"How do you prove that you are the legitimate government of China?" When over 90% of the 1.4 billion ppl say so, that's a pretty good indicator. How many "democratic" countries can say that?
The west is authoritarian as hell. A communist or a revolutionary would never be allowed to lead a mass movement here, they have jailed, smeared and even killed people on the radical left who threatened to upset the political order. Fred Hampton and Malcolm X are but the most famous examples.
@@slawekwojtowicz Please don't show your ignorance here. Tibet was still a serf era before the CCP liberated Tibet. If there was genocide, it was also done by the Dalai Lama's religious government. You can google what is "human skin tangkas" first.
I understand why he is frustrated in defending China, it's like a kid who got 100 percent in exams and yet kept been asked by another kid who used to get high marks instead of asking HOW he got the high marks, all the questions are about whether he cheated, whether his mom helped him, whether he bribed teacher to get the mark. IT IS INSULTING. I want to see one day China does it to the US.
We don't want to see China do the same to the USA. The USA has dumbed-down the discourse so much, to such a base level, a step away from gutter-talk. The enlightened views Eric is presenting here stand a couple levels above for sure.
Basically the Prof is saying, why are you not like us? When will you be like us? They just cannot comprehend a system that is not like theirs. So much education, but so little knowledge
@@fannyalbi9040 Per Wikipedia and other websites. Keith Richburg is an American journalist and former foreign correspondent who spent more than 30 years working for The Washington Post. He is currently director of the Journalism and Media Studies Centre of the University of Hong Kong.[
what Keith said just make me feel more disappointed and depressed about the whole west world, and I really don't know what kind of future these guys are leading/pushing us to.
They have a christian view of the world, and they’re butting heads with a confucian view of how a state should be governed, which is based on harmony, good governance, hierarchical structure of society, etc. the west can definitely emulate china’s government, but they’ll just have to stop thinking like christians.
Eric is being too polite to the smart mouth moderator, he should have shut him up quick and hard for his hypocrisy. It's the same set of propaganda questions, what a waste of time.
A waste of time indeed. Also a waste of my Internet credits watching this 2 crappie moderators with no substance in their questions. No wonder there's so many dumb and ignorant people out there in the West.
@@yqisq6966 You are probably correct, but one has to have knowledge and the know the both the positives and negatives of your argument. That’s what Eric Li has. He’s also very insightful which I really appreciate.
Eric’s responses and comments are so convincing and inspiring that I am literally taking notes! Never done that to a TH-cam video outside of school work 😂.
Amazing lot of learning about Chinese 1 party system. Western ask questions for the sake of argument rather to understand or learn from others success. I think this is the main reason of the western decline.
There’s something to this idea. The West conducts political discourse by arguing from one side. Interest groups fight their corner. So solutions to problems are either surrender, compromise or gridlock. Political discourse in China is the monopoly of the CCP and conducted through dialectical materialism, not through interest groups. Solutions can be holistic, addressing root causes.
@@brucelee4066 Except, asking tough questions to argue for the sake of argument without genuine intent to improve and learn through asking those tough questions, but only for showmanship and one-upsmanship, which are the Western reality, will only waste your life away without ever allowing you to improve at all!
This due keeps asking why other countries (most western countries) are not happy with China. It is not China's job to make other country's people happy. If you don't like China, don't any business with China, as simple as that.
Actually many Asian countries are not happy with China and we can't just not do business with China and escape the CCP's expansionism. The CCP's sea claims have been refuted by the UN but they keep trying to grab at most of SE Asia, India, Bhutan, Japan, Taiwan etc. I am pretty sure none of these are Western countries but being near to China we are more aware of how expansionist the CCP is now than Western countries.
The press especially in the West suppresses all positive news about China, and are the same time exaggerates the negative.Its no wonder their people have negative opinion about China.
Eric is such a gentleman of wisdom and elegance. His patience is beyond remarks in the face of annoying and provoking questions after questions from Keith who cannot listen nor think. Keith represents the arrogance of the west that's already in the blood, he couldn't even noticed it. But Eric is so brilliant in answering every single one of the provoking and annoying questions providing details and logic and patience. Bravo, Eric!
I agree! This Keith needs to be more self-reflective! Eric identified the basic problem, which is that it’s hard to see thr world from another society’s perspective when you own society is so arrogant.
It is working. That's how democracy works STUPID. Everyone is given a voice and an opinion about which political party best reflects their own opinions and would then governed for a determined number of years before the next election. The people can either elect the same party members again or if dissatisfied, choose a different political party. But you decide on what's best for you NOT what's forced on you without any of your input. Can you understand that STUPID? I guessed you guys really miss your dynasties with its King and eunuchs, and decided to accept one with a committee decision making process which still has to be decided by one person. What a sad predicament...
@@logicalthoughts "If voting made any difference, they wouldn't let us do it" - Mark Twain. Man, that Mark Twain must be really STUPID, huh? "Voting is meaningless, America was bought and sold a long time ago" - George Carlin. Man, another STUPID guy, huh?
@@logicalthoughts Since you seem to like calling people STUPID a lot, a quick reminder, no matter how smart and well-thought-out your opinions are, in your ideal system it'll only take one STUPID like me to cancel your vote lol. Sad, looks like you're still getting stuff forced on you by a bunch of STUPIDs had they got you outnumbered.
This Host is very unprofessional and reduced to blaming China for this and that. It's Not an interview but more sounded like bashing without knowing the facts.
It is always like that. It never changes, the same old aggressiveness and never stop bashing. It has very strong psychological backings of such tactic: defeat your opponent with harsh negativity attacks or belittle them until they collapse from inside.
@@fredtan1506 It's more likely that this fool is kept by UHK to demonstrate the futile efforts of the west to continue to undermine and demonize China. No verifiable fact can change an idiot that is biased and lack the intelligence and realization to be open-minded to consider any notion outside of his prejudice. Completely laughable that this is harbored by a black American who should be an expert on bias, especially against his skin color.
Eric is the realist, Prof Keith is the idealist....reality creates results, ideas create fantasies. Agree with Eric that we need "result based" not "procedure based" democracy and leadership.
Idealist? 7 billion people, a few continents, almost 200 countries, equal numbers of cultures. It is about society evolving itself via self reflection and appraisal and learning.
The amount of times the guest speaker was interrupted is enough to make a police interrogator blush. Eric Li was treated as neither a guest nor a speaker in this video.
Keith’s communication problem is he listens to reply he doesn’t listen to understand. Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones . Mr LI, is brilliant as usual.
@Shareef, You're exactly right. Mr Keith Richburg needs to empty his mind so that he can have any meaningful conversation about China and CPC with other experts. He already has all these ingrained western narratives about China, it's hard to watch. He asked why Pew Research shows low positive view on China among western countries, if he's smart enough, he should know the answer himself. The US just approved $300 mil. fund to solely focused on saying bad things about China, to drive a wedge between China and other countries, and sabotage the one belt one road initiative. Most of major western media such as BBC, CNN, NY Times, Washington Post, not only focused on only reporting negative news about China, they also exaggerate, and a lot of times, spread pure lies about China. It's all these propoganda against China that has caused China's image to plummet among western citizens. Majority of the western people who actually visited China all reported that China's nothing like what they've read, heard, watched about China in the west. If Pew research actually polled people in Asia and Africa, they will get a much better picture because they are slightly less influenced by the narratives from the western media. Western citizens think they have freedom of speech, free press, but they just don't know they're brainwashed by the narratives the MSM presented to them every single day, only the smart ones understand the real situation. People in China are well informed about the events happening in this world, 100-200 mil Chinese nationals travelled to other countries, and then returned home. If China's that bad, these folks won't return home. It's true Chinese media is censored, but they don't demonize US like the way US demonizes China every single day (with lies). China doesn't spend $300 mil. to focus on just badmouthing US (like US doing it to China), China doesn't go to other countries to force them not to do business with US (US is guilty of this), China doesn't force them to cancel an existing Contract with US, or face consequences (US is again guilty of this).
The members of China's leadership are all selected by thousands of people, and they are as competent as professional brokers in a company. Unlike the Western democratic system, where good luck can select outstanding talents, but most of the selected are mediocrities and clowns. Otherwise, do you think China's rapid development in the past 40 years came from? I hope that people in the West can learn more about it, or that all countries or governments in the West do not want people in their own country to know the true facts, so that they will continue to discredit China and make the people hate China unintentionally, in order to achieve their incompetent governance. Forgotten in the crowd.
This is the second time I've seen this moderator get crushed by Eric. I see Keith as part of the problem in HK, I believe he's professor their. He's asking bad faith questions to get us to hate China and HK pays him to teach their kids.
Li is clearly a CCP sponsored advocate for them, nothing more, simply because in his argument CCP is right in every way and is perfect, which is clearly a strong bias and physically impossible!
As a Chinese college student who was part of 1989 Tiananmen protest, I support Xi Jinping as long term president of China. If Xi was president in 1990s, I would not have left China. Now that I have become a n American citizen, I am happy for Chinese to have such down to earth person to be the president of China.
I doubt your being a us citizen. if u were, u would all wish yr Chinese comrades to live the prosperity now u live in USA. I was in USA for only 3 years (1989 - 1991 ) n upon coming home I could afford a house in my home country. U either bulshit us or u fake yr identity. Shame on u.
