Singapore Airshow 2024 sees global debut of China's first homegrown airliner
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- China's challenger to Airbus and Boeing's passenger jets, the narrow-body C919, made its international debut at the Singapore Airshow on Sunday (Feb 19). READ MORE: str.sg/wToBo
It comes as the Chinese plane-maker - COMAC - signals an interest in gaining more of a foothold in the aviation market this year, while the two Western plane makers struggle to meet production demands.
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Fun fact...The first chief engineer of Boeing was a Chinese man named Wong Tsu. He is regarded by the Boeing company as the Father of the Boeing company.
China civil aviation industry is amazingly impressive and will set to grow internationally. Well done. China is a blessing to the world. Happy Chinese New Year in welcoming Spring in the Year Of The Loong 👍🙏🐉❤️🇨🇳
One thing we can be sure is that C919 door will not drop in middle air.
The C919 has received orders for 1,000 aircraft right now.
Good luck Boeing.
Don't be naive, how many countries recognize this aircraft as safe?😂😂
C919 RIP
@@ClaraSticks.like.figure better to answer this question after 1000th C919 is in operation.
@@xgguo3531 1000? 😂 western suppliers dependable. Once they stop supply, this plane production stop
@@deschan2246 It is a risk but under consideration by COMAC and China government already . First . No reason for western suppliers to stop supply today Second, COMAC has backup suppliers in its supplier list for all western systes, as plan B.
And sanction on COMAC will cause response from China as China can put sanction on Boeing or AirBus if necessary.
Doesn’t this have US/French engines? Seems like a decent aircraft 👍
Negavite, this only has a US engine from General Electric.
@@christhedoc8689 CFM international is Not "American". A simple Google search will tell you the answer.
International in what sense? Technology still belong to US and it's Europe counterparts @@tailsorange2872
@@christhedoc8689 well the engines are a product of CFM international. This a 50% split between French and US companies. So you could say the engines are American, but they are equally French. A good collaboration between CFM and COMAC
It uses CFM LEAP-1C, same engine as the A320NEO and 737MAX
Regardless if you like COMAC or not, competition tends to work in favor of the consumers
Competition? Almost nobody's going to buy that airplane outside china. and not cheaper because its actually more expensive than max 7
@@kiyoshim9593Japan 😂😂😂
@@kiyoshim9593 Like BYD was no competition for Tesla? If I recall correctly, Elon laughed at BYD 10 years ago. He is singing a different tune now. it's wiping the floor with Tesla and forcing them to constantly dropping prices to compete. Like I said, like it or not COMAC will bring more competition to the industry. COMAC is young company. Of course, it will take time for it to build market share. China market of over 1billion people moving to middle class and begin stage for travelling, tail wind is in COMAC back
@@kiyoshim9593American Airlines just ordered 20 of them (real)
@@kiyoshim9593of course, you can’t buy
"Made in China" has been questioned and ridiculed by some Westerners for decades. From the beginning, it could only produce cheap clothes and shoes, and now it has become a product of artificial intelligence, quantum communications, aerospace, electric vehicles, driverless cars, etc. Supercomputers, high-speed rail, 5G, etc., can all be manufactured in China. It took the Chinese people several decades to complete the two hundred years of development of Western developed countries, but they are still ridiculed by some people.Those who laugh are still laughing, but China has already gone very far.
They troll saying made in china but still uses made in china parts in machines and vehicles.
Just search on google "Comac C919 Sourcing parts" You will see that the plane is most made in USA, Europe.
Only one thing China is still far behind the West is Propaganda. Western propaganda can transform lies into "truths". China struggle to prove the truths.
one of only 2 nations beside USSR to build space station on their own... people can laugh however they want but now China has nothing to prove to them...
無所謂。
讓他們黑，我們踏踏實實做好自己的事情。
When most people in the comments say that he uses foreign parts. I wonder if it were that easy to buy foreign parts to build a plane. So why are there only two large passenger aircraft manufacturers in the world?
If the plane is made in China, must it be China parts? Did Boeing and Airbus not use parts from other countries? Don't joke, brother, Airbus A220 fuselage is manufactured in China
also COMAC wants C919 to get u.s and EU certifications... they can't argue when the plane mostly use their parts
Why ? question is which foreign parts, seats are parts of a pane same as engine.
Everyone can make seats , but planes need a engine to fly.
