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Comparison: FansToys FT-55 Recorder VS Deformation Space DS-02 Recording Alliance (AKA Blasters)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2024
- 00:00 Images
00:25 Introduction
1:36 Accessories
2:48 Cartoon Accuracy & Sculpt
4:24 Paint & Build
6:28 Articulation
10:19 Transformation & Engineering
11:25 Alt Mode
13:54 Cost & Members Choice
15:34 Final Thoughts
Comparison of FansToys FT-55 Recorder VS Deformation Space DS-02 Recording Alliance (AKA Blasters)
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I tried to explain this in the review, but people either don't hear me or don't understand. I don't care what you paid for your copy. It doesn't change the fact that the US retail price is $200, and unless you can show me a US retail price that's not 200, it doesn't matter.
I did watch the video, and I was waiting for you to mention the original price of the DS compared to the aftermarket prices. It's not really fair to compare aftermarket prices of one product to the original price of another, since that will only be useful until the second product becomes only available through the aftermaket as well, and becomes much more expensive. You presented the budget product at its most expensive point and the luxury product at its cheapest.
That's not the after market price, that's the original MSRP at US Retail. Show me otherwise, I even had someone confirm they paid this price when they preordered the original release
@@nujevad28 tfsource.com/3rd-party-figures/blast-and-ram-deformation-space/
@@nujevad28 www.thechosenprime.com/ds02g1barh
@@nujevad28 www.agabyss.com/deformation-space-ds-02-recording-allicance
So the DS version has wider shoulders and chest, a slimmed down waist and beefier legs... Is it just me, or does it look more like an FT figure than the actual FT one does?
The DS Blaster is a lot easier to transform with far fewer small fiddly steps that can be overlooked during transformation, AND it still maintains a clean robot and alt-mode with MORE articulation than we get from Fanstoys. I don't know how you measure engineering but IMO engineering is firmly in the DS Blaster's favor. Fanstoys transformation isn't hard, but it is a lot more steps than it needs to be and the robot and alt mode results aren't really any better.
For gimmicks you missed that DS Blaster's back opens up so if you do get a cassette stuck it is very easy to pop out. Cassettes get stuck in FT Soundwave and I've seen a few videos with cassettes stuck in FT Blaster as well. It happens with all MP figures that store cassettes (even official toys like MP-13 Soundwave.) DS is the only one so far to make the issue easy to resolve without needing sludgers or screwdrivers.
As for price a lot of retailers still have it at $80. Original MSRP was $129. I know you have to pick your retailer of choice but locking to two of the most expensive online retailers is silly. We live in a global marketplace and there is no barrier preventing people from buying from ShowZ or other retailers. In fact for Europeans it is easier to buy from ShowZ than from TFSource. IMO people need to stop using tem as the definitive price reference (Bobby Skullface and other do too).
Well said. I couldn't agree more. 💯
True true, I live in U.S. I stopped purchasing through our retailers. Showz is definitely 👍🏼 my go too.
100% agree
I just wish it had the head sculpt shape of the Fan Toys which is more accurate.
Definitely one of the most interesting versus yet. Having both in hand now I was surprised that the DS has the more heroic looking sculpt which FT usually nails. But after looking at them multiple times throughout the day on my shelf the paint on the FT made my eyes go to it every time so it’s the one staying in bot mode and the DS will be next to MP-13 in alt mode. I’ll admit had the DS had the same premium paint I would have skipped the FT Blaster. I think your versus was really fair and if people disagree with any category then they can adjust the final score for themselves! Thank you for doing these as they really help a lot.
Thanks Wiskey
I bet this versus closely mirrors the inevitable blitzwing showdown of the future
I don't think so as this figure is fully painted while Blitzwing is a very good looking figure, he has very little paint on him so that's a huge detriment. You could pretty much give paint, build and sculpt to Fans Toys as they'll have those spades.
@saysoun752 With all these cell shaded toon paint jobs I see getting done I'm guessing the same could be done if some collectors are looking for that TT/FT premium like paint job for their figures
@@saysoun752 agreed 👍🏼
I think this might be the first time I really disagree with one of these comparisons. I think the DS is far superior. I'm not sure I really even think the fans toys is more cartoon accurate
Fanstoys is closer to the cartoon model, but the shows didn't follow the cartoon model very closely. On the show the radio mode most often shows the door in the center and not to the side. Also in the cartoon the robot mode is most often shown with a shorter pelvis area.
The only thing I think I like better on FT is the glossy paint. But I don't mind the matte finish either
Df space is one of my favorite in my collection. I got him at tfcon Chicago 2022. Love him more than words
the problem with cartoon accuracy is there are too many variations that a character is rendered in the tv series
the cartoon shown in your video was not the Blaster i remember
and to me the rendition of deformation space is what i remembered growing up
Great versus 🆚 this one was pretty much close as both MPs are done so well. I’m going with FT for the great premium finish but DS is great as well.
