New World Disorder | Erix X. Li | Oxford Union
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- A 'new world disorder' is happening according to Eric X. Li.
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2:00 - 1) How did your views change from favouring liberal democracy to Chinese Meritocracy?
5:30 - 2) With the absense of a free press and democratic vote what is the mechanism that informs the Chinese political party that their policies is wrong?
13:00 3) If the political party in China is so good and confident then why not allow a free press, the right to protest or elections?
16:25 - 4) Like South Korea and Taiwan do you think that as China's income gets higher they will turn democratic?
18:02 - 5) How long do you think the system (democracy) is going to last?
19:03 - 6) Do you think that the Chinese political system is an alternative to western liberal democracy?
20:12 - 7) Why do you see the coming of a new world disorder in error or warring states?
25:10 - 8) There is a Chinese belief that China is the centre of the universe, this contradicts with your theory that China is not an expansionary power, what do you make of this?
27:27 - 9) You've predicted the 'new world disorder', do you think that this is a desirable outcome where countries like America can't afford to save countries going through a humanitarian crisis?
Filmed on Friday 1st November 2013
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ABOUT ERIC X LI:
Eric X. Li is a venture capitalist in Shanghai. He serves on the board of directors of China Europe International Business School (CEIBS) and is vice chairman of its publishing arm CEIBS Publishing Group. Mr. Li is a Henry Crown Fellow of the Aspen Institute.
ABOUT THE INTERVIEWER:
Seungyoon Lee is a former President of the Oxford Union and Oxford University Asia-Pacific Society.
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I am a boomer from Taiwan. Got my MS and PhD 30 yrs ago from the US and teach at a research university since then. I feel and know exactly what Mr. Li said. We Chinese have a promising future for sure.
Are you happy to be taken over by Beijing-based CCP?
You are clueless. Chinese have no future if China dominate the global trade. Mr.Li is a conman selling snake oil.
@@zenlei8258 These wumaos are not clueless, they are lying through their teeth regarding their degree.
@@biglemoncoke oh look, the bots are here
@@andr3w131 ya human slave labour works on a Sunday.
Hell.. This guy is brilliant. Why did it take me 7 years to discover him.
I can't agree more!
I have a horrible feeling that few of those present, the mediator included - I hope he wasn't picked because he was already the brightest - actually had the intellect to grasp and willingness to admit the facts he's laying bare in front of them. Little has changed between what he was saying then and what he's still saying now, yet those "elites" who are supposedly running or going to be running countries still refuse to see he's damn right all along.
I have exact the same feeling, and I just discovered him today! He is brilliant and says what I have in my mind. I wish that I could master English as well as he does and tell people that the rise of China is good for the world and the CPC does a good job although there are still lots of problem.
Eric Li's prediction of the world is exactly what happened today in US, UK, Europe an middle east.
That’s because these things were planned to work out that way (with their plans operating from plan A,B,C etc. Most ppl Believe that this world works via a natural course of things. Once people start to see who owns what & puts money where, you’ll see who’s behind much of everything that drives the course of this entire world. (Who are they? The Queen, Rothschilds , Rockefeller’s & Bilderburgers, And NOW GATES.)
Just go back into history & look at all the “MISTAKES” that were made then compare them with all the near same problems we still make. I found out that these playbooks are not in our best interest (who gave “us” that playbook?) you’ll find out that we’re ALL being controlled by these hidden hands that steer societies the way they want & for their Benefit-especially the financials.
AND these hidden hands NOW have nearly ALL their players (people) in - they’re in all governments & wherever needed to drive their agendas.
And That’s what I found out!! Start asking questions like “how does a Gov’t control millions or billions of people?”
@@KC-kh8df abandon your conspiracies and learn from a science and academic field that explains all this. It's called marxism. Who owns the world? The bourgeoisie do now and at the very top is the bourgeoisie of the US empire.
Absolutely spot on!!!!
This guy is amazing. One hell of a great mind. The rare few who genuinely have a different opinion.
abc we all have different opinion, west just don’t listen.
@@Isweir No point in listening to the same old CCP politbureau standing committee United Front propaganda rubbish. Think for yourself. You don't need Winkie the Pooh and the CCP.
..complacency i wager
Many think as him in China, but you will never know in your 'free' world.
Actually, authoritarianism is a very old idea. Eric just wraps it in a pretty new bow.
Looking at this video 4 years later I can feel nothing but admiration to this guy. 4 years ago people denied and mocked at him. Now I think time has proven he's so goddamn right.
he is laughing stock now.