When I was a kid I saw police/soldier was beaten to death and hang under bridge. And a dead body of soldier floating on river right in front of my home when the so called TianAnMen square “Massacre”happened.
@@rusdayatiidrus5401 你是谁means nothing to me. 我是美国公民，你去嫉妒吧。my mother still lives in China and I thank Xi Jinping for giving her pension and health care that I don’t have to worry about her.
Thank you for your insight Eric. I've learned something by listening. I hope more of us in the west can keep an open mind. One human family ❤ We can all learn from each others successes.
Thanks Eric for having the facts to counter the hypocrisy of the FCC. The stupid questions are starting to get tiresome even for us living in the West.
That's their BBC-patented style and tactics -- tricking the interviewees every step of the way, wanting to extract some wordings and then twisting them into their own narratives, to fit their agenda.
Eric has become really fed-up of late. No longer that urbane, sharp yet sanguine dapper gentleman he was a few years ago. He has clearly had enough of Western arrogance and bullying. I kind of miss the younger Eric but I so get where he is coming from. Wolf Warrior indeed!!!! And I like it.
Well Eric has already crossed the 50 year mark (despite still looking rather young for his age), so I get that he's no longer patient with the bullshxt.
Sorry their questions are very biased and not intelligent. Firstly, the Chinese doctors did warn about his serious the Covid was by publishing their research in jan 2020 at the Lancet. No one really paid any attention. In terms of trade, who started to ban Huawei in 2018? Who split on their biggest client to be on good side of Trump?
You're exactly right. Mr Keith Richburg needs to empty his mind so that he can have any meaningful conversation about China and CPC with other experts. He already has all these ingrained western narratives about China, it's hard to watch. He asked why Pew Research shows low positive view on China among western countries, if he's smart enough, he should know the answer himself. The US just approved $300 mil. fund to solely focused on saying bad things about China, to drive a wedge between China and other countries, and sabotage the one belt one road initiative. Most of major western media such as BBC, CNN, NY Times, Washington Post, not only focused on only reporting negative news about China, they also exaggerate, and a lot of times, spread pure lies about China. It's all these propoganda against China that has caused China's image to plummet among western citizens. Majority of the western people who actually visited China all reported that China's nothing like what they've read, heard, watched about China in the west. If Pew research actually polled people in Asia and Africa, they will get a much better picture because they are slightly less influenced by the narratives from the western media. Western citizens think they have freedom of speech, free press, but they just don't know they're brainwashed by the narratives the MSM presented to them every single day, only the smart ones understand the real situation. People in China are well informed about the events happening in this world, 100-200 mil Chinese nationals travelled to other countries, and then returned home. If China's that bad, these folks won't return home. It's true Chinese media is censored, but they don't demonize US like the way US demonizes China every single day (with lies). China doesn't spend $300 mil. to focus on just badmouthing US (like US doing it to China), China doesn't go to other countries to force them not to do business with US (US is guilty of this), China doesn't force them to cancel an existing Contract with US, or face consequences (US is again guilty of this).
I really appreciate hearing Eric’s point of view. I think his explaining China’s perspective is enlightening and should be heard by as many Americans and westerners as possible. Fostering understanding of each other (west and east, China and US) is vital to a future that should be characterized by peaceful coexistence and cooperation, not by ratcheting up of bellicose rhetoric and confrontation. These lively discussions, even the adversarial questions from the interviewer, are what can lead to more constructive exchanges of ideas that restore a more positive direction between great nations, going forward. Disengagement and decoupling is NOT the way to go. I hope Eric and similar brilliant thinkers from China will be heard more in the future.
But that is the problem, the western media/politicians do not want to show this kind of perspective to the west. Because it will paint the west in a very bad light. They will lie, belittle, tell half-truths, just to provide the narrative that the west is better. A simple documentary of PBS regarding poverty alleviation got cancelled, just because they paint China in a too positive perspective compared to all the social problems in the US...
@@fawaka6664 Agreed it’s a problem. What it will take is bold leadership. I am old enough to remember when Egypt and Israel were mortal enemies in the 1970’s, and then Egypt’s Anwar Sadat offered to come to Israel to thaw the ice and negotiate a peaceful coexistence. With Jimmy Carter’s help, it resulted in peace accords and Egypt recognizing Israel and its right to exist. Similar analogy would be Kissinger’s and Nixon’s trips to China in early 1970’s. I’m also old enough to remember that, and how America feared China, calling it “Red China” prior to Nixon’s visit and opening up. Now, it will take a summit between Biden and Xi, reaching agreement to take down the temperature between the countries and foster further dialogue. Maybe that will happen at the G20 this fall. Hope so. If it happens, then perhaps the media and other politicians will begin to take a less hostile, if not a friendlier tone, toward China. If it doesn’t happen, then the problems continue until there is a real crisis. Let’s hope it’s the former, which would be in the enlightened self-interest of both.
@@KGold53 LOL...adding to your point regarding being old enough..:D :D I was not so old but to understand the world completely in the 70's, but I was aware of this in the 80's...:) Unfortunately, those times are very different compared to the current situation. At the moment the US is about to lose its nr 1 position regarding economic might. The west is trying to destabilize or hinder the growth of China. From an ideological point of view, plus with the internal problems the US has, having China as an alternative model sets dangerous precedence... I also do hope that cool heads will prevail and not come in any dangerous situations. Unless of course we get invaded by aliens..:D :D
People outside of China can watch, participate in this kind of discussions but can mainland Chinese have same opportunity and rights? Can this video be uploaded into major Chinese social sites like Bilibili, Weibo with full unedited version? I think there is no common online platform or medium for common Mainland Chinese citizens to have a frank interaction with peoples outside of China. Only a handful of Mainland Chinese use VPN and the Chinese social media is highly censored and restricted.
@@Aramsa-Khan no he didn't he lost a step or two. Many of the point's he made in his infamous ted talk he had to reverse and equate the change to a pendulum as an uncontrollable force . He side stepped answering questions than responding directly to what was asked. He was highly defensive instead of eloquently explaining.
Eric is very well-spoken and he makes excellent points that need to be heard. Eric’s ancestors must be very proud of him. I’m grateful to learn more through his presentations.
Yes 🙌 Frank. Especially for me, third generation overseas Chinese, haven’t even set foot on Chinese soil and knows very little about it. Eric gives a very enlightening perspective! 👍👍🙏🙏
@@emkoh2746Would love to have you back to China on a short trip. Meanwhile, there are endless video footages of China now and before pandemics even started on TH-cam, especially from Indian North American and European vloggers.
I see so many fail at answering the usual tough questions, but everytime Eric delivers! Great analysis, i have honestly shifted a lot of views and predispositions. Most of it came from pandemic and the 2016 election, brexit etc. But also these informative talks honestly
Love Eric to share the perspective from China people. He presented a coherant argument on how China is being run, and how this model is bringing success. If only Keith can open his mind and digging deeper into Eric's chain of argument, we may learn even more from him on the mindset of the Chinese government or Chinese people. Keith being a journalist is so closed mind and lopsided in his view alarms me how much we can trust media to present facts and not individual opinions of a journalist.
Dr. Li was an ophthalmologist, not a specialist in infectious disease, and he was not arrested, he was only warned by the police not to transfer messages that are not proved. At least 7 people were warned at that period according to Chinese law. Actually, he only sent a message like "SARS is coming again, take care..." (we all know it's not SARS) to his doctor classmates, and one of his classmates took a snapshot of his message and sent it to her mother, and her mother sent this picture to many groups of old people and made a large number of people panic about it, many of them left Wuhan and transferred the Coronavirus to other cities. And there was already a chief doctor from the Infectious disease department in one hospital in Wuhan, who submit the condition to CCD days ago, which follows the SOP built after SARS, much earlier than Dr. Li. A team of specialists was already built at that time, this team went to Wuhan to investigate the situation twice, and decided to lock down Wuhan at the second visit. But Rumors always go faster than truth, especially when the superpower country supports the rumors.
Li is clearly a CCP sponsored advocate for them, nothing more, simply because in his argument CCP is right in every way and is perfect, which is clearly a strong bias and physically impossible!
Great discussions. Wish the people who asked questions did not have their own answers. Isn't it waste of time if you think you know the answers before you ask questions? Thanks Eric for providing facts and genuine thoughts. I too wish all kinds of systems can work for different people at different places, like what nature intends to be.
See the democracy in Malaysia, my own country, the people now suffer a lot because of incapable political leaders, they are like frogs jumping from one party to another. So, democracies are in decaying all over the world, most of the democratic countries are control by a group of Elites and most of them are very selfish.....poli (many), tis (suckers).
In Malaysia it's always a capitalism with the skin of democracy that inherited from British. For China also believe in democracy but in communism way, not capitalism way This is why China's democracy in communism way is so successful.
No one need to ask that, USA is falling apart as we speak. USA will dissolve into several countries as it is heading on the same path of the SOVIET UNION
The USA system was born from freeing the European wealth immigrants from Tax obligations from the monarch in Europe. China rose from freeing workers and peasant from control from imperial class and collaborative capitalists owners of resources
Its good to have those questions asked because they are the main criticisms that media write about china. Keith let eric answer without interrupting. The whole session was interesting because of the questions and eric answered them well.
They must have a poor recruitment programme because Eric buries him every time. Keith believes that being a liberal society is somehow more important than alleviating poverty and developing the country. The vast majority of Chinese people are happy with their government so why should they change just to satisfy people like him. His arrogance and ignorance is astonishing considering his many years living in that part of the world.
