How B.I. Survived K-Pop's Cancel Culture & Getting BLACKLISTED!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ย. 2023
- B.I. was one of the few kpop idols that successfully came back from getting canceled and it’s still as shocking as it was when it first happened. stay tuned to find out how B.I. survived kpop cancel culture and getting blacklisted! subscribe to kookielit for more kpop news and videos.
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He deserves the love he gets, one mistake doesn’t mean you’re horrible forever, I’m so glad he decided to continue and push through
Why the hell did I misread it as "he deserves the hate he gets" 😅 I said to myself, damn that's heartless, lol
LMFAO 🤣😭🙏🏼
Frrr tho🫶🫶
agreed with you
BI seems to be really sensitive and creative type of person. And being under pressure in YG to fill in such big shoes like gd, big bang and being leader of Ikon ... He must have carried a lot of burden on his shoulders since he was a traine even before he turned 130, he must have suffered a lot, a lot being lonely and depressed, and drugs and stuff are used mostly when reality is so bad you want to escape it from time to time. BI is a really creative and multitalented guy, it would have been a loss for kpop fans if he didn't come back. I'm very happy seeing him back and successful and getting lot of love from fans.
Those people who judge him harshly should also look at themselves, as if they have never done no wrong in the past and as if they are saints. Everyone deserves a second chance, especially a Sincere artist like BI.
If everyone was canceled for just thinking about doing something that may harm us, social media would cease to exist because we'd all be canceled. 🙄
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The thing is that not all drugs are harmful even, alcohol is so much more harmful but Korean society would rather want idols drink alcohol than smoke weed 🫠
@@Uchiha.Itachii I agree. Also, alcohol is more addictive than pot. These celebs are set up for failure at times. Everyone screws up. The fall from grace is a lot higher when your in the public eye.
I mean seriously he didn't even do anything he thought of buying it and came clean about it too these people should have been there for him so he doesn't have to think about things like that but instead they abandoned him thank God he survived and am so happy for him ❤❤❤
Some facts that were left out: Yes, he really did use some weed thrice in 2016. He also purchased lsd but he didn’t use it. There were already investigations done then (in 2016), all his drug tests came out negative then and negative again when the investigation was reopened in 2019. In Sept 10, 2021, he got sentenced to 4 years probation with community service, medication lectures plus he had to pay a fine. He complied with all of these and is currently on his second year of probation.
I hope this is clear because I don’t want any people saying that we fans are in denial of this issue.
Also, I should emphasize that he didn’t use weed for recreation or because he wanted to be a genius or some sort. He was a teenager who was overworked (barely sleeping, resting, etc) and he thought that it was the only way to feel better. Obviously, he already acknowledged these and has faced the consequences of his actions. He humbled himself in front of everyone, not even blaming the system that made him do it.
I’m glad that he came out of this wiser, stronger, and healthier.
Very well stated
Agree...this comment should be pinned 👍
Sumado a esa presión, ya tenía haters por cosas que el no había hecho, y era un adolescente que recibía mucho odio
honestly, he faced too harsh of a punishment for his "crime." I myself don't like the use of drugs, even for medical reasons, and strive to stay far away from any, but really? All of this for using marijuana 3 times? Three, not one hundred, simply THREE. That's crazy. I mean 4 years probation with community service and fine, along with getting blacklisted by millions of STRANGERS for using a drug that will only harmyourself (initially anyways)? Hell, alcohol is more harmful than marijuana in every aspect, yet they LOVE when idols go live or talk about which beer they'll have with their dinner. That's insane. Yet, they let murders and rapists walk around like there's no tmrw. Smh, they need to take a look at their system and sort our their priorities fr.
@@mara_q9979 I can’t speak for Koreans about their justice system but yes, the punishment seemed harsh. But I’m glad he bravely faced them all and that’s all behind him now. Just like him, I want to move forward. Wishing all the best for him and his career!
He deserves a happy life. Much respect
Yeah he does ♥️♥️💟
Agreed 💯
Exactly
Agreed 🫶
Honestly, B.I’s music producing skills and him being a total ace in dancing, rapping, and amazing visuals make him the most talented idol in his generation. The quality of his music alone, together with the songs he produced for other groups in kpop is no doubts proof of him being an ace, you can’t see any other idols with such talent. His dedication on his arts and works is top notch
I fully agree. He is a pure genius.