Seeing them side by side, at first glance i notice how much better the DS looks, maybe due the face/eyes?
Really good breakdown. I think it was fair and as objective as anyone could get. The devil is in the details, the areas that FT won they won by a hair. For me, definitely not enough of a difference to switch out my DS. Plus personally I can't get over that FT head sculpt and those shoulders........ too derpy to take down the reigning champ Recording Alliance 😊 at least for me.
100% agree. Im sure it feels better in hand looks a bit off. To toon.
DS will remain my blaster. I don't even consider paint unless it's a close comparison and in my opinion it's not close at all. FT looks...weird.
Great VS. Need both ✨️😃
Thanks
I appreciate the comparison. I like FTs products and quality but the DS check my boxes. I don’t have either at this point but I may pick up DS later
TF Source has DS on pre-order. I kept putting off Show-Z's fire sale. Stupid me SMH
This alone shows why I got bored of most third party figures and slowed down collecting. In the pursuit of hyper G1, everything regardless of company starts looking identical and loses its appeal.
I think FT slightly blew it this time, shoulder, forehead and especially the hip, sheesh. Proportion wise it just doesn't feel right.......
If you want to commend them for accuracy based on very small details you need to properly evaluate them on how well they succeeded in those details. Things like FT having the lower shoulders but they're too low compared to source, and the offset in the alt mode should only be the deck itself and not the buttons. Points for effort, sure, but is trying and getting it wrong better or worse than not trying in order to maintain aesthetics?
There’s an easy but expensive solution , to keep the FT IN recorder mode and DS in robot mode. The cassettes are different too so it’s a win-win
Fanstoys also has the toy head option, which I think they did a pretty good job on, so if I do get Recorder, I can still have them look different and be happy, even in bot mode.
I have the FTs on pre order but im not getting rid of my Ds. Its such a great figure and the lack of paint means i can mess with it without worrying im going to chip or scratch the paint
The DS Blaster is fully painted.
@@jon9550 no its not. No way its painted. Im messing with it right now. That’s straight plastic
The red is paint, it looks like matte plastic but I know it's paint because it actually rubs off on other parts
@@TMReviews wow it’s so light i can barely tell. But i see it now.
@@jon9550 you are actually correct. Its so light its hard to tell
Hi TMR are you planning on getting the Gold chest, and if so will you please do a video on replacing it I'm a little nervous about the pin removal. I'm definitely in on the Gold chest I think it's a better look especially when you display him with RP-01 acoustic-wave
Yes, and of course will do a video
Great video!! Definitely both great figures. But am not lie! The DS just looks better to me. Is almost like the Proportions is better, the Sculpt is better, the Articulation is better and than there's that huge price difference. Is like 1/2 the cost. The only thing I like better on the Fanstoys is gloss and the light gray parts. I may just get the DS. As always great video TMR. ❤
Thanks man
Glad I played the long game on these figs; just snagged Recorder for $170 USD (free shipping too) from an overseas store and DS Recording for $60 bucks. Also picked up the FT gold plate chest. Now the tough decision which to keep in bot and which in alt mode.
Excellent comparison as usual. I look forward to all your comparison videos as you try to minimize the subjectivity as best you can. Any chance you'll compare the Fans Toys Rewind to the MMC version? Even though they are different sizes, it would be interesting to see how they compare based on your criteria.
Thanks man, I might do a short comparison of those two since it's not all that much to look at
It's kind of odd... FT definitely looks more toon accurate, but not quite as accurate as the DS in the hips... Blaster's hips in the animation model jut out quite a bit more and are bigger than the FT's. Also honestly I prefer the DS's proportions and overall body structure more because animation Blaster just looked odd to me. Not as odd as G1 "My shoulders are located mid torso" Huffer, but odd.
/edit - And hysterically my copy of the DS Blaster finally showed up on my doorstep while I was watching this.
Ok lets try that again...I believe the only thing that is going to Save FTs Blaster is the Gold Plated Chest.
this was an easy choice for me. I never picked up the DS. I don't like the matt finish. I left their Seekers alone for the same reason. I think that flat finish makes the DS versions look cheap. Thanks for the comparison Sony.
Thanks Lowell, i totally get it
DS wasn't sold at $200, even when he was first released, hovering around $130. The store selling him at $200 is ripping people off.
Sigh...send me the link to the US store where that is the case. I'll gladly issue a correction to this video
TF direct has one.