Keith has conveniently "forgotten" that most western corporate media in the US has mentioned that the Covid 19 virus was present in several US states in late November/early December 2019, Fort Detrick, and blood samples in Italy in Sept 2019. Also when Eric has corrected Keith in his answers, Keith nervously giggles away his foolishness in posing ridiculous questions.
@Cliff Lee this blackie isnt interested in hearing the china's side of story. In his mind, China is already the big bad evil n anything everything from China is always bad judging from his leading questions. Funny thing is this blackie chooses to ignore that china was infact the victim of falsehood perpetuated by the west but when the chinese fought back, they r labelled arrogant n thin-skinned !! Makes me wonder who is more evil of the lot
There is also this info 1. Known from way back: Fauci and others are in favor of gain of function. Many other top doctors think it's dangerous, insane. 2. Lab leaks occur and Obama bans all of it in 2014. 3. Fauci et al side step Obama's ban through Eco Health and HAND this over to Wuhan. 4. They get results. It's PUBLISHED. ALL OF THIS IS PUBISHED AND CAN BE PROVEN. 5. Some lab workers get sick, but as we know, they don't get immediately sick right there in the lab. Some others elsewhere, near a market, get sick, just a few. It takes days. So: this is a strange pneumonia. Don't blame China. Lab leaks happen all the time, which is why Obama banned it GOF. But yes indeed, checking blood bank blood from way before Dec. 2019, there were covid ANTIBODIES in it. So whoever donated that blood had covid and got over it. Doctors in Lombardy recall some people with an odd pneumonia, but it was so few that they fluffed it off. How many others were asymptomatic? MOST people were asymptomatic! Back to China. 6. A doctor or two speak out in a panic and get in trouble for making a panic. 7. Now more have it, NOW it is known. China puts genome up for all to see, says it's epidemic and closes down Hubei province where Wuhan is a city. 8. Too late. People from uninfected areas travel. Many had already traveled. Not all who traveled were Chinese. Consider how many people had it with no symptoms, which is THE problem here, and nobody knew about this part of it back then. You can have covid and not be sick at all. THAT is how it spreads so fast. People aren't sick at all, but they have covid, no symptoms - and it spreads. NOW this is known. Back then nobody knew anything.
I like how Keith keep asking the tough questions using western media tones and critics, it's important so the world can hear a different voice and start thinking
I am already old in age, if not, I would strive to go to China and meet them in person and greet them. I love China and the Chinese, and I defend them every day and night. Small, but I fulfill myself fighting culturally and ideologically in all senses and areas. China, a people of peace, friendly, polite, honest, kind, is an excellent people, I love and admire President Xi Jinping a lot, I know more or less his story from the videos on the internet. A great man! There is how I admire him, only God knows that. And our dear Eric, I love you too and I am your admirer, you are formidable. May God bless you more and more, because you are fighters and deserving of all successes, my congratulations. I believe China is in the Heart of God.
Nice! I simply feel satisfied and comfortable after watching this video. Eric's answers are precise and straight to the point, Keith is not on par with Eric, Eric is a much deeper thinker with a much brighter vision.
Somehow they like to question others about the wrongdoing ( in their perspective)... who give you the privilege to point to others. Look at yourself first before you speak!
@Ryan Alex we didn’t bomb anyone for 40 years. We are more interested in building infrastructure and improve people’s lives. By the way how is the high speed rail between Sf and la coming along?
What a wonderful brilliant debate! Love Eric’s responses and I’ve got so excited to hear those arguments and giggles sometimes by his wise words! Admiring Eric!
Keith insisted China self criticise on the cultural revolution; why the Seven Countries that invaded China not self criticise themselves? What a hypocritical question!
@@kdegraa You are right, they were different. One was bad policy, the other was bad intention. I hope you know the difference. Which one deserves more self criticism?
@@kdegraa its called Cause and Effect. If i grab you child and dragged its shoe from its feet and it fled into the road into an on coming car. Or it wandered in the forest for days, whatever happens to that child during that period until she gets back home is an Effect from shock and for survival. Got it , if not , reasoning power is damaged then you are suffering from, mental conditioning leads to cognitive Dissonance regarding China Where did you get the information regarding china and its crimes. Friend country or foe of china ? Did you ask you self that question ?
These 2 are intellectually on different levels. It’s like a phd talking to a high schooler. How did they get a high schooler teaching university students? HK youth are screwed.
hmm You question ,now prompts me to think, this prof looks Afo American ,was he deliberately asking the common propaganda narratives of the ruling elate for rebuttals ? If so they both did a good job, and well plaid .
When a good quality leader appears, you’ll want to cling on to him, pray he’ll be in health to rule until his last breathe. When everything is running perfectly, you don’t want to risk with a replacement regulated by rules. God bless China via Xi Jinping.
Eric was brilliant and I am sure this guy Keith must had regretted interviewing him and had him answered every ridiculous biased questions and dismantling his distorted views. Good Job Eric !!
Keith is suppose to be a professor in HK university. How di HK university allow this kind of professor to teach the students with notable results in chaos that happenened in the past.
Basically the intsrviewer's questions drive towards to make audience believe that election system, western " plutocracy" is the only correct way of governance and care less on its citizen's well being ! Waste time session for Eric !
As an Asian, who's grown up in Europe/Germany, I very often have Diskussions about China/CPC with my German or European friends. Last time was just 2 days ago. I myself have never visiting Asia or China since 1979. But as a kid form a Vietnamese Mother and a Han Chinese Father, our family where very political. Also my German Godparents are very political people. But having Diskussion with Westerns are not an easy topic. Very oft it greated a cognitive dissonance among them. My Mindset is that of Mr. Eric Li.
@@ayambo3281 The West is not a monolithic bloc. It's very dangerous to portray this as a kind of "clash of civilizations". Just as Asia is extremely diverse...
@@Invinoveritas85 there are plenty of Europeans and Americans in Singapore. Most display the same atttidues especially when it comes to politics and discredit our views, believing that we are brainwashed and have nothing to learn. Eric Li hit the nail on the head where he said that liberal democracy has become a religion. And anything else is illiberal, or illegitimate.
I like Erik a lot, eventhough he's 'a bit' defensive when one tries to attack China in a subtle way. But he's brilliant, there is no doubt about that.......
For a long time, I am very much fed up with such questions from "westerners" who are self-righteous, arrogant and stereotypical. They always ask questions in a way that you did wrong first, so now explain it. But anyway, Eric did a superb job---intellegent, eloquent, persuasive and patient enough to answer stupid questions full of krap.
The black man interviewer is being unreasonable. Li has given reasonable answers. The interview wants just to discredit China. What’s legitimate if it is only procedural and now found to be less functional? And he seems like insisting China must have the election in order to convince acceptance. Why? If you think it is good you go ahead and let those think differently have their freedom to choose. About the doctor being being not allowed to inform the west, I am of the opinion not many people really know what has transpired, including the interviewer. A large part was the work of the western media in blowing big. Then again the thing happened just within weeks, and China has been responsible enough to provide the’geno’ why such a fuss and nasty provocation? The chinese should be smart enough not to take the bait, for China is doing right and good why change? The west been on the wrong track because they just protest for protest seek, just imagine now in America roughly half are in opposition and they are doing the protest work just for protest seek. This is a good system? Before this you’re good but some things have changed and you are no more good. And still you want other to follow a mistake ? Very vicious indeed.
The true of the matter is no matter what China does, the western media will always find ways to discredit them. The doctor who sounded the alarm was in fact did interviewed and investigated by the local police so what.?! The Chinese government did later on acknowledged this doctor was correct and made a public statement about it. Several Wu Han local officials were fired as a result. That’s an effective and responsible government should do. Unlike my beloved country where millions ppl died and no officials being held in responsible for their poor handling of the pandemic.
@@larryholou No, the doctor was not correct. He said the virus was the return of SARS. But it was not SARS. So it was fair that he received a warning for spreading misinformation. The government only wanted to honor the doctor who died as a hero in the midst of the pandemic. Also Keith was just repeating the western lie that the doctor said it was SARS like. He said it was SARS which only caused panic in the public.
@@lipincheng Good to point out the actual detail uttered by Dr. LWL and the need to prevent panic when an unknown malady is beginning. L.L. is 99+% correct in his response, so thanks for that. More importantly, as in his country, my beloved country truly f'ed up, now with 610K deaths and still counting, idiot Trump and his minions are not rotting in jail, and Biden along with Blinken et al., keep siding with brain-dead Republicans (and many Dems) to demonize China.
@@moyclan4663 Whether China handled everything right in the early days is for the most part, second guessing. But the fact that Vietnam had 0 death for the first 6 months despite 800 miles border with China is pretty clear indication that there wasn't a transparency issue that western media made it out to be. Keith was pretending he didn't know that. Covid isn't the first pandemic and won't be the last. China can and needs to be a significant part of the global effort to mitigate the next one starting with respecting mother nature more. But Keith was more interested in politics. Even then he glossed over the west's spectacular failure in Corvid management.
I was a FCC member 30 years ago and saw Keith Richberg as a moderator but have such a hostile attitude on this interview and I am not proud at all but interesting enough Eric Li is handling himself well with Keith’s questions. If anyone really have an open mind rather than a closed mind and pre-set hostile perspective about China and like to understand the current China and it’s people’s mind, which you may not agree with them but good to have a different perspective.
