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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ธ.ค. 2021
- First: I am not getting a penny for this video. I just think that this machine deserves some attention because it is good.
I am making it because I like the machine and company behind it. I have visited them and they were very professional and friendly.
In 2018 I visited a few factory's. What you see on their youtube channels and website is quite different with what they really are. Some company's have enormous marketing departments and small production departments (that leads to fancy video's of mediocre machines) and some company's do not have any real marketing departments but sell on quality alone.
Quick sells machines on quality. Their factory is enormous and clean. From what I have seen in Jinan their focus is making nice machines.
See some photos from my visit? photos.app.goo.gl/ApHGRysigKP... - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
Thanks for the great and practical info!
Got one from them in 2011, good quality and good support.
This video was very useful for me. Thank you very much for your describe
You are welcome and thanks for your comment.
Great video, thank you so much for sharing Bro
Thanks for the visit!
Hey great video......I have a higher end 1530 blue elephant with a rotary tool changer and a side rotary along they y axis. I also went to china for my machine. I have had my machine for 5 years, so I also have a good look at the machine as well. Because of everything you stated in your video is exactly how I feel as well. Don't get me wrong I have had good luck with my machine but when you start to really push things is when you see the limitation of the machine. I also have the reducers installed on my servos. I am really sick of the the syntec controller and am ready to upgrade. I see you are as passionate about cnc's as well. The more I get in it the more I love it. Once again great video so much info in this vid!
Hello! I do not know them personally but from checking their site they have a very diverse range of product. So diverse that I think that they buy machines from other company's and rebrand them to their own brand. Can you visit them and see their factory? There are reall factory's in china but also a lot of resellers that only spend their time on marketing and sales. Not on machine quality.
Their site is not bad but if you are gonna spend 20k on a new machine, spend 2k to visit them, and a few other factories to get a good impression of the possibilities.
Looking forward to seeing your vid on the laser cutter
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Thanks for the information. Couldn't see the followup video on electronics of the CNC machine. Servo motors power on all the axis? PC based Controller? Etc.,
Hello! yeahhh, I promised to make that video. Thing is the company is getting way to much orders and it is a bit of a juggle to keep everything going (and fun ;) I should make more time for this. What do you want to know?
The machine is controlled with Eding CNC, that is a user friendly pc based controller that I can work with. It has a nice interface that looks professional. The servo's are controlled with step and direction signals. That is not the nicest way but is it reliable and simple to work with. The servo's are Yaskawa but there are loads of servo's that are suited (Leadshine, Delta, yaskawa etc).
Everything else is just a bunch of inputs (homing switches, toolprobe, infrared screen, pressure sensor, toolholder ATC signals) that are wired to Eding CNC and the software monitors this. Then a few outputs: Dusthood up and down, toolrelease, pneumatic toolrack and that is about it.
Er waren 299 abonnees, ik dacht ik maak het 300 van!! 😅
Lekker bezig!!
Je hebt zeker lage shipping kosten betaald?? Nu zijn ze ongelofelijk hoog!!
Hoi! Thanks voor nummer 300 :D de prijs is exclusief shipping maar dat viel wel mee. Een 40 voet container met 2 machines voor 3k. Nu is het helaas wel anders maar dat komt wel weer goed. Geduld hoop ik maar.
Hi Samoso, very interesting video. I could not understand what you use to program this machine. What do you use to design ?
Hello.
The controller in the machine is Eding CNC. A dutch company that is good in easy to use CNC controllers. For making the drawings and writing the g-code we use V carve pro. A easy to use piece of software that is unbeaten in functionality and options. It looks basic because it is 2d but when used by a skilled programmer so much faster than 3d drawing.
@@ontwerpopmaatpuntcom Thx for the reply. Is this Quick UA481 comparable to an AVID CNC machine ? What is the price for the Quick UA481setup you have ?
Hello!