So true. BI, the ace of Kpop.
one interesting trivia. he seriously considering quit music after the case but his fans gifted him a whole studio equipments as birthday present during his hiatus and he always says thats one of the reason he decided to stay. hes always been so grateful and sweet to us.
I just discovered his music last year and what I admired in him is how he bounced back higher when he returned. No human is perfect. Hanbin deserves all the best!
a past mistake doesn't define you. He never hurted anyone but himself and has tried to become a better person after it. I think what made his situation different was that people could see the sincerity in his words and lyrics, he genuinely seems like he has a good heart. He deserves all the love and support
Everything BI has released has been top tier since he came back and those who hate are missing out.
Thank you for covering B.I! B.I seriously inspired so many after dealing with hate and blacklisted to finally come out of it!? Mad respect!
The fruits of his labor. No one has the right to judge anyone else. His music brings happiness to his fans, like every person in this world makes it go around.
BI's SUCCESSFUL comeback is due to the fact that he is a total ace...immensely talented and loved by his fans...so much so that some people use his name for clout.
He stayed quiet for the first year or two, except for people hearing about his charity work. Once he started the small steps to come back, he continued to apologize and never tried to excuse his behavior. His songs appeared on Spotify. Big artists were willing to work with him. But mostly, he stayed humble and seem to be genuine about regretting what he had done
He survived because he is true artist.
I respect this man so much. He's the example of started from the bottom and now on top. He never gave up despite the entire country hated him. Thank you hanbin for never giving up you are our hero.
He also manage to break top 100 melon for 2 of his songs remember me and dare to love is which is amazing achievement considering he is a solo artist supposedly under public scrutinize
And that's why BI still is one of the most respected music producer of S Korea...i mean when Big Naughty is on the list of fan boys what more can be said😁
I remember reading a comment who said they can't refused Hanbin's songs bcs its always sound so good😂
His hardwork and his work for music help him survived the hate he get since his scandal, respect to him
I'm happy both he and his former groups are still on good terms despite everything that happen, their friendship is still strong
B.I is someone i really respect and look up to. One mistake does not define who you are.
His love towards music and his hardwork is now paying off. He reached the lowest point of his life, he had to start his career from the beginning, this man did not give up. He did what he loves- make music and never gave up.
Now i’m so proud to say that, he was the headliner of Lollapalooza Berlin, performed at so many music festivals, solo tours, and now sold out shows in Europe too!! I’m so proud of this man.
If this isn’t inspiring, idk what is.
Thank you Hanbin coming back and loving IDs as much as we love you🆔🩷
He’s one classy guy. Just can’t help but admire how he built himself up from scratch. Just worked hard and let his talent speak for itself.
Not gonna lie, I dont know much about him but willing to look him up and see how good his music is. I appreciate talent and self improvement and I hope to become a fan
He's so good
I think for casual listener it’s best to start from his recent most popular song BTBT 👍🏻
@@chihayaayase1299agreed 😊
he's always been that hardworking and talented kid, nothing abt that changed actually. he was just under a lot of pressure as a 19 y.o kid being given too much responsibility to singlehandedly handle his group, that's probably why he needed an escape. even then it's never anything serious and he never even tested positive for anything.
but yeah, look up his music. his 1st album Waterfall is really delve deep into his 2 years hiatus and his mental state. superb album.
He is sooo good.i recommend his recent song called keep me.up
Kim Hanbin an angel with a broken wing, I will always be proud of him. He didn't let those rude and mean comments stop him from growing forward in his life!
He's truly an inspiration to all those with a broken past who want to achieve their dreams and build a better future for themselves.
