Chuck Tells Kim The Family History | Rebecca | Better Call Saul
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- Chuck gives Kim some insight on his father and Jimmy.
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From Season 2, Episode 5 'Rebecca' - Jimmy chafes under his restrictive work environment, and Kim goes to extremes to dig herself from a bottomless hole at HHM.
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Better Call Saul is the prequel to the award-winning series Breaking Bad, set six years before Saul Goodman (Bob Odenkirk) became Walter White's lawyer. When we meet him, the man who will become Saul Goodman is known as Jimmy McGill, a small-time lawyer searching for his destiny, and, more immediately, hustling to make ends meet. Working alongside, and often against, Jimmy is "fixer" Mike Erhmantraut (Jonathan Banks), a beloved character introduced in Breaking Bad. The series will track Jimmy's transformation into Saul Goodman, the man who puts "criminal" in "criminal lawyer."
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Michael McKean said, somewhat astutely, that Chuck's ultimate grudge ultimately boiled down to "Chuck made his parents proud, but Jimmy made his parents laugh."
Basically he wanted what he already had but also what Jimmy has and more importantly, Jimmy to have nothing.
@@matthewriley7826 Chuck is ok with Jimmy working in the mailroom. That's a situation where Jimmy is unquestionably Chuck's subordinate and Chuck can give him little pats on the head from up on high. When Jimmy passes the bar Chuck's expression is "Mother of god....."
Chuck had respect that jimmy wanted but Jimmy had love that Chuck wanted
so jimmy stealing and having his father to sell aint got anything to do with it right.
@@deepanshumolasi7151 do you watch the show? Even if jimmy not take anything his dad gave away money to every conman in town. His business will go bankrupt eventually
"At the funeral, no one cried harder than Jimmy"
Don't know why that line hits so hard.
Well he eventually got over it.... watch Slip..... he blames his dad fully for the store being closed
Regret, most likely, is why no one cried harder than Jimmy. I think Chuck put the failure, in toto, on Jimmy from the jump.
Perhaps Jimmy wasn't old/mature enough to see this for the bullshit it is, as grownups were conning him, too. This type of hurt is a major factor in Jimmy becoming Saul.
Chuck might be implying that Jimmy cried because he was the one at fault and not as a result of actual love.
It can be interpreted in a number of ways.
Jimmy knew he was responsible for his father’s death via a broken heart.
And/or
Jimmy spent so much time with his dad (compared to Chuck) that to lose him and cry that much would be natural.
Or
Jimmy was putting on a show for attention.
Or something else.
@@keanuxu5435 I’ve always viewed it as a combination of the three. Whenever Jimmy lies to those around him he is genuinely conflicted and hurt by it. We can see he had a deep love for his parents from various accounts he tells about them. But he also learned lessons from their failings and didn’t want to be victimised as they allowed themselves to be. He also shows he truly loves his family in how he takes care of Chuck. He gained nothing from taking his things to him everyday for so long. He could of had Chuck committed multiple times and financially benefited but didn’t.
He also knows how to play a crowd as we see later on at a memorial for Chuck. So even when he does genuinely love someone like Kim, his parents or Chuck he still can’t help himself from taking advantage of situations.
The way Chuck describes their father as knowing everyone’s name and how much the town loved him reminds me a lot of Jimmy. It’s ironic that what he admired in his father, he was never able to see in his brother.
Seriously though! Like when he’s doing Elder Law and knows every one of his clients family members (and figurines 😂)
If he saw his dad giving money away to people who were obviously scamming him his opinion would quickly change
In his own way, Chuck was as manipulative as Jimmy.
@@Pwilliams4000 I don't think he would change his mind. We're shown Jimmy acting selflessly in front of Chuck plenty of times, even for his own sake, and even then the hatred for his brother didn't budge. Chuck was always utterly unable to let go of the idea that Jimmy was a bad person.
And also saying that after saying the shop was nothing special.
One of the things I love about this scene is that Chuck thinks he's revealing the "truth" of Jimmy to Kim, whereas Kim is actually seeing the truth of Chuck; he's always despised and envied his brother on some level.
On every level, I think.
Or Kim saw Jimmy for the conman and fraud he is deep down and still decided she did not care, which is in line with the choices she makes as the series progresses.
@@altafkalam2716 She did not care because “She likes it. She’s good at it and she was alive.”
@@altafkalam2716 if you're only ripping off rich people and criminals . . . you're not a conman
@@NymbusCumulo928 yeah but Jimmy is ripping off anyone in sight. He ripped off his father. He tries ripping off Mike, with stickers he doesn't even have to pay for. It's just his nature. If there's a shortcut, take it. If there isn't one, make one. Occasionally he does it to people who deserve it, but that's not what drives him primarily.
He even says "MY father" before correcting himself to "our father." Chuck truly wants nothing to do with his brother.
this sounds like my family completely. If I see or hear from my family twice a year it's usually because someone went into the hospital or has car problems.
@@id10t98 Me too, to them i'm basically the black sheep of the familiy.
@@silversteel2611 Aren't we all in that case ?
I wouldnt exactly want anything to do with a brother who steals and be a general menace to his own family.
Lets be real here, Jimmy is not a good guy even in his own story.
I disagree. I think his correction to "our father" was Chuck including Jimmy, fully appreciating that they share the same experiences. I don't think it was reluctant or forgetful.
I thought something was wrong with the audio because I'm hearing crackling, then I realize it's because Chuck is wearing his foil-lined suit. Amazing attention to detail ❤️
@zay yaz I ain't paying your toll
Good notice, in the scene where he freaks out in the court room, there’s a bus that drives away in the background, kind of like a tumbleweed in the desert.
@@laddie1851
"...That'll be $75 🔨⚖️"
-Seinfeld Parking Ticket Court Scene
@AndrewWithEase11 11 not really, sound is usually mixed in afterwards during editing. Filmmakers are extremely vigilant when it comes to audio.