@@TMReviews tfsource
Tfdirect is not the US, it's in China, thanks for trying
Tfsource is 200....I feel like you guys aren't even watching the video or reading what I'm saying, just saying random stores
Funny how the we want toon crowd change they tune when it costs more than. What they have ( now they don’t like the proportions etc etc )
I'm so glad I managed to get a $200 figure, which looks great, for $140 even before the "fire sale". Very happy with the figure. Shocked at the markup that some retailers put on it, but I guess it pays to shop around.
Kudos to you for using a consistent method for pricing, and for clearly explaining the rationale you’ve used.
Thanks you!
I have the DS and I am debating about getting FT just for completion, but the ab cruch and the over all has me favoring the DS on this one.
Honestly, the Fanstoys one looks amazing, and Eject is worlds better than that Ramhorn, but none of that warrants a purchase for me. Im more than happy with my DS Blaster, even with paying the initial $120 he went for.
Man these guys look closer than I thought they would. FT’s paint looks better hands down, but I do like DS’s proportions. I think the biggest X factor for me is the FT head/face sculpt looks better, and the tape is better. But man, I do hate the boombox handle on FT’s version. It’s so broken up and notched due to the transformation. Honestly I thought FT would blow it out of the water, but this review actually made me give more credit to DS than I expected. Well done.
Thanks, yeah DS is still a solid option
DS is still 80 to 100 bucks in several aliexpress stores.
I say get him while he's still available.
I could never display FT in alt mode with that terrible looking handle. But who are we kidding, nobody displays in alt mode unless they buy two copies anyway. Too bad you can't even get the DS now.
I have almost every toon accurate FT figure besides Mirage & Blaster...I think the members choice section speaks volumes because the majority of your members always goes FT...not speaking on the fire sale, i got my DS at $140 when he 1st came out...I understand that u use the price listing u use but DS was NEVER $200 overseas but even there, FT is... good comparison but I believe the DS is even better than this subjective comparison...do love the videos tho 💯
Yeah just in the USA 🇺🇸 DS was initially released with a $200 sticker. Retailers here like to jack up the price crazy.
I don't have either but going by this video, I think DS looks better in both modes. Specifically, the lower legs in robot mode and the handle in tape deck mode.
Obviously DS is better but this reviewer is a fanboy lol
No comparisons needed for this video as Deformation Space wins it on the shoulders alone. I'm not a fan of how low the shoulders are on the Fans Toys version so that's a no go for me. I love cartoon accuracies but, I think this really hurts Fans Toys on this Transformers. As always, great comparison video.
I have the DS version & currently waiting for the FT one to arrive. Yeah just by looking at them both even though FT is more close to the cartoon, I can tell I’ll still be attached to the DS one. Imagine if we could swap heads with the figures.
One question TM...does FT's Cassettes fit into DS?
Yes
@TMReviews And we now have my set up. DS Blaster with FT's Cassettes. One more question...does TT's Cassettes fit into FT's Soundwave?
Yes, but not visa versa
The DS version was $130 even before the fire sale on ShowZ and other Chinese sites FYI.
they both look just bought the same but im went with Fans Toys better build (aka Die Cast) better plastic and better paint ............
Awesome thing is you can’t go wrong either way!
@@dustyyshellz1320 🥷🏽
I can't believe I never noticed Blaster's yellow tape section is slightly off-center. Thanks for pointing that out. It's now going to bother my OCD brain until the end of time! 😆
(To be fair, the only version of Blaster I have in my collection is the one by KFC, which *isn't* off-center).
Lol
I don't think I've ever seen a tie on price before (I could just be forgetting).
I would had pickup FT if it wast the Head split on the forehead, Owh well DS is good on the shelf aswell, both have their merits.
Was hopin you would show if the FT cassettes would work in the DS Blaster.
They do
Having had both in hand, DS comes across as really cheaply made; lots of sprue marks and scratches. Also, most of the red is not painted, it is sand blasted, which also makes it more susceptible to scuff marks than the painted FT figure. The cassette release mechanism is much better on the FT figure. It goes without saying that the cassettes figure is also much better with FT. I just feel that if you are going to pay anywhere near +100 dollars on a figure, it better be maid well, DS just comes across as cheap in hand. That little bit of ab crunch doesn't do it for me. I thought the Seeker figures from DS were great (especially relative to MP-52) but this one was really disappointing.
Its the alt blaster mode. The buttons shifted to the right off centre looks odd. G1 toy has symmetric center located buttons. I have Ds and it looks better to me but I will grab this when it hits 169$.
And the winner is DS!!!
I love your comparisons in general, but this time I don't share your opinion but I respect it
Could you see if the FT cassettes fit well in the DS version?
What’s up with your left most button being out of alignment with the others on ft? Will it pop into place?
Is rewind the same size as the kfc rewind?
