The Disturbing Revelations of TXT’s Pre-Debut Shock Fans!
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Ppl forget that txt were trainees when BTS was not that BIG. Theyve said themselves they experienced bighit before the rush of BTS money.
no fr, they struggled too in that old, low-ceiling, run down bighit building 💀💀
I feel so bad for them that they were called "bts little brothers" and had all their hard work discredited bc they just so happened to be under the same company as bts
@@adriannep3547yes..txt members themselves said it
100%, TXT has juniors who had a much more smooth ride, Yet TXT are treated like They were eating scones in malibu waiting for debut
I agree
People often overlook the fact that they were already trainees and preparing to debut long before bts hit it big and hybe was a thing. They too experienced hardships and struggles to be where they're at today, but people refuse to acknowledge it. Now that it's been revealed, I hope no one will discredit their hardwork ever again
exactly, yeonjun trained from 2014- when bts were just making baby steps into the industry
Funny thing is that they never say this about anyone under yg, sm or jyp… it’s always TXT that gets caught in the web
ΜOAs will always be with them and never discredit their hardwork 🤛✊💜
I’m a moa myself but to be fair, BTS already sold 300k copies of HYYH Young Forever within the first week of presales, which was still in 2016 when 4 of 5 members started their trainee journey🙈 But yeah, other groups from other companies that aren’t small/unknown do have this kind of advantage aswell. I’m not saying TXTs success is only because of their company, I’m saying BTS for sure was already successful short after most of TXT members joined the label.
i never knew that omg
TXT has to be one of the most humble and good mannered groups despite all the things they go through ,some of the things they go through are just so messed up
Fr, TXT is one of the most unproblematic groups out there, they are such well mannered people💙
And they are very mature about it since the very debut. Sharing their reasoning behind not letting bashing comments change their heart. 🩵 I'll protect them forever ✨️
THIS!!
Yes!!! If i was a member of txt i would have left
They literally worked hard every day and people are saying "bts little brothers" "they're success is from bts"
And the constant pressure from people to keep up with their seniors
Its like when your sister is a topper and your relatives starts comparing with her i will just leave txt and join some other small company group
Mizo MOA❤
as a moa who was already there during the rain of hate in their debut year, i'm just very happy that they're doing well and kept on performing with so much passion despite how nobody believed in them before. they deserved everything they achieved rn and also even more in the future.
^^
As a MOA who has been watching txt since eternity era ..i knw hw much they went through to b where they are today. Not everyone can understand it unless u follow their every content very closely. One more thing Bighit never released any predebut stuff from txt bcz it can cause trouble for BH. Txt has endured way more than people know. They've always jokingly indicated that they had a very hard time n its not even 5% of the experience they actually had.For instance yeonjun n beomgyu read a comment once bighit slave n soobin said they are slaves too. If people know how to read between the lines they would know he was being honest . Even during their debut era they were so controlled with their words. Txt never shared their story even when MOAs tried asking them their predebut stories. Even if they're sharing some stuff now i know its not for sympathy. They feel comfortable enough share a bit of stuff.
Fr
True, but I don't know why people would think that way, because even in the other companies trainees have a tought time untill debute and still a lot don't make it.
As we alredy know there was another group that, I think, had the same potential as BTS, to make it just as insanly and have such reach as BTS, but they never even got to debute (the line up was of geniuses in their own field, with their own fans, and they worked together well but the woke culture and stupid people killed their chances). Trainee A
True the hate train on so may platforms who hated them and called them nepo even though they don't do this with others like. All the hate was seriously way too worse
No wonder why Yeosang and Wooyoung left bighit... I feel so sorry for txt boys, they did amazing work, they are amazing artists. I hope they are treated better right now
Yeah that's likely the reason wooyoung and yeosang left. But also knowing how bad some people have it makes me wonder, maybe kq is really a good company even at the beginning. Because the members seem to always say things like kq is the best company. I doubt that it's some propaganda they are forced to say i genuinely think that this agency treated them good even during their trainee day for them to think kq is great especially when they see how people are treated and the unsafe conditions they live in other companies
didnt one of them say that they left because they wanted to debut quickly and they already knew that they had no chance to debut in bighit so they left. and the other one followed him so they could debut together? or else yeonjun who was a part of their friend circle would have left too. yeonjun was already set as one of the trainees to debut.
@@mindymins yeah they said that, but we never know The truth, it could be exactly what they said or something different
@@mindymins Yeah, Yeosang left, and Wooyoung followed him
@@mindymins I do not recall them saying that.
I do know Yeosang said in a live another trainee was constantly blaming him for things so he didn’t like the path it was going. He was scouted by many other agencies and settled on KQ. Wooyoung at BH said if we fail we fail together. If we succeed we succeed together. KQ is a good company, treats their artists like family, Maddox and Edenary. The CEO attend their overseas concerts, have dinner with them and gifts them expensive bday gifts. It’s destiny the 8 boys found each other.