@danielkurtovic9099 You can search for the Y-20 and J-20. Of course, China can completely use its own engines. If China cannot manufacture it itself, Europe and America will not sell the engines to you, and you cannot make airplanes because they know that if they do not sell it to you, you will use your own engines. At present, using engines from Europe and America can bind interests, make them recognize you, and provide you with an airworthiness certificate. Secondly, it can avoid crazy suppression
Good for China! The C919 sure looks like a winner.
Long Live the CCP
Almost nothing from that plane was made in china.
@@kiyoshim9593 It's assembled in China, but yeah the design, tech, and software is all non-Chinese.
Nah, many will still go for 737 or A320 unless they're in the last line of the production queue.
@@paulsteaven ......you still want to fly in the 737 Max knowing the software that killed 346 people in two deadly crashes is still operating in that plane albeit with some modifications? Or the current quality control system in Boeing is under great scrutiny by the FAA for not capturing deadly defects such as no bolts installed on the door plug ?
A journey of a thousand miles begin with a single step - Confucius
I'm glad that the 737 max 9 isn't in the market. They should just scrap the whole lot and redesign from scratch.
Enjoying posting under VPN?
Cry a river, 737 max is opening another line of production. COMAC wont be surpassing airbus or Boeign for at least 50 years.
Unlike Boeing's 737 max, the C919 will only ever be bought by domestic Chinese carriers, until it eventually collapses into administration, like everything else in China.
Imho, sia must buy Boeing. Otherwise, there'll be reports on human rights violation.
@@alantan9863 Such narrow minded. Have you forgotten there's Airbus A320neo? Singapore Airlines has Airbus in the fleet, so order up some A320neo as alternative to the 737 MAX 8 (16 in fleet) is viable.
The media wasn’t telling the full story about 737 max.
Every Remote control aircraft enthusiasts knew the problem.
--> Moving the engine position forward shifted the plane’s center of gravity, which altered the aerodynamics of the aircraft. The position of the new engines pulled the 737 tail down, pushed its nose up, and put it at risk of stalling. (Slow air speed and high nose position are the most common causes of stalls. When an aircraft stalls, it begins to fall because the wings stop creating lift.)
To compete with the Airbus A320-NEO, the Max had larger engines than previous 737 models. They were designed for greater range and fuel efficiency but came with a tradeoff. Since the 737 sits so low to the ground, Boeing had to change the position of the engines on the wing to give the plane ground clearance and account for the extended length of the fuselage.
But by solving an old problem, Boeing created a new one. The new engines were too big to fit in their traditional spot under the wings. To combat the problem, Boeing mounted them forward on the wings. Moving the engine position forward shifted the plane’s center of gravity, which altered the aerodynamics of the aircraft. The position of the new engines pulled the 737 tail down, pushed its nose up, and put it at risk of stalling. (Slow air speed and high nose position are the most common causes of stalls. When an aircraft stalls, it begins to fall because the wings stop creating lift.)
Boeing installed extra software to make the updated 737 fly like traditional ones. It was designed to prevent stalls, compensate for the position of the engine on the wing, and force the aircraft’s nose down automatically when the sensors determined the airplane was flying at a dangerous angle.
The stall-prevention system (known as MCAS) was poorly designed and implemented. Since it was intended to work in the background, Boeing didn’t brief pilots about the software or train them in simulators. The software didn’t activate when the flaps were down or the autopilot was on.³ And when the MCAS system went haywire, pilots could deactivate it with a switch on the center pedestal of the 737 cockpit. As pilots yoked the airplane upwards, the software automatically pushed the aircraft nose back down. This led to the crash of the two Boeing airplanes.
Me : Are you going to do something?
Embraer : NOPE!
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20-2-2024 United flight Boeing 757 , makes emergency landing after part of wing breaks off
Video taken by a passenger on a United Airlines flight from San Francisco to Boston appears to show a portion of the wing slat coming apart.
I have been reading for years on the development of COMAC. All I will say is that it remains to be seen how good their planes really are, this is something China will not be able to hide like other things. Time will tell, but I would not jump on the band wagon to fly on this carrier. From the research I made, their research was accelerated, and lot of difficulties. Boeing and AIrbus are the chiefs on this industry!
在商用机领域，中国还是一个新人。还有很多挑战需要面对。但我相信一定会成功。
一个国家的科技水准，军用是上限，民用是下限。在战斗机方面，中国已经和美国并驾齐驱并超越欧洲，所以本身航空工业科技实力是不弱于欧美的。更多的是积累民用飞机设计的经验和构建完整的产业配套群。
I want to see them doing the almost vertical climb like Boeing / Airbus did with their demos
The ability to climb is mostly tested by the engine, which does not need to be demonstrated
@@user-ce6el8tt6e the vertical climb is not to demo the engine , but the ability to operate at near critical envelope , which translate to well designed airframe .