待化的冰 chinazi regime is going down in 2020
@待化的冰 am I pathetic or is Erix pathetic? have you heard of Roman Empire talking great about themselves? Or Americans?
Nasty Ameri no I live in the states like Winnie the Pooh’s daughter
@@biglemoncoke Your news is SO outdated you probably don't know there was a riot going on in HK.
Speech is action, History proved that with Hitler. This Eric guy is simply brilliant
AbdulKerim 👍
Trump proves it in 2016. And Trump supporters proved it again in 2020.
Yes, true
There's better examples than using Hilter, you bozo.
His candid talk ages so well! Thank you Eric!
Really? Have you been living under a rock in the past couple months?
Terence Chung you been keeping urself busy that’s for sure lol
@@kordaezhou8599 his thesis is wrong.
Terence Chung agree to disagree this is safe space to comment about your opinion what I’m suggesting is that you don’t need to bash everyone who holds a different opinion. I don’t agree entirely with him too. Just comment under the video to express that will ya?
I am not bashing anyone. I have been bashing Eric X Li for the last 7 years. My stance never changed.
So many people are trapped in the framework that "democracy" is the final step, that everybody is working hard towards this goal. People always forget that the medicine that works for you may not work for me.
It's propaganda to make democracy the holy grail. That once the voice of the mass is heard, utopia is reached.
I Feel like this man speaks the truth.
I like his comparison of the "princeling class," that runs some countries and not others, ARNAB DAS. Simple, but telling.
@Shiro Ishii shiro-san, are you trying to say that China is trying to deceive the world?
He is much closer to the truth than some politics in the west, or sometimes he is exactly in the truth
delete 'i feel like'
Eric Li's prediction of the said most powerful country can't provide help to others during humanitarian crisis (2020 Epidemic) . Conclusion , liberal democracy in the west is in big big trouble , Li's prediction is the most accurate i have seen so far !
Really? Totalitarian China is in great success midst the coronvirus?
Terence Chung apparently, just look at economy recovery stats and COVID control performance of China today.
@Shiro Ishii if you seriously believe in this conspiracy, then China is more unstoppable beyond US, silently slowing down the world and throw others further behind. Fact is entire east Asia culture handled the pandemic better than the west. It’s a win for the Asian culture.
@@biglemoncoke what do you think now? At least you know you are not as smart as Eric.
@@ybi2610 I think Eric is dumb and a puppet of CCP
Just watched this. Wow Eric Li is a fountain of knowledge, very humble and inspirational. I wish I had him as one of my teachers, I definitely would have paid full attention. So insightful, so knowledgeable and he speaks the truth, his wise words are so true!
you can always goto Chinese gulags, 1.4 billion collective mind of the people think the same as this guy.
Re-watching this again in 2018. Eric's words bite even harder.
Is it the hard truth in 2020? This Eric guy is for sure CCP cadres bastard or something.
@@biglemoncoke Let's say he was indeed a CCP, but what does that have anything to do with his predictions, are these predictions and explanations right or not? It turns out that he is not a CCP yet, but you are already a bastard for sure.
@@haijunpeng3848 If he is CCP, it means policy driven collective mindset says he have to talk about destroying freedom and democracy for their party survival. Bastards of CCP high level party member tends to work very hard to achieve what real sons and daughters of elite cadres can't. Good for him. How do you know he is not CCP yet? are you sleeping with the guy?
@@biglemoncoke How stupid you are, he is a venture capitalist owed lots of properties in China, his information is totally open to the public. He did admit that he wanted to join the CCP but got turned down. Do some research before bullshitting about things you didn't know.
Haijun Peng google translate? CCP 5 cent army. Learn grammar before posting on TH-cam and embarrassing the collective mind of the Chinese people. Why are you so mad, are you CCP low level members bastard?
Eric Li's talk and prediction is a miracle. Watching this at the beginning of 2018.
Still valid now, Dec 2019
2021, he is brilliant.
1,500 years ago, China invented national wide test system to select government officer which made China the only one country eliminate of nobility class in ancient time. China seem had a emperor but under the emperor everyone are equal even most of the prime ministers come from poor family. that means as long as you are smart and work hard you can change you life no matter who is your parientes. in other countries the only chance to change a social class is serve a king in the battlefield to become a knight join the nobility class or be a Cinderella marry a prince these are basic fairy tale.