The fact that most trainees go through stories like this, but still debut with a smile on their face just shows how determined they are to achieve their dreams and success, although I'm not saying every trainee deserves to go through the hardships they went through, being a trainee in any company is hard enough without any additional stresses, hearing about the poor living conditions and health hazards are really scary, just because they are trainees does not mean you get to treat them as if they are less than human, I hope future trainees of any company get to debut in a safe environment in the future.
Look, this is all nonsense. This channel gets their info from snippets of their vlogs. All of it is done in Korean and let me tell you, you're just feeding into the BS.
No one is being enslaved. All kpop idols especially of this level absolutely love what they are doing. Stop applying your lower western standards on Koreans. Koreans
love to work hard, we understand that that is the only way to achieve our goals. Koreans are highly competitive and trying to be the best is the only fuel we use in life. It is a choice. Also culturally, saying things like "it's hard, I'm so busy, tired, we had to work endlessly, etc. are all bragging words for Koreans. That's how we get respect from others. If one is not busy, not tired from hard work, is doing nothing, then, others will look down on you. Hard work means you're chasing your dreams, you're being responsible, you're doing something right in life. Koreans really greatly admire that. We loathe people who are lazy. Furthermore, when they talk about seniors and the relationship dynamics, it's their way of expressing respect. To "fear" or feel a certain way about their seniors is to say that they really respect those who have gone before them and have paved the way. It's a cultural way of keeping oneself grounded and humble. So chill people.
TXT worked and work hard because they have dreams and goals and they absolutely love their lives and would not change it for anything else. No one is holding a gun to their heads. They're rich, famous and super happy. The only thing that makes them unhappy are the haters on SM who spread crazy rumours.
And as for our military service. Except for the occaisional wankers, all Korean men are proud to serve in the Army. Korea does not have mandatory service because we like war, we have an army because we are still technically at war. For thousands of years we have constantly been invaded by our neighbours, japan, china, n. korea, we have never invaded anyone in our long long history. Due to this, we must maintain a certain military presence just to keep our nation and people safe. For a celebrity it's nothing because once they're done they get to go back to a mansion, fat bank account and job that they left temporarily. For the average young male, once done, they have to start all over again. Sometimes, to no home, no job and no money. So stop all of this nonsense about "poor kpop idols". They're just fine, more than fine. If they don't like it, they can quit and find something else to do.
If you really care about them, you'll stop this nonsense and support them for their hard work and what they offer to the world. Geez!
@@pakhyun3777 There are also many, MANY Koreans committing suicide over the pressures to succeed or feeling as though they've failed. This is NOT a good mentality, stop pushing people past a breaking point.
@@katie5920tbf it's their choice and we shouldn't force western mindset on them as eastern/asian countries have authentic cultures unlike some countries I won't name. As for su!cide rates, I think every country suffers from one thing or another and we should respectfully leave their matters in their own hands because it's not us winning their breads.
@@katie5920 That sort of thing happens everywhere and in all aspects of life. This video was about TXT, not some other group working at some small seedy company. There are bad people everywhere and of course they're also in Kpop. That's a given. Use your critical thinking, should be learning that stuff in school. It also goes both ways. Those seedy, creepy companies exist because there are desperate people who will do anything to become a star but sorrily don't have what it takes. If they had talent to start with, they would have auditioned for a better company with credentials; someone would eventually see them. The size doesn't matter, what matters is the people who run those bad companies. Like I said, it goes both ways.
When you bad mouth and spread rumours about, in this case TXT, then you are basically bad mouthing the closest people in TXTs lives. This video is basically saying that HYBE and their staff who also work night and day to make TXT members look their best are slave drivers. Are you kidding me? Like BTS, TXT love their staff. Besides their families, their company people are the people they love the most in this world.
And you do realize that TXT members parents and families who love and care for them. You think that their moms and dads are just going to sit there and watch while their sons are enslaved? Please. Their parents entrust their loving sons in the care of HYBE and other companies knowing that this is what their children want to do and that they are being well taken care of.
You think Koreans are so stupid and that's why the number one job young Korean children aspire to get one day is to become a Kpop Idol. If you have nothing good to say about Koreans then go and enjoy something else like Jpop or China pop. Let the rest of us enjoy Koreans and what they have to offer.
Dude idols don't debut bc they put kpop industry on a pedestal but bc they have idol debt that they owe, so even if they don't like the system after experiencing it they might feel pressured to debut
TXT case is extremely unique imo, they debuted like a big company group so people only got to see their good days but they trained like a small company group with countless hardships. I mean people don’t acknowledge that, at least BIG3 and even most HYBE 4th Gen idols had safe trainee atmosphere and facilities except TXT
txt are one of the hardest working kpop groups out there, and their training period isn’t anything easy either and even now I feel that they’re being overworked sometimes especially with having a 3rd comeback this year, but nobody should discredit their hard work either because it’s unlikely that anybody else would’ve endured that much
They haven't stopped working since the Freeze album. Like no vacation break they finish something and are quickly in the booth recording and practicing. 💔
That's why my support has grown larger and larger as each passing day. 🩵
Even on suchwita, suga clearly said how txt used to train in the small area, & there was a time when both groups used to practice in one room.