@AndrewWithEase11 11 yeah u right, its not that deep
How Michael McKean (Chuck) was never even nominated for an Emmy for his masterful performance in this show, is still a mystery to this day
He was nominated only once for Creative Emmy for Guest appearance in the season 4 finale. They probably did it just as a consolation. He should've won for Chicanery though.
Awards are overrated, audience feedback is more important for the creators and actors
@@unknownuser0006 Exactly! Can't blame artists for wanting to be awarded, but I hope every artist embraces the fact that audience reaction matters most.
Because the publishing company of the show didn't pay enough the awards committee unfortunately.
So unlikable
"He was born without the gene". And now his son is Gene, Bravo Vince
and died Saulless
@@omegajrz1269 NOOOOOO!!!
@@omegajrz1269atleats he didn’t get Mckilled
Hate him all you want, Chuck is a very deeply written character though. He is the person who had missed the love he needed from his parents in his childhood, not that they didnt love him but they probably thought Jimmy needed it more. So Chuck had always been not-the-favourite kid and always had to be the bigger and mature kid while Jimmy had all the love for being himself. That caused Chuck's deep down fundamental personality to be of a child. He was great as a lawyer, a prodigy in his professional life, but as a person: spiteful, jealous, vengeful, insecure, all over little things which a mature person would get over easily.
Overall a very sad character, but we're wired to not being forgiving towards a person's evil actions even if we understand the reasons and accept that we probably should end up being just like that if we had it served to us. And I embrace that wiring, I hate Chuck.
@TekkenVirus Virus no, not weird at all.. we all want that with our characters because we relate with them and we wanting them to be better is probably subconsciously related with we wanting better things with ourselves. But this show and its parent show is filled with characters who Break Bad 😉
judging by the passion u have for this breaking bad universe u must be dying for season 6 !!
@@zeeshannandi2604 haan yaar 😅😉
What a nice breakdown of the characters. The writing on this show and Breaking Bad is just amazing. Almost every single character has many shades of grey so that you sometimes find yourself happy when a character does something awful because you just viscerally want that character to have some relief.
It's a situation many older siblings find themselves in.
Of course, Jimmy turned out to have similar fundamental immaturities as well that were the result of how his parents, among others, treated him. Either of them could be framed as the sympathetic protagonist to the other's hated antagonist, despite their flaws. If we saw the work that Chuck has put into his life to get and stay where he is without seeing Jimmy's work, we'd be wired to hate the silver-tongued, perfidious, and impulsive brother.
Both of them could benefit from learning and practicing introspection. Of course someone exploring and improving themselves spiritually would be a very different kind of drama.
I mean, we did see Jimmy steal money from the register as a child, which was obviously very wrong. But that was only the one occasion the audience is completely aware of, and it was only done immediately after Jimmy was angry at his Father for refusing to listen to him when he was trying to warn him about the bum who made up a sob story to get money off him.
Chuck automatically blamed Jimmy for the entire missing revenue for the store, even when it was more likely that their Father’s gross acts of generosity over the years was the real reason most of that money was gone. Even when Chuck knew their Father wasn’t a good businessman and was too good a person who carelessly and naively handed money out to everyone who asked, he lay the blame squarely at Jimmy’s feet and him alone. No one else. That’s how much he resented him.
Jimmy couldn't bear to see his father's hard earned money being scammed away on a daily basis. Based on how protective he is, it's logical he will take it since in his mind it's better off at least staying in the family than getting thrown away. Also likely majority of the missing money would have been stolen by scammers and not Jimmy, since Chuck makes no mention of that.
to be fair, jimmy similarly refuses to admit that he had anything to do with it and places 100% of the blame onto his father for being an easy mark, even as he readily admits to Marco that he stole money from the register just for kicks.
Ok theory. But there’s no evidence.
Yeah Chuck assumes the worst in Jimmy meanwhile you assume the best in Jimmy. It might be good to stop making assumptions though
Jimmy stole the money lmao come on
It occurs to me that Chuck is possibly/probably wrong in his story. 14k missing, automatically all Jimmy's fault? We saw for ourselves that their dad was eager to give strangers money out of the till.
Of course the majority of the missing money was from the dad being too nice, but chuck only wants to see it as Jimmy’s fault due to the contempt and envy he feels for him.
Chuck is very uptight and lawful but at the same time he is very emotional and downright evil
@@jadthecat387 Calling him evil is harsh. His perspective is extremely sympathetic given his experience with his brother. From Chuck's perspective, Jimmy stole money from his parents while earning all of their love and attention, while Chuck worked hard to achieve in life while having to save Jimmy from mischief over and over again. He grew weary with Jimmy over time and never expected him to change. It's unfortunate, but not hard to understand. The fact that Jimmy then tries to "cheat" his way into Chuck's profession and his own law firm is especially insulting because it feels unearned and he fears Jimmy will exploit his new position, break the rules, and embarrass him.
@@ForNoOne1 thank you. chuck and jimmy are masterfully written brothers in a strained relationship. chuck isn’t evil, but he isn’t all good either. he’s human, like the rest of these characters.
You never steals nothing to your family, you did and you become trash, family is the only thing you have.
Well considering Jimmy spend the next 20+ years being a scam artist criminal how is that so hard to believe?
Never gonna forgive Chuck for not telling Jimmy their mother's last words
Yesterday I was talking with my mom about the scene where jimmy reads chucks letter for him while eating cereal like if didn't matter at all, and she reminded me of this you say, and honestly, it's a very fair point.
I think he did that to not make Jimmy feel guilty for not being there. If he knew his mother’s last words were her calling for him he would’ve been crushed.
@@xystabb I don’t think jimmy had a clue about what his mom last words were
@@matthewriley7826 You could argue for both good and bad intent either way. Chuck might've not mentioned it to shield Jimmy from the guilt for something that was partially outside of his control; he also might've withheld it out of resentment that she used her dying breath to ask for the son who, among other things, skipped out to get something to eat.
Most likely it was a mixture of both, or perhaps Chuck tells himself the former, but in his heart, he knows it was the latter.