Actually the name China doesnt mean the centre of the universe, the interviewer is ill informed. China meant in ancient times, central government. It was called like that because China existed out of different tribes and kingdoms and was united into one, all answered to a central government a central empire. They didn't consider all countries barbarians, they just went and defended their borders and never had expansionist ambitions. The countries they did influence China have left them their autonomy, like Korea and Vietnam, but they did had to pay tribute, doesn't mean they occupied it. Dont forget that the last Dynasty of China were foreign invaders from Manchuria and occupied China for 300 years, so the threat was real.
GenericOpinion a better translation would be Middle Earth, like the flat region in the Lord of the Rings
Please notice that the term MIDDLE is not only used in describing China as a territory or land but also in a host of things like the people, way of life, principle etc. The use of the term is more intended to distinguish a wise, treasured philosophy of dealing with life. It tells a nation that practices the Confucian Doctrine of the Mean (中庸), or the Buddhist Middle Path(中道）which makes China so adaptable and not dogmatic. The wisdom of China.
@@thomasanderson9539 China or Zhongguo does not translate into Middle Earth. Zhongguo roughly translates into middle kingdom. Guo means nation or country amd Zhong means middle or centre, so nowhere as broad as to say it is Earth.
@@BingDwenDwen agreed
Eric Li is amazing. This talk given in 2013 is so prescient. We have indeed entered a Warring States phase of world history. And the faults and failures of liberal democracy are now starkly evident.
Yes it is terrible when people are free to think different from the CCP elite authoritarian capitalists. Throw them all in jail for being "unpatriotic".
@@anEyePhil Projection of western supremacist group think characteristics.
@@ensteffo Projection of CCP brainwashed person. It is good to have a government that is there because YOU put them there, not some Elitist bloodline CCP princelings. One day the Chinese People will free themselves from Maoist Leninist Xi Jinping - thought garbage.
As a Chinese living in democratic North America for three decades, I agree with his views about political systems in China and in the world. Chinese current one-party system is nothing superior, but it is optional for China. China is a very different civilization from the western countries, as unique and complex as its language. China needs big government. The Chinese people depend on their governments to lead and govern. The governing CCP has been quite vigilant in self observation and self correction, and it gets things done very efficiently meanwhile effectively serving their long-term vision. It is the best driving force supported by its people. As for the westerners, if you feel troubled embracing it, at least let it be. You are not really in a position to judge it. With regard to freedom of speech, it has been a complicated subject for me. I do enjoy the freedom of speech myself, but I also understand that its limitation is necessary for China. The Chinese takes words (or speech) way too seriously so it can be very harmful. American news media like CNN or talk show hosts may all share such experiences: don't make jokes about the Chinese or they all come out the next day to protest. A rap song that entertains us could make so many Chinese angry. The words just weight so much more to them. Yea, I say them because I don't share the same feeling, but I do understand. The total freedom of speech may be harmful to the social stability of China and social stability is essential to the sustainable growth of Chinese economy. All I suggest Is to keep an open mind about China, nothing scary really even though unfamiliar.
communism came from the west, and taiwan runs democracy better than some western countries
@@vain3940 sth smell here, do u eat shit by ur mouth which makes ur comment nasty?
@Davin S demon is a demon. ppl from the middle east will tell u who is the demon to humanity.
@@hobog lol yeah totally agree. 40yrs ago tw had GDP that was 40% of CN's, now since electoral democrazy in 2003, their GDP is 4% of CN's. a very successful "democrazy" system in tw. by the way, how can a person lies about her doctoral essay be the leader of tw? tw ppl prefer lairs?
@@wongstella6503 lol oops that 🔥...Western critics are clueless disrespectful bumpkins.
I've watched it again in 2017. It's all come true. :)
me too. Everything happens. Now trump stand out. people should wake up and open their eyes to look at how china do.
Kenneth Ma I don’t quite agree on his example, that the Chinese system is much more self-critical and changing. The decision to reduce the people of the committee from 10 to 7 is a change complying with the ideology behind it (less and competent people in power leads to faster changes) whereas western governments want a bigger plurality to represent more people. Therefore this change might be desirable and seen positiv from a eastern view but not from a western. How can he then say that is a prove of weakness of the government? Is this a coherent argument?
Dr. MJK where are all the wumaos now? Are all their TH-cam accounts banned in violation due to Chinese propaganda disinformation campaign?
More true in 2021
More so now right?
Eric Li is a wise man. I especially liked his final point about allowing a system to emerge rather than trying to force it to fit a design. That sounds like a Taoist approach to politics, and a very Chinese way of doing things. I wish them good luck with that; the world definitely needs alternatives to our current Western models.
Many of his predictions are facts now regarding the situations in US, UK and Europe.