TXT had it very had, when they were trainees, bts were not big too, bighit was having a hard time too, BOTH GROUPS DESERVE WHAT THEY ARE NOW AND BOTH ARE SELF MADE.
BIGHIT INDEED CHOSES GEMS
It's honestly scary... what trainees go through to become idols...
This is honestly heartbreaking and the fact that people were hating on them when they debuted saying they’re privileged and all they when they actually worked hard and went through hard times
They actually are privileged. No one said they didn’t work hard, it’s just that they really did get a TON of support from army. There are SOOOO many other trainees that go thorough the same things.
@@Anne_Anna21 I know but people kept saying they’re only famous bc of bts and discrediting them if you were there for when they were doing predebut blogs and when they debuted you would know
@@Anne_Anna21 you say it like other groups don't get ton of support from their senior groups or their affiliation to their companies lol
@@Anne_Anna21 Stray kids has privilege as well and got a ton of support because from Twice and GOT7, Same with Enyphen, same with Treasure and all the Blackpink fans in YG, and same with NCT dream with all the NCT fans and EXO. Its happens in all the Big 4 companies.
@@kembo1869Except Stray Kids didn't sign with an overseas record company until two years ago- three years ago. As soon as TxT debuted they signed with RR. So no Stray Kids didn't have as much privilege as TxT because they struggled up until God's Menu era. One thing is having support, but TxT did have privilege and they talked about it and acknowledged it. Which is good of them, it shows they're humble. Even with the privilege they still worked hard, it's not to say they didn't, but if they’re hyperaware that they didn't struggle like other groups you should be too.
These stories are not specific to TXT unfortunately. I’m glad they are able to speak about it now and continue to spark change in the industry… not every idol get through the harsh environment to reflect on it.
.Wont be any changes, regardles of who talks about it. how you make changes is if after those conditions, everyone leaves from the company and they cannot create groups because nobody is willing to accept that type of treatment and then is when they'll make changes. Not even when trainees or idols off themselves you see any changes.
True, they don't need to leave company to make a change. The calling out it and not following the rules is already enough
Thank you for covering this topic. TXT faced lots of hardships and challenges to be in the debut team.
I swear to god, when TXT first debuted, people forgot that privilege was already abundant in the industry even before 4th Gen. SNSD got privilege from SUJU, 2ne1 got privilege from BIGBANG, hell even NCT and STRAYKIDS got privilege from their respective companies .. even AESPA and ITZY! What made me angry is that none of the people even considered hating on these groups even though they had immense privilege from their respective companies but all of a sudden, a group of 5 young boys get hate from the same privilege that every trainee now has? It baffles me how there are so many hypocritical people on the world
Because they are juniors or world's biggest boy band 🙄😒
@@Yeonjunsleftbutt so? almost all of the aforementioned groups from the BIG3 Companies have the same privilege? they literally are on diamond pedestals vs TXT
@@kairokimurach dude I'm not hating on txt.. I'm moa to 😭 I'm saying that haters said these things to txt because their favs are biggest boy band in world so more famous group then more hate
I love TXT so much. They are so hardworking, talented, well mannered and have no bad songs in their entire discography.
P.S - I love Moas too
Their integrity and care for their craft is truly beautiful and I stan that passion forever 🔥💯
@@layna6330 Definitely
It's no wonder both BTS & TXT are super hardworking perfectionists that are workaholic because of their experience. But that doesn't justify the horrid condition of their trainee days.
I would be terrified if I was just a kid who was doing my homework and some older dudes told me to "come outside".. It makes me feel so disgusted how fans still to this day tries to convince everyone that bighit is a "good company"
Maybe they're talking about the money they pay to their artists. But no entertainment industry is pure and innocent, there will always be something they don't want to show.
I tried to argue this exact point but Hybe loyalists went feral upon hearing it, they are just delusional atp💀
@@BELIEVER78989why are you talking about HYBE?
@BELIEVE78989 The Hybe of today is very different from the Poor BigHit from years ago when it comes to facilities to aid and house the trainees....Ofcourse no entertainment agency is pure, the trainees then and now still goes through tough, inhumane and questionable ways to hone their skills as artist....We many not agree, hell they may not even, but in some sense....it seems to work at the end.... also please to remember no one force these young people in the first place to become kpop trainees, many saw the situations before hand but still stayed with hopes of working hard,endure so their dream can be realised which is the debut...Yall think it would be easy, which part in life is easy when choosing the career one wants to do???
Dude that's the OLDER trainees not the teachers themselves. Other than that I understand that Hybe ain't all that great at the end it wants money but trainees now have better facilities since obviously they aren't in the old Bighit building anymore.
