*burning sun You shouldn't be surprised what would you say that I've found an account who has a whole post of why Choi Jonghoon is innocent and that the victims were lying😭😭
The fact that people involved in burning sun still have fans is quite crazy and concerning. What the hell is running through these fans' peanut sized smooth brains?
You know what's more weirder? Some crazy fans even spoke that they don't mind being torment or torture or even worse raped because it was their idols That is straight up creepy and crazy
Well not Really. R Kelly still have fan. Yet he is accused of abusing minor. Michael Jackson was accused of being pedophile yet still had fan. Well not counting the other artist that have been accused of all sort of things and still have fan. Not everybody have the same understanding of moral laws. Yet justice law. What crazy too you is pretty normal to other.
@@citamoraplease don't try to justify it by saying it's "normal to others". It's completely disgusting and none of them deserve a career. And R Kelly is literally in jail because he has multiple victims, so please dont even try to bring up that type of justification. Any person who supoorts them is almost as bad as those criminals
@@baoziday5178 I am not justifying anything. I am just saying not everyone think like you and not everyone think is disgusting. I am just stating the reality of life. That doesn't mean I agree with them. But we can not also live in deny that such people are alive.
@@baoziday5178 I think you need to read with trying to understand the point. Your answer disregard everything else I said except the part that it is normal to them. Whoah.please do read it again.
Honestly its kinda to late for them.... seeing the 4th & 5th gen wave.... Not to mention many 3rd & early 4th gen groups might start a solo career it would be very hard for artist who were blacklisted for 5-10years make it big in Korea
maybe not in korea maybe in japan or china if they didn't banned kpop if they been promoted in china and japan have sucessful career in those countries they can just promoted in those 2 countries
The thinks korean stars lose their career for is laughable in the west😂 "school violence scandals" "Drug use" "Dating" "Starting a business" I blame these companies for allowing the public to have so much control over celebrities
Korean society & the culture in general is very harsh and unforgiving as we have tragically seen. They don't believe in giving second chances, minor "scandals" ruin reputations and careers so it will be difficult for any of the idols to make a successful comeback
At this point, the terminated Fifty Fifty girls should also be included in this one because that one was confirmed by CEOs that they wouldn’t take them
Im not surprised these people still have fans, even Ted Bundy had droves of fangirls after finding out the things he did to his victims, becuz they thought he was "good looking" Some people's moral compass are so broken i swear
The artist with a drug problem should be able to come back to work after they rehabilitate themselfs, its a health issue . Now the ones with a criminal act like the burn sun scandal, those should not come back to the industry.
Yuchun and JYJ have been blacklisted so much that is a miracle that only he took substances. He caused only harm to himself and the Kpop industry is shit. They were backlisted for throwing under the bus the slave contract and suffered a lot. Yuchun has every right to return to the industry! The women who accused him were shown to be lying.
Yoochun ad several sexual assault allegations against him. He allegedly raped a woman in a bathroom T club and then two other incidents. His drug addiction is a whole other issue but the assaults sounded bad.
I sincerely hope that Nam Taehyun goes fully sober. They do recover, but they need a lot of support. If anyone has someone close who’s losing a battle, be there for them during the time of abstination
Taehyun seemed different after he left winner and i still supported him in his new band but it's kinda sad he turned to drug abuse. Im glad he went to rehab but he still needs a good friend that will keep him on the right track. Hopefully going back to music also helps
@@baoziday5178 ~ his actual problem is he push away the good people and friends who loves and care about him unconditionally. He's quite bad to face and dealing with his weakness. He's not only need that kind of friends back to his life but also he had to be a better person and try hard to be a respective grown-up man. If he can't valuing his own talent then it's hard for people look at him respectively in a good way.
It depends on what kind of mistake though. If it is a very bad one that has hurt others like with the burning sun scandal then they don’t deserve a second chance.
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj there's evil and than there's narcissistic stupidity. Everyday people have done things that hurt others, picking who deserves forgiveness isn't up to us.
@@waterwitch8902 does that mean everyone should be left to their own devices then? Close up courts and let everyone do whatever they want because we are all imperfect? I definitely think we should be more careful especially with how netizens treat celebrities, also especially in Korean industry as we've seen, but allowing people to live without consequences, when they do bad things especially if they are in the spotlight, that affect others really badly shouldn't be allowed, even more because we are imperfect
@@teenieweeniemimie I mean if someone does something that the laws fine wrong and they pay the fine or do the time, they shouldn't be blacklisted by others and unable to make a living. They have paid the price, that should be the end of it. Those people who want their lives ruined forever aren't without sin, they have no right to judge. Humans make mistakes, thats part of humanity.
In Yoochun case, actually I don't know much about his news but if I look at Korea and KPop industry right now and people who are in his back, I am not surprised if he will comeback asap. Literally JYJ members already get in the same community with people who have more power to take over Korea and KPop so yeah it's just about time to seeing him and JYJ back to the industry. Right now be like, money is the loyalty.