Hong Kong university should do something from now on, terminate his position as a so call professor and send him back to US of the A to do street cleaning, that what he is qualified to do,
The only way it can survive is if they go back to total isolation from the rest of the world like when Mao, and Stalin ruled. But the floodgates are open now. It is not gonna be very difficult to do that again.
Keith asked these provocative questions is just to give the room for Eric to debate. The way he asked can be improved. Agree and disagree, this is a real discussion. If all parties have the same agreement, then there is no need to discuss. Great interview! Eric is so intelligent👍
@Will Parsons Ha, whataboutism, a fallacy, that Eric Li has mastered ever so "eloquently"! It just so happens there is a synonymous Chinese metaphor "Stinky Bug Argument" (臭蟲論), coined by Lu Xun, a leading figure in modern Chinese literature, in 1933 「凡中国所有的，外国也都有。外国人说中国多臭虫，但西洋也有臭虫。」
Eric Li should not say "cut us some slack". In the current context that phrase is apologetic. He doesn't need to be, and for that matter nor does the CPC. In hindsight it is clear that 89-64 was a "color revolution" defeated. So was the HK protests in 2019.
I think he was trying to be polite. But Keith is just well... repeating his lines over and over and asking the same question over and over slightly differently hoping that would wear down Eric or trip Eric up.
Mr Keith Richburg needs to empty his mind so that he can have any meaningful conversation about China and CPC with other experts. He already hase all these ingrained western narratives about China, it's hard to watch. He asked why Pew Research shows low positive view on China among western countries, if he's smart enough, he should know the answer himself. The US just approved $300 mil. fund to solely focused on saying bad things about China, to drive a wedge between China and other countries, and sabotage the one belt one road initiative. Most of major western media such as BBC, CNN, NY Times, Washington Post, not only focused on only reporting negative news about China, they also exaggerate, and a lot of times, spread pure lies about China. It's all these propoganda against China that has caused China's image to plummet among western citizens. Majority of the western people who actually visited China all reported that China's nothing like what they've read, heard, watched about China in the west. If Pew research actually polled people in Asia and Africa, they will get a much better picture because they are slightly less influenced by the narratives from the western media. Western citizens think they have freedom of speech, free press, but they just don't know they're brainwashed by the narratives the MSM presented to them every single day, only the smart ones understand the real situation. People in China are well informed about the events happening in this world, 100-200 mil Chinese nationals travelled to other countries, and then returned home. If China's that bad, these folks won't return home.
@@Goodfellow1234567 you are absolutely right. I noticed the negativity in the news reporting by cnn, bbc even before the pandemic. This got worse starting from Obama's time till Trump. Because Trump was more straight forward, he let the cat out of the bag, that USA is going to use all kinds of issues, even lies to continue to smear China. I am not from China, but i can see through the hypocrisy.
You are the best! I have forwarded your speeches and debates to my circle of friends. We need more people like you to set US people’s perception of China. Joyce Sin
"How do you prove that you are the legitimate government of China?"
When over 90% of the 1.4 billion ppl say so, that's a pretty good indicator. How many "democratic" countries can say that?
What "democratic" countries?
The west is authoritarian as hell. A communist or a revolutionary would never be allowed to lead a mass movement here, they have jailed, smeared and even killed people on the radical left who threatened to upset the political order. Fred Hampton and Malcolm X are but the most famous examples.
Genocide in Tibet makes Chinese government equal to Nazi Germany and Soviet Union. Worst filth on this planet. 🤮
@@slawekwojtowicz Please don't show your ignorance here.
Tibet was still a serf era before the CCP liberated Tibet. If there was genocide, it was also done by the Dalai Lama's religious government.
You can google what is "human skin tangkas" first.
@@debralegorreta1375 he means preudo-democratic
I understand why he is frustrated in defending China, it's like a kid who got 100 percent in exams and yet kept been asked by another kid who used to get high marks instead of asking HOW he got the high marks, all the questions are about whether he cheated, whether his mom helped him, whether he bribed teacher to get the mark. IT IS INSULTING. I want to see one day China does it to the US.
Like your analogy 👍
very vivid comparison. i saw that guys 5 years ago on youtube i thought he were stupid and he is still stupid.
We don't want to see China do the same to the USA. The USA has
dumbed-down the discourse so much, to such a base level, a step away from gutter-talk.
The enlightened views Eric is presenting here stand a couple levels above for sure.
I love and analogy and will have to use it in the Future, so true and to the point. That was the entire conversation.
@Wick not sure how this is any kind of rebuttal to what eric is saying.
Basically the Prof is saying, why are you not like us? When will you be like us? They just cannot comprehend a system that is not like theirs. So much education, but so little knowledge
He’s a journalist. Don’t think he’s a full professor. Don’t give him so much credit.
What professor? He's just your typical western, arrogant, holier than thou, show off brainwashed journo.
@@Mommy10417 He is a Prof? Must
Mind i know where he teaches?
@@fannyalbi9040 Per Wikipedia and other websites. Keith Richburg is an American journalist and former foreign correspondent who spent more than 30 years working for The Washington Post. He is currently director of the Journalism and Media Studies Centre of the University of Hong Kong.[
How I wish to see another interview where Eric Li will ask the questions and Keith will answer.
Great suggestion Ben - you know that will never happen.
what Keith said just make me feel more disappointed and depressed about the whole west world, and I really don't know what kind of future these guys are leading/pushing us to.
As long both sides have regular citizens talking to each other all will be fine...
They have a christian view of the world, and they’re butting heads with a confucian view of how a state should be governed, which is based on harmony, good governance, hierarchical structure of society, etc. the west can definitely emulate china’s government, but they’ll just have to stop thinking like christians.
Eric Li is one of China eminent thinkers. He speaks cogently on the topics & is worth listening to. Forever looking young is Eric Li. Jia you Eric Li.
Eric is being too polite to the smart mouth moderator, he should have shut him up quick and hard for his hypocrisy. It's the same set of propaganda questions, what a waste of time.
I thought the guy was pretty OK. Not the usual Chyyna bad stuff
@@asdf3568 it was a more insidious form of China bad
@@asdf3568 the moderator was definitely bias and Eric was cool
A waste of time indeed. Also a waste of my Internet credits watching this 2 crappie moderators with no substance in their questions. No wonder there's so many dumb and ignorant people out there in the West.
I really admire Eric's restraint, another mark of the excellence of Chinese culture and upbringing
I just love how intelligently provocative Eric's counter-arguments are.
all politicians in all countries push covID
Yes. I esp like the part when he said the US is only talking about racial issues more than 100 years after the proclamation of emancipation
@@brainwashington1332 Can't agree more
Yeah very well trained in debates. My eyes are open.
@@yqisq6966 You are probably correct, but one has to have knowledge and the know the both the positives and negatives of your argument. That’s what Eric Li has. He’s also very insightful which I really appreciate.
Eric’s responses and comments are so convincing and inspiring that I am literally taking notes! Never done that to a TH-cam video outside of school work 😂.
Thank you Eric. We need more people like him who speaks with reason, logic , common sense and with facts.
Amazing lot of learning about Chinese 1 party system.
Western ask questions for the sake of argument rather to understand or learn from others success.
I think this is the main reason of the western decline.
asking legitimate tough questions is part of the improvement process. If you can't handle tough questions you will never improve to your potential
There’s something to this idea. The West conducts political discourse by arguing from one side. Interest groups fight their corner. So solutions to problems are either surrender, compromise or gridlock.
Political discourse in China is the monopoly of the CCP and conducted through dialectical materialism, not through interest groups. Solutions can be holistic, addressing root causes.
@@brucelee4066 Except, asking tough questions to argue for the sake of argument without genuine intent to improve and learn through asking those tough questions, but only for showmanship and one-upsmanship, which are the Western reality, will only waste your life away without ever allowing you to improve at all!
what do you want to learn from a totalitarien system? just open your history books, dumbass
@@brucelee4066 yes, they the western world, asked. But they don't learn from China's answers until China gets fed up
Now I understand why the HK riots happened. With professors like Keith no wonder.
you are ignorant
@@0wninguplz And you dear are wilfully ignorant if you cannot what Keith is doing here.
@@kabiraningangom1248 what? cannot what? I am so confused
@@0wninguplz typo mistake. The word is "understand".
this guy is pitiful at least. so ignorant and arrongant at the same time. His intelletual level as a professor is a joke.
This due keeps asking why other countries (most western countries) are not happy with China. It is not China's job to make other country's people happy. If you don't like China, don't any business with China, as simple as that.
Agreed!
Keith should check how many disinformation and fear mongering on China their media has done before he shamelessly ask this question.
Actually many Asian countries are not happy with China and we can't just not do business with China and escape the CCP's expansionism. The CCP's sea claims have been refuted by the UN but they keep trying to grab at most of SE Asia, India, Bhutan, Japan, Taiwan etc. I am pretty sure none of these are Western countries but being near to China we are more aware of how expansionist the CCP is now than Western countries.
I suppose the black should make the white happy following the black man’s logic
The press especially in the West suppresses all positive news about China, and are the same time exaggerates the negative.Its no wonder their people have negative opinion about China.