Jimmy doesn't deserve to hear them
Chuck Is easily one of the Best written characters in the Breaking Bad / Better Call Saul Universe
@@eddiediaz5518 possible. Stubborn character unable to admit he needs help, pulls his uppity executive weight when he wants and like with Kim, needed to not view her as a subordinate
That's because Michael McKean could make a Snuff film worth watching if he starred in one.
easy. he's the hero of the story but Jimmy cons the fans into thinking he's the good guy. I love it.
@@BhBc8f8 what?
@@romo2674 With the hero vanquished, the villain Is free to operate with no one left to keep him in check 😈 Welcome to Act 3 of the trilogy, we're in the endgame now
I love moments like these in a show. No music; no flashbacks; nothing fancy: you are just listening to a guy telling a really engaging story.
There's just something so _real_ that a scene like this captures.
Scenes like this become more interesting when you know about Kim's past with her mother. Chuck no doubt thinks he's revealing some awful truth about Jimmy that'll pull Kim towards reason. If anything, Kim may have made to the connection between Jimmy and her mom here and wound up more on Jimmy's side because of little pep talks like this.
Yep she chose a life of crime
what do you mean?
It also helps that he’s doing this more to hurt Jimmy rather than “save” a promising employee.
Rewatching this, after all is said and done, it looks to me like Kim staying in doc review did come from Chuck, and not Howard.
I think he wanted to wear her down, make her see where siding with Jimmy put her, then when she's exasperated tell her this story. If she sees Jimmy for the criminal Chuck sees him as, then she gets her position back.
@@ekathe85Howard recounts putting Kim in doc review in his final speech, which IMO suggests that Howard was in fact responsible for
That look on Kim's face at the end when Chuck goes for more coffee says a million things.
She's finding out about Jimmy,but she's also seeing Chuck for how he is as well.
She realizes too late about both of them.
She knew exactly who Jimmy was and decided to ruin peoples lives with him anyway. She, similarly, felt alive while doing it.
@giannisfan1067 but when they got Howard killed,Kim stopped,quit being a lawyer and left town. Saul kept going and got worse until he ran out of time and luck
"But not our Jimmy! Couldn't be precious Jimmy!"
Stealing them blind!
@@misterairborne654 and HE gets to be a lawyer?! What a sick joke!
@@yourdailydoseofnegativity189 I should've stopped him when I had the chance! And you, you have to stop him! You-
@@misterairborne654 *crickets*
@@yourdailydoseofnegativity189 I apologize. I lost my train of thought.
Whoever came up with Chuck's character and his lawyer and space blanket storyline deserves a raise
I love how the show leaves it open as to whether Jimmy stole the money many times or if his father was just a fool who got scammed a lot, and Jimmy only took it that once out of spite.
This show is so good that they basically turned a character that was basically a joke into a genuinely facinating character
I don't understand. How can Chuck be seen as a joke? Are you referring to his allergy to electricity?
@@visualsforyou7120 he's talking about Jimmy
@@visualsforyou7120 jimmy was a joke of a lawyer is what they mean.
Saul was never a joke in Breaking Bad.
@@leonpaelinck
I think they meant that he was only a comic relief character in Breaking Bad
I always enjoy Chuck’s character he’s just so interesting. Everything he says also comes with the crinkling sounds of the space blanket inside of a suit so it’s as if you never forget what he’s suffering from.
Its curious how Chuck forgets his "condition" when it comes to despise his brother.
He put it on hold to take Mesa Verde away from Kim too.
He’s wearing the suit.
@@Stoirelius previously he was struggling about the lights
Wasn’t it all in his head
Actually it's his concern of Jimmy that brought it on. It was even often hinted up until series 3 that when Jimmy broke bad, Chuck would grip his space blanket tighter. It seemed obvious as time went on, but of course you never know where writing this good was going to go.
When Chuck is confident and feels he has superiority over his brother it goes away.
I know how Chuck felt, not being loved as much as Jimmy growing up. My father left me in a motel at age 6 and I never saw him again. Cops came to pick me up and take me to my grandparents house. 6 months later being with my mom, woke up and she was gone. I went and lived with my grandparents along with my sister. My mom came to get the kids back, my grandparents refused to give up my sister, but said I could have me back. No one wanted me, never knew what I did wrong.
Sorry that happened to you
You didn't do anything wrong. I'm sorry, that's messed up
Sorry man! Hold on you will find a real family, a family you choose and that chooses you! Whenever you wanna talk know that there is love for you in the world.
i remember showing my brother this show, and at the end of this scene he laughed and said, “that whole speech just because kim asked if she had a future at HHM”. i thought that was a funny insight
And shows Chuck’s true nature. Rather than have an honest conversation about her career, he uses his position as her boss to go off on why she should cut ties with Jimmy just to hurt him.
@@matthewriley7826 yup
Chuck is so manipulative. Yes jimmy stole, but his father was getting conned other people which is why he failed. However, jimmy did contribute but chuck is putting this all on him.
yeah, like obviously Jimmy WAS taking from the register, but enough to be accountable for all 14,000 dollars? one kid? c'mon now
Im not sure if chuck knew his father was being conned by other people...
@@cap-ml7ky This
@@cap-ml7ky well his bio states he graduated from hs at 14, and then went away to attend University of Pennsylvania and then Georgetown law school. There’s about a 10 year gap between him and Jimmy so he likely wasn’t present a lot to see how Jimmy was influenced by the conmen that would play his father which would set young Jimmy on his path to become Slippin Jimmy
It’s a great contrast between both Chuck and Jimmy. Chuck has a firm view of right and wrong so he praises his father for his morality and good nature. Jimmy, while he loved his father, points out the flaws in his nature and he understood that they lived in a world where people could exploit it.
The whole reason she was in DOC review is because Kim won't see Jimmy the way Chuck does. The reason he pulls her off DOC review is because he thinks he has made his point about Jimmy to Kim.