Tablo, I suspect, provided emotional support having survived his own terrible experience. Good for him. 👏‼
i am so happy to have been there from his rise with IKON and solo, his fall and his rise again. His talent is over the moon, impossible not to like it and admire him
The “fall” was unnecessary. Given the context of how other crimes against women and children are ignored and accosted. For example: in the Netflix documentary about a chat room for s*xually and emotionally torturing female minors, the news of it on the front page didn’t outrage the general public there. Another example: a man trying to save a woman who was clearly running away from being assaulted and then assaulted, while staff looked on (you can see the whole thing in a security camera video) during the Burning Sun scandal, and this man was beaten to a pulp by the policemen who were there, until he had to be hospitalised. Not sure what happened to the lady. The scandal at the time involved dr*ging women so they can be 🍇
This is the environment we see lives one young people ruined for weed.
Things turned out so well for Hanbin... Lets face it, he is one of the most talented and really an ace 🎉
Went to his concert the other day on the Love or die tour, and it was the first K-pop concert in my country (Luxembourg). I didn’t expect so many people to be into K-pop here because the room was full and it was actually soo freakin cool
he was ennemy number one but mostly in Korea where drug scandals are a huge thing but most i fans found the situation unfair considering he had not consummed anything so...yeah his successful come back makes sense, good for him!
Most people who consider the situation over the top ridiculous, and nothing to do with the law at all. Idols are soft target for the police and some people there to pretend like they are doing their jobs.
@@pruitv4Just say you’re an angry Stay and move on, everglowup spoke facts.
@@pruitv4 Funny how you say victimizes herself but then every stay started to act like they were the victim when y’all lost Chans room, blaming JYP, IVE, etc literally anyone but yourselves lmao. Tell me when was she wrong about this whole situation.
@user-dq6wd9lp8f She blamed Chan cus he was wrong? Y’all are creepy for fostering a parasocial relationship, it’s not normal. Chan has already done worse things before all of this, he doesn’t know when to speak and causes controversies to happen (I.e Woojin) it’s only right he gets called out now.
@user-dq6wd9lp8f And thank you for proving my point, that you guys blame anyone but yourselves.
“I’ve hit rock bottom but good luck trying to guess how high I will go. I am hardheaded aiming for the sun.”
B.I - Flame 🔥
It still baffles me that Korea would treat a drug abuser as a hardened criminal and not look into what caused them to trim to drugs in the first place. Most people who self medicate is running from something or have no where to turn. Damn shame😢
This!
You know why his peers supported and continue to support him? Because THEY KNOW BETTER. BI: Fighting!
@@pruitv4 You seriously need to get help eh
it's because he is good at what he does: composing songs
when you're strong at something, people tend to overlook other things
B.I is the definition of "artistic", he like no other expresses himself the best through his music and anyone who listens can see what a beautiful and thoughtful soul he has
Just discovered B.I's solo career this year and I'm now thoroughly enjoying his music. Sigh, I regret not paying attention to Ikon back then. Makes me think, did YG not do a good job at promoting these guys? They're actually really funny and unique, plus their songs are good! B.I is crazy talented and hard working at such a young age. Seeing the old clip where teenage B.I took off to be alone due to immense pressure and stress makes you feel for him. He's truly a genuine and passionate human being. Although it's heartbreaking, him leaving Ikon was a blessing in disguise because he's the reason I'm back on memory lane, now falling in love with group. And I was never into kpop. B.I is something else man. He is rising. Much respect. 🙌
He show how to redeem his mistake in past, he show how to not give up & rebuild his dream step by step, he is really inspirational
I'm going to his concert in two weeks. Honestly, where I'm from, what he 'did' wouldn't even make people blink twice. So I personally have absolutely no problems with him as a person and I like his music.
There are many people, who go through crises, who fall into the glass, even if they have the possibility of getting out, they rejoice in a state of depression, but HAN-BIN is another story to see how it evolved from being in hell, fighting so many visible and non-visible demons , gain strength, strengthen your mind, change your way of looking, thinking, he showed us how you really mature mentally, physically and emotionally. Han-Bin really is a book to show why we see the evolution of a human being. HAN-BIN Life gives you opportunities and you really appreciate them as a treasure that's why I LOVE you♥♥♥♥
So glad things turned out so well for him🥺 The day i found Illa Illa then realising he had been in Ikon made me respect him more. His talent could have been so lost if he hadn't come back🔥 wishing him the best
Bobby comments are backhanded and unnecessary considering the timing. calling a friend "someone you hated" and "bad influence to young generation" on public space is just nasty
B.I just releasing articles on his europe tour, october-nov comeback and his FIRST LOLLAPALOOZA HEADLINER ON ALTERNATIVE STAGE which sadly is covered by articles about bobby comment spree and his past issue got brought up again😢
I could never imagine him to be so vindictive...and now I'm afraid his upcoming release might have untoward references and deliberately project Hanbin in bad light...just to tag BI's name
@@somritabasu2 now you put it like that, it scary 😨 i really2 hope thats not the case.