Since I’m not Korean the matter of whether these celebrities should be on stage or not is up to Korean citizens to decide. As an International fan, its up to us if we still want to support or not.
I want seungri to live simple life and normal life and should repent.... for his crime, for ruining Bigbang name, and for ruining their hyung name for not listening to their hyung warning.
Honestly, I think the Korean public does forgive after a time depending on how loved the celebrity was. I can’t remember the name, but there’s this elderly actor who is extremely prominent, and he was caught either soliciting sex from or having sex with a minor. He went to jail and everything, and now he’s acting in mainstream movies and getting roles as if nothing ever happened. I’ve never heard of this happening in South Korea before or since, so he might be a serious outlier.
@@ioutsoldurfavs but she/he got appointment some scandal are just plain ridiculous. But this one too is ridiculous, specially the part it was handle and the sentence some received and other didn't even receive it.
The guys from the sun burn scandal should not come back to the industry
*burning sun
You shouldn't be surprised what would you say that I've found an account who has a whole post of why Choi Jonghoon is innocent and that the victims were lying😭😭
@bethamine03.30 Even if there are some lies and innocent people, there is still a lot of stuff that can't be just put in the past
@hancuddle
I agree with you, those guys shouldn't come back💢
Why not?
@@bethamine03.30did u hear what they said he shared videos...what's your source trust me bro...
The fact that people involved in burning sun still have fans is quite crazy and concerning.
What the hell is running through these fans' peanut sized smooth brains?
You know what's more weirder? Some crazy fans even spoke that they don't mind being torment or torture or even worse raped because it was their idols
That is straight up creepy and crazy
Well not Really. R Kelly still have fan. Yet he is accused of abusing minor. Michael Jackson was accused of being pedophile yet still had fan. Well not counting the other artist that have been accused of all sort of things and still have fan. Not everybody have the same understanding of moral laws. Yet justice law. What crazy too you is pretty normal to other.
@@citamoraplease don't try to justify it by saying it's "normal to others". It's completely disgusting and none of them deserve a career. And R Kelly is literally in jail because he has multiple victims, so please dont even try to bring up that type of justification. Any person who supoorts them is almost as bad as those criminals
@@baoziday5178 I am not justifying anything. I am just saying not everyone think like you and not everyone think is disgusting. I am just stating the reality of life. That doesn't mean I agree with them. But we can not also live in deny that such people are alive.
@@baoziday5178 I think you need to read with trying to understand the point. Your answer disregard everything else I said except the part that it is normal to them. Whoah.please do read it again.
Anyone who is joined in the 'BSS' should NOT return to the music industry and even if they do, the fans MUSTN'T support them 😞
Right
@@Blink_k.k143 💜🫶
just who are YOU to dictate who people be fans of
@@whytedraegon66 right. Even if you hate it yourself, you can't dictate who other people are fans of.
I'm sorry, but when I saw "BSS", my first thought was "wait what did SEVENTEEN do?"...my brain is friend rn, I'm sorry 😭
Let Jessica Jung come back! It's been 10 years!
Some of these people have no shame.
Jessica deserve to be back to Kpop it's been 10 years now
Yeah but she promoted in china now and sucessful career in china.
Honestly its kinda to late for them.... seeing the 4th & 5th gen wave.... Not to mention many 3rd & early 4th gen groups might start a solo career it would be very hard for artist who were blacklisted for 5-10years make it big in Korea
Maybe not in Korea. But I. Other country is not impossible. K-pop is no longer just Korean.
@@citamoraTrue but it gets harder so they should just retire.
@@citamora correct many blacklisted artist that was under sm made like A list level stardom after their moved to china
maybe not in korea maybe in japan or china if they didn't banned kpop if they been promoted in china and japan have sucessful career in those countries they can just promoted in those 2 countries
The thinks korean stars lose their career for is laughable in the west😂
"school violence scandals" "Drug use" "Dating" "Starting a business"
I blame these companies for allowing the public to have so much control over celebrities
Right I think some of them deserve pusnishment you shouldn’t bully someone without being punished
Real, and then someone involved in SA cases can come back like nothing happened 😒 *cough cough* burning sun
Korean society & the culture in general is very harsh and unforgiving as we have tragically seen. They don't believe in giving second chances, minor "scandals" ruin reputations and careers so it will be difficult for any of the idols to make a successful comeback
They don't believe in grace and seconded chance
Wish they'd hold sex offenders to the same standard.
At this point, the terminated Fifty Fifty girls should also be included in this one because that one was confirmed by CEOs that they wouldn’t take them
jung hoon shouldnt come back
Why? What did he do?
@@citamoradid you not watch the video 😭
@@RenzoContreras is he part of sun burn scandal or that something else
Im not surprised these people still have fans, even Ted Bundy had droves of fangirls after finding out the things he did to his victims, becuz they thought he was "good looking"
Some people's moral compass are so broken i swear
Thank you. Someone who finally gets it. I don't think they have moral to begin with
The artist with a drug problem should be able to come back to work after they rehabilitate themselfs, its a health issue . Now the ones with a criminal act like the burn sun scandal, those should not come back to the industry.