Yeah
But if it was Chuck who told Howard to put her there, then why would he say "I assume she is out of the dog house by now" ? Did Howard deliberately leave her there even after Chuck gave permission for her to leave?
I think that the reason Kim was in doc review was because of some phoney "it's for her own good" bullshit from Howard. He saw Jimmy as bad news because Davis & Main vindicated what Chuck had been telling him, and he decided, as he does many times in the series, that it was his personal responsibility to give her some tough love to drive her away from him. He wanted to 'save' her.
Chuck tried to push against it because he understood how conniving Jimmy was and feared that the pressure from Howard would only drive her further into Jimmy's arms.
What neither of them considered was that Kim was a human being with agency, capable of making her own decisions. She was fully aware of who Jimmy was; she simply did not mind. I do not think Chuck ever registered Kim as an individual. As for Howard, it took him far too long to see that she was the danger.
That's true. He's trying to get her on his side.
0:24 He was born without the gene, but he gave birth to Gene.
Clever writing, Bravo Vince!
Underrated comment
Michael McKean is an extraordinary actor. I had no idea before Better Call Saul. Kudos to his talent.
There's this little film call "This is Spinal Tap". You might want to check that out...
@@The_One-Eyed_Undertaker Well aware. Well aware. But BCS shows Michael's range of comedy and drama much more than Spinal Tap ever did.
@@carlrosa1130 or Laverne and Shirley... go back and look at the painting of Chuck in the HHM conference room and think to yourself - that's Lenny!
The personification of good? One could say Jimmy’s father was a “Goodman”
Chuck is either unaware of the full context of the missing 14,000 dollars or he's deliberately stretching the truth.
i mean . . 14,000 bucks all taken by one kid over the course of years? c'mon now.
think about it: according to the "wolves and sheep" flashback scene, Jimmy only took 4 bucks from the cash drawer. assuming he only takes around that much every time, in order to be accountable for the whole 14 grand he'd have to steal from the drawer every day for roughly 10 years WITHOUT getting caught. that number goes down if he steals higher amounts at a time (but given the humility of the business I doubt he'd ever be able to get large sums). the point is, it would take him an unrealistic amount of time to do it as Chuck remembers it.
what Chuck is glancing over (and what is likely more largely responsible for the losses) is all the handouts his dad would give. everyone knew where to get an easy handout.
Chuck is stretching the truth to make Jimmy look worse than he is because he resents him for being the favorite.
I think he was unaware. Chuck had not been present at the store for years. He went to college at 14 and didn't return until finishing law school. It's easily possible he had no knowledge of the handouts and really believed Jimmy took all of it. Instead of investigating more thoroughly, Chuck likely immediately assumed it was all Jimmy due to the aforementioned jealousy and Chuck's preconceptions of Jimmy, so his ignorance still wouldn't fully let him off the hook.
Underrated Comment, nice insight.
obviously he knew about the handouts. Chuck is a smart guy, he should've assumed that even with his father not being a great business man there was no way he didn't notice that jimmy was stealing money without the handouts actually happening. I mean, it's easier to forget 4 bucks missing than 14.
I think that the lack of logic in the Chuck's account is just another proof of how manipulative he was
@aileen wournos except for one important question:
What's really the source of Chuck's resentment for Jimmy? Is it his con artistry or is it the fact that everyone (including their parents and chuck's ex wife) seem to like Jimmy more?
Because while it's true Jimmy has a crooked history, he HAS shown true reformation multiple times. When he was working in the mail room he worked hard to become a lawyer fair and square. He also put together the sandpiper case completely under abidance with the law. He CAN play by the rules. But Chuck refuses to see it. He uses Jimmy's crooked history to justify him constantly holding his brother back, but I think the real reason Chuck wants to hold Jimmy down is because he wants to maintain his status as "the more successful brother". Because the career in law is the one place Chuck had where nobody could say Jimmy is better (remember. Jimmy was better at charming Chuck's wife in the flashback and Jimmy often recieved more of the parents affection despite Chuck being the more highly successful son).
Chuck's justification for keeping Jimmy out of HHM after sand piper isn't even really about his criminal past. Chuck just sees the way Jimmy got his law degree as invalid (even though it super isn't).
As for the cash drawer, it isn't IMPOSSIBLE for Jimmy to be solely responsible for the 14 grand. It's just unlikely, and we see how liberal his father was with the handouts for a reason. The idea that Jimmy is solely responsible for it is a red herring and only a small piece of the larger picture.
Like when Chuck bailed Jimmy out of jail. Chuck did that because even though he knows his brother is not a sex offender, and the guy slept with Jimmys wife Chuck knew he had Jimmy right where he wanted him. He took Jimmy and placed him in the mailroom. Took Jimmy away from his best friend, and wouldn’t even let him see his friend at their mothers funeral.
Calm, rational, well spoken Chuck telling a wonderfully worded story that shows the nature of people, all while the constant crinkle of the space blanket reveals his.
Astute comment
I was thinking that.
The tension and rivalry between these two brothers is so well-written. Chuck is such a unique antagonist.
"My brother is not a bad person, he has a good heart. He just can't help himself."
Jimmy is a good person who does bad things.
Chuck does good things and is a bad person.
Mike said it well, Dirty Cops and Good Criminals
How?
BB/BCS fans have to be among dumbest when it comes to so-called prestige dramas. JFC that take is so stupid.
@@TaxingIsThieving some people do things to seem they are good but in their true nature, they are evil.
I don't think either chuck is a bad person by heart, the environment he grow around with made him one
Chuck's an ASMR king here
1:55 incredible delivery on "Not his Jimmy", lets the resentment slip through for a second
Couldn't be precious Jimmy…
Stealing them blind
And HE gets to be a lawyer?
I find it interesting that the other dimension to this story that Chuck is telling, that he is seemingly so arrogant and oblivious to is...