Eric is such a gentleman of wisdom and elegance. His patience is beyond remarks in the face of annoying and provoking questions after questions from Keith who cannot listen nor think. Keith represents the arrogance of the west that's already in the blood, he couldn't even noticed it. But Eric is so brilliant in answering every single one of the provoking and annoying questions providing details and logic and patience. Bravo, Eric!
Shut up
I agree! This Keith needs to be more self-reflective! Eric identified the basic problem, which is that it’s hard to see thr world from another society’s perspective when you own society is so arrogant.
"The best way for you to convince the Chinese to have elections, is to make yours work!"
It is working. That's how democracy works STUPID. Everyone is given a voice and an opinion about which political party best reflects their own opinions and would then governed for a determined number of years before the next election. The people can either elect the same party members again or if dissatisfied, choose a different political party. But you decide on what's best for you NOT what's forced on you without any of your input. Can you understand that STUPID?
I guessed you guys really miss your dynasties with its King and eunuchs, and decided to accept one with a committee decision making process which still has to be decided by one person. What a sad predicament...
Well said, and at the moment, the democracy around the world is not very convincing indeed. 🥱🥱🥱
@@logicalthoughts "If voting made any difference, they wouldn't let us do it" - Mark Twain. Man, that Mark Twain must be really STUPID, huh?
"Voting is meaningless, America was bought and sold a long time ago" - George Carlin. Man, another STUPID guy, huh?
@@logicalthoughts Since you seem to like calling people STUPID a lot, a quick reminder, no matter how smart and well-thought-out your opinions are, in your ideal system it'll only take one STUPID like me to cancel your vote lol.
Sad, looks like you're still getting stuff forced on you by a bunch of STUPIDs had they got you outnumbered.
@@logicalthoughts Thats why we (Switzerland) or Germany can choose and re-vote if our Government does something what turns badly for us etc....
Dr Eric Xu Li brilliant enlightenment of the TRUTH, as always
he is sharp and coherent
This Host is very unprofessional and reduced to blaming China for this and that. It's Not an interview but more sounded like bashing without knowing the facts.
It is always like that. It never changes, the same old aggressiveness and never stop bashing. It has very strong psychological backings of such tactic: defeat your opponent with harsh negativity attacks or belittle them until they collapse from inside.
Hong Kong would be making a grave mistake, be a fool, if she does not deport this black man, asap.
@@fredtan1506 It's more likely that this fool is kept by UHK to demonstrate the futile efforts of the west to continue to undermine and demonize China. No verifiable fact can change an idiot that is biased and lack the intelligence and realization to be open-minded to consider any notion outside of his prejudice. Completely laughable that this is harbored by a black American who should be an expert on bias, especially against his skin color.
I think the host is a foil that makes Eric 's arguments stand out. Not a bad thing.
He has a cunning smile do.
Thanks Eric! You speak out on behalf of all Chinese people! 🇨🇳👍
Eric is the realist, Prof Keith is the idealist....reality creates results, ideas create fantasies. Agree with Eric that we need "result based" not "procedure based" democracy and leadership.
Idealist? 7 billion people, a few continents, almost 200 countries, equal numbers of cultures.
It is about society evolving itself via self reflection and appraisal and learning.
@@joeawkkkkkkkkkkkkk estou louco para recusar todos os benefícios das democracias liberais e superar essa porcaria.
The level of ignorance shown by the interviewer is appalling.
The amount of times the guest speaker was interrupted is enough to make a police interrogator blush.
Eric Li was treated as neither a guest nor a speaker in this video.
Keith’s communication problem is he listens to reply he doesn’t listen to understand. Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones . Mr LI, is brilliant as usual.
@Shareef, You're exactly right. Mr Keith Richburg needs to empty his mind so that he can have any meaningful conversation about China and CPC with other experts. He already has all these ingrained western narratives about China, it's hard to watch. He asked why Pew Research shows low positive view on China among western countries, if he's smart enough, he should know the answer himself. The US just approved $300 mil. fund to solely focused on saying bad things about China, to drive a wedge between China and other countries, and sabotage the one belt one road initiative. Most of major western media such as BBC, CNN, NY Times, Washington Post, not only focused on only reporting negative news about China, they also exaggerate, and a lot of times, spread pure lies about China. It's all these propoganda against China that has caused China's image to plummet among western citizens. Majority of the western people who actually visited China all reported that China's nothing like what they've read, heard, watched about China in the west. If Pew research actually polled people in Asia and Africa, they will get a much better picture because they are slightly less influenced by the narratives from the western media. Western citizens think they have freedom of speech, free press, but they just don't know they're brainwashed by the narratives the MSM presented to them every single day, only the smart ones understand the real situation. People in China are well informed about the events happening in this world, 100-200 mil Chinese nationals travelled to other countries, and then returned home. If China's that bad, these folks won't return home. It's true Chinese media is censored, but they don't demonize US like the way US demonizes China every single day (with lies). China doesn't spend $300 mil. to focus on just badmouthing US (like US doing it to China), China doesn't go to other countries to force them not to do business with US (US is guilty of this), China doesn't force them to cancel an existing Contract with US, or face consequences (US is again guilty of this).
@@Goodfellow1234567 Spot on! Thanks for sharing. The west MSM has done a superb job of fabricating stories and igniting hatred toward China.
@@Goodfellow1234567 Absolutely right you hit the nail on the head.
Keith has selective hearing. China is a meritocracy society. Yes only the best and brightest can join the party to improve their career.
The members of China's leadership are all selected by thousands of people, and they are as competent as professional brokers in a company.
Unlike the Western democratic system, where good luck can select outstanding talents, but most of the selected are mediocrities and clowns. Otherwise, do you think China's rapid development in the past 40 years came from?
I hope that people in the West can learn more about it, or that all countries or governments in the West do not want people in their own country to know the true facts, so that they will continue to discredit China and make the people hate China unintentionally, in order to achieve their incompetent governance. Forgotten in the crowd.
This is the second time I've seen this moderator get crushed by Eric. I see Keith as part of the problem in HK, I believe he's professor their. He's asking bad faith questions to get us to hate China and HK pays him to teach their kids.
Me, too, it's my second time to see this moron.
Li is clearly a CCP sponsored advocate for them, nothing more, simply because in his argument CCP is right in every way and is perfect, which is clearly a strong bias and physically impossible!
@@qm3384 Li never said CCP is perfect if you listen carefully.
@@voicefrompeople155 Kevin is just like Keith!
South Africa needs professor like Keith. A place where indigenous folks were second class citizens in 20th century.
Keith's talks as an interviewer make Eric even more convincing and brilliant.
“Self criticism is only useful when it’s relevant”👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
As a Chinese college student who was part of 1989 Tiananmen protest, I support Xi Jinping as long term president of China. If Xi was president in 1990s, I would not have left China. Now that I have become a n American citizen, I am happy for Chinese to have such down to earth person to be the president of China.
salute to you for your honest
I doubt your being a us citizen. if u were, u would all wish yr Chinese comrades to live the prosperity now u live in USA. I was in USA for only 3 years (1989 - 1991 ) n upon coming home I could afford a house in my home country. U either bulshit us or u fake yr identity. Shame on u.
When I was a kid I saw police/soldier was beaten to death and hang under bridge. And a dead body of soldier floating on river right in front of my home when the so called TianAnMen square “Massacre”happened.
@@rusdayatiidrus5401 你是谁means nothing to me. 我是美国公民，你去嫉妒吧。my mother still lives in China and I thank Xi Jinping for giving her pension and health care that I don’t have to worry about her.
@@wodemoshou thank you for telling the truth
Thank you for your insight Eric. I've learned something by listening. I hope more of us in the west can keep an open mind. One human family ❤ We can all learn from each others successes.
Admire Eric’s speech and did a good job in standing up to all the muds and skepticism and even smear thrown onto China. Support him!!!
yes, if he didn't he would face the torture chamber
@@wtzan will you face torture chamber? how many torture chamber in your brain?
Oh no, not that guy again, rude interviewer.
Eric Li is great to listen to.
I'm here for Li, not for that rude fellow!
Me too too
it really is that guy again OMG...
Just screw him !
Keith is playing the devil's advocate. Because of his questions, Eric has a chance to display his sharpness and intelligence
The most prolific China english speaker ever..Fantastic job Eric. Hope this session will be viewed worldwide !
Thanks Eric for having the facts to counter the hypocrisy of the FCC. The stupid questions are starting to get tiresome even for us living in the West.
Thanks for bringing us this Eric Li discussion; even if some of the questions were petty and specious, but were easy work for Eric nonetheless!
Every single question is like trap, but Eric managed it well.
That's their BBC-patented style and tactics -- tricking the interviewees every step of the way, wanting to extract some wordings and then twisting them into their own narratives, to fit their agenda.
@@lexneuron LOL impossible to trap Eric with tricky questions
Eric is da man . He knows Keith tricks well as he debated him b4.
Keith the Black American guy talking about Human Rights? Self criticism? Lmao is this a joke ? He laughs at his own digs incredulously 🤡
That's how people always treat him, and they get owned every time
Eric has become really fed-up of late. No longer that urbane, sharp yet sanguine dapper gentleman he was a few years ago. He has clearly had enough of Western arrogance and bullying. I kind of miss the younger Eric but I so get where he is coming from. Wolf Warrior indeed!!!! And I like it.
Well Eric has already crossed the 50 year mark (despite still looking rather young for his age), so I get that he's no longer patient with the bullshxt.