Tao Su I think a lot of them is fact back then, and he just stated them out a few years ago. People struggling with pay cheques and mortgages are incapable of penetrating the ‘mist’ (e.g. media propaganda is one) deliberately created to ‘govern’ them. Eric has the blessings of a good career but also importantly his “hobby” is political system, so it is great we can watch this. Back to the “situations”, The flaws will only expose themselves more when things like this pandemic to trigger. A great irony that we can still see trolling arrogant comments here.
Eric , have not any talk from you for such a long time . You need to talk for China , you are the best Eric Li
Eric is brilliant and eye opening, realism is truth
Eric LI has great analytical outlook on China and rest of the world.
Watch this video in mid of 2021, when the most world is still suffering the pandemic.
This proves Eric Li's talk and prediction are so right. The westerners advocating critical thinking, really need think critically, without bias.
Really? Is China suffering from Pandemic? Or no electrcity?
Watch this video in April 2020, his predictions are proved now ......
America should be warned not to seek war with china, it might be a regrettable affair.
Please, do not underestimate the resilience of the Chinese people, you will pay a heavy price.
Militarily, the US is superior. Economically, China has US by the balls.
Both S Korea’s and Taiwan’s period of fastest growth are in periods where they are authoritarian. Democracy came later and their growth slipped. Anyway the periods of fastest growth are periods where the help of external powers help in this growth. When the economic level of these economies rises to a threatening level, you find external help turning to impedance, which happened to Japan with the Plaza Accord and S Korea is also feeling this today in 2020. Taiwan is a poor image of its past four tigers or little dragons self decades ago when compared to its fellow tigers and dragons.
Germany's era of full employment and rapid growth was also under one party rule lead by an authoritarian dictator. Not Xi Jinping, it was Adolf Hitler. Same thing really.
Taiwan never grow as in the last 20 years
The Oxford Union is so shrewd to exclude Singapore, the only country and obvious example outside China which did not turn to full democracy even after achieving social wealth and economic prosperity and this is certainly is a great example to support China. Hong Kong and Taiwan are not countries but cities of China. So yes, democracy does not bring growth.
@@ona2779 Singapure is a pure capitalistic state (is USA in steroids), with politic authocracy. They never went under marxism philosophy, and over the years the people became more liberal, with some freedoms being granted. Their formal language is English and that shows the pragmatic thought of their leaders. They can vote for their president, but not all can run for the office, you must be authorized by a comission. China isnt the same model, China is an authocratic regime, with no elections... Is a huge diference between those contries.
I take my hat off to Eric
Jackie Chen?
Something for the non-Chinese viewers: waring states actually happened in Chinese history thousands of years ago. At the time the central government of china failed to control the small states all around china which caused hundreds of years of chaos and war. Everyone tries to find a way to win the war against others and unify China. But, it is the very first time that china faces this situation, which means nobody knows what to do. This chaotic time ended up with creation of several different philosophies and huge progress in war and art of governance. In this period, we get Confucius and many other great men trying to come up with a way to solve the same problem we faced today: how to make us live in a better place.
Many sayings of Spring and Autumn philosophers, which had previously been circulated orally, were put into writing in the Warring States. These include the Analects and The Art of War.
"The entire country of South Korea, we were just there, was run by princelings (snicker). From politicians to CEO's to University Presidents were all sons of University Presidents (belly laugh)." I have never seen a smug expression wiped off someones face as fast as Eric Li did to Seungyoon Lee.
I would love to see him come to America and expose the nasty nepotism that rules our government, industry, universities and media as well. We just don't call them princelings tho heh.
Tyrion Lannister How about now？
trump comes. his speaking start be true.
see this video in 2017, his words is coming to manifest.
1,500 years ago, China invited national wide test system to select government officer which made China the only one country eliminate of nobility class in ancient time. China seem had a emperor but under the emperor everyone are equal even most of the prime ministers come from poor family. that means as long as you are smart and work hard you can change you life no matter who is your parientes. in other countries the only chance to change a social class is serve a king in the battlefield to become a knight join the nobility class or be a Cinderella marry a prince these are basic fairy tale.
Yes. China princelings, and having a President for Life (Winnie) is much better than South Korea.
Looking at the video from 2020, I want to get his man help me predict the lottery number opened next week
Except China all the civilization end up as theocracy(2000 years ago China is also just another Roma in the east). All the civilization started as some kind of democracy(at least between nobility). But after the economic failure , populism will bring a
dictator to the stage, while he also has no magic to solve the real problems. so he either advocate Nazism to provoke both inside and outside war to provide some trophy to lower society class without touching the interest of elite class. Or try to
use religion lure low class let them forget the real problem. liberalism is the new religion in the west today. Biden's Liberalism and Trump's Nazilism is just the two sides of the same coin.