Chuck Sr was a poor businessman who ran a struggling business but was able to provide for the family just long enough to put Chuck through college before he ultimately went broke. Chuck had already landed himself a career before the family business went under. Meanwhile, despite the work Jimmy put into the family business to, he seemingly didn't get to avail of the same opportunity and privilege Chuck did. Yet despite this, he blames Jimmy for their misfortune and judges him for not turning out like he did. Then when Jimmy ultimately does pull himself up from his bootstraps and aspires to become like Chuck, he resents him for it.
Elitist mentality at its best. In a way, being one-sided and judgemental is what makes Chuck who he is: an incredible lawyer and a terrible brother
@@krypticunlimited6925 very accurate statement there
Wow, yeah. Sure, Jimmy has a history of bad behavior and everything, but it only really got _that_ bad at an age where he would've been at college, right? At an age where Chuck was at college. Hmm.. Well, I haven't seen the full show, maybe there's a story as to why Jimmy didn't go to college that I don't know.
Well to be fair, with Chuck’s brains he was probably able to get a hefty scholarship that offset much of the tuition so that made it easier for him. But Jimmy self admits that he didn’t do so well in school, so he probably saw college as a waste of time and money the family couldn’t afford anyway until later he found a way around it.
I wish we had a flashback scene of Chuck arguing a case. We hear so much about him being an incredible lawyer... it would have been cool to see him at work.
BCS hits so hard for me because my older brother died when I was 18 back in 2016. Makes the show even more heartbreaking for me. Great show though amazing piece of art
Chuck telling that story while sounding like a Snickers wrap is just too distracting😂
Chuck’s anger and jealously towards Jimmy was kind of understandable but he brought whatever happened to him on himself he never tried to be charismatic or social enough to be loved or make friends like Jimmy did and Chuck was so ungrateful and inconsiderate he technically made more enemies than friends with Jimmy, Howard, Ernie, and Kim being examples and like Walt he letted his ego and pride take over him completely and died alone and hated the only difference is that Walt died unrepentant while Chuck died losing his mind from sickness and loneliness
To play devil’s advocate, I’m sure that chuck “tried to be charismatic and social”. In fact, you can see one of those attempts in this very episode I believe. In a flashback, jimmy comes over to chuck and rebecca’s place for dinner. He starts firing off lawyer jokes, which makes rebecca laugh. After the fact, chuck tries to lay down his own lawyer joke. It’s shitty though, and rebecca doesn’t laugh. A clear example of chuck “trying to be charismatic and social” and failing
Saying something like “just be charismatic” is the equivalent of saying “just be book smart”. “Just be a lawyer that’s as knowledgeable as chuck”. These statements all gloss over the fact that social intelligence and academic intelligence are both VERY complex, nuanced skills. In fact, from a certain perspective, social intelligence is even MORE complex than academic intelligence. When reading an academic text and solving academic problems, you have a lot of time to do so. But in a social situation, you have mere milliseconds to start formulating a response. In a social situation, you have to be in tune with constantly changing body language, aware of your own body language, attentive to your tone of voice, etc
Some people seem to be genetically inclined toward social intelligence. If you’re not genetically inclined, then it’s a very tough skill to develop. Just like academia would be tough to someone without genetic inclination. “Just...do it” doesn’t make sense to say
Chuck is still a massive egomaniac though
Ah yes the deadly over inflated Ego'.
What are you talking about? Chuck was as charismatic and social as it gets. Do you think you can survive let alone be a legend in being a lawyer without good connections and friends?
Being charismatic and being charming are two extremely different things, Chuck wasnt a fun or charming like Jimmy was. But he was charismatic enough to instill confidence to people around him, thats one of the traits that made him a perfect leader.
But Chuck's personality was boring to people outside his job, thats why he was jealous of Jimmy. And he did try alot to be like him but as his own words "people never change" he failed.
Walt was not unrepentant. That's one thing Breaking Bad did, was tie up loose ends, emotional ones included. Walt fully admitted what he did to Skyler... because he was good at it. That's be why we're all satisfied with the BB end, because finally Walt was honest, and Walt tried to make up for what he did.
So there's a couple things happening in previous scenes worth mentioning here from this episode, and the one before it, for a fuller context of where Chuck's motivations lie. Howard puts Kimmy in doc review over something Jimmy did, (IMO the details don't matter nearly as much as the motivations do) and Jimmy goes to Chuck to try and rectify this. He offers to quit practicing law, just to get her out of doc review. This reveals something to Chuck, that Jimmy loves Kim deeply, and would do anything for her. This happens in the previous episode. In this episode, the first scene is a flashback to Chuck & his at the time wife Rebecca having dinner with Jimmy, who is making her laugh, while Chuck struggles to. It's clear this causes Chuck to resent Jimmy, for exposing how stale their marriage really is, or for exposing a shortcoming in how Chuck isn't as entertaining or likeable as his brother. Flash forward to this scene, and he is using this moment to try to drive a wedge between Jimmy & Kim the way he believes Jimmy drove a wedge between him and his ex wife. That's his motivation. And it's just another example of how petty and emotionally immature Chuck is, on the same level of Jimmy, but he has power and the facade of moral highground. He has the power to take Kim out of doc review, and to try and manipulate her here by using that power. To say his brother isn't a bad person and has a good heart, while simultaneously painting Jimmy in an irredeemable light, as someone she should stay far away from. Kim sees right through it. I think also worth noting is that right before this interaction, Chuck asks Kim to make him and bring him coffee, and by the end he is so pleased with himself in his attempt to assassinate Jimmy's character, that he is suddenly able to get his own coffee despite his illness. That's how good Chuck feels after tearing down his brother. That's how rotten he is to his core.
precisely.
indeed.
And foreshadows Chuck’s uncaring attitude towards his employees and the firm in general. Kim just wanted to talk about her career, but Chuck used his position as her boss to spin a yarn about why she should cut ties with Jimmy.
"Like he was born without the gene".
Unlike Jimmy, who had it so bad he ended up being the Gene.
B.V.
This is exposition done right
How did Micahel McKean never get an Emmy? He WAS Chuck. He MADE Chuck.