I actually find it impressive that txt has still gone this far. When you debut as rookies people don’t expect much but when you’re the next group debuting under one of the labels that has one of the biggest KPOP groups theres a whole lot of expectations. Still TXT meets those expectations and i’m so proud of them ❤
I feel like people forget that TXT was in the agency the same time BTS was not that popular. Plus even at debut, they didn’t have “instant success”. They suffered just before their first comeback and Yeonjun had to watch all his friends debut when he was left. Soobin’s story is just disgusting. He had only a small snack and they scolded him. I just hope people realise that BTS is NOT the reason for TXT’s success.
BTS play big part tho still, even TXT said
this on Suchwita, BTS may not been
that Popular back than to play a role
for TXT sucess, but BTS still help hold clue for Bighit Company to, you got to think about that with out BTS do you honest think TXT would made it in Bighit while the Company almost went bankruptcy think about that, they would be no Producers, no more trainees, no TXT if Bighit went bankruptcy thanks to us Army's who paid money to see our boys BTS performing and holds Bighit together, before TXT debute even or training,
And, You want to talk about TXT had it
hard and suffering tried live with 7 boyz in one room, tried Hustle money on streets being hungry ever single day suffering in pain, and being over work in pain feeling so weak tiring with broken leg or broken arm performing infront of live crowd around tour and get scold at not only trainees teachers, but the mangements, and getting bully hated by Haters online mostly everyday, and having some your Peers let down on you because you came from a small Company, not mention get block by not gets no invited into big Korea Tv shows, that you have make your own TV shows like Run BTS, The Soop, Bon Voyage, Gayo, Rookie Kings, this happened before any Kpop groups has their own TV shows, remember BTS started it first on TH-cam, having their own group TV Korean Kpop shows, before any Kpop groups because back than most Kpop groups will go on Korea big shows, not having their own Kpop group shows back than, until BTS who started it first, than other Kpop groups has starts having their own Kpop group shows like EXO, NCT, Blackpink, Twice, TXT, Enhypen, Stray Kids after BTS did it first making their own big bucks, and so on, So yes BTS has big part, thank you.😂
@@Xstarzones2you don't have to compare BTS and TXT. There are many stories of each group suffering before debut. BTS definitely helped promote their debut, but being a trainee was never easy. We don't know all the details, but I wouldn't pride myself in my group suffering more than another. But after debut, TXT had to fend for themselves. It's so silly to fight over who has it worse. We should just find ways to stop trainees from suffering so much, not finding pride in it. You weren't BTS at debut, I also wasn't TXT. So trying to fight their experience as my own isn't logical. I understand how much BTS and ARMY helped us and I love that! But it's best not to talk about who has it worse because it starts encouraging actual antis of TXT. But I agree with you
@@Xstarzones2 Actually when TXT just debuted, that’s when BTS ver recently started taking off. Yes many people found out about them through BTS and at first, a lot of their fans were Army but now TXT is a week established K-pop group who no longer are known as ‘BTS junior group’. They now have fans who are NOT Army. So although they were recognised from BTS at the start, they no longer rely on BTS for their fame and people discover them in other ways. And the achievements you’re highlighting are applicable to ANY K-pop group not just TXT. Yes BTS made K-pop globally famous but they did not make TXT famous. TXT did.
@@soobread I got goosebumps while reading this, Well said Moa 👏
@@sand_hanitizers Thank you!
TXT is coming back with a full album "FREEFALL" next week on Friday, october 13th !!!
FRIDAY THE 13TH???????
@@xiba8703 yeeppp
They gonna make my Friday 13th great 💪🩵
I'm a big fan of Chasing That Feeling!
Now i can proudly say txt deserves the love they are getting rn and much more!! They are the most humble and kind idols and i love thier relationship with staffs 💙🥺
As someone who used to be an army like seven years ago and was here with txt since debut, I absolutely HATE that people always put the pressure of being “worse than BTS” or “not worth it” or worse. My boys were always absolutely adorable talented AND HARDWORKING. I have seen them grow up (same as I did see bangtans grow) but this was totally different. The moment I saw them it was way different than when I stanned BTS as a kid not knowing anything. With tubatu I look at them with knowing eyes, and I feel better connection with them. People forget that bighit wasn’t always big. I remember times when namjun used to do lives in the old studio still in glasses and knowing how jimin starved himself and others went through hardships too I only assumed txt weren’t “born to silver spoon” which I hate cuz they totally deserve better but they all did, even bangtans but there simply wasn’t enough money to make it easier… in conclusion I really despite people complaining about how “easy they had it” “debuting in million company” I hate it. I feel like it must have been even harder having so much pressure on their back knowing how toxic people are yet still making it big. I am so so proud of them and so proud to be MOA since debut
It must be so scary for them I'm happy to know that they overcome all the difficulties and achieve success and yeah traines days r always hard for idols
TXT struggled along with BTS that's why BTS treats TXT differently. TXT is the only group that BTS openly supports and mentions on broadcasts.
