 had a dent in the tank that I discovered at pickup, waited a month for a new "factory" tank. The paint was peeling and it was obvious. They slapped it on anyway.
I ride a 18 chieftain limited and a HDiron1200 with a stage 1 and when I get me chieftain serviced I usually get a scout as a loan bike. The scout has more than my iron1200 with a stage 1 the power commander doesn't do what the bobber/scout classic gives you. I'm a short arse too im not a fan of the forward controls is only downside for me. Low centre of gravity on Indians even the bigger bikes is a constant.
We put floorboards on the the wife scout and a heel toe shifter
@@jamesfenter3861 yeah man I've seen a few guys put floorboards on and love it. I put mini boards on my iron1200 to give me a firmer feeling under my feet and less fatigue on your feet than pegs. Hope you and your wife ride safe man.
I just hope Indian or Harley will come out with a shaft drive bike for us commuters. Nothing beats the reliability of a shaft drive. Once I went to a shaft drive it's hard to consider having to go back to anything that requires adjustment. After cracking my engine case when my chain hopped a tooth (brand new chain, just adjusted) I basically swore off anything else that didn't have a shaft. I want an Indian though. Ahaha.
I love harleys had 2 sporsters one street glide, But I got a Indian bobber now, it as the ugless pipes, So I'm putting on some Lowder shorter VN, slash pipes,
Do you recommend this for long hours of riding/touring?
Comfortable?
Need to change anything?
I like this bike but I don’t know how I feel about the peg clearance and scraping the ground almost every turn
yes it is in every way
I like the look especially the seat looks high quality needs bags and a fairing and bigger fuel tank
Ride it like u stole it 😂😂😂
Revolution max 1250 street bike is likely gonna make the scout dated. 150 hp and 95 ft/lb torque. Interested to see how it plays out
The good thing about this bike is that Indian is looking forward with this model. Let's face it, nothing apart from the name resembles their heritage, and in all honesty while I love my old air cooled, carburetted, old school, dad jeans cruisers. I'd buy this bike new over any other new model from the competition... Because if you're going to buy new, you might as well have NEW.
If you want antiquated clunkers like I do, you buy an AMF era Harley.
I think the Scout hits it out of the park. It's a bloody brilliant bike. I'm in Australia, and I don't believe their sales are great. I don't have any records to confirm that. But I've never seen one on the road. Though you'll see hundreds of Harley's and every other brand in any Sunday in my usual haunts
Being use to my Sporty having some girth taking it off of the kick stand I almost flipped the Scout over it felt so much lighter. The Scout might be my next bike.
My favorite color is the icon dirt track smoke and thunder flat black...which is my bike.
I am new to bikes, what are the differences between the Bobber and the Scout?
which model is it.. its modified model or its company manufacturing wana know please give me information about it
Thank you, have a blessed week my friend.
I like the bike and really like the hat....
it is the 5th gear that is missing on the scout 60 so highway speed 6th gear is still the same is the scout
Single piston brakes?
I have those same Harley gloves, love them!
You guys have not ridden a roadster class sporster then . That bike is truly what a sporty HD is supposed to be . Very light , different fork build at front , mid controls with more lean angle that Indian. Power band upfront at low rpms .Looks like a cafe racer mixed with early sportsters from 50's .
Yes
I have a 2018 Scout. I traded in a Sportster XL883C with 1200 stage one upgrade and nice pipes and intake. I have no regrets buying the Scout. By the way there are more instrument cluster options on the left grip side. Temperature, battery voltage, trip meter and tachometer. A button is located on the clutch lever side (hidden from view)
It was on Christmas holidays from Sydney to Coffs Harbour
i love indians i owned 2 scouts both were 1945 flat heads but your max speed were 100 mph amn vibrated bad so i guess its time to go test ride one of these scouts an il let ya know my own opinion
I own a Roadster (Sportster). I ride with several Scouts. They look really good and sound nice. Their suspension is just as jarring as my Sportster. The Scout's power is off the charts compared to the meager Sportster. More leg room for sure. The Scout drinks more gas and the gas tank size is about the same as my 3.1 King Peanut tank. My fellow riders on Scouts do suffer from one downside. They are always in the shop getting fixed. Scout transmissions are nightmares. Coolant leaks. Engines dying while on the road. WHY? When they run they are damned good - when they don't they are being towed to the shop. All are still under warranty thank goodness for my buddies. They still love their Indians though.
exexpat11 I am actually shocked. Had mine since 2015 and ride with and hang with no less than 5 other scout riders, a mixed bag from 2000 miles to 46,000 miles. Honestly, not sticking up for the scout, there has really been no issues with any of them, 2015 to 2019. Trans trouble? My 2 buddies with sportys always need gas at about the same time? First time I’ve heard of these type of issues?