I have visited 6 factory's in China and visit all the machine fairs in Europe (pre COVID). No serious CNC machine is made with aluminum extrusion profiles. It is to flexible compared to steel structures. An basic machine from quick CNC will set you back about 8000 euro, that is including vacuümpump and a complete finished machine that will weigh about 1000kg. This is without ATC but with a normal spindle.
The ua481 is about 30k € but it depends on size and setup.
I am doing an installation of this machine in the Netherlands, exactly the same setup as I have in the video and you should consider that that costs about 5k€.
Don't forget shipping! That is quite expensive at the moment and I always ship "Fob" with a local dutch shipping agent.
Hi asamoso, I'm looking at getting an Omni machine. It sounds like they are good machines and reasonably priced.
Did you arrange your own shipping?
Is it possible to spec your machine with sinumeric/fanuc or similar from the get go?
Yes, I think they also work with siemens. But not 100% sure. Syntec is nice if you know how it works. I do not know so I install eding. Also for the people that work for me: they know eding cnc so it is a short learning curve.
What do you think about Bcamcnc from China ? I’m about to buy machines from them. I’ve checked blueelephant aswell
I do not know them personally. It has been a while since I visited China. What type of cnc are you looking for?
Mooie machine !
Hoe doe je dat, die delen die vast blijven zitten maar toch makkelijk eruit te drukken zijn ?
Zelf gebruik ik vaak tabs van een paar mm, die ik later weg frees/schuur om te voorkomen dat delen beginnen te bewegen als ze bijna los gefreesd zijn.
En als je plaat bijv 20mm is, frees je dan ook exact 20mm diep ?
Hoi! Wij frezen nooit met tabs. Vooral snel frezen met hoge chipload zorgt voor een mooi eindresultaat
@@ontwerpopmaatpuntcom frees je er niet volledig door dan ?
Als ik 20mm plaat frees, dan frees ik er vaak door met 20.2mm ofzo om zeker te zijn dat de delen die weg moeten ook echt los gaan.
Als ik 20mm diep door een 20mm plaat ga blijft het er vaak wel een beetje vast in zitten, maar dan heb ik vaak wel iets meer na-werk.
@@mr.Bruutt vaak bij plaat 20 frezen wij 20.3 diep. Met tabs is alleen maar meer nabewerken. Wat voor cnc heb je? Kom anders een keer kijken
Hi Samoza we are looking at a quick uc 2100 x 3050 with boring head with loading and of loading is there much to putting the cnc router together
We also look at OSETMAC same spec do you no anything about them
We just got our New cnc router from quick cnc 2 weeks ago. I Will put the delivery video online somewhere next week. It is only about pulling it from the shipping container and lifting it into the workshop and mounting the bridge. It is not operational yet. At the moment we are working on projects for clients but the video wil give you a good view on how the unloading process works for us
@@ontwerpopmaatpuntcom supper thanks is this your second machine form them . Are the reliable machine
@@brianmoore1655 yes they are. But be aware: no real service from a country half way around the world. Something wrong? Fix it yourself. Know how your machine works and learn how to fix it. My first quick cnc router 5 years old and works every day. There are weeks that I earn 20% of the purchase price of the machine with it. Great investment if you are an eager to learn engineer. But the road to success with a cnc is long. It has taken me 6 machines, from cheap and small to big and expensive to learn what I need to know. Great work with good money but certainly not for everybody. You need to be a machine nerd ;)
@@ontwerpopmaatpuntcom super thanks for sharing your knowledge
Ik kijk al uit naar je volgende video ivm de controller
Hoi! Daar ga ik even de tijd voor nemen. Eigenlijk is het heel simpel. Tot je alles aangesloten hebt en dan heb je 50 draden lopen. Oftewel, even goede schets maken en dan de uitleg.
I appreciate the efforts you have done for this video.
Thanks brother.
May Allah bless you
Machinery is my hobby. Doing production runs is my job and company. Tinkering on machines and improve them is my hobby and passion. Nothing is better than improving efficiency of a machine or production proces. Thanks for your message!