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Eric X Li is an amazing speaker and political theorist. I'm convinced.
You are an idiot, you have no brain and he makes a fortune with the Chinese regime.
lol 3 years later and some people here continue to mindlessly deny. Then you can continue to be wilfully ignorant and therefore "confused" by Brexit, Trump, geopolitical changes in Europe/SEA/Africa/Middle East. Definitely nobody knows what's happening!!
Today is 26.6.2020. He seems to be right.
Appears that we have two men speaking, one knows what he's talking about and one does not
the one who does not was only repeating words and theories produced by the imperial countries ( yes, I meant the UK & US).
What a wise man
this is very logit and the truth of reality debate , good work Erix X , good for humanity
Eric Li is a sheer Genius!
Still brilliant in 2020!!!👍💪💪💪💝💝💝💝
Much love and respect! Great interview!
Brilliant analysis, sage and intellectual forward looking.
I'm watching this video in April of 2022 and all I can say is Eric X. Li's prediction of a New World Disorder was prophetic in 2013.
Eric was visionary about America's disastrous performance in 2020 pandemic.
This man is fantastic!
How Eric Li understood the fundamental issues of the world and made so accurate prediction
Freedom of speech. So why is Trump no longer on Twitter?
He just recently set up his own social media company you dummy 😂
Li missed one point on "free" speech: In the US, speech costs money. It's not "free." And of course standards change as to what is permitted by law. There are no totally public airwaves, all are subsidized by corporate dollars, corporate-funded foundations and ads. The corporate media, both local and national, no longer is obligated to present contrary views on specific issues. You pay big money for a political ad or you are not heard. Debates are controlled by corporate media and are framed around elite concerns. The Congress and Senate don't even present bills that only address a specific issue and that is a tactic to slip in "poison pills" to defeat bills that address human needs or to slip in unpopular gifts to elites into popular bills. In the CP and other socialist/communist countries, debate is civilized and localized, specific issues are addressed by local people and representation comes from actually one person, one vote and is carried up the ranks, from addressing a problem to rectifying it. The West keeps equating capitalism to democracy. Capitalism stifles and corrupts democracy, usually sooner than later. Seeing those stark contrasts between capitalist and socialist/communist political structures shook my beliefs, built on a lifetime of US propaganda.
Well said Eric!
Watching this video 6 years later especially after COVID19 and Trump administration, a lot of Eric’s predictions are already facts now!
This guy is brilliant. Watching it today and everything he said come true now.
Comments won’t make a video famous
Such an humble and intelligent man!
You know, when I was working with Chinese people, i pretended to love china.
@@biglemoncoke And you pretend to be Chinese. Go and look at all your comments and what it amounts to -- zero contribution.
10:05, moderator felt the burn.
Yes. Princelings are in South Korea, too. Good point.
He essentially told him to his smug face, you’re only here now because of your daddy and not because you’re special!!! It was beautiful
It doesn't matter what political system is in place. It doesn't matter if it's democracy, a republic, a parliament, a one-party state, a monarchy. If the state doesn't temper the worst excesses of capital, the state will ultimately fail. China understands that today, just like FDR did almost a century ago.
The comments here are more harmonious than i expected. I watched this in translated version in China few years ago😄
Every country should have its OWN system. A East African country deserves its own system, a Middle Eastern Sunni-majority country deserves its own system, a SE Asian country should have its own unique system. We need to break down the hubris that democracy is automatically better.
14:30 FORMER PM OF SINGAPORE MR LEE KUAN YEW ONCE SAID THAT…FREEDOM COMES WITH RESPONSIBILITY…AND THAT INCLUDES FREEDOM OF SPEECH TOO! YOU HAVE THE FREEDOM TO VOICE OUT BUT MAKE SURE YOU CAN BACK UP YOUR CLAIMS WITH FACTS AND SENSIBLE LOGIC!
VeronicaChia IN WHICH THEY CANT, HENCE DEFAMATION.
WOW Eric is so intelligent!
Eric is a dumbass, his youtube army should get banned
@@biglemoncoke You Taiwanese always make trouble don't you?
I’m watching this in 2020. There is no better word than “new world disorder” to describe the mess most countries are facing now because of coronavirus.
Isn't China a mess too?
Terence Chung Only in one district, Hong Kong , but at least things are getting better there.
@@michann5586 hope Western alliance will deport all Overseas mainland Chinese students loyal to the CCP.