The sound of Chuck’s space blanket suit crinkling while he tries to enthrall Kim with the McGill family history and trying to sound like he’s the only one with clarity is unintentionally/subtly hilarious
I love how Chuck's like, "wait 'till you hear this!" to Kim. And Kim's just, "lmao, whatever ;)" she's the best character and I love her and Jimmy together even if I feel so bad for Kim.
Sorry to disturb you on this fine christmas morning, but I really like the pic of your bunny munching salad/greens. It is simply adorable.
And for bringing sunshine into my heart, I'd like to reward with a small fee for your troubles.
I'd be willing to pay 5000 pesos if you send me a wallpaper poster of said bunny.
I think it will definitely boost morale when I hang the pic over my own bunny stable. It will surely improve their overall mood.
I'll jhst tell them that this is the jesus christ of the bunny world.
Bless you
Yeah but look what happened at the end of season 6 episode 7, that's what happens when Jimmy and Kim start messing around
Well this didn't age well...
I don't understand how some people like her I can't stand her at all
@@blyzer7373 Kim doesn't even appear in Breaking Bad at all, this comment was doomed from the start
Best written show in history, the characters are so well done. My favorite touch was the stereo chuck was playing with his wife was behind him on a dusty shelf in the garbage later, his life, put on the shelf.
I love to hate chuck but can’t deny how much i loved his presence in the show
As far as this scene i love how he immediately jumped to thinking jimmy was the one that did it and yeah jimmy did take some but we also saw in that flashback how he would give money away and how jimmy growing up watching his dad get scammed often created slipping jimmy and because chuck was away he never saw those details
This is insightful into the characters and makes me wanna rewatch the series again
Take a breath ffs. Use periods
@@robertflinch2447 but why lol
Best scene is after this when Kim is clearly shaken by what Chuck said, looking at Jimmy in a different way. But then she hears the voice mail he left of him singing to her, and she falls for him again. Yes Chuck was right he was Slipping Jimmy, but he wasn’t right that Jimmy could never change. He did in the end
Kim is shaken by how Jimmy was right about chuck. How spiteful he is towards him, especially given the scenes prior
Funny how Chuck says that Jimmy can’t change, when the main plot of the show is Jimmy McGill transforming into Saul goodman
Id argue he didn’t change. He just confined himself to a jail cell with wolves so he can’t harm innocent sheep in the regular world anymore
Chuck looks a lot like the lawyer for Jesse's parents. That scene has a whole new dimension when you see what Jimmy went through and how cathartic it must feel to best people like his brother.
Good point I wonder if they thought of that when they came up with the chuck jimmy story
It's little details like this that make you think "is it just a lucky coincidence or was everything intentionally reverse engineered"?
Brothers are supposed to build each other up. Jimmy and Chuck would have both been MUCH better off without the other in their life.
Chuck saved him from a felony prison sentence
@@Palendrome Chuck set him on the road to being Slipping Jimmy. It's not been spelled out for us, like Chuck sabotaging his chances at HHM, but he must have been doing it all of their youth. Chuck has a massive saviour complex, so he needs a villain, and a weak person to save.
@@lenawagenfuehr53 True. Chuck was a petty man who NEEDED someone to lord over to.
@@lenawagenfuehr53 you can’t blame you own failure on others
Very accurate writing
After that Kim flash back we got from season 6, I'd like to think that this is the moment she realizes, that her and Jimmy had a lot more in common than she thought before, they both had a nick for scamming since a very young age.
Man, I've always loved Michael McKean in anything I've seen him, back to Spinal Tap days! Hell of an actor.
David St. Hubbins!
1:52- It’s extremely clear here why Chuck resents Jimmy so much.... in spite of everything he did such as stealing and being a conman his parents always loved him more and refused to accept the harsh and evident reality.... exactly like Kim.......
You can still like someone despite their flaws. Because charisma and popularity can do that too people.
That's why I find unfair that the audience hates him so much.
@@Onmysheet yeah stupid people do that stuff all the time. That is why millions go to the chiropractor or buy organic food. They are easily fool mouthbreathers. That's why I hate stupid people. I highly identify with Chuck and I can feel his frustration.
@@asturianix9820 But Chuck always misjudged the situation. As others have already pointed out, Jimmy may not have stolen that much money, but Chuck never gave him the benefit of the doubt, and his parents may not have loved Jimmy more but simply believed that Chuck could stand on his own two feet and Jimmy needed a extra help, but again, Chuck took it the wrong way.
@@Ratchet2431 You are also right.
This Gilligan Universe has a massive list of some of the best performances ever on TV…McKean shines above many of the other beloved portrayals.
I always love it when a comedic actor stuns people with a dramatic turn. Much like Bob O, you just didn’t know that they had such a depth of acting in them this whole time.
This is such a far more powerful scene when taken in context of the most recent episode. Jimmy, again, hurting people in spite of his good nature.
And Chuck hurting people for no other reason then his pride and ego.
Are you telling me that $14,000 just happens to disappear like that? No! He orchestrated it! Jimmy!
He was born without the Gene?!?
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Jimmy would be a very successful Brazilian. In our country there is a term called "the Brazilian way" or "Brazilian gimmick" which is basically the shortcuts and schemes that Jimmy uses to prosper in life. Chuck can't stand that. What he doesn't understand is that while it's not always ethical, it is one of the few ways poor people manage to ascend financially, at least people who have always been discriminated against by society, by people like Chuck himself. That's why it's so easy to root for Jimmy and despise Chuck.
Sounds like a wonderful country to live in
What makes it a sore spot in particular for Chuck is that he came from the same humble beginnings. To paraphrase something he said to Jimmy, he worked his ass off to get where he is and Jimmy thinks it's fine to take all sorts of shortcuts and compare himself to real lawyers. Chuck takes a lot of pride, not just in the fact that he ascended financially without fraud or other crimes, but in that he ascended in a distinctly, "non-Brazilian" way.