Very Nice and informatative video. i am router bits supplier in canada. can you tell me how long your compression bits last?
i am orginally from india. i like your chanel name Smaosa😃😃
Hello. We do not use comprrssion bits much. We normale use 2 flute down cutter for everything like solid wood, multiplex, mdf etc. We only use compression bits for hpl coated mdf/plywood and melamine sheet. I am not quite sure how long they last. A normal 8mm 2 flute negatieve cutter can cut about 1000 meter of 20mm oakwood in one go.
That is at 7500mm/minute.
And yes, our name is based on the indian Samosa. We were founded in Southwest Afrika, making triangular playgrounds. A samosa was eten much there and is also triangular
@@ontwerpopmaatpuntcom thanks for quick reply.
Thank you for sharing. I am in the process of purchasing a 4 axis (approx 1500x3000x300mm) CNC router with ATC from the Jinan area, but have not decided which brand to chose. I have received quotes from Blue Elephant, QuickCNC, StyleCNC and ForsunCNC. The prices are roughly in the same area (+/- $3000) I have not been in China on factory Visits like you nor seen Any of those routers live.
Is QuickCNC the best options based on your experience and insights🙂?
Thank you in advance!
Yes and no. Yes quick cnc makes much better machines than blue elephant (I also owned a blue elephant atc 2040 model) and quick is more expensive but also much more professional and heavy build. Blue elephant sold me an machine and upon arrival the steel of the frame was 2mm thick instead of the 5mm(?) they promised. The other company's I did not visit. My new machine from quick is in transit right now and will arrive in 6 weeks time. Quality costs money and quick is not the cheapest but the best I have seen. No nonsense heavy build machines
Thank you for the very supplementary and quick answer. This helped me a lot.
Have a nice weekend and I wishes you all the best with the new machine and overall business!!
@@ontwerpopmaatpuntcom what model is the new machine you purchased from Quick? I am looking now for 1530 machine. The Quick sales person has recommended the UE-481 which has a chinese spindle and is around $8000USD cheaper than the UA-481. After watching your video I think I will go for the UA-481 instead since it looks like a more heavy duty construction and has the italian spindle instead of chinese. Did you upgrade to the German (Becker) vacuum pump??
@Sindre Hansen what machine did you end up purchasing?
@@MC-fl2jp I have the ua 4020 model now. Nicely build
Is the mentioned price includes the vacuum pump? Thanks in advance
You mean the airfilter unit? Yes that is included
Hey, I'd like to know how satisfied you are with Eding.
My router is on its way, and I intend to convert the A11 restricted controller to Eding.
Eding is great. Never have problems with it. Affordable and easy to work with. Can you do basic programming?
It's been a long time since I learned on a Heidenhain control system. My biggest worry is the installation.
congratulations on a great machine.. have you heard of hopetool cnc, I'm thinking of getting one from them but I don't know what they are? this is my first cnc so I don't want to make a mistake.
I do not know them. What kind of machine are you looking for?
Atc router 1325..they are much cheaper than the Quick, so I'm afraid of their frame, how thick it is..how long is the construction's lifespan?
how does this look to you, I see that you understand each other, so I'm interested in your opinion
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what is the company full name? i didnt find from alibaba
Jinan quick cnc. Google on ua481 model. Not on alibaba but there website
Goedeavond. Ik ben op zoek naar een CNC-machine voor mijn timmerwerkplaats. Kan ik u ontmoeten om de machine te bekijken en advies te krijgen over hoe u deze kunt bestellen?
Dat kan zeker, je kunt contact opnemen via samosa.nl daar staan onze gegevens.
Geweldige video, bedankt voor het delen. Ik zag deze video en maakte contact met quick voor een offerte en ze hebben me ook deze video gedeeld via whatsapp als referentie. Ik denk eraan om ook een te kopen, heb je ook ervaring met hun klantenband machine?