Terence Chung so you can get in? That’s shabby
Mi Yuan I already live in Canada, mainland Chinese here are despicable! They don’t value the rule of law. CCP loyalists should be deported immediately .
So true that speech is an action!
Erix schooled that english accent asian interviewer lol.
If they were in China Bush, Obama and Trump wouldn't be fit to administer a village 🤣
Erix X.Li is great thinker.
I came here to refresh my thoughts and mind. Lucky I am young enough to see how the world changes manifest in the next few decades and hope I will be slightly wiser then than now.
Eric👍🏻
Wathing In 2021, what an insight！
"Centre of Universe" lol, The Korean didn't get it, didn't he?
he was hiding his laughter :D
LOVE HIS PROFOUND INTELLIGENT GREAT INSIGHT
What a joke
@@biglemoncoke No, you are joke
Jump from 10-stories building you are a troll
He is speaking common sense to me, in a fluent way. Many thoughts are also from the Chinese culture. Does it sound so surprising?
This guy is amazing. This kind of speech is probably not within the scope of freedom of speech in western countries, otherwise why the views and likes are less than four years ago?
Because the speaker is bastard of some CCP cadre, crony capitalism in China is quite despicable even DPRK hates them.
Terence Chung So you agree with him, freedom of speech should be regulated, and the way some idiots like you talk should be banned in China, haha, you are probably a loser from HK
@@russianfund No I don't agree with the guy, he is a totalitarian regime loyalist, and who are you? another one of those trolls.
Well spoken Erix ..... remember china is a land of Confucius and the deep rooted culture will also always there
2018 it is still true.
Eric is .... intelligent/smart...... Much respects young man! (yeah, I'm older than him). I admire his intelligence and reasonalbleness!!! I can talk to this guy for a looong time!
oxford union... kindly input english subtitles for people cant hear but can read... thank you...
24:16 “ it’s a matter of time before Americans begin to ask their country back “ (said in 2013) “We will build the wall!” (2016-2020)
5΄¨00. " the greatest improvement of life, of greatest number of people, in the sortest
amount of time, in the human history". That says it all.
What about the greatest massacre in human history during cultural revolution?
@@biglemoncoke Good God, 6 years later and you're still here.
Milin Lim didn’t you hear? Premier Lee ke Jiang said 600 million people in China earn less than 1000 usd a month. Wait 1000 RMB supernotes a month. 中国真的强大了！
@@biglemoncoke I also hear that in the last 50 years, the lower income sector in America is lower than it was 50 years ago. The only country who managed to achieve this distinction. Well done..... Wait a minute. You 're not American. Oh well. What next??
Milin Lim the fall of US empire doesn’t mean China have the ability to take its helm. Remember when ren Zhengfei said Huawei can produce its own chips? They still need to import from Taiwan conductor company or go belly up today.
Blind faith in liberal democracy as a one-size -fits-all political template is about as bad as blind faith in communism (as countries such as the former Soviet Union, Egypt, the Philippines, etc. found out the very hard way). The main takeaway here is that there's no such universal political template or simple formula: countries should continually adapt their polities to best fit the changing realities on the ground. Pragmatism over blind faith and ideology, democratic or otherwise.
Excellent point to bring up that there could be lives lost if we were to build a more collaborative world. It is difficult to see how it would be more chaotic than what we have now.
I am happy that I can agree with him and disagree with him on certain points and talk about it publicly if I desire to. Idk, to me this is pretty important. This interview certainly provides insight to China’s citizens views with a twist of his own take on the situation.
this South Korean Commentator is really a spokesman for the United Nations. perhaps he should stop asking stupid Questions and spend the time for the interview more wisely?
You can't say the Chairman is a spokesman for the United Nations - but what if he were? China belongs to the United Nations - it should not be at odds with the UN. Maybe your problem is that he is a South Korean - from a highly successful country.
South Korea should be nuked to Oblivion. even japan hates Koreans. Are you Korean by any chance, or are you a Globalist?
No. I'm English but I've visited S Korea and I have Korean friends. If you want to 'nuke' a country - whatever your crazy reasons - you are dangerous and mad. South Korea is a big success in the global economy - maybe you haven't noticed? I admire Japan, China and S. Korea. and they all deserve their great successes. North Korea is a disaster and there is worse news to come from that unfortunate country.
South Korea is a Slave empire and the most Oppressive regime in the world. it shall be destroyed.
You are confusing it with North Korea. South Korea is a normal, modern, successful democratic nation.
Brilliant talk. Thank you.
What he predicted comes ture
If I didn't check the date, I would have thought this interview was conducted only recently.