@@purdyquibb That is good to hear! Maybe it is just a glitch up here.
Personally been checking out scout for quite a while little on the short insane side myself just always afraid when company May fail like Polaris etc
My favorite color is the jade green and black. They offer a matching fairing, LED headlight. Also beautiful saddle bags. The Scout 60 has the same transmission with the 5th gear removed. So, top gears are identical.
Harley for looks and Indian for everything else !
i used to watch gun reviews with a hegshot. Same dude?
Wife ride a scout . Traded her Vulcan 900 for it she has 17 years of riding experience this is her 4th bike and she loves it putting 5000 on it in 10 months in northern ohio
Howdy neighbor. Michigan here. 2018 scout sixty
@@jonathannovak5961 where in Michigan
I'm considering Indian. I was waiting for the Bronx before it was cancelled.
I won't do air-cooled living 30 minutes from Death Valley. That's really nice. I want low end torque so a rocket is out for me. I'm not pretending to be a racer.
Ever ride a v-rod? It's pretty similar on all accounts from what I can tell, just lighter weight with the same torque numbers (had about 74ft lbs of torque at the rear wheel, Scout might have marginally less). To me the v-rod never felt like it lacked torque. You could ride it just like you'd ride a 1200 Sportster and never go over 5000rpms and it felt great. The Scout is all of that, but better because of the lighter weight.
So, it's got all the low end you'll ever need. Far more torquey than a typical sportbike. I know the term "muscle cruiser" gets thrown out a lot but it's kinda generic and non-descriptive other than "it's fast for a cruiser" lol. I consider the v-rod and the Scout to be in the "sport cruiser" territory. They have those heavy feeling, torquey motors but unlike your typical cruiser they just keep on revving higher. It's a very satisfying feeling. I can guarantee you'd be happy with - if nothing else - the power delivery on this or a v-rod.
@@BloodPlusPwn No, never rode a V-Rod, but I like those too.
Keep in mind, POLARIS INDUSTRIES can do the same thing to Indian as they did to Victory. Here today, gone tomorrow.
My performance shop specializes in the Harley Dyna and I have a Sportster to play on 1 day a week. My vote is the Sporty over the Indian every time. 🇺🇸
It's a shame, that a SNOWMOBILE company (that's not going anywhere), CAN build a much BETTER motorcycle than the "motor company"
I sure hope those bugs are tasty Bro’!!
no comparison. scout is way better than a sportster. my wife upgraded last year from a sportster to a scout & she's never looked back. we searched all around to find a bike for her to upgrade to. she's only 5'2" wasn't comfortable on any other bike until she tried the scout. it fit her perfect & will for many years to come...........
3 things that make me question owning an Indian 1 dealership availability for services, they are few and far between. 2 Polaris owns them and after what happened to Victory when they tried to challenge Harley, it wasn't good. They are shuttered and only making parts for the next 2 years then nothing and the resale values tanked on them, you can get a full touring cruiser for 10-14k now. 3. that thing sounds terrible, that winding sound, IDK if it is the mic picking it up but wow that is grating on the ears.
Icon Dirt Track Smoke/Thunder Black
I am really stuck between an Indian Scout or a HS Sport Glide. Sitting on the Scout it feels like such a lighter bike. The fit and finish on the Sport Glide is amazing though.
danintexas I’m a bit on the same boat! Test road the Sport Glide a couple of weeks ago and loved it! Next morning will test ride the Scout. The SG is and feels indeed heavier but it’s not bad, the Scout the first impression I had when sat on it was that it felt as light as my Vulcan S.
Anyways, I’ll see how the test ride goes and how the Scout makes me feel. It’s a shame the tank is small at 12.5L, the SG is pretty much 19L and then comes with cruise control, bags and so on. It’s 4k more expensive, though.
You’re riding my favorite colored one
I like the taaller 6th gear on the Scout 69 but lm not sure an extra gear and 133cc more is worth paying a $2500 difference. The Scout 60 looks better to me
I have a 2019 Scout in Metallic Jade. It is not uncommon for me to go for a ride after work and be gone for 1-2 hrs. It's just plain fun to ride and for me the most comfortable bike I have ever been on. More than enough power to do whatever you want. I personally ride single, but this bike can easily run 2 up.