@@MadDy-ip5mz Seriously i also hope I'm wrong but I just have a gut feeling...I had a lot of respect for bobby but now I feel he is too desperate for recognition. Nobody's really doing it like Hanbin and just mentioning him draws a lot of attention.
Bobby's comments on ig imply that ikon is the victim of Hanbin's "personal choices" whereas its the other way around. Ikon was still under a big company like yg at the time and BI was the one abandoned by the same company and group that he had put his blood sweat and tears. Some subtle manipulation.
There are so many instances that made me think there is something odd about bobby like when they were in SMTM and bobby was showing annoyance because B.I was not yet dropped from SMTM, The same date schedule but different venue in Manila (bobby was a no show) and i think it was a solo song from bobby which i really think there are a lot of similarities from B.I's WATERFALL like the similar outfit and concept like what i've seen from their videos. (Sorry, i'm really not good in explaining)
talent. you can never dismiss talent .
He used to be so lonely. Spent his time on his studio. People who try to make him the bad guy doesn't want to look at this. His focus always for the grup. Even after LS success, and YGE said He would release a solo album, Hanbin denied it and said its not his time yet bcs he want people focused on the grup. With all his sleepless night, and sleep walking in airport, people should knew he doing this not only for himself. People who called him self centered, craving for attention, and doesn't care about other people need to look up about him.
And one thing i really like about him, after his solo debut, he always be careful not to mention the grup bcs he knew media could make his word to something else which could be harmful for the grup. All he did just he said sorry to his fans and everyone. Now, im happy he is surrounded by people who really care and loves him. No more sleepless night, no more sleep walking in airport. And i really want to say thank you specially for Tablo and Hayi who always be there for him. And for Raesung/Millenium who always beside him through his up and down. He really have the best team rn.. With white noise club, shawn and his dance team, and his stylish.. I love this little team❤ and i hope they would be together for long time and be happy together❤❤❤
Thank you for this video !!! B.I. is one of my favorite artists. It makes me sad that cancel culture is so bad that one mistake can take away your lifes work. We are humans and do stupid things sometimes. Now days you are guilty until proven innocent. Even after being proven innocent, people still think you are guilty. It's just sad.
It's a loss of life not to listen to B.I songs
I love him so much. You can tell he puts his heart and soul into his music. In Waterfall & Cosmos I feel like you can hear in the music everything he was going through at the time. He is so immensely talented and has worked so hard to get to where he is now. I personally can't wait for Love or Loved Pt. 2 :)
He deserves to be happy, he put in the hard work . He is a great artist and person.
He's a good person and doesnt deserve the hate he got
I still remember Ikon being called The rookie monster group. 2019 was their peak year. After the scandal many fans left them even though the boys are top performers. Biggest respect for them to continue as the group. Hanbin apparently has been fighting with his own demons back in the past. I’m glad he’s doing good now.
Love this video! I stood by him after the incident because he was in a tough place but didn’t follow through. He has done charitable work, got through his probation, and built a new legacy from the ashes. He’s so talented and everything he’s released solo has been so good imo.
Good for you! I only found him recently and I think people need to talk about his music and his dancing more!
He deserves everything and more, I still feel so happy he didn't give up❤
He didn't deserve the hate, western artists have done far worse . Excited to see him in London next month 😊
Western artist get canceled too.
They also get cancelled for these things however the difference is they're in the west not in korea or kpop
Not just talented, but hardworking and completely humble, us IDs will continue to support our king
He is one of the few idol I admire from the begining...And I will forever ❤
music genius, dedicated and unstoppable Hanbinie
I didn't know about his scandal. I knew him because of BTBT and omg that song is never a skip. So, I can see why he made a come back
I attended his concert a few days ago, and he was AMAZING!