That’s true tho
I didn't need shocking revelations to know TXT didn't have a smooth ride, i recommend people watch any interview of them talking about the time periods they joined the company. But this is still so sad, Whats even sadder is that They went through that, Yet some still treat TXT like They invented the concept of privilege, Like only TXT doesn't deserves things, Quite frankly it makes me sick. Like you would think TXT got away with criminal charges or something based on how some people hate on Them. In Kpop, people really need to stop jumping to conclusions, Its why some idols get kicked from groups unfairly, Because too many people assume something & accept it as if its canon. TXT has been open in acknowledging Their privilege & worked hard to ''earn'' new fans after the bandwagon fans left. TXT deserve All the love & respect They receive❤
I really still don't understand some peoples hate for the TXT members, Like its one thing if You don't like Their music but what has the members done to receive the hate They got, Some people use The fandom as an excuse, But that's also not an appropriate excuse, Because the nature of Large Kpop fandoms is to have a lot of normal fans & a good bit of toxic fans. If I have a bad encounter with another fandom, that's no reason for Me to actively despise Their group
Apart from the conditions before the debut, after txt received a lot of hate for no reason, it is very sad, they are very sweet and talented guys who always seek to improve!!!
Txt are the most humble boy group out there, or at least one of. Anytime soobin gets any type of praise whether it’s his singing, leadership, etc, he literally will burst into tears or will start tearing up. They all worked extremely hard
Hueningkai is only 14 that time :(
I could never figure out why anyone would want to become an idol. The training appears quite extreme. And that doesn't even guarantee debut.
And most often youre longer in the torture than the actual spotlight. Only a very few idols become celebrities.
And when you do debut, you have the delulu fans and haters to deal with 🫣
A lot of idols have actually said that they became idols so they could earn money to provide for their poor families..
@@yasminchan7425 Jesus. And that's even more tragic...
Why would anyone become a Doctor ??....A fireman???...
an Engineer??? a Soilder?? A KPOP IDOL... etc....Mostly it's the aim to have a successful career that makes good money, even great money to provide for one's family and self.... Kpop Idol is just another form of job yall which has its own version of hardships and difficulties to endure....all those idols made the choice to enter the industry....some thought it would be easy and ignorant about everything within the industry, other knew what they were getting into....but when one ask themselves or others why anyone would become a Kpop idol...then ask everyone in this world, why do they work then....
Thank you for letting us know this
I just cried watching this, recently i have spotted many toxic stays snd armies who said that txt is only famous becoz of bts idk why seeing this made me cried i love these boys so much. The hardwork,the blood and tears they have put in the past I just want them to be Happy cause they also made me happy in my hardest time!
Let's support TXT forever and ever!
This video talks about TXT story.. but it resonates with other idols as well.. every group has their own struggles n this industry is extremely tough to get into.. n ya like you said some toxic STAYS n ARMIES, I have also seen a lot of toxic MOAS belittling hardships of these really determined groups😊
@@kayCee78689 ohh that's really bad !!! But thanks for letting me know about toxic moas have a great day
Tbh I've seen many Stays, Moa and Atiny clashing off with each other. I guess their situation is the same as Armys, Exo-Ls and Blinks.
@@tbakhalid4781 not that much stays moas and antiny are much better than armies and blinks but who knows
Hueningkai had his own electric shock story too. Although it wasnt almost fatal like Taehyun's, he was shocked really bad as well and stayed very pale for a long time
Txt have never spoke their hardship honestly. These things are only less percent of things they experience for sure. Txt once joking said they danced for 16 hours non stop.. Like 16 hours is crazy.. Taehyun even said he never felt real tired after that. Txt has never talked or address their hardship in serious way.. They have always talk minimal as well as a joke.. Which is so heart breaking.. They are humans. Wtf these staff the label is.. They are literally the worst
It's so sad to know this because when txt debuted i was still in high school and seeing them always made me so happy, even in the predebut i was already Taehyun biased and i used to write anything about him and how much i loved him. So it's really really sad
God I feel so bad....imagine going through that much and still smiling 😢
Our precious TXT 😢
txt really doesnt deserve this major hate train .they deserve better:(((
Hate ? I think they don’t have hate now
@@Vidaminhavidadura well if only u have been in kpop stan twt u will know what im talking about
@@yumii304 but I’m on Twitter… and among kpop groups… txt are ok, they are not the pushing bag of kpop
@@yumii304 im not saying they don’t receive hate, I’m saying it’s not that bad compared to others groups
@@Vidaminhavidadura um then idk .i was just saying what im seeing on my twt feed . its ok :))
My heart goes to the trainees that went through that and still didn’t get to debut :( I’m sure this is still happening
Txt have been through a lot and they are one of the most hardworking Idols I have seen. They deserve all the success more than anyone else. I love them❤
txt really exceeds expectations, i love them
It was literally destiny that TXT be composed of the humblest people. So if you hate them, your just hating their efforts to put a good performance.