Yuchun and JYJ have been blacklisted so much that is a miracle that only he took substances. He caused only harm to himself and the Kpop industry is shit. They were backlisted for throwing under the bus the slave contract and suffered a lot. Yuchun has every right to return to the industry! The women who accused him were shown to be lying.
yes, JYJ was blacklisted because of SM....
Yoochun ad several sexual assault allegations against him. He allegedly raped a woman in a bathroom T club and then two other incidents. His drug addiction is a whole other issue but the assaults sounded bad.
@@ArohaStill They were proven not 🚫 true!
False accusations like that should be punished for sure. I dont know if those women got anything for it, for false allegations.@@FreyaMidnightCat
@@ArohaStill allegedly is the magic word here
I sincerely hope that Nam Taehyun goes fully sober. They do recover, but they need a lot of support.
If anyone has someone close who’s losing a battle, be there for them during the time of abstination
He needs to go to rehab
Taehyun seemed different after he left winner and i still supported him in his new band but it's kinda sad he turned to drug abuse. Im glad he went to rehab but he still needs a good friend that will keep him on the right track. Hopefully going back to music also helps
@@baoziday5178 ~ his actual problem is he push away the good people and friends who loves and care about him unconditionally. He's quite bad to face and dealing with his weakness. He's not only need that kind of friends back to his life but also he had to be a better person and try hard to be a respective grown-up man. If he can't valuing his own talent then it's hard for people look at him respectively in a good way.
choi junghoon needs to retire, and never come back. lol i still remember him hiding behind his mom when a reporter asked why he did what he did.
all of these are so messed up
wait i didn’t know the actor from princess hours was “blacklisted” i rewatch princess hours so often and i always wonder where he had gone
I believe unless you have never made a mistake, you shouldn't judge others. Humans are imperfect creatures.
It depends on what kind of mistake though. If it is a very bad one that has hurt others like with the burning sun scandal then they don’t deserve a second chance.
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj there's evil and than there's narcissistic stupidity. Everyday people have done things that hurt others, picking who deserves forgiveness isn't up to us.
@@waterwitch8902 does that mean everyone should be left to their own devices then? Close up courts and let everyone do whatever they want because we are all imperfect?
I definitely think we should be more careful especially with how netizens treat celebrities, also especially in Korean industry as we've seen, but allowing people to live without consequences, when they do bad things especially if they are in the spotlight, that affect others really badly shouldn't be allowed, even more because we are imperfect
@@teenieweeniemimie I mean if someone does something that the laws fine wrong and they pay the fine or do the time, they shouldn't be blacklisted by others and unable to make a living. They have paid the price, that should be the end of it. Those people who want their lives ruined forever aren't without sin, they have no right to judge. Humans make mistakes, thats part of humanity.
@@waterwitch8902 oh okay I get your pov
Hi kookielit, can you pls do a video on kim woojin apologizing , i dont understan it , you explanations are the best
Can’t believe the audacity
Mickey Yoo chun was really talented person, I really like his all of his drama. But it's a shame he did such a bad thing
In Yoochun case, actually I don't know much about his news but if I look at Korea and KPop industry right now and people who are in his back, I am not surprised if he will comeback asap. Literally JYJ members already get in the same community with people who have more power to take over Korea and KPop so yeah it's just about time to seeing him and JYJ back to the industry. Right now be like, money is the loyalty.
Why don’t they just do something else? Is being in the entertainment industry their only way to survive?
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Jonghoon should never be allowed back in the industry in any form. He’s a predator!
Those name JungHoon has a problem.
What happened to yochun is unfair.His human rights were blatantly abused
Ha
Since I’m not Korean the matter of whether these celebrities should be on stage or not is up to Korean citizens to decide.
As an International fan, its up to us if we still want to support or not.
I want seungri to live simple life and normal life and should repent.... for his crime, for ruining Bigbang name, and for ruining their hyung name for not listening to their hyung warning.
Honestly, I think the Korean public does forgive after a time depending on how loved the celebrity was. I can’t remember the name, but there’s this elderly actor who is extremely prominent, and he was caught either soliciting sex from or having sex with a minor. He went to jail and everything, and now he’s acting in mainstream movies and getting roles as if nothing ever happened. I’ve never heard of this happening in South Korea before or since, so he might be a serious outlier.
I think you are talking about the ahjusshi in squid game.
It depends on what they did though.
I am sorry but Yoochun should be allowed to return. His story is really complex and he died his hair back then because he had a comeback lol
Korea is too sensitive tbh. People r just straight up snowflakes
Wtf there guilty they shouldn’t have careers ppl aren’t sensitive ur the problem 💀
@@ioutsoldurfavs but she/he got appointment some scandal are just plain ridiculous. But this one too is ridiculous, specially the part it was handle and the sentence some received and other didn't even receive it.
It depends on why they got blacklisted. If it is was drug use then that is more forgivable then raping and assaulting women and hurting others.