The truth is that it is not just the system every system has its pros and cons, the culture of each nation also a bit different so it is not like a condom one size fits all. The West thinking based on its way of life and environment, please it is not fit to the East. A good person can run the country no matter what system? Quality of people can change bad to good, not the system.
Well crafted and thoughtful considered responses. He could just as easily have pointed to the whole scale lack of participation of voters in Western "democracies" - because they, the workers, know that no major Party represents their interests. There is a real crisis in bourgeois party "democracy" - they represent the total interests of the Capitalists and nothing more!
The only function of the CPC is it's effiency in keeping foreigners out of the Chinese soil.
The irony. You do know that in terms of wealth disparity and corruption, CPC is infinitely worse than any of the conservative parties in the West, right?
dilegentelectron The top 90 richest people in the CPC control over $90 billion in personal wealth, while the top 90 richest politicians in the US have only over $1.2 billion in personal wealth.
You haven't a fucking clue what you're banging on about do you.
Rocketeer1001
What have you been smoking? Do you not remember that your government is a puppet of the market, while it's the other way around in China? Bring your big rich company and bank holders to compare.
dilegentelectron I know more than about the PRC than you can forget about the West, so listen up you silly foreign fuck.
I said that inequality is worse in the PRC than anywhere in the West (and that isn't surprising because in the West there are democratic checks on elite power) You then implied that the inequality in the U.S. is worse than in the PRC so I presented you with facts (and no they aren't from the US "media" just because it doesn't come from the CPC controlled media mouthpiece doesn't mean that it comes from the US media): the top 90 richest people in the CPC control over $90 billion in personal wealth, while the top 90 richest politicians in the US have only over $1.2 billion in personal wealth. So what is your response to this, are you going to surrender and admit that I am right, or are you going to pretend that it doesn't exist?
very good speech ..
An uni student asking kindergarten kids questions to a venture capitalist/social scienctist.
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This video has way more likes and views a year ago. Strong AI working from TH-cam?
If it promotes this, it is excellent, Claire W.
Situation is even worse for his TED talk video...this is just as described in this video:"free of speech never exists"
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Most cannot think outside the books.
I mostly agree with this guy but I'd argue modern liberal democracy isn't completely dysfunctional - it has achieved great success in making some people (mostly on the winning side but also some from the losing side) feel good about themselves.
Pls check all nowadays modern and industrialized countries, all their successful stories were began with and conducted by authoritarian or monarchy, no matter it was Uk, USA or S Korea, in which there was no liberal democracy at all.
2020/9, prediction proved.
The Singapore system is similar. Its essentially a single party rule with fake democracy, or u could call it a hybrid.
Singapore LKY did not believe in democracy too. However the China govt maybe better. Singapore govt has too many princelings.
Democracy is a popularity contest, rather than competency.
No aesthetic judgment to different ideologies, but a problem-oriented, pragmatic approach. China is big enough to conduct piecemeal social engineering by trial and error. It has created two incentives, one is central, the other is local. This corresponds to a top-down and a bottom-up approach. The centre can promote nationwide what has been experimented locally as a successful model. A strong centre that makes long-term strategic plans and a local that can execute, innovate and adapt, reform will be a forever loop that updates the system. Worldwide compete takes the collective conscious of a whole nation. China shielded itself from borderless freedom-loving capitalists ensures its stability and independence, and its people, not belonging to a borderless world, but a nation that has its own memory, spirit and soul.
Great Leap Forward, Cultural Revolution, and Tiananmen Square Protest: in The 2000s: Poison Milk Incident, Tofu Bridge in Sichuan, you can say the corrupted officials of the CCP have spirit, memory and soul. Good luck trying to defraud the world with flowery words after the coronavirus.
I now understand why he went to Stanford. I wished I was accepted there too but I'm too dumb like the general public in the comment section.
Berkerley
At 10:01, 对棒子的“富/官二代论” 打脸，不能更精彩，注意看棒子的表情~
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Watching this video in 2020, this is the worst host I've ever seen, including those young players in Universities, and come on, this is Oxford. His skeptical face looks always ready to mock, and after every nasty question he came up with, there was weird, quirky expression on his face, like 'here it is, the fatal question comes'. what was happening to him, facial paralysis?
He was lectured about South Korea's political landscape full of princelings.
@@jackyeh7512 haha but it is true.
So true lolll
He is simply Bruce Lee in political science.
vote for China to be more aggressive. Being humble can no longer reflect the reality.