En welke vacuüm pomp heb jij erbij genomen?
Hallo, 7 jaar geleden heb ik 2 beckers genomen bij mijn eerste UA481. Bij de nieuwe (2e voor ernaast) heb ik gekozen voor de Tongyou pompen, die zijn wat goedkoper. Tot nu toe werken ze alle 4 prima (2 pompen per machine). Met kun kantenlijmer heb ik geen ervaring maar ik heb wel een chinese kantenlijmer gehad. Ding was simpel en degelijk. Er kwam verbazend netjes werk uit maar verstellen was erg lastig. Een voorfrees zou ik wel adviseren trouwens.
Hi, what is the software that controls the machine?
We use v carve pro for all our 3 axis machines.
@@ontwerpopmaatpuntcomthanks but I was asking about the software that controls and moves the machine . Is it mach3 ?
I was asking about the software or controller that moves the machine.
@akshaykumarvyas we use eding cnc. A dutch made cnc controller with lots of options and easy to use
Hallo Guus, ik ben ook geïnteresseerd in zo een machine, ben ,elf meubel maker . Als je me aan wat info kan helpen zou top zijn, zoals invoer software en hoe moeilijk de machine te bedienen is. Gr zakaria
Hallo! Cnc samengevat: alles gaat automatisch en niks gaat vanzelf. Die machine doet precies wat je hem verteld te doen maar hij denkt niet mee. Heb je tekenervaring in een 2d tekenpakket?
Hallo, de dankt voor je reactie. Ik heb contact opgenomen met quick in China en die gaven mij jou naam aan als reverentie, vandaar dat ik je heb benaderd. Ik heb geen ervaring met 2D tekening .wellicht mag ik een keer bij je kijken op de werkplaats. Gr zakaria
@@zakaboya hoi! Leuk dat ze je doorverwezen hebben. Woensdag komt er een nieuwe cnc aan van quick. Een ua481 met werkbereik 2100x4000mm. Deze monteren we zelf af met eding cnc en dan zal hij over een maand of wat in gebruik zijn. Kom maar een keer kijken in de werkplaats, dan kun je zien wat we allemaal doen.
Thanks Guus, voor je gastvrijheid en uitnodiging en natuurlijk voor je tijd. Lijkt met tof . Ik zal je over een maand bellen via je bedrijf .
Gr zakaria
Dikke Mashiennn!
Yes, it is a joy to work with. :D
Hello.. are you thinking of selling it?
Certainly not. We use it every day for hours:D
Welcome you to enquiry us
Nice machines you make! Very heavy. But not for the work we do. We are more into cnc routing wood panels
prices please?
Call quick cnc in jinan china. If you watched the video you would know that I use the machine. Not sell them.
@@ontwerpopmaatpuntcom yeah but i spent the whole video thinking... great but is this anywhere near my budget range, should i even bother watching this if not
@@udgamcl basic types, smaller and no atc start at 8k I think. My machine was 32k to buy + 5k in transport.
Hello, does anyone have experience with Techpro CnC. would help me a lot Thank you.
Hello! I do not know them personally but from checking their site they have a very diverse range of product. So diverse that I think that they buy machines from other company's and rebrand them to their own brand. Can you visit them and see their factory? There are reall factory's in china but also a lot of resellers that only spend their time on marketing and sales. Not on machine quality.
Their site is not bad but if you are gonna spend 20k on a new machine, spend 2k to visit them, and a few other factories to get a good impression of the possibilities.
Thank you for your reply, unfortunately it is not possible to visit the company due to time constraints. I have ordered a standard 1530, I will test it and check the quality. If everything goes well, I will buy a 4-axle ATC.
@@woodartpty exiting project! Enjoy your new machine and hopefully everything works out!
Hi Samosa! What is your email? I have questions to ask. thanks
Hello! You can mail me on Guus@samosa.nl what do you want tot know?
@@ontwerpopmaatpuntcom Thanks! I will send you a message in your email.