Korean attitudes towards rec drug use is so strange. Alcohol has damaged so many and so much yet its legal.
Oddly, even people outside of Korea thinks alcohol is better to use
I had a discussion with a kpop Stan a few days about about this. She swears drinking is fine, but smoking is the worst thing possible
I'm like drinking causes people to actually commit crimes. You don't hear of people doing harm to because they smoked a cigarette.
In America, you don't even hear of that because of smoking weed
I don't get why people thinking drinking is fine and harmless. It's horrible
It is all about public image and prejudice more than about justice for them.
Cancelling someone for making the right decision of not doing something bad. That’s wild. Korean netizens always got something to say
KIM HANBIN MY KING
He deserves every good thing HE MADE HAPPEN. I will support him until the day he retires. He learn english just bcus for the intl fans, just for being blacklisted AND WATCH HIM NOW, SLAAAAAAAAAAAAAY. Im proudly ID
He's Kpop's Phoenix for real
It's like he lost everything because of that mistake ( he was not proven to take drugs, he just admitted to do it because the prosecutor pressured him) He learned a lot in a hard way.
fast forward he's now touring in Europe and having sold out concerts. Releasing beautiful songs and now having an upcoming global album! His talent speaks! ♥️
B.I. is such a great artist and I support him. I can't wait for his concert next week, cause yes, he probably knows there are also fans in my small country Luxembourg where no korean artists where. I'm so excited!
According to this vid I could not be considered a netizen. When the news of his actions first came out and then the proceeding images of him running off to the Han River by himself I was worried and felt absolutely bad for him. The idol life is an extremely lonely path when it comes to dealing with one's mental hurdles and it sucked that he was caught making an "non idol-like" decision. People who never were, are not, and never will be idols can't understand the specific pains and struggles idols go through, but will themselves have made terrible life decisions at some point in their lives. Those folks could spare a little understanding and empathy. Hanbin puts out quality music, he is still able to produce and collaborate with fellow artists and the friends he had before still stuck around even during the "scandal" which to me doesn't sound like someone who deserves all the canceling and blacklisting he got. I hope his label grows bigger and stronger as well as his career so that cancel culture can no longer affect him.
He deserves to be happy .. I'm proud it
He definitely deserves it.he deserves more hype and success. Thank you for making a video ❤
In my opinion, what Bobby said doesn't intend to forgive him. If you truly forgive someone, you don't use words like "bad influence", "hatred", "abandon".
I believe its a PR STUNT for his new solo album.
Bobby shared his feelings to emphasize with the hurt fans who haven't forgiven B.I bc of the incident. He no longer feels that way. Also, he is allowed to feel however he wants about a situation that involved him
Yes if Bobby is allowed to have feelings involving a situation and express them so publicly after so many years even at the cost of someone else's reputation (using passive aggressive words) then we are also entitled to our own opinions.
Personally, kudos for Bobby for speaking but not for calling BI out. He should’ve just kept the past in the past and not talked about the incident. Should’ve just told the upset fan to let things go as everyone has moved on but no, he had to drag BI’s name n situation out. Not cool.
agreed. so passive aggressive lol
It's really hard to get back on your feets when u did something wrong and people keep criticising u I'm impressed that he did not get effected by people and did wht he want to do he gained his name again bcz of his talent he did not waste his talent and show it to public it means he is mentally strong
Also he did a lot of charity during his inactive times, most of these weren’t even known until months later when some people who were part of the institutions would mention it, he even attended to various charity projects made by ID’s (his fandom) to support the projects and even took hot drinks and other stuff to support the fans and the charities during the project.
I become and iKONIC when love scenario came out and my first impression of them as beings was when I saw their show iKON TV, and I remember thinking that B.I was such a sweet soul, there’s one episode where he went hiking with the staff and after that he invited them to eat and he spoke about his past self and how he realized that he wasn’t acting in the best way and how worked to change things, and I remember being really surprised for him to openly talk about it and accept his past mistakes and work on them, this was many moths before all this mess came out.
After I ended the show I watched Mix & Match and I could see what he was talking about, even though he was having so much going on at that time he definitely but you can definitely see a contrast between both B.Is.