The other three move to align
Cant go wrong with neither.
Both figures are really nice. You can't lose with either.
Don't you have the keys fantasy club one
I don't have it anymore, sorry
@TMReviews I was mad when I got my kfc it had broken Pieces And nowhere to contact them because I bought it at a con brand new in the box
I bought and sold the KFC version 4 times. Each time they had a new color scheme and they never fixed the issues, what a waste
@@TMReviews I still just wish that ocular max would make A sound wave and blaster to fit those awesome tapes. I'm sure they could do it easily. We all spend a lot of money on these toys. Some of the toys we buy are a thousand dollars . They should really put 1 out. H*** even add an m p four player in the front where the tapes go so that we can watch transformer videos on them
I got a second DS for $90 off eBay a couple months back
i like the ds better and you're right if you got him in the sale it's a no brainer, would i spend 200 bucks on the ds? no he's not worth that
DS was never sold at that price when he was first released, going at around $130 or so. He's actually below $100 in most online stores now, so hearing that a store is selling him at $200 is beyond ludicrous.
@@nujevad28 U.S. retailers did initially sell him for $200 when first released. I didn’t pay that after watching reviews about lack of paint and Showz had it a good $50 bucks cheaper which is where I purchased mine from. Later, they even dropped the price more to like $80.
TE/ DS already out of business?
I've bought all their figures to support them.
Seekers are good.
All their figures are pretty good.
Not top notch, but the others are all more expensive.
They seem to be reissuing stuff for super cheap. But no new figures have come out for a while
@@TMReviews Yeah, i see all the rereleases going for 60 usd.
good comparison, but is DS really matte painted? It looks like plastic to me man, not like matte paint at all -- straight from the production floor... I mean, reflected in the cost right?
Yeah, definitely painted, it rubs off on other parts so you can tell it's paint. Just Very subtle
People should stop associating light weight with being cheap
Agreed
Yes, DS is a light weight figure but great quality and very possible. I would almost prefer for FT to go that route but still maintain the paint.
Great vid. I have the DS version bro and I don’t think it’s completely painted, just the yellow chest is but it seems to me to be colored plastics throughout. I could be wrong but other reviewers seem to have come to that conclusion also. Might also be the reason why it was so cheaply priced.
I initially thought that as well but the red paint actually rubs onto other surfaces, plastic wouldn't do that
Maybe a clear coat? Idk only way to verify is scratch it see if goes alway through.
Hey bro, are u picking up that KFC snapdragon for review? Was thinking of purchasing but unsure.
Yep
@@TMReviews hell yeah, awesome. Hopefully they made some improvements as far as quality goes. I know it’s painted now but idk if they fixed the tooth spacing on the leg ratchets.
I have already been informed they did not change the teeth spacing in the leg ratchet 😔
DS looks way better.
I might be biased, but I just don't like the new TFE/DS figures look. They usually nail the sculpting, but the unpainted surfaces and matte paint just looks so bland. This blaster could have been a God tier figure if they had done a better chose of paint.
I'll stick to the ft 55, I like my figure having more die cast
Still like my ds. Ft feels more premium but that’s about the only thing going for it imo. Both are good but for me the ds is perfect for what I need on my display
I sold my Ft the day I opened it. 1st time for a Ft. Proportions looked off. No head articulation instant no. Rebought the DS.
I think FT loses this time to me personally. Which is not normal cuz usually I go for FT
I have never bought a FansToys figure. I see their appeal, but most of them are overpriced.
I used to think the same until I bought one back in late 2019. I still can't say I completely agree on their pricing, but I now own 17 of their figures and have a few more incoming lolz.
The price point is for DS....you've chosen the only store that has sold It for 199$...
tfsource.com/3rd-party-figures/blast-and-ram-deformation-space/
www.thechosenprime.com/ds02g1barh
www.agabyss.com/deformation-space-ds-02-recording-allicance
@@TMReviews Really, I'm not saying this to be controversial, but in Europe the highest price that has been seen for the figure is $130 and then they lowered it to $80.
without a doubt for that price it is clear that the quality of fanstoys is a winner but the figure I think they have inflated the price a lot.
FT>>>>>
I have both and fanstoys isn't better than DFS Blaster at all!!!!
i bought my DS for 160 when it came out
And I bought mine from. Show Z last year for $69 when he and the DS seekers went on sale. The FT Blaster doesn't offer anything significant for me to justify spending $200 when I'm perfectly satisfied with my DS Blaster. 😮
I got him for 100 lol😊
FT Blaster looks horrible, in my opinion. Not proportional at all.
You are way better then bobby skull😅
Yeah, Bobby definitely needs to upgrade that camera, looks like video from a flip phone.