HYBE is not poor now but back in 2015-2017 when txt joined bighit it was struggling, after that BTS blowed up and made Hybe big as now today
TXT saw both struggling and success of Hybe
TXT, ENHYPEN & &team still trained in that old dungeon.. Heeseung says that Be:lift lab had a very small/uncomfortable practice room . Heeseung says that They trained in Bighit while Ni-ki and other trainees trained in Be:lift lab..
@@bella-hi4oo the only artists who know 8-8 the worst practice room are txt and bts
@@user-uz3jg9kc7p You really do forgot that BTS and TXT have a better practice room than ENHYPEN..
I can't believe the comments that I'm seeing. Just because Idols share some negative experiences doesn't mean they are just "complaining" and adding that others also face hardship too. Like duh, of course, everyone experienced hardships, and with hardships, there are also complaints. Like you guys are accusing Idols of being fake and not honest and are fighting for freedom of speech. And now we have idols like txt, rm, soyeon, or even bang chan (as far as i've known) speaking out about some harsh realities of being an idol, and you guys are saying that it's just "complaining" and calling them whiny babies who wants to gain sympathy, like pick a side tf.
Pre-debut it's like this... When they debut? People despise them so much somehow, its so sad that people even make fun of them when their 1st comeback postponed cuz they're sick...
This is why we should ALWAYS appreciate the people inside this industry. It's not easy to survive under such pressure everyday. Glad my 13 yo self decided to stan them 4 years ago ❤
I'm glad you posted this bcs many people think txt didn't go through hardships just because they debuted under bighit after bts..
For me the irony of TXT's situation is the fact that before BTS, Big Hit was a small company but the other three were huge and there were many hit artists that came and after that many other debuted for example after Twice JYP came and Stray kids debuted or after Big Bang one GG debuted from YG but nobody questioned either Stray Kids or either of the other groups (thank God, I don't want anyone to face what TXT faced just because they debuted after BTS and from the same co) but TXT faced worst, they were questioned about their abilities and everything. People tend to forget that they all were trainees before becoming idol, but their hardwork is waved off just because they debuted from big hit
These stories stop me from being a stan on ANY Kpop groups. It’s like enabling these companies to continue these inhumane practices.
I agree with you. It's because of such a toxic, manipulative industry that now I don't want any part of kpop.
Nothing is easy for KPOP idol. They might look happy and lavish but you have no idea what they be through
They should never be treated badly but things are tough in the beginning when trainees are just starting out, there will always be some struggles, no luxury conditions until they hit the big time, you have to work very hard to work yourself up and reach the top, becoming successful, it's literal blood sweat and tears for Idols to achieve their dreams like BTS have all been through it.
BTS and TXT went through it because they had no choice, it was a poor company! This should never be glamorised though? Trainees go through hardships in terms of the music and dance training itself, maybe even diet but their life shouldn’t be at risk multiple times from electric shocks to moss infestation that can be very harmful to legit bullying... all that isn’t normal
How scarry 💔 i feel sorry for these idols...
TXT is one of the few groups without a single bad song
Finally somebody spoke about txt. :') Pls make a part 2 about their debut to till date journey!
This is why under no circumstances should there be minors in this environment, it's not okay for even adults to have to go through this but the thought of it happening to teenagers or younger is disgusting.
exactly and they lose out on their teenage life cus of training and practice and when they debut and do a small thing the fans go off on them
I’ve followed kpop since Rain & love a lot of groups/artists BUT going to see TXT with my grown daughter every comeback, is the BEST experience!!! Of course they are talented but what does it for me is their UNITY as a group…they are a FAMILY! They are all so humble, warm & kind!! I can’t find 1 negative thing to say about them! You’ve done well TXT♥️
Idol training is so hard trainees go through alot and there many things that happen that we don't know....the mental stress i get just listening to there stories imagine them going through this.. am so glad txt is successful...
I don't follow TXT that much, but I really like ATEEZ. And the fact that Wooyoung and Yeosang went through this too hurts me even more.
kq must have felt like paradise compared to bh.. sure its much smaller but no diet, no abusive teachers and no bullies. just 10 employes and a handful of trainees with a dream.
😢 the 10 yr friendship that they sang about in dreamers. Jongho said in a live his previous co made trainees stand in line and repeat the same words 100 times daily. He rarely talks about it. Im sure it’s painful memories being abused like that.
i am so happy that those bully trainess didnt debut... and soobin said that he is happy to be with his member .all txt member are super nice and humble.. people really be forgetting that txt were trainess when txt was just started getting their success ...
The story about the older trainees made me feel so sad becahse they have mentioned before that when Yeonjun and Soobin first met, Yeonjun lied about his age brcauee he wanted to become friends wirh Soobin without him being weary/scared of him. But when Soobin found out Yeonjun lied, he was really hurt because he thought it was some prank the older trainees pulled on him. Like that in its own indicates that it went beyond them being strict older trainees, but it was boarderline bullying bcs why are you making a 15 year old so scared of being humiliated that he doesn't even want to become friends with people.