We shall also mention that elections are so divisive for the people. I'm saying this in 2024, where electing trump or biden is a matter for divorce; electing the congress party instead of Modi can cause a fight. Not mentioning the costs of election, and the paralysis in the government in an election year etc ... In an authoritarian system, the emperor is good, it's superior to democracy. The fallacy of the west is that they cannot imagine that China can have good emperor after good emperor, because they don't know the meritocracy system in the Chinese communist party. Eric Li is the only one who explains this in the west. That's not enough. More people should explain this.
This entire talk is just a case of the pot calling the kettle black. Some western countries did not adopt democracy, they evolved democracy and we have yet to see how they will continue to evolve. Saying it doesn't work is facile and specious. African democracy was corrupted by multinationals and nepotism at every turn, morally bankrupting the entire process. The Chinese system could work, the structures don't totally prohibit discourse and meritocracy. However this guy fails to mention the mass exploitation of people in China that allows men like him to grow rich and for the west to maintain it's standard of living. The Chinese system is optimal for the rich and the west not necessarily the average Chinese person. They need to move to a consumer led economy if they want to avoid massive instability arising from low wages, out of control pollution and massive inquality. China needs a pay rise and a clean up and then maybe its system can achieve the equality its constitution guarantees its people. THEN we can talk about whether democracy does or doesn't work and if it's the only way. He's clearly a smart man but he's an oligarch who will pay lip service to the party until there is inevitable mass scale tax reform and corruption is rooted out. He's like a Chinese version of an American patriot billionaire businessman - contrary in essence to what he claims to be. He doesn't address any of the issues Chinese people have to deal with in the future just peddles more doom and gloom global disorder rubbish to support global corporatism over liberal democcracy, socialist democracy and even a one party system. Loyal to noone but his own bank balance.
On another note, Europe also considered itself centre of the universe so noone can fault the Chinese for having simliar ideas.
MackerelCat you actually elaborated too much. He is a business man for sure, but what u said about his purse and government relations is pure imagination. Plus, U r probably talking about the China of 10 years ago. you need an update. Today, people's salaries are much higher than before, even for the blue collars. Sometimes blue collar wages can rival those of the white collar, especially in the Guang Dong province. China is not as bad as u think and depict. if u only read books, you will be outdated pretty fast.
Good point
African democracy was thwarted by multinationals and nepotism...
Hm sounds familiar.
T..t...trump
Let's look at his cabinet lol. That's corporatism and nepotism to the extreme.
Canada is under a princeling. The ruling elite in Europe have the same bloodlines as the kings of two centuries ago.
The very fact that Africa is failing with democracy is precisely because of these vulnerabilities. And now the mega rich have figured it out in the West, too.
The Gini coefficient recently crossed - US is more unequal and getting more unequal every year, and China, while not great, is going the opposite way.
In 2018 things talked by Eric is still coming true. I'm looking at the school shooting tragedy in Florida influence the relationship between basic personal right(i saw a video of a father, a man lost her daughter and only ask for a reliable school security management to make school safer, he dont care about the law of ban guns or anything political, and this is the basic personal right im talking about) and politics, and i believe since this tragedy happened in the US it should be worked out in a democratic way and we will see. To my understand what democracy is, it is the momentum and space to change and modified a country to be better fitted for people, not a certain concept or rules. Years ago when i studied in Australia when i first stayed abroad and luckily in an immigration country contains a lot of different thing for a long time i figure out the key of everything is to understand, not to judge right or wrong, left or right, no certain thing would make sense if it is only itself, there always something else exist with it to let it make sense, Im a student and this is so simple that every western university ive been to is emphasizing critical thinking, to me it is the'understand' i talked about in academy. A little bit further the concepet of countries is kind of stupid in my mind when i was around 22 years old, if people live in the same world why we need things seperate us for politics？region?colour? what is for to make some people in the world better off and others dont. It is a mad teen's mind and the country concepet is existing right now it is those differences to let country concept make sense and then it is important to understand those differences. Actually from Eric' new world disorder' it doesnt mean chaos or a new rules is coming it is talking about the differences do exist and thats why the country make sense. I think like democracy itself, if a country is suitble for it, why it is not coming to the country itself like a country change into it. but brought to the country from somewhere else and telling it is right for you? China my home country is specail to some people and got plenty of problems under not only current politics but also our own development process and eco facts. I heard a lot by face or from comments that quite a lot foreign friends thinks China is rich without development in other area like politics, but i guess there wont be a mom in this world could breed an 'OK' baby without any change to her uterus‘ size, a baby will be fine only if the uterus the mother is fine. Maybe it is not called democracy, but since it's fine and exist it make sense and it could or should be understanded not to be judged.