Well he has f-you money
Sorry their questions are very biased and not intelligent. Firstly, the Chinese doctors did warn about his serious the Covid was by publishing their research in jan 2020 at the Lancet. No one really paid any attention. In terms of trade, who started to ban Huawei in 2018? Who split on their biggest client to be on good side of Trump?
You're exactly right. Mr Keith Richburg needs to empty his mind so that he can have any meaningful conversation about China and CPC with other experts. He already has all these ingrained western narratives about China, it's hard to watch. He asked why Pew Research shows low positive view on China among western countries, if he's smart enough, he should know the answer himself. The US just approved $300 mil. fund to solely focused on saying bad things about China, to drive a wedge between China and other countries, and sabotage the one belt one road initiative. Most of major western media such as BBC, CNN, NY Times, Washington Post, not only focused on only reporting negative news about China, they also exaggerate, and a lot of times, spread pure lies about China. It's all these propoganda against China that has caused China's image to plummet among western citizens. Majority of the western people who actually visited China all reported that China's nothing like what they've read, heard, watched about China in the west. If Pew research actually polled people in Asia and Africa, they will get a much better picture because they are slightly less influenced by the narratives from the western media. Western citizens think they have freedom of speech, free press, but they just don't know they're brainwashed by the narratives the MSM presented to them every single day, only the smart ones understand the real situation. People in China are well informed about the events happening in this world, 100-200 mil Chinese nationals travelled to other countries, and then returned home. If China's that bad, these folks won't return home. It's true Chinese media is censored, but they don't demonize US like the way US demonizes China every single day (with lies). China doesn't spend $300 mil. to focus on just badmouthing US (like US doing it to China), China doesn't go to other countries to force them not to do business with US (US is guilty of this), China doesn't force them to cancel an existing Contract with US, or face consequences (US is again guilty of this).
@@Goodfellow1234567 The western news and media would never report this above writing
Nailed it, , congrats Eric Li, 👍
If only our diplomats are as eloquent as Mr Eric Li when being interviewed by BBC and CNN. Mr Li's arguments hold water and are strong as hell!
I really appreciate hearing Eric’s point of view. I think his explaining China’s perspective is enlightening and should be heard by as many Americans and westerners as possible. Fostering understanding of each other (west and east, China and US) is vital to a future that should be characterized by peaceful coexistence and cooperation, not by ratcheting up of bellicose rhetoric and confrontation. These lively discussions, even the adversarial questions from the interviewer, are what can lead to more constructive exchanges of ideas that restore a more positive direction between great nations, going forward. Disengagement and decoupling is NOT the way to go. I hope Eric and similar brilliant thinkers from China will be heard more in the future.
But that is the problem, the western media/politicians do not want to show this kind of perspective to the west. Because it will paint the west in a very bad light. They will lie, belittle, tell half-truths, just to provide the narrative that the west is better. A simple documentary of PBS regarding poverty alleviation got cancelled, just because they paint China in a too positive perspective compared to all the social problems in the US...
@@fawaka6664 Agreed it’s a problem. What it will take is bold leadership. I am old enough to remember when Egypt and Israel were mortal enemies in the 1970’s, and then Egypt’s Anwar Sadat offered to come to Israel to thaw the ice and negotiate a peaceful coexistence. With Jimmy Carter’s help, it resulted in peace accords and Egypt recognizing Israel and its right to exist. Similar analogy would be Kissinger’s and Nixon’s trips to China in early 1970’s. I’m also old enough to remember that, and how America feared China, calling it “Red China” prior to Nixon’s visit and opening up. Now, it will take a summit between Biden and Xi, reaching agreement to take down the temperature between the countries and foster further dialogue. Maybe that will happen at the G20 this fall. Hope so. If it happens, then perhaps the media and other politicians will begin to take a less hostile, if not a friendlier tone, toward China. If it doesn’t happen, then the problems continue until there is a real crisis. Let’s hope it’s the former, which would be in the enlightened self-interest of both.
@@KGold53 LOL...adding to your point regarding being old enough..:D :D
I was not so old but to understand the world completely in the 70's, but I was aware of this in the 80's...:)
Unfortunately, those times are very different compared to the current situation. At the moment the US is about to lose its nr 1 position regarding economic might. The west is trying to destabilize or hinder the growth of China.
From an ideological point of view, plus with the internal problems the US has, having China as an alternative model sets dangerous precedence...
I also do hope that cool heads will prevail and not come in any dangerous situations.
Unless of course we get invaded by aliens..:D :D
People outside of China can watch, participate in this kind of discussions but can mainland Chinese have same opportunity and rights? Can this video be uploaded into major Chinese social sites like Bilibili, Weibo with full unedited version? I think there is no common online platform or medium for common Mainland Chinese citizens to have a frank interaction with peoples outside of China. Only a handful of Mainland Chinese use VPN and the Chinese social media is highly censored and restricted.
@@nup_pun As you say...
I have the utmost respect for Eric. And Keith is exactly what's wrong with the west?
@ea s He is a black American, not an African.
Totally agreed on Keith. He is not listening and just wanna put forward his own bias view.
Eric has handled those provocative questions wisely, eloquently and factually. Well done, Eric.
@@Aramsa-Khan no he didn't he lost a step or two. Many of the point's he made in his infamous ted talk he had to reverse and equate the change to a pendulum as an uncontrollable force . He side stepped answering questions than responding directly to what was asked. He was highly defensive instead of eloquently explaining.
@@Mattrsx Anyone would have to be a bit defensive if confronted with allegation that is not true. To me, I score him 80 out of 100 in his performance.
Love Eric Li. Such an intelligent, handsome, charismatic and eloquent debater.
That's my sentiment exactly about this Keith. Easy to spot one whenever they open their mouth on criticizing China on human rights and democracy.
Eric is very well-spoken and he makes excellent points that need to be heard. Eric’s ancestors must be very proud of him. I’m grateful to learn more through his presentations.
Yes 🙌 Frank. Especially for me, third generation overseas Chinese, haven’t even set foot on Chinese soil and knows very little about it. Eric gives a very enlightening perspective! 👍👍🙏🙏
@@emkoh2746Would love to have you back to China on a short trip. Meanwhile, there are endless video footages of China now and before pandemics even started on TH-cam, especially from Indian North American and European vloggers.
The world needs to hear Eric Li. He’s brilliant!
But it might not help if you have a closed mind.
Very sharp questions and well handled interview. Well done Eric, we want more of you.
Well done Eric! So tiring to hearing these questions again and again. Full of unfair assumptions and traps.
I see so many fail at answering the usual tough questions, but everytime Eric delivers! Great analysis, i have honestly shifted a lot of views and predispositions. Most of it came from pandemic and the 2016 election, brexit etc. But also these informative talks honestly
Love Eric to share the perspective from China people. He presented a coherant argument on how China is being run, and how this model is bringing success.
If only Keith can open his mind and digging deeper into Eric's chain of argument, we may learn even more from him on the mindset of the Chinese government or Chinese people.
Keith being a journalist is so closed mind and lopsided in his view alarms me how much we can trust media to present facts and not individual opinions of a journalist.
Dr Li is briliant as always. Comment from Pakistan
Thank you, bro. CN and Pak are good friends and China is nowhere near what the western media report.
Dr. Li was an ophthalmologist, not a specialist in infectious disease, and he was not arrested, he was only warned by the police not to transfer messages that are not proved. At least 7 people were warned at that period according to Chinese law.
Actually, he only sent a message like "SARS is coming again, take care..." (we all know it's not SARS) to his doctor classmates, and one of his classmates took a snapshot of his message and sent it to her mother, and her mother sent this picture to many groups of old people and made a large number of people panic about it, many of them left Wuhan and transferred the Coronavirus to other cities.
And there was already a chief doctor from the Infectious disease department in one hospital in Wuhan, who submit the condition to CCD days ago, which follows the SOP built after SARS, much earlier than Dr. Li. A team of specialists was already built at that time, this team went to Wuhan to investigate the situation twice, and decided to lock down Wuhan at the second visit.
But Rumors always go faster than truth, especially when the superpower country supports the rumors.
@@terry1708
Superpower like to play we cheat, we steal, we lie!
Li is clearly a CCP sponsored advocate for them, nothing more, simply because in his argument CCP is right in every way and is perfect, which is clearly a strong bias and physically impossible!
Some jbiden bot copy paste bot keep trolling around!
Great discussions. Wish the people who asked questions did not have their own answers. Isn't it waste of time if you think you know the answers before you ask questions? Thanks Eric for providing facts and genuine thoughts. I too wish all kinds of systems can work for different people at different places, like what nature intends to be.
It’s a platform to highlight Keith, the new president of FCCHK!!! What an effective use of the intellect and popularity of Eric!!!
This Moderator protecting his job, and also suffering from Stockholm syndrome
See the democracy in Malaysia, my own country, the people now suffer a lot because of incapable political leaders, they are like frogs jumping from one party to another. So, democracies are in decaying all over the world, most of the democratic countries are control by a group of Elites and most of them are very selfish.....poli (many), tis (suckers).
It’s fake democracy. The country is owned by a group plutocrats which makes up less than 1% of the country’s population.
You said it. I'm with you
IKR just like u.s.a they only support those who is in their interest and bomb those who are not in their interest
I too from Malaysia l agree with you
In Malaysia it's always a capitalism with the skin of democracy that inherited from British. For China also believe in democracy but in communism way, not capitalism way
This is why China's democracy in communism way is so successful.