It's probably similar in other companies but I really have a problem with Hybe. They're posing as this good company, the perfect company, many fans, especially army, have this image of them. But the truth is that they just control very strongy what their idols can say and how they act. It's visible with BTS, after they started chapter 2 and suddenly started sharing opinions that differed from their previous interviews, and even made negative comments about Hybe. What I especially don't like is that other companies pay for singing lessons for their idols but Hybe neglects it a lot, especially after debut, but they still push the idea that their idols are amazing vocalists. They just expect that their trainees will learn how to properly sing themselves. And then, as we saw with RUNext, they don't even choose the best singers among their trainees - they want young and pretty idols first and foremost. I'm getting the ick from how they treat the girls in DreamAcademy too. All idols diet but I think Hybe pushes their idols way too much in this aspect. In LeSsserafim's documentary, the girls were already extremely thin, so thin I can't imagine how they even had the energy to dance - and Hybe told them to loose more weight, making Sakura cry. Yeosang also had some horror stories from his trainee days at BigHit. They make their trainees dance all day all night with limited food and don't even give them time to learn how to sing. It doesn't matter if you're sick, like really sick, or injured, or sleep deprived, or starving, you're supposed to show up and give your best anyway. That's the image of Hybe I've had until watching this video, but now I can add all the horrible things that happened to TXT as well...
I am confused. You use BigHit and HYBE interchangeably like they are the same entity. Which one are you talking about? TXT is under Big Hit Music now and Le Sserafim under another company which name I can’t remember now. Both are now under HYBE along with a few others. You are muddling your facts, your time line, and your argument.
All companies has rules and regulations of what can and cannot be said about it...not just in Kpop.....And you are also mixing Hybe and BG as a previous comment said... Hybe is an umbrella company for many other labels which LSF....is apart of one of the others....which Hybe only gives financial assistance to and promotional materials and have no say in the girls training and decision making....BH...which BTS and TXT are apart of was originally what Hybe was but separated from it before gaining other agencies....Just like any other labels BH has their own way of doing things, not saying all is right and justified but it is what it is....and why fans seems to have favor towards this one more than others is the fact they gave BTS way more freedom than any other agency or company was doing at the same time. BTS had lots of freedom where they could speak out about things they didn't approve of etc... and likewise also had a contract where they were bound by rules and regulations of what can and cannot be said and done... In life who ever have things done their own way alone???
This is true. Kpop stans brag about Hybe not Bighit being such a grand company, but they are run by the same people so they're both horrible in this sense
I agree that they control their idols to the bone. It's very clear. I also think it's more things they've done outside of covering some of the worst scandals, BUT as long as bts is under their company, kpop stans will never acknowledge this and Hybe knows that. They'll do whatever to keep bts around
They got some cover up scandals under their belt they're probably holding on to in order to keep them resigning. I'm sure the CEO is worse than expected
hybe was literally created 2-3 years ago as an umbrella company for different labels, it was not existing during bts and txt training. bighit, source music, pledis and other labels were independent at the time. so, as other noticed stop confusing hybe and bh. from what i can tell all labels have their own ways of managing their business unique to them. and what do you mean bts suddenely started speaking negatevely? where did you get it? when they said that? proofs? or you just read some bs on the internet an just went along with it?
the guy isnt wrong though yes there under hybe but that dosent signify there the same though@@HailToTheMeep
I got scared that txt was getting in a scandal but like txt is like the least problematic group 😭
Bruh when Txt debuted I was screaming and cheering for em!!! A new boy group with a good song and album.
If idols can gradually buy into their companies and become significant stockholders? Real constructive changes may be able to be made from within. Changes like no strict diets, but nutrition and cooking classes instead. Trainees and idols get one full day off per week. I don't know if this has ever happened, but the old BigHit building should be gutted to the walls and completely upgraded. BigHit/HYBE should buy a building/complex and convert it to a safe trainee dorm. Deep background checks on all employees and pay them well. Happy staff will usually go the extra mile. I'd like to see senior idols eventually start taking over department positions since they know what works and what is outdated.
I could never be an idol cause I’d be throwing hands at everyone
So glad Wooyoung and Yeosang left BH to KQ ent. Where they are a big happy family with Maddox and edenary. They don’t monitor the eating nor have a dating ban. There’s a no jumping ban bc they get crazy 😂
They have good relationship with cEO. Calls him father and thanks him at every opportunity, like at concerts and award ceremonies. The stars were aligned for these boys to be together and history was made.
I feel like TXT just found each other (Taehyun, Soobin, Kai) and sticked together. Yeonjun took care of Taehyun, but we don‘t know any more details of course… and then Beomgyu joined TXT as 5th and final member, perfectly completing the circle. ❤💛💚💙🩷
not them naming rooms like mushroom, electric shock and water.. its really sad..
it was a bankrupt company..what do you expect
It is true that many idols in the industry goes through hell. What bothers Me is that because of how some viewed TXT, It seems They felt They were in no position to talk about this stuff. From debut being blasted with hate from so many angles, People were itching to find a ''real'' reason to hate on TXT. If I was them I would be reluctant to speak up too, even under this I expected to see comments implying that its an attention ploy, But if TXT truly did that wouldn't it make more sense to do it earlier than now at least?? 4 years of being discredited, Why choose now versus all the times this info could have actually been useful?