He embraced a very non-humble way of life, wanting to transform himself into the image of upper class ideals. It goes beyond merely following the law, but also cherishing conformity, discipline, formality, and treating your lessers in a superficially polite, yet ultimately condescending way. Chuck indeed became the person who discriminates against people like himself. A part of Chuck's resentment for Jimmy is rooted in this prejudice.
A lot of it is envy because Jimmy has the natural charisma to do things he can't, including thrive in his profession without embracing Chuck's ideals.
@@yokatta-f oh, I live here, there is good parts, but most of the time the country sucks. But he is absolutally right, Jimmy would be very powerful here with his persuasion skills
@@yokatta-f everything up north is not.
Quer ganhar biscoito de gringo, nerdão? Acha que os europeus e americanos dominaram o mundo sendo certinhos? Cai na real, bobão
No mother how much we love Jimmy, this part explains why Chuck was so hard on his brother.
Chuck just knew that no matter what Jimmy will always be slippin Jimmy and that's what happened in the end. Everything slipped from his hands including Kim
Chuck is so despicable but God what an incredibly well-written, dynamic character.
It's hard to create a series that stars some of the best characters ever made.
0:07 describes their dad as “good”
Saul Goodman, making a mockery
chuck did all the talking but kim stole the scene..... her power is astonishing
Meh.
What Chuck failed to mention is when he was in the city, he worked for a firm that developed Mockolate.
Kim is such a beautiful woman
Lol, can say I don’t agree tho
Would you believe she’s turning 50 in a few months?! FIFTY!!
Funny how you could tell that Kim was not buying it, that he was trying to manipulate her; she just KNOWS lawyer speak.
Idk man if 14k over years is putting you under, you're not really in great shape to begin with, can't help that dad was giving out cash to any grifter that came asking
Sorta sounds like Jesse. He's a good person deep down, but he can't help himself, and his mistakes causes people around him suffer some consequences. Combo, Jane, Janes Dad, Plane Crash, Andrea, Brock, everyone at the therapy recovery place.
I'm starting to think Vince Gilligan sees himself as a Jimmy/Jesse...the ne'er do well with the good heart.
@@lenawagenfuehr53 Oh Jimmy is good person but he hurts everyone around him.He destroyed so many lifes.Jimmy is evil person.
Damn nobody knew Jimmy better than Chuck.
To everyone saying that Jimmy is evil and chuck is the good guy. Jimmy tried reddeming hiself so many times, but chuck always saw him as a fraud. So when he becomes saul goodman, he embraces what people see in him. Also chuck feels more like the inquisition to me : so sure that they are right that they never doubt of themselves
The whole Davis & Main part exists to address this and you people still don't get it? Jimmy wasn't happy with being in a very respectable firm, he wanted to be his own man in his own way. Plus, if you still see things as good and evil then you completely missed the point of the series. No one is saying Chuck is good, just that he was right for the most part
@@zekeiwa5837 Not even that.
As far as I’m concerned. Jimmy made reparations for his mistakes in the 10 years he was working and studying to be a lawyer.
Chuck sabotaged him based on his past mistakes because he was a self righteous person with hate in his heart for his brother.
Jimmy wasn't redeemable. Like Zeke Iwa says, the Davis and Maine arc clearly shows that Jimmy isn't capable of living a normal lawyer life, he loves conning and being a showman, which he would have to give up. He had it all in Davis and Maine, company car, apartment, great office with an assistant, all he had to do was be normal, and he couldn't do it.
You hit the nail on the head.
@@verbalkint4258 mm hmm, and you ignore all the good that Jimmy can't help himself doing...keeping the skater scammers from getting executed (and bringing them to the hospital) Admitting to Chuck what he did when he couldn't take the guy driving himself crazy anymore. (Which Chuck tapes as a confession) He gave the Kettlemans money after Kim scared the crap out of them. No, Jimmy's a monster, in capable of decency 🙄
Anytime I watch a clip featuring Chuck there always are people in the comment's defending him, hating him, saying he was always right about Jimmy, saying he himself caused Jimmy's downfall, discussing the dialog, the performance, it's beautiful really.
The way Chuck says "He can't help himself" and Howard says "We are talking about someone who is not in control of himself" have both always stuck in my mind.
I do think there was some sibling rivalry but I also think Chuck has seen the destruction left by jimmy and it often gets confused with jealousy but it’s more of a warming of what he knows his brother is capable of
It's the great tragedy of Chuck's character: he rightly fears what his brother is capable of, but by responding to that by trying to keep Jimmy down, he winds up pushing his brother into the very thing he's afraid of. That's why Jimmy's time machine moment is when Chuck offered to help him with his cases. It isn't Chuck making a different choice there, but Jimmy; if he realized that Chuck wasn't trying to patronize him, then Chuck would have seen that Jimmy really did want to be a lawyer, and may have encouraged him instead. Part of the blame has to rest on Jimmy for not asking *why* his brother didn't trust him, and trying to do more to show him he could.
It’s possible, yet I think he’s doing this more to hurt Jimmy rather than to “save” a promising associate. We’ve seen how Chuck treats those closest to him, unless they follow his every whim he discards them.
One heck of a show. The acting really pulls one in.
What Chuck didn't know is that the only money Jimmy stole from his father was a handful of rare coins that he kept hidden in the ceiling. Where those $14k really went is to the strangers we see in Jimmy's flashbacks that took advantage of his Dad's kindness.
I don't know if Rhea Seehorn should get the credit or the director, or a combination of both, but it really is astonishing how she manages to sit completely still and not make a sound throughout Chuck's speech, and yet you still know exactly what she's thinking.
I don’t know if Jimmy was stealing money from the cashier at his Father’s Grocery.I have seen a scene Jimmy as a kid and his Father was mocked by a man.His father was really naive man just giving money to everyone and for this reason Chuck considers jimmy was stealing money from his Father business.Very genius masterpiece created by Peter Gould and Vince Gilligan.They purely shows the relationship between brothers how they interpret from each other.Let’s say many people have similar relationships with their families.I really admire how it was filmed by Vince and Peter
Very interesting scene given the circumstances as of episode 6x12
It feels like Chuck is warning Kim of the monster she’s dealing with. Sure, Jimmy has a good heart, but he is also completely untrustworthy, greedy, and doesnt mind bending the law to however he sees fit. Chuck knows that Jimmy will only drag her down in the dirt with him.