Mr Li, just the greatest, China stands up strong for its people.
I love all Eric Li 's speech and wise discussion. Have learned a lot from him.
Why not ask the question : " Can the US democracy stay for another one hundred years ?"
What democracy? The US is an Oligarch.
No one need to ask that, USA is falling apart as we speak. USA will dissolve into several countries as it is heading on the same path of the SOVIET UNION
The USA system was born from freeing the European wealth immigrants from Tax obligations from the monarch in Europe. China rose from freeing workers and peasant from control from imperial class and collaborative capitalists owners of resources
Well, we all know the answer to that...😂😂😂
Because most of the people in the world still living in the dream of U.S. is the correct one.
😂 Keith is from the council of foreign relations, they are part of the military industrial complex, no wonder he asks hostile questions.
You just knew about it ?!
Most of his questions reflect badly on the attitude of the Western media.
Its good to have those questions asked because they are the main criticisms that media write about china. Keith let eric answer without interrupting. The whole session was interesting because of the questions and eric answered them well.
They must have a poor recruitment programme because Eric buries him every time. Keith believes that being a liberal society is somehow more important than alleviating poverty and developing the country. The vast majority of Chinese people are happy with their government so why should they change just to satisfy people like him. His arrogance and ignorance is astonishing considering his many years living in that part of the world.
@@Wilburinsky lol keep believing that if it helps you sleep at night buddy. I’m sure Eric appreciates your concerns for his well being.
Keith has conveniently "forgotten" that most western corporate media in the US has mentioned that the Covid 19 virus was present in several US states in late November/early December 2019, Fort Detrick, and blood samples in Italy in Sept 2019. Also when Eric has corrected Keith in his answers, Keith nervously giggles away his foolishness in posing ridiculous questions.
@Cliff Lee this blackie isnt interested in hearing the china's side of story. In his mind, China is already the big bad evil n anything everything from China is always bad judging from his leading questions. Funny thing is this blackie chooses to ignore that china was infact the victim of falsehood perpetuated by the west but when the chinese fought back, they r labelled arrogant n thin-skinned !! Makes me wonder who is more evil of the lot
There is also this info
1. Known from way back: Fauci and others are in favor of gain of function. Many other top doctors think it's dangerous, insane.
2. Lab leaks occur and Obama bans all of it in 2014.
3. Fauci et al side step Obama's ban through Eco Health and HAND this over to Wuhan.
4. They get results. It's PUBLISHED.
ALL OF THIS IS PUBISHED AND CAN BE PROVEN.
5. Some lab workers get sick, but as we know, they don't get immediately sick right there in the lab. Some others elsewhere, near a market, get sick, just a few. It takes days. So: this is a strange pneumonia. Don't blame China. Lab leaks happen all the time, which is why Obama banned it GOF. But yes indeed, checking blood bank blood from way before Dec. 2019, there were covid ANTIBODIES in it. So whoever donated that blood had covid and got over it. Doctors in Lombardy recall some people with an odd pneumonia, but it was so few that they fluffed it off. How many others were asymptomatic? MOST people were asymptomatic!
Back to China.
6. A doctor or two speak out in a panic and get in trouble for making a panic.
7. Now more have it, NOW it is known. China puts genome up for all to see, says it's epidemic and closes down Hubei province where Wuhan is a city.
8. Too late. People from uninfected areas travel. Many had already traveled. Not all who traveled were Chinese. Consider how many people had it with no symptoms, which is THE problem here, and nobody knew about this part of it back then. You can have covid and not be sick at all. THAT is how it spreads so fast. People aren't sick at all, but they have covid, no symptoms - and it spreads. NOW this is known. Back then nobody knew anything.
Big up Eric I love how intelligently you bring accross your points and you have opened my eyes in many issues that were foggy to me.
We a learn bout tings likle by likle e man dem soon ka fool we again
I like how Keith keep asking the tough questions using western media tones and critics, it's important so the world can hear a different voice and start thinking
Totally agree with Eric Li on legitimacy issue. Why give someone legitimacy if he is incompetent? Result is better than talk.
I found it funny Keith keeps saying "fair enough" whenever Eric's answer hits the nail and then struggles to find another angle to attack.
That's better than saying "wow, I'm truly a fool" for asking rhetorical questions by attempting to twist the narrative.
Cause Keith is Jealous.
He asks good critical questions
I'm so ashamed seeing a black person humiliating himself on social media like this.why
because he has a thick skin
Money working. CCP can print money.
Nothing to do with his skin coloured, it is what is inside his head. Be proud of your own colour.
@@Jersey1225 YOU mean USA print money, Right?
@@voicefrompeople155 Both USA and PRC print money of the world , it causes inflation.
I am already old in age, if not, I would strive to go to China and meet them in person and greet them. I love China and the Chinese, and I defend them every day and night. Small, but I fulfill myself fighting culturally and ideologically in all senses and areas. China, a people of peace, friendly, polite, honest, kind, is an excellent people, I love and admire President Xi Jinping a lot, I know more or less his story from the videos on the internet. A great man! There is how I admire him, only God knows that. And our dear Eric, I love you too and I am your admirer, you are formidable. May God bless you more and more, because you are fighters and deserving of all successes, my congratulations. I believe China is in the Heart of God.
Nice! I simply feel satisfied and comfortable after watching this video. Eric's answers are precise and straight to the point, Keith is not on par with Eric, Eric is a much deeper thinker with a much brighter vision.
Somehow they like to question others about the wrongdoing ( in their perspective)... who give you the privilege to point to others. Look at yourself first before you speak!
Excellent! Very sharp questions, smart answers. Good on you Eric, we want more of you.
This discussion is great. Please do another discussion with title, "Can US democracy parties continue to bomb everybody else for another 100 years?"
I fully support your suggestion. Thanks for bringing this up
@Ryan Alex we didn’t bomb anyone for 40 years. We are more interested in building infrastructure and improve people’s lives. By the way how is the high speed rail between Sf and la coming along?
Title should be *Will the u.s.a democrazy keep on accusing, bombing middle east, killing the innocent, creating more virus for another 100 years??*
@Ryan Alex I guess that would be true if Florida is part of China.
@@MichelleSuiComedy hhhhh well said! such a pathetic coward.
Great respect for Eric Li. His videos are always very educational and make a lot of sense.
What a wonderful brilliant debate! Love Eric’s responses and I’ve got so excited to hear those arguments and giggles sometimes by his wise words! Admiring Eric!
Why not? CPC focus on solving problem and improves people’s lives. As long as CPC delivers, Chinese people will support the party.
You mean by harvesting organs ? Shooting students or releasing global pandemics?
@@macktheripper7454 When you saying garbage like harvesting organ(by a whole party), no one will argue with you, you know why?
China should be proud of you, Eric. If foreign academics and politicians have enough humility and willing, they can learn a lot from you.
Hodl my RENMINBI token (Ravencoin) kaw
cgtn should interview him but i never see it. Instead this wasteful interview
How can animals learn from human being ?
Keith insisted China self criticise on the cultural revolution; why the Seven Countries that invaded China not self criticise themselves?
What a hypocritical question!
Russia did that, it critique itself so hard it by crushing the older order and birthing the USSR.
What do invasions have to do with the crimes committed by the Chinese Communist Party against Chinese people?
@@kdegraa You are right, they were different. One was bad policy, the other was bad intention. I hope you know the difference.
Which one deserves more self criticism?
@@kdegraa its called Cause and Effect. If i grab you child and dragged its shoe from its feet and it fled into the road into an on coming car. Or it wandered in the forest for days, whatever happens to that child during that period until she gets back home is an Effect from shock and for survival. Got it , if not , reasoning power is damaged then you are suffering from, mental conditioning leads to cognitive Dissonance regarding China
Where did you get the information regarding china and its crimes. Friend country or foe of china ? Did you ask you self that question ?
Eric, you were great in handling the tough questions. You're intelligent and knowledgeable.
These 2 are intellectually on different levels. It’s like a phd talking to a high schooler. How did they get a high schooler teaching university students? HK youth are screwed.
hmm You question ,now prompts me to think, this prof looks Afo American ,was he deliberately asking the common propaganda narratives of the ruling elate for rebuttals ?
If so they both did a good job, and well plaid .
When a good quality leader appears, you’ll want to cling on to him, pray he’ll be in health to rule until his last breathe. When everything is running perfectly, you don’t want to risk with a replacement regulated by rules. God bless China via Xi Jinping.
Xi is pretty good and he was selected by a system. A system could select Xi, obviously another Xi could be found and raised.
true
Eric was brilliant and I am sure this guy Keith must had regretted interviewing him and had him answered every ridiculous biased questions and dismantling his distorted views. Good Job Eric !!
Keith is suppose to be a professor in HK university. How di HK university allow this kind of professor to teach the students with notable results in chaos that happenened in the past.
Hong Kong's youth is doomed.
one totally compromised educational institution in service of western hegemony
He should be fired!
Excellent speech 🎉🎉🎉Mr Lee is a hero
Eric is just excellent in articulating and make the audience see the points .
Basically the intsrviewer's questions drive towards to make audience believe that election system, western " plutocracy" is the only correct way of governance and care less on its citizen's well being ! Waste time session for Eric !