Can it be a challenge if only 25% is made in china
So many 5cents army here!!! Haha
Congratulations china ❤
If Boeing 737 Max can be ‘certified’ by EU, I don’t see why it could take long for C919 to be certified! Unless it’s all about protectionism
You'll find out that the self entitled champions of "freedom and equality" don't like anyone else challenging their dominance, especially with better products than they can offer, hence the COMAC will never receive certification from either the FAA or EASA.
its all about servicing. no service centres in the EU or US. service centres in china for sure. no not much point at this moment. also the economy is equivalent to the a320 ceo. so no rush either. it will need 10 years of operations before other international carriers are interested. of course argentina / iran / etc could be interested. then again they may also be interested in the russian mc 21.
nobody care about EU anymore, its about China and etc around it
C919, the next plan is C929 !
China should just make the plane entirely in China. Because Right now almost every component from that Airplane was sourced from USA, Europe and Japan
To made westerners fly on China made plane will take many years to gain theirs trust as we can see how good and how reliable product from China last . 😮
It's not like western products are any better in "quality and quantity."
glory to the chinese race and the chinese pride . chinese power!!!!! fo those envy of the chinese success.
Bro this airplane has US engines from GE, if it wasn't because of the US this airplane wouldn't exist. thanks to the US for Giving them their engines. but i am really happy for China, they deserve this.
US was making such planes in the 60s without imported components. Dont get carried away
@@christhedoc8689Don't worry. Very soon Foreign engine will replace with homegrown cj1000 engines
@@christhedoc8689 yes but isnt airbus and boeing using RR engines?
@@LiuAndy-uw6cm Airbus and Boeing use GE engines and RR engines.
Do you ever think SQ will get the C919?
Then SIA will be off my list for sure.
@@jackt1400 SQ has 737max..... i won't fly their short routes
SIA must buy Boeing.
Otherwise, there'll be reports on human rights violation. lmho
😆SG n0t even a110wed to use Hu@wei equipment..
@@jackt1400Our trains are from China too.. Lol 😅😅😅
c919首先满足中国国内的需求 要想和空客以及波音竞争还是太难了
Booming business for the us
I will never fly on a Chinese plane . Or even Boeing for that right now . Would you ?
Singapore is leaning further towards China
In s'pore, it's very obvious that PAP is the only competent and effective party, bringing the airshow to the country full-scale. Fantastic!❤❤
How much are you paid by PAP?
U running for MP next election ah
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What has the air show got to do with the PAP? You mean to say, if another party is in power, they will stop multi-billion-dollar industry air shows??? LOL!!!
I'll fly ANY planes over Boeing Flying Coffin 737 MAXes. This means I'll fly with Comac C919s over the Boeing Flying Coffins.
this whole plane is made from
western parts
just a first stage
US sanction loading.....😂😂
first stage like superjet, next one will be with total replacement of everything rotten
That China made C919 is a great jetliner. It's better and much safer than the Boeing 737 Max which has many safely issues. I still remember the two Boeing 737 Max jetliner that crashed within a period of 5 months apart which killed hundreds of people (one was Ethiopian Airlines flight ET302 in 29 Oct 2018 and the other was Lion Air flight 610 in 10 March 2019)
And just recently an exit door panel that flew off from an Alaska jet Boeing 737 Max jetliner during mid-flight in the sky on 5 January 2024 which appeared to be missing four key bolts.
It seem like flying on a Boeing 737 Max jeliner is as good as flying in a ⚰️ casket. Who would be that dumb to risk their lives to fly on a Boeing 737 Max.
65% of all departures for the past 60 years have been on Boeing jets. In 2022 eight hundred and fifty-three million passengers flew on U S airlines.
@@jojo2113What does that have to do with the original commenter's post? The number of airplane accidents owing to Western plane manufacturers are the reason why we have a whole documentary series on air crash investigation 😂
B737 MAX has NUMEROUS issues, a lot of them directly affecting passnger safety.