Which he did. With the whole squatter situation with Acker and bringing Lalo to their doorstep.
@@Onmysheet to be fair with Lalo he didn’t initially want to do business with him. Nacho basically kidnapped him to help them get Krazy-8 to become their snitch for the DEA. After that, Nacho warned him when you’re in, you’re in. So when Nacho tells him to represent Lalo, he admitted to Kim he didn’t want to pull his usual stunts because he knew Lalo was guilty and he was until Mike kinda strong armed him to use the intel to request bail. At that point when Lalo asked him to get the $7 million, he figured I’m in so I’ll try to do my best to be amigo del cartel and get the most out of it which is why he upped the fee to 100k
@@Wolf-wc1js If Jimmy hadn't attempted that scam with the skateboard twins, he'd never had met Tuco, Nacho then Lalo. lol
@@Onmysheet ok now that’s just a big butterfly effect, how was Jimmy supposed to know something like that would happen, plus he told the skaters to memorize the plate, that’s on them for getting the wrong car. Plus you could argue if Nacho didn’t poison Hector, then Lalo never would’ve been north of the border, which was worse for both of them. You could argue the cartel was going to have a civil war if Nacho’s spiked pills didn’t kick in when they did since Hector was pissed over the decision to consolidate transportation of their stuff through the chicken trucks
@@Onmysheet I’d also say that Kim kinda brought that on herself with the Acker situation because she wanted the stunts of Saul Goodman to represent Acker since she thought what her client, Mesa Verde, was doing was wrong. The only problem was she got more than she bargained for when she let the clown out the box and Jimmy pulled a textbook Saul Goodman move against Kevin
People who watch this show love Jimmy way too much. We see throughout his character arc that he's not a good person, he lied, stole, cheated and blackmailed anyone and everyone to get ahead. Chuck is not a good person either, neither is Kim really. Nor Mike. These shows are so gripping because they show us what the world really is, filled with selfish and immoral people.
The Chuck hate is way too strong. I don't know if loads of people watched BCS without seeing Breaking Bad first, but we knew that Chuck was right. We know Jimmy becomes Saul and we see throughout the show that he gets too easily bored and just wants to do what he wants. Chuck did some terrible things to Jimmy, and if Chuck was more of a mentor to Jimmy maybe he would have improved, but ultimately Jimmy could never be left to his own devices and be expected to do the right thing. Chuck is still petty, vindictive, and jealous of Jimmy, but he doesn't trust his brother, and has good reason not too.
The greatest fictional program ever made. IMO
But not our Jimmy! Couldn't be precious Jimmy!
And now you know..the rest of the story.
This is the moment Chuck became a barista.
Was the space blanket really that loud? X)
Good point. Perhaps they enhanced the audio of the tinfoil or was added post-production for the effect. Still it works great
the foil stuff really is, try it yourself lmao it's supposed to be done with like what you can find in a kitchen
rip chuck
More like RIA... Rest in ashes...
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The bitterness and the resentment between words is amazing.
If their father ran a business for a number of years and came up $14,000 short how does he know it was Jimmy who took it all. He even said his father was a poor businessman. To lose a grand a year to poor business practices is very possible, especially if the father gives somebody a quart of milk or loaf of bread or says on occasion says pay me when you have the money and then just forgets about it. Hey maybe Jimmy did take it all but Chuck had only his hatred of Jimmy to rely on. Maybe Chuck was lying to him self, after all Chuck was a P O S .
2:40 Chuck switches emotional gears so fast here. Either emotionally stunted or narcissistically manipulative once he thinks the damage is done.
I love the complexity. Jimmy stole but it was the father giving away money- chuck always thinks worst about Jimmy so blames him for the whole thing.
"I was away at college when he put Jimmy to work there...." No you weren't. According to Better Call Saul's Wikia and Wikipedia pages, Chuck McGill was born in 1944 and Jimmy was born in 1960. Also, Chuck graduated high school at age 14, which means he went to college around 1958. Jimmy would have been negative 2 by then, not having been born until 1960. According to the flashbacks, Jimmy was put to work there around 1972, which would have made him around 11 or 12. This is where we first see him taking money. And the stealing became noticeable when Jimmy was in his mid-teens, which would have been the mid-70s and Chuck would have been in his early 30s. Somebody f***d up with this background story.
I just love that Kim, the person with all the agency in the world almost got his coffee.
Chuck is like a some kind of lord of the law, when he speaks there is an aura of respect to his point of view even if he considered an annoying character.
I mean at this point he is her boss
@@JakeMXZero and that kind of reasoning is why "the great resign" is happening...
This is the moment Kaylee became Don Eladio
When pathological jealousy causes your own brother to attempt to sabotage your relationship with the love of your life. Wtf!
Poor Chuck couldn't see how blessed he was. His parents never told him "the grass is always greener".
Chuck is so serious and his delivery is so strong and sincere but it’s hard to take him seriously when his tinfoil suit is crinkling with every move he makes 😂 this show is crazy!
Chuck sounds like he's wearing Depends when he moves.
It's the space blanket lined suit
Two of the most extraordinary actors of our time.
like this show so much more than breaking bad
“I made mom proud. But jimmy made her laugh”
tragic that chuck sees Kim and jimmy enabling the worst within each other and clearly wants Kim to correct his little brother to the right path because his own deep rooted spitefulness can't let him do it himself but ends up choosing the wrong words which leads to what's to come. And when Howard tries to do the same with the right attitude and heart Kim and jimmy are too far gone into their darkness just to take it out on Howard back. IMO Chuck is not the worst, everyone on the show has huge traumas they fail to move on with but Howard on the other hand was the best of them. And we know what happens to purest characters in brba universe.