As an Asian, who's grown up in Europe/Germany, I very often have Diskussions about China/CPC with my German or European friends. Last time was just 2 days ago. I myself have never visiting Asia or China since 1979. But as a kid form a Vietnamese Mother and a Han Chinese Father, our family where very political. Also my German Godparents are very political people. But having Diskussion with Westerns are not an easy topic. Very oft it greated a cognitive dissonance among them. My Mindset is that of Mr. Eric Li.
You are not alone. The hypocrisy of the West is awakening the world. At least the non Western world
@@ayambo3281 The West is not a monolithic bloc. It's very dangerous to portray this as a kind of "clash of civilizations". Just as Asia is extremely diverse...
@@Invinoveritas85 BS
They are so arrogant for so long that they don't realise it anymore
@@Invinoveritas85 there are plenty of Europeans and Americans in Singapore. Most display the same atttidues especially when it comes to politics and discredit our views, believing that we are brainwashed and have nothing to learn. Eric Li hit the nail on the head where he said that liberal democracy has become a religion. And anything else is illiberal, or illegitimate.
The questions showed up how misinformed the person who asked them. Specially when it was about Covid-19. Bravo, great answers from Dr. Eric Li
I like Erik a lot, eventhough he's 'a bit' defensive when one tries to attack China in a subtle way. But he's brilliant, there is no doubt about that.......
For a long time, I am very much fed up with such questions from "westerners" who are self-righteous, arrogant and stereotypical. They always ask questions in a way that you did wrong first, so now explain it.
But anyway, Eric did a superb job---intellegent, eloquent, persuasive and patient enough to answer stupid questions full of krap.
31:30 We don’t want a system that you hold a vote, you don’t deliver, you’re still legitimate.
Exactly
The black man interviewer is being unreasonable. Li has given reasonable answers. The interview wants just to discredit China. What’s legitimate if it is only procedural and now found to be less functional? And he seems like insisting China must have the election in order to convince acceptance. Why? If you think it is good you go ahead and let those think differently have their freedom to choose. About the doctor being being not allowed to inform the west, I am of the opinion not many people really know what has transpired, including the interviewer. A large part was the work of the western media in blowing big. Then again the thing happened just within weeks, and China has been responsible enough to provide the’geno’ why such a fuss and nasty provocation? The chinese should be smart enough not to take the bait, for China is doing right and good why change? The west been on the wrong track because they just protest for protest seek, just imagine now in America roughly half are in opposition and they are doing the protest work just for protest seek. This is a good system? Before this you’re good but some things have changed and you are no more good. And still you want other to follow a mistake ? Very vicious indeed.
The true of the matter is no matter what China does, the western media will always find ways to discredit them. The doctor who sounded the alarm was in fact did interviewed and investigated by the local police so what.?! The Chinese government did later on acknowledged this doctor was correct and made a public statement about it. Several Wu Han local officials were fired as a result. That’s an effective and responsible government should do. Unlike my beloved country where millions ppl died and no officials being held in responsible for their poor handling of the pandemic.
@@larryholou No, the doctor was not correct. He said the virus was the return of SARS. But it was not SARS. So it was fair that he received a warning for spreading misinformation. The government only wanted to honor the doctor who died as a hero in the midst of the pandemic. Also Keith was just repeating the western lie that the doctor said it was SARS like. He said it was SARS which only caused panic in the public.
@@lipincheng Good to point out the actual detail uttered by Dr. LWL and the need to prevent panic when an unknown malady is beginning. L.L. is 99+% correct in his response, so thanks for that. More importantly, as in his country, my beloved country truly f'ed up, now with 610K deaths and still counting, idiot Trump and his minions are not rotting in jail, and Biden along with Blinken et al., keep siding with brain-dead Republicans (and many Dems) to demonize China.
@@moyclan4663 Whether China handled everything right in the early days is for the most part, second guessing. But the fact that Vietnam had 0 death for the first 6 months despite 800 miles border with China is pretty clear indication that there wasn't a transparency issue that western media made it out to be. Keith was pretending he didn't know that. Covid isn't the first pandemic and won't be the last. China can and needs to be a significant part of the global effort to mitigate the next one starting with respecting mother nature more. But Keith was more interested in politics. Even then he glossed over the west's spectacular failure in Corvid management.
Democracy doesn’t mean “the vote”. Keith needs to do some work before interviewing Eric.
I was a FCC member 30 years ago and saw Keith Richberg as a moderator but have such a hostile attitude on this interview and I am not proud at all but interesting enough Eric Li is handling himself well with Keith’s questions.
If anyone really have an open mind rather than a closed mind and pre-set hostile perspective about China and like to understand the current China and it’s people’s mind, which you may not agree with them but good to have a different perspective.
Yes! Yes! Yes! I was born in 1989 and I totally agree with what you said, Every word in your speech! And I LOVE China so much! We will protect China.
Will be great if China continues to develop stronger and still focus on improving the lives of people.
Hong Kong university should do something from now on, terminate his position as a so call professor and send him back to US of the A to do street cleaning, that what he is qualified to do,
He is the plain clothed spy from US military.how can he be a professor in Hong Kong
To that wolf warrior question, Eric is brilliant in his reply.
Fully Agree, Rambo-Like. This word is the fact. haha
Eric is right if your child is sick, 1st task is to identify the sickness without calling out “wolf”.
despite everything that is wrong with this format, I learn something every time I listen to Mr. Li.
Don't worry, there are western countries that agree with you when it comes to the US. Thank you Eric Li I think you have explained China very well.
The only way it can survive is if they go back to total isolation from the rest of the world like when Mao, and Stalin ruled. But the floodgates are open now. It is not gonna be very difficult to do that again.
Keith asked these provocative questions is just to give the room for Eric to debate. The way he asked can be improved. Agree and disagree, this is a real discussion. If all parties have the same agreement, then there is no need to discuss. Great interview! Eric is so intelligent👍
Self criticism is done only when relevant! Eric eloquently answered👍
like this sentence very much!
and who is to determine the relevance? Oh, it would be Dear President Xi!
depends on your view of killing innocent people
@Will Parsons Ha, whataboutism, a fallacy, that Eric Li has mastered ever so "eloquently"!
It just so happens there is a synonymous Chinese metaphor "Stinky Bug Argument" (臭蟲論), coined by Lu Xun, a leading figure in modern Chinese literature, in 1933 「凡中国所有的，外国也都有。外国人说中国多臭虫，但西洋也有臭虫。」
Eric Li should not say "cut us some slack". In the current context that phrase is apologetic. He doesn't need to be, and for that matter nor does the CPC. In hindsight it is clear that 89-64 was a "color revolution" defeated. So was the HK protests in 2019.
I think he was trying to be polite. But Keith is just well... repeating his lines over and over and asking the same question over and over slightly differently hoping that would wear down Eric or trip Eric up.
Even it's a color revolution, there are still some things to reflect. I agree that one day China should be able to look at these issues formally.
Eric Li is brilliant. The "professor" was rude and wasn't listening.
Well done Eric Li in answering the questions - always good to hear his counter arguments.
This guy about US addressing race problem is embarassing.
Mr Keith Richburg needs to empty his mind so that he can have any meaningful conversation about China and CPC with other experts. He already hase all these ingrained western narratives about China, it's hard to watch. He asked why Pew Research shows low positive view on China among western countries, if he's smart enough, he should know the answer himself. The US just approved $300 mil. fund to solely focused on saying bad things about China, to drive a wedge between China and other countries, and sabotage the one belt one road initiative. Most of major western media such as BBC, CNN, NY Times, Washington Post, not only focused on only reporting negative news about China, they also exaggerate, and a lot of times, spread pure lies about China. It's all these propoganda against China that has caused China's image to plummet among western citizens. Majority of the western people who actually visited China all reported that China's nothing like what they've read, heard, watched about China in the west. If Pew research actually polled people in Asia and Africa, they will get a much better picture because they are slightly less influenced by the narratives from the western media. Western citizens think they have freedom of speech, free press, but they just don't know they're brainwashed by the narratives the MSM presented to them every single day, only the smart ones understand the real situation. People in China are well informed about the events happening in this world, 100-200 mil Chinese nationals travelled to other countries, and then returned home. If China's that bad, these folks won't return home.
@@Goodfellow1234567 what you write is so true. The host is not into discourse. He is only here to badmouth China- nothing else.
@@Goodfellow1234567 bravo, you said it so much better than I can. Thanks
@@Goodfellow1234567 you are absolutely right. I noticed the negativity in the news reporting by cnn, bbc even before the pandemic. This got worse starting from Obama's time till Trump. Because Trump was more straight forward, he let the cat out of the bag, that USA is going to use all kinds of issues, even lies to continue to smear China. I am not from China, but i can see through the hypocrisy.
Mr. Keith is a brainwashed interviewer and anti China .
When this black man got bashed up by the American police, he will understand what country he is standing up for,
He is lucky to be born in this generation. 200 yrs ago, he would be sold at an auction in US or Europe. Then he wouldn't be so silly
Martin Luther King Jr would b ashamed of keith 😆
Agree. Keith is a black with white supremacy mindset, strange.
@@frankm4349 pretty sure he doesn't own a mirror
You are the best! I have forwarded your speeches and debates to my circle of friends. We need more people like you to set US people’s perception of China. Joyce Sin
👍 for Eric Li, I watched this interview today 12/24/23. The reality proves Eric's views are correct.