That’s why my heart completely broke when all the scandal happened, I felt terrible for him, not gonna lie, I felt like if someone close to me had died, I was so worried about him that it even affected my daily life, I was terribly sad. This person became so much for me in such a short time, I can say that he was kinda like a safe place for me. I would literally hold on to every single proof of existence from him, I would listen to his demos in SoundCloud every single day and when he finally came back I felt like my heart got restored.
He’s honestly a wonderful human being and he honestly didn’t deserve to go through all this shit, but I want to think that everything happens for a reason.
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He is the strongest artist the i support so much❤ B.I fighting
I LOVE BTBT. I found it by accident on TH-cam and listen to it all the time. He's an exciting artist. Can't wait to listen to more from him.
SAME. I'm sad I found him so late but I'm glad I did. I'm totally into so many of his music now.
This is the story how THE NEXT SUPER STAR BORN 🔥🔥🔥
Thank you so much hanbin for being strong... hanbin inspired me a lot throughout my life..I hope I can meet him one day and say thank u to him
He is always a warrior!!
Raw talent will always keep you afloat. They didn’t cancel anything, yes he’s from S. Korea, and he knew better (even though it’s normal in the US) but mental health issues is serious, and I’m happy he got help ( if he did ), and is doing fine. His music is great!!
still beyond me how people can take bobby comments as "being in good terms"
Thank you for this! I really appreciate that you took time to word all this exactly how it is, I agree all. And the last part of this video... This is how I see BOBBY's messages, there's no room for misunderstandings. Bobby loves his brother no matter what, he forgave as human should and continued loving the boy he grew up with. I hope people out there would watch this and learn how strong and powerful feeling love is!
I can only think of people who've actively been purchasing and utilising dr*gs. Ilhoon, Yoo Ah In, etc., who've been almost wiped from air. But they aren't in the same situation as B.I was. Didn't a bunch of Kpop idols get away with being literal bigots? No consequences to sexism, racism, queerphobia, etc., no? Why are those people not curious about how truly terrible idols keep having a career?
*Deep sigh* I feel like I need to say this. I've been a K-pop fan since a little before Shinee's debut. I noticed B.I after he (as a 11/12 y/o) appeared in the (horribly racist) Mc Mong music video. Then we saw him with other kpop groups like SNSD and 2NE1. Once he joined YG and started training, though, people started saying he resembled G-dragon bc GD and Taeyang had joined YG around the same age as B.I did and then, the expectations set in.
He made a comeback in the industry bc he's a genuinely good person and an extraordinarily talents musician who has gained the respect and love of many of his seniors. Before his scandal, he did his best for iKON at every turn and for the fans whenever he could. HE requested to push HIS solo debut to give iKON a comeback with Love Scenario --- which reinvigorated iKON's popularity to a never-seen-before level. Imagine if he hadn't done that, though? iKON was well on the way towards disbandment bc so many K-iKONICs actively boycotted them in 2017 when they returned with Bling Bling and B-Day after they basically disappeared on tour to Japan for a year and a half. People forget the weight this child had to carry through his trainee years, through Who Is Next, Mix & Match and Show Me The Money. If you'd been him, where everyone kept calling you the "next GD" and you were just a boy with no social life, barely a school and family life, and just completely consumed by training at your company, how would you deal with having to take part in 3 survival shows back to back, 2 which could've ended the careers of all the other boys if B.I had slipped up in his duties as leader, choreography, lyricist, composer, and lead rapper? :)
Kim Hanbin is very talented, he is a good man, he never hurts anyone but he hurts himself. Fans know what he'd been through, we know he is not perfect and that is fine, a mistake doesn't define his entire personality, he genuinely loves his fans and fans love him. He deserve more, he deserves the world. I think some people should move on because he is already moving forward whether they like it or not.
hes a fckn legend, even abt everything. going down to history books as we speak!