@@jojo2113 lucky the door did not blow out @ 30000ft or it'd be the 3rd 737max down
@@tubester6772 And Airbus' and Boeing's parts are Made In China. There is also the OEM situation, which China will surely take advantage of.
no child porn no sex with minors no illegal drugs and no illegal firearms in any nation or violence against women or children!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Coffin in the sky
is it just me or it looks like a mix a32's/73's and little bit of the a220
then i could say the B787 copied a220😂
客机都长差不多，你见过长三个眼睛的人类么？
你在说什么，你没见过俄罗斯飞机吗，是的，我见过一个长着三只眼睛的人，你就是小鸟吗@@OzIan1983
@@Rsantana380 中文写的不好，重写一遍
下来给我头@@OzIan1983
Does it land in one piece or all passengers need to carry parachutes 😂😂😊
No it's not challenging the Boeing 737 MAX...
thanks for your heads up when i fly Max
I'd prefer taking the Chinese jet over a Boeing 737 max 😂
It is hard for Boeing to recover from 737 Max issues , especaiily the recent incidenet that 737 Max door dropped in the middle air.
then you have engine dropping off at Schiphol or the whole craft dropping like a stone mid flight in Indonesia !
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20-2-2024 United flight Boeing 757 , makes emergency landing after part of wing breaks off
Video taken by a passenger on a United Airlines flight from San Francisco to Boston appears to show a portion of the wing slat coming apart.
Demo products from China is always excellent; however they will try to cut corners using poor quality materials and skip processes once in mass production.
well, thats how the western media tells u 😂
No, they can't outdo Boeing, if that's your concern.
Western counterparts aren't any better in term of "quality vs quantity."
i'll avoid whichever airline flies this plane.
Whatever for u , i wont ride anny boeing as well😊
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20-2-2024 United flight Boeing 757 , makes emergency landing after part of wing breaks off
Video taken by a passenger on a United Airlines flight from San Francisco to Boston appears to show a portion of the wing slat coming apart.
I'd prefer taking the Chinese jet over a Boeing 737 max 😂
It is hard for Boeing to recover from 737 Max issues , especaiily the recent incidenet that 737 Max door dropped in the middle air.
then you have engine dropping off at Schiphol or the whole craft dropping like a stone mid flight in Indonesia !
Not a global debut. It just flew to Singapore.
Ohh no....a flying coffin 😂😂😂😂😂
Which one?....
Dr Paul Tambyah noted that because the basic Medishield Life scheme is insufficient to cover such medical costs, many have opted to take up the Integrated Shield Plans (IP).
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Rubbish
Not really homegrown but assembled with 90% imported high technology components and engines from the West.
Actually the Airframe is Chinese. Most of it at least. I dont know if it uses Chinese materials.
foreign parts only to ease the way to u.s and EU certifications
@@fatdoi003 yeap , smart move from them.
@@fatdoi003 easy way to be banned and pwned
60%，Because in order to obtain airworthiness certificates in the United States and Europe, no country's aircraft are all local. Now China has the ability to do all its own production, but business is business, and everyone wants to make money.
Panda 🐼 mighty 🙏🙂
Lol this cant even outsell embraer and bombardier
More than 1061 orders as of 2023
@@birdsnature6421 embraer e jet: 1671 built and delivered. Lol, let them try beating a brazilian company first
@@Ttui89. that is what they said about cheinese electric cars! who is laughing today.
@@Theman802 the chinese electric cars that are going up in flames?
@@Ttui89. Embraer was developed in 2002, and this one was developed in 2017, of course, there will be more orders and delivery, what is your point?
While Dr Paul Tambyah acknowledged MOH’s efforts to set up a committee to address the problem, he opined that it is unclear as to how the ministry will solve the issue “as there are no easy solutions without dealing with the fundamental problems with Medishield Life”.
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China's COMAC planes are 93% from non Chinese parts. 😅
Just like Boeing and Airbus who source parts globally.
@@nvcxznbcxz They cannot do that. The plane is certified with USA and European components, they cannot change to their own suppliers.
@@zsarimaxim692 absolutely correct
Even the food you eat is sourced from other countries. Manufacturing is no different 🙄
Only 60%, China is fully capable of self-production, but in order to obtain airworthiness certificates from Europe and North America, it chooses to purchase parts from Europe and the United States.
I will not fly in a tofu dreg plane
737 max, remember the mighty boeing causes fatal accidents with lion air and ethiopian airline. 737 max made in Indonesia?
Too scared right?? Since you like Motor bike so much can ride motor instead of plane. See where the bloody bike end up.
I'd prefer taking the Chinese jet over a Boeing 737 max 😂
It is hard for Boeing to recover from 737 Max issues , especaiily the recent incidenet that 737 Max door dropped in the middle air.
then you have engine dropping off at Schiphol or the whole craft dropping like a stone mid flight in Indonesia !
@@happymelon7129 I wonder what shortcuts did Boeing take to be get their planes "certified."