Do you understand power dynamics?
If they spoke up earlier, they’d probably be punished by the company and not as successful. BH would have cancelled them and worked on another group. Now that they are popular internationally, they have the clout and prestige to be more outspoken.
Even in this comment section you can find people like this. Sigh txt deserves better
Being forced to do planks by other trainee's? Wow
Glad those older trainees didn't debut lol i hope they're jobless now
@@miyuyu102ye exactly such noobs
One of the members almost died & is legit traumatized he can def sue the company for negligence
If only it was that easy. Korea seems to not be as big on suing as they are in America. They'll ruin a reputation before allowing people to get rich without hard work
man, I hope they're able to feel the love we have for them. Though it cannot erase what they went through, I hope things are better now, they're really the sweetest I only want the best for them
I know this is a vid for TXT but i am SO grateful that Wooyoung and Yeosang left bighit to join KQ, but it breaks my heart to know that both Wooyoung and Yeosang must have gone through this same treatment while they were there as trainees
This is so heartbreaking, and though it's unrealistic, I pray they don't experience anymore hardships and only receive good things from now on. They deserve the world, and I will always be supporting them. I wish them the best 💔
Those normalising even admiring and romanticising abuses like these are disgusting. Struggles and hard work are admirable. But being abused isn’t the same!!
Wow thanks for doing this. It's been hard for them.
I have nothing but hate for everyone who discreted and continues discrediting TXT for all their hardwork. As a MOARMY, it breaks my heart that these 5 young men get undeserved criticisms for being BTS's juniors. They went thru hell just like their seniors. Even Suga mentioned this a lot of times in his past interviews. TXT didn't have it easy. No, they did not.
I'm glad you did this video, TXT have been trough some hardcore stuff.
i recall hearing soobin talked about him resorting to sneaking food because of the "diet". i'm repulsed
.....also, i want to tell you that i love your videos, and i listen to them during study! :) the voice in the videos is comforting, despite the subject
This is just so cruel. I can't imagine what other trainees are going through under different companies right now.
Regardless if they have had every opportunity provided for them or if they had to start from the ground up. Neither of these scenarios matter if your music is $hit and the fans don’t like you. Luckily, that’s not the case with TXT. They will continue to succeed regardless if they had a little head start or not.
Moas, txt has gone through a lott to be here, lets make the cb big💥💥💥STREAM HARD MOAS 🔥🔥🔥
and they were literal kids during these days, that’s just so sad
I remember when TXT debuted i was full on support and then the Hate train came... Toxic BTS stans, High expectations kpop haters, etc... i felt so bad and than like 2 yrs later they POPPED OFF and then Enhypen debuted things were much harder during thoses times cause BTS influence was still in run only untill pretty recently...
Wow txt when through so much but majority of K-pop groups go through that. it’s a continuous thing and it’s sad😢 but txt they are doing so amazing and I am so proud of them. ❤
this is why people should respect all idols regardless if they stan them or not, they go through hell just to debut and all they ask from people is respect, watching this video hurt, i really hope they are a little happier now although idol life is never easy
regenerative mushrooms and hazardous electrical cords?!!
Being k pop idols is really hard , I feel sorry for them what they all go through so please do love them accept the changes & respect their privacy 💕❤️
Even being an ARMY from 2015, I can vouch that TXT's success comes 100% from their own talent and it is not related to BTS.
Even if BTS wasn't a thing and TXT had the bighit producers, they would still prove again and again that they are super talented individuals who will achieve everything and anything with hard work.
BTS members mentioned so many times that the company didn't have the money and the space to give them a good life. They struggled a lot during training and even after debuting. Same goes for TXT. Bighit wasn't a thing when they were training.. I would assume the company were spending most of their income on BTS to make them as BIG of a thing as possible to get the breakthrough.
Please protect TXT at any cost.
This is partly due to being in a country where almost every male has suffer through a military conscription. Schools, offices, clubs, sports teams, families, and even entertainers reflect military conscription culture in Korea. The Korean society is very slowly demilitarizing. It may is disturbing to foreigners but this was a normal Korean childhood for me minus the success later.
I would politely disagree.. This lifestyle isn’t the norm for kids in Korea, only those who pursue being trainees.. As someone of mixed race, my memories of living in Korea aren’t all gumdrops and lollipops, but my childhood was quite normal there.. I remember dancing for pocket money and hanging out with my friends until it was time to eat dinner.. Kids who weren’t trainees were allowed to be kids, that’s why you always hear artist say that they would sneak off and play with their friends when they were in the trainee period to have a sense of normalcy..
This has nothing to do with that??
ppl need to realise that just bcz txt are under the same company and in good realitions wit Bts they did not or get the siliver spoon
00:51 - oh this special day in May 2019
I love them ❤️
You know what let’s