Hanbin deserved all happiness in this world, we support
Honestly i love his music , thank god he's doing well and good
a surprisingly balanced reporting.
bobby's post was causing days of stupid fanwar coz reading comprehension apparently a lost art. people took his message apart and cherry picked words to feel offended for, ignoring he said repeatedly that BI is his brother and he can't stop loving him, telling us to give him a chance and support him. if they weren't that close, he wont be feeling hurt or abandoned, it's bcoz their bond was very strong. double b y'all, dont act like it never exist.
and my beloved son BI. i cant even express how proud i am. saying that he changed, well not really, he's always been that talented and a wonderful human being.
why he can bounce back and get so much support? BECAUSE HE'S A GOOD KID with enormous talent that is too good to waste. a hardworking, polite kid that is nice to everyone. his comeback is well deserved.
hopefully GP will open their arms to him soon and he can appear on national TV again. people in korea are starting to get curious abt his news coz he's been doing so well outside SK.
fly high, kiddo. you're unstoppable as it is.
People are stupid. They always ignore the most important parts of a message and use everything else to hate
@@LovelyKissess stupidity on both sides tbh. why can't we just peacefully support who we want to support
@@momogogochew And ignore who we don't. I don't know, but I wish people would think and do better
The fact that western celebrities are so open about their drug usage and Korean celebrities get in a scandal after bein spotted smoking shows us the huge difference in mentalities of both fans and society surrounding them
America is a much more open country. We're also bigger and more diverse. The diversity creates individualism and all of those people have different thoughts and opinions and have the freedom to express feelings
Korea sticks to themselves and don't open the door for outsiders to have a face there and make a change. They seem scared of change honestly. They're too addicted to looking good over actually being good
They remind me of a certain group of people that has their EXACT mindset and it's funny
@@LovelyKissess I agree, in the west fans realize that their favourite celeb is a human that makes mistakes and in Korea if someone shows imperfections and individualism they are condemned and even asked to leave groups etc
@@BruhImAGirl It's not even just Koreans that treat idols like this. Americans/international stans are starting to have that same mindset. And that's nowhere near good for idols
They use to feel free when coming to America. Now they have to walk on eggshells because every little thing they do is being judged from home and outside as well. It's crazy
@@LovelyKissess yeah because American is too much open for everything that makes it a problematic country. And American celebrities even open up talking about their sins over and over again in interviews, shows, concerts etc as if trying to normalize and brainwash people especially fans for things that are clearly wrong, unlawful, and sinful
Forever Stan b.I no matter what
Kfans drop, international fans pick up. That`s how it goes always.
okay i'd like to add a little something.
1. ikon alwayshas had a veru cult fanbase so even if it seemed people hated him, because he didn't actually take any substances and sincerely apologised MANY times we had long forgiven him and we craved his music. his writing.
2. im someone who has watched him grow from ground 0 through survival shows and all his connections that you mentioned were his judges or mentors who were absolutely smitten by him and his integrity. + he had supported lee hi through her scandals as well.
3. hanbin is not the type of idol who gets pre made songs and goes with, he's never been. he records the process from every cling of the spoon to lyric writing sesh to promos and choreographing the dance. we get to see tge entire process and the transparency tied me down with 131 more.
4. he is literally a prodigy.
5. his leadership and stage presence is insane you're bound to stan after one song performs + he's also one of the finest rappers in the industry idc.
Even if he did take any drugs or do what he was accused of, he doesn’t deserve to be cancelled or blacklisted, he didn’t hurt anyone and it’s only drugs 🤷♀️
The problem with that is, drugs are ILLEGAL in Korea. He didn't deserve it, but he would have committed a crime. Idols get hate for far less and people still bring those things up whenever they're mentioned. Things that aren't even crimes
Didn't hurt anyone? Those innocent 6 members of ikon been struggling because of his scandal 😅
@@apkz2862 Lol why are they struggling? many kpop idols lose a member and do just fine. If they can't do that its on them. He s a single unit...there is 6 of them.