@@estiennetaylor1260
To compete with the Airbus A320-NEO, the Max had larger engines than previous 737 models. They were designed for greater range and fuel efficiency but came with a tradeoff. Since the 737 sits so low to the ground, Boeing had to change the position of the engines on the wing to give the plane ground clearance and account for the extended length of the fuselage.
But by solving an old problem, Boeing created a new one. The new engines were too big to fit in their traditional spot under the wings. To combat the problem, Boeing mounted them forward on the wings. Moving the engine position forward shifted the plane’s center of gravity, which altered the aerodynamics of the aircraft. The position of the new engines pulled the 737 tail down, pushed its nose up, and put it at risk of stalling. (Slow air speed and high nose position are the most common causes of stalls. When an aircraft stalls, it begins to fall because the wings stop creating lift.)
Boeing installed extra software to make the updated 737 fly like traditional ones. It was designed to prevent stalls, compensate for the position of the engine on the wing, and force the aircraft’s nose down automatically when the sensors determined the airplane was flying at a dangerous angle.
The stall-prevention system (known as MCAS) was poorly designed and implemented. Since it was intended to work in the background, Boeing didn’t brief pilots about the software or train them in simulators. The software didn’t activate when the flaps were down or the autopilot was on.³ And when the MCAS system went haywire, pilots could deactivate it with a switch on the center pedestal of the 737 cockpit. As pilots yoked the airplane upwards, the software automatically pushed the aircraft nose back down. This led to the crash of the two Boeing airplanes.
Also majority people said after they took the jabs previously but nowadays they only became more and more easily to fall sick, it's the pap party mistakes and there's no way to u-turn back.
Very true. Those jabs have seriously compromised the immune system of those who took it. Do a 6-month detoxification program with qualified TCM doctors.
computer ipad iphones watches and gaming are subject to search seizure if you possess child porn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What's important singapore had changed to a multi-nation country (multi-nation-singapore) so even with the saf soldiers also no use, it's the pap party mistakes and there's no way to u-turn back.
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The next coming MH370 😅😅😅😅 ....
And MH370 happened to be a... Boeing. Stupid!!!
MH370 sti11 with c1''A
CCP aircraft where when you are scanned as you seated to your next destination. I doubt yoh cant even mention winnie the pooh inside the plane 😂😂😂
"Weak china, you cant touch Taiwan at this state, go away china you cant touch taiwan at this rate" You have hidden talent to become poet but because of your ideology it has to stay hidden 😆
Sounds like a brainwashed western puppet.
“These problems have resulted in one of the high-income world’s worst problems, with inequality approaching the level of the United States, which probably has the most dysfunctional system in the high-income world,” he said.
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Who cares!
I think the CCP government would need to become way more transparent to the aviation industry scrutiny in terms of safety investigations before they should consider going international. They can’t always jump and down acting like some petulant kid when they get criticised.
What talking you, they have to submit all requested technical details to international aviation bodies just to be able to fly the plane commercially in foreign skies. Getting certified is considered a major hurdle for new entrants especially when there are only two major angmoh players. Just like to hear yourself talk right.
Is this politics or technology?
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people like jr800w is a kid that is why a kid logic@@wwbren
Most of that plane was made with foreign parts. So the Certification was easier.
So many CCP sympathisers in the comments. MHA pls note.
Oh, this type of Sporean is the one during childhood the single parent raised with eyes closed 😅
@@psgistheworstclubineurope Take whatever pittance of CPF you have to show for and offer it to your lord winnie the POO ^ ^
@@EleventhHour2359 See you both in changi prison
Chinese airplane and almost everything was made in USA or Europe. Not even the landing gear is Chinese.
Just like AIRBUS and Boeing who source parts globally
Rubbish boasting.rubbish 919.compared ti airbus and Boeing is strictly rubbish nosense.
Kudos to C919 🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🥇🥇🥇✈️✈️✈️💺💺💺☕️☕️☕️🥐🥐🥐-👩🏽🦽🌴🦅
Only the cover of the plane home-made. The rest of the importance parts that assembly are import from foreign technology. To completely self manufacture whole plane still far behind compare to western technology. Moreover, this whole world commercial airplane market only share by the US and France, and they definitely don't let any other countries to have portion of this whole delicious cake.
Apple's much hyped Vision Pro is fully Made in China with 60% of the components also designed by Chinese companies, it goes both ways. I read their homemade engine is test flying going through the motions for certification. Sure they got alot to prove but Comac is just beginning to flex it's wings, they will keep on improving as time goes on.
Just like AIRBUS and Boeing who source parts globally
More beautiful than b737&a320🎉