Indian Scout Vs Chief! There is A Clear Winner!
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- The Indian Scout and the Indian Chief both have some awesome features but today I'll put them up against each other and tell you which one I like the best and why.
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I've got a 2021 Indian Scout (with ABS). I got a Corbin saddle and pillion seat, Dean Speed sissy bar, and progressive 444 shocks. My wife loves the ride AND i've taken a buddy of mine (another 220 lb dude like me) on a 45 mile trip and there was no problem riding 2-up. The Scout has plenty of power to handle 2 up riding and keeping up with (or passing) California traffic.
Owned both, sold the Bobber and went with a Dark Horse. Both are great bikes, but they have totally different focal points. The chief is a much better cruiser all day long, but the scout is a faster bike.
What should I do if I love the scout bobber style but I would be a 6’2 rider. Like I feel like it would be too small but I don’t want to accept anything other than the bobber
@@tannerpalmer9253 try one that has forward controls n ape hangers already
I just figure i had a 1600 kawasaki and it was great for going 85 all dat long but then when im just puttering around the grocery store or moving it in the garage it really sucked to muscle around so i think theor 1200 indian is a good middle. I started on a 150cc in the msf course and my first owned bime was in 2016 it was a 1983 honda 650 and it had enoigh peoer for my area but it wasnt as nice to hold 70mph long term. I also had expirience on a honda grom and a 2000cc kawasaki that was the bigger version of the 1600 i owned. It was even better on the interstate but so terribly heavy at slow speeds. So to me the 1200 is an interesting niche because itll be enough you defiently can go across the country but not too big where i csn still move it arpund the parking spots a lot easier. But the wuality hasnt seemed to drop and i notice the smaller the engine tends to be a lower quality bike so you pay a lot but you get some real quality esspecially if you can snag a good enough deal used. Youre right i bet its faster just because its a scout its not built to go cross coumtry from the factory. I kean it is but yu might want a saddlebag and luggage rack, heated grips a winsheild, highway bars for more spots to stretch your legs, indian charges a lot so beforr you knoenit the 12k bike costs 17k before sales tax and everything else it starts to be way too much you coulda bought a softtail standard with nothing on it. The issue is im on a budget and in usa we need big enough bikes its nice if i can sell it to a guy who knows he can easily ride it all the way home at 85mph like as if the bike was born for it. A klr 650 at 85 youre like "i should be going 60 maybe 65" klr more capable offroad and cheaper. If i hage to drive 3 hours on an interstate to get to a particular type of specialist in healtjcare or elsewhere for example, its nice if i have 1 bike that can do as much ad possible. Turns out this isnt easy becsuse different tasls have requirements that are at far extremes to others so a indian scout isnt going to do better than a tw200 in a sandy wash. So i think about saving up for multiple.bikes but its less smart because i need a location to keep them and i pay more for two bikes both depriciating. Doing the math is important to me. You have 2 or 3 bikes an you need a plot of land that to put your toolbox shed and extra tires oil etc, suddenly maybe you break your finger and gave to go to the hospital for an emergency surgury. They gotta collect like 10 experts on fixing fingers and now you got all thes ebikes you need quick money so theyre trying to screw you for less and less when you sell. They ask your final offer you say 6 and they say butnhoe about 5 and yoy were like bro all the others are worth 8! I hate knowing im walking into the bad end of what is allegedly a "negotiation" the mona lisa is worth way more now than it was back before the light bulb was invented man. We should be thinking careully with diligence. I like hindas rebel 500 in terms of consumer value but i cant bring myself to buy it new eventhough i can afford it because ill buy it and put 500 miles on it and itll sit in the garage and a year later they will only pay me 4500 max. Its losing thousands in a year. Thats rediculous. That is poverty hidden in the cracks and crevices. The money just leaks away overtime suddenly its gone. There is things I can buy that dont do that 😂 problem is rarely does trnasportation make you money and not lose it unless its for business purposes if youre competitive about it
Get a Chief Bobber
Put money on the Chief then swapped to the Scout Rogue. Good choice in my mind. 5000kms on Ozzie roads. Very happy.
You mentioned the scout for short distance. I'm a smaller woman with the scout & road from N to FL & back with no problems. I did put reduced reach handlebars on right away & that made a huge difference. 😀
Too much ‘this bike / that bike’ in that we lose which one you’re talking about. Good analysis.
Love those Indian motorcycles!
They just keep getting better and better 👍
I own a 21 scout sixty and absolutely love it. It handles very well and has plenty enough get up and go for me. Every time I have to take it to the dealership one of the techs there has to tell me they fired a guy a few years ago for wrecking a customers bike. He said ole dude didn’t ride much and assumed the smaller bike wouldn’t get away from him but he didn’t make it out of eye sight from their shop before it got the best of him
Thank you for the video, I was interested in both but the RV hitch hauler ramp for motorcycles only offers 600 lbs or 272 kg weight limit. So this helped me out.
Great comparison video! Both are beautiful!