He didn't do something that bad yk He didn't hurt anyone 🤷🏻♀️
if anything he has a stronger will than most people, it takes a really strong person to try to turn to drugs during hardships but then deciding not to, i'm not a fan and i didn't even follow the scandal but i truly don't understand the outrage
B.I == Big Intelligence
Hanbin was never hated by his fans, he is loved and fans actually waited for him to make a comeback. I think he’s the only idol i know that people root for his comeback despite his mistakes. Everyone know the pressure he was facing and the stress he need to endure being a leader of Ikon and prodigy in music production, it is understandable for his mistake but what makes it different is he apologize and comeback better than ever. He made a lot of charity works and had been consistently reflecting on himself, such a selfless human being. I remember during his last court hearing, his dad cried and mentioned his sister was bullied due to his scandal, which is heartbreaking. I wish people would be kinder. Hanbin will forever be my bias and I believe his comeback was possible because of his fans. Let him be happy and live his own life. Date whoever he wants and make music whenever he wants. Love always hanbinaa. If u want to know more of his thoughts, please listen to his Mindset series. He talks a lot about his struggles
Unfortunately, many fans left him, and iKON also lost many fans due to the scandal, but some of them returned and some did not
@@mosses_bob kfans left him and were vicious abt it. in general tho all his fansites even those based in Korea stayed very unusual
Because He is a Genius and a good person.
all good except you mentioned that bobby supported him lol. He literally shaded him and called him a bad influence. Hanbin's name is clear already, he was promoting his Europe tour that time but he said that out of nowhere and for what?
And more not only him, 3 of 6 members went to national tv cried and seek for sympathy to the Korean public and you know what they made it look like, it's all hanbin's fault that they're not doing well anymore that their fans leave, and they're nothing without him, but the gp just made fun of them and become laughing stock.
BUT if hanbin can stand and be successful on his own, they should've never blamed him, instead they should learn to stand on their own without him.
I don’t get how these companies can treat all their Idols like crap. I wish they would all stand up for themselves. The companies only care about themselves and the money they make. They could careless about the Idols. I know SK is way different than the US but that would never happen over here. I feel bad for them. They’re people too.
1. People can’t deny his talent and pure musical genius.
2. Co-artists can vouch for his character.
3. Solid fanbase who never lost their trust in him.
That’s how he bounced back. And he deserves all the success he really worked hard for ❤
Edit to add
4. He is still respected because he is literally what an “ALL-ROUNDER” artist is. He’s a singer-songwriter, producer, director, rapper, dancer. And not just good, but reallyyyy great in each category. This man is unstoppable 🔥
B.I has been my fav artist since I discovered “Killing Me” & iKON. I have followed his solo career from the start, offering my love & support as an 🆔 for B.I & his work. Knetz can cancel him cause he has a huge inter fan base & many of his songs have gone viral
It’s wild to me that he got canceled for doing something healthier than drinking.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO! WE IDS REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND B.I REALLY DESERVE A SECOND CHANCE
I’m going to his concert in Sweden October 7th 👏🏻🩷
EU fans, it's your time! Enjoy!
@@jilliet9163 Thank you😭 I’ve been waiting for a K-pop idol/group to come here so I’m super exited
He really deserves his success! So excited to see him live later this month🙏🏼 someone certainly hasn‘t forgotten his European fans
The fact people instantly judged him for thinking abt doing drugs but not why he would even consider it…
It kinda just shows where the netizens real heart is at. They want an idol to hate not to understand. Like have you guys ever noticed how every type of scandal that happens people are quick to judge but never take the back seat and just try to understand the reasoning.
He done the work simple!!
Just read a report about how the fine and upstanding people at YG would often "forget" to give him public credit for songs he had worked on. But BI had a habit of releasing demos of certain songs, so when other artists popped up and claimed credit for his work, his fans would kick up a fuss. Oh YG, this man deserved so, so much better.
Actually one striking difference he has done when he did his comeback is that not just to focus with Korea. He survived by also have a more international presence than Korean presence. I think that has propelled his positivity rather than just focusing on the negativity of korean media. Because not all korean artist has an international presence to be able to survive. One other artist that has this same scenario was Kim jaejoong. Even if he was banned in Korea he survived due to his international presence mainly in Japan and that greatly help his survival. So therefore it's not just talent that will have help you survive especially with all the negativity from korean media but to have a more non korean centric approach to you career will be more beneficial than anyone can think. And mind you yes maybe there are korean fans stuck thick and thin with BI but his international fans greatly help also by being a constant positivity to his career endeavors. So lesson learn. It doesn't hurt to diversified your presence because in the end it might save your life and also your career.
I agree. He was smart and learnt English and collab internationally