To be honest, I haven’t ridden either. At 6’3” and 230, I’m not a fan of the “Monkey humpin a football” feel. That said, I started on a 1200 Sportster to get used to riding on the road, but quickly upgraded to a Road King. But, I was very impressed by the new Sport Chief so I had to throw a leg over when my dealership got their first one. It didn’t feel as small as I thought it might. The next time I show up Demo Days, the Sport Chief will be my first choice.
I just bought a sport chief and put extended floorboards on it. Absolute game changer of an experience.
@@myleshopkins2529 Good info!!
The scout wasn't really designed for your height or weight as you are pushing the limits. The chief is a far better bike for your size.
Love my Scout! So perky, and a great fun ride. Comfy. I did put a LED light, and a 2-into-1 exhaust on it, and some other mods. And it’s affordable.
The hard call for me would be between the Scout and the FTR.
I’d take a Scout over an FTR. Just because it’s my style of riding and of the bike. I think the two are too different to be comparable.
That’s my dilemma right now. At first I was settled on the scout bobber twenty, then I saw the 2023 ftr rally and now I’m stuck
I had both for a while, '15 Scout and a '22 Chief. Sold the Scout and wish I hadn't. They definitely different. I loved that the Scout would pull HARD past 9000 rpm once you had it above 4000. I don't know if they changed the Scout since the mine but the suspension and Kenda tires sucked. I didn't mess with the rear but did get Traxxion front fork carts and R2 the tires with Commander 2's. Love the Chief but I really miss the Scout for back and forth to work.
Good review, have you ever done a review on the Harley-Davidson Heritage vs Indian Springfield Base?
Many similarities and yet many differences at the same time.
The Chief will appeal more to Harley riders - has that same shove in the butt very low down.
But the Scout is the faster & more sporty-handling machine and is 100lbs (thats like a teenage pillion) lighter.
So the Scout will appeal more to ex-sportsbike or even Adv bike riders.
I bought my Scout new in 2017 and 6 summers later I still haven't found anything worth trading up to.
I'm 6'2, 233lbs and the standard Scout suits me fine for 200-mile days. Beyond that I'd take my BMW RT.
I bought the Scout to slow me down, but the chassis is so good and the bike handles so well even on the standard Kenda tyres (in the dry, anyway...) I have never fitted alternatives and enjoy chasing sportsbikes.
But I live in the UK Our roads are tight & twisty and and the tarmac rough & full of potholes.
I rode the Scout Bobber when it launched and dismissed it because its only a bit better than my old hard-tail chop was.
Very cool, though...
I live the TS engines, but I think theyre better suited to bigger bikes: the LC Scout engine is efficent and packs a real punch.
All that said, I wouldb't recommend the Scout as 2-up tourer unless youre both... comoact riders.
I ride solo and I intend to keep mine until Indian launch a Scout with the Challenger engine 😎
Going from 69 to a 108 cubic in engine in a scout would be fun.
I have a 23 rogue and came from liter sportbikes. Super impressed with the power to weight ratio and much more comfortable riding position. The chief is appealing to me with more torque at lower speeds but I have not rode one to really feel the difference.
Interesting Cam mount you have on your lid
Not sure which bike the black one was, the chief? But its eye candy...beautiful....like the overall style of it a bit more...interested in getting my first cruiser coming from a cbr600rr, im 6 foot 1 and 225....wonder if it would be a good fit for me...
Good video👍. Both are great bikes in their design and application. Don't need to change to a liquid cool on the Chief, get a Super Chief Limited if you want more go. My Super Chief Limited with stage 2 and Lloydz tune rips around town and mountain twisties effortlessly. Need to pass on the highway, just a little flick on the throttle and you're there. Neither are great for passengers. Even with the backrest, passenger feels cramped after an hour on my SCL. Maybe adjustable passenger pegs or floorboards would make it more passenger friendly, but as of today it's nowhere to be found for the SCL.
I love the old original Indian v twins. So beautiful . I'm very interested in the engines and any weak points. Isn't there a pinion with plastic teeth? It don't remember but the guy on you tube who works on them stripped an engine down and mentioned it. They are expensive and I do like those FTR1200 too but the big torque engine is lovely on the thunderstroke but I ask you American bikers who know American machines so well. I love the Triumph Thunderbird 1700 LT. It's a superb parallel twin that's not well known but seems to be one of the nicest cruisers ever made that's modern and some Victory machines seem very durable and well built.
@@Ian-bq7gp The Indian Thunderstroke engine is ultra reliable whereas the chances of having a breakdown in the first 4 years for these bikes are Ducati 33%, Triumph 29% , Harley Davidson 26%, Victory 17%. The Japanese bikes are all between 11% and 15%. So there's a chance the Triumph will run into some costly repair bills soon after buying it.
Looks like you are comparing the Scout to the Chief 111, I'm curious if the 116 would fare any differently in terms of performance. I'm 6'3 and went with the Chief Dark Horse with the 5-inch risers handle bars with forward controls. Much more comfortable.
I just got a Sport Chief 116, and was able to keep up with my buddy that has a 128 Road Glide (stage 3). Damn thing is fast! It actually seems faster than my 18 Scout Bobber stage 1.
The scouts are the 2nd fastest bike Indian offers…..
What is the fastest? The challenger’s engine?
Would a comparison between a Scout Rogue and a Sport Chief make sense??
Thank you 👍
I love my Scout Bobber. It's truly beautiful to ride and very mean.
interesting you say the scout doesn't come up to speed as fast as the chief, the scout has a red line of 8K, they really like the higher RPM range. I think that the scout comes up to speed a little faster. just me though.
You’re gonna have to revisit this video with the introduction of the 101 Scout.
Both are beautiful but I prefer the scout bobber twenty somehow
I kind of look at it in terms of which is a better American crusier. The Scout is a better small-ish crusier than anything Harley-Davidson has. It's way better than the old Sportsters, the new Nightster is similar enough to the Scout preformance wise but the Scout has much better asthetics especially the Rogue which I own.
But if I wanted a bigger sort of club-style bike, I'd probably pick the Low Rider ST or even just the S over the Sport Chief. The Sport Chief is good, but the Harley-Davidson is a better buy because it's got a bit better performance with the 117 M8 and the fairing and bags on the ST are nice. But I will say the Ride Command stuff in the Chief is really nice and it's too bad Harley hasn't thought to Integrate something like that on the LRS/ST.
Basically I think the Scout dominates it's class for a small-ish neo-retro crusier and the Chief, while far from a terrible bike, doesn't.
Thank you.
By chance do you still have the 883 and is it for sale of so how much
I do t man it’s been gone for along time now
I did the Indian demo rides last weekend. I did not like the Chief or Sport Chief. The Super Chief was better. I currently ride a Scout Bobber with a Saddlemen Seat, and bars are on the way, i have the Pathfinder headlight installed, and sissybar also on the way. When i rode the Sport Chief, I had it in my head it's going to be way better than my Scout. But it's harder to lean then the Challenge somehow. I love the way the Sport Chief looks, but it didn't feel natural. Now with more forward controls and the bars tilted back, (I'm 5'8) it would be more comfortable at least. But i think the Scout is a better rider.
I also just rode from Dayton, Ohio to Point Pleasant, WV and back. With the Saddlemen seat my butt didn't hurt until the 5th hour. The stock seat on the bobber sucks.
The Indian Scout is a Sportster merged with a VROD, exactly what Harley SHOULD HAVE DONE WITH THE SPORTSTER. But they aren't going to, so Scout it is.
How tall are you?
Performance aside the scout is a nicer bike especially if it's the Rogue.
I’ve owned both too. Nothing beats the Chief.
I have a 2005 Honda VTX 1800 c3 that I'm never going to sell.
Love the Indians. Fit and finish seems great. Don't feel like I'm paying extra to buy into the "Look at me, I drank the Kool-Aid" club.
I've had a scout an now got the. Super chief I found the scout bottom out on corners especially round abouts that's not happend on my chief the reason for selling the scout I have partner and she found the back end uncomfortable so went for the super chief of which she found better all In all both are great bikes just need to sort out after market stuff to make my life happyier
BIKE=MANUAL;&CYCLE=MOTORIZED.
I like the looks of the FTR, but none of the rest of the Scout lineup is very appealing to look at.
We must not forget where the Scout's origins are... the Scout was originally not an Indian at all; but rather a bike from Indians former sister-company, Victory. The Scout is/was actually a Victory Octane, which Victory released as a tire-scorching muscle bike as a last hoorah before the company was closed.
I already forgot
Exactly what speed does the chief get up to faster? The scout is the faster, sportier bike. Much better power to weight. You might have been in the wrong gear or something.
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Im 6 feet 2 inches 200 pounds the scout is too small for me. My favorite is the Super Chief Limited
What are you doing with them? Chief is a BIG bike, better suited for a long cruise. Scout is a better bike for sporty riding around town.
But you both being bigger guys, you have missed the main sales point of the scout. It's aimed at women and smaller shorter riders, Indian says 5'2" in height but height means nothing its your inseam thats important. I'd put the scout at a 27 or 28 in inseam, maybe a little less. The chief is more of a 29in or 30in min inseam bike. So the scout also is for for a lighter rider 170 lbsor so on high end. Thus excelleration is fine at low rev's. I own both a scout and a chieftain classic, and at 5'6" but short legs 29" inseam the chieftain is realy at the point i am just barly flat footed. An inch more leg would be great, even a extra 0.5" might do.
Schwinn=Bikes;&Ndian/H.D.,= Cycles.
Well you forgot to mention that “the Slouch” is water cooled
The Scout is still a beginner bike or a girls machine
clown
Leave the circus.
Grow up
Have you been on one?
Lmao, 2nd gear, I'm doing 80 mph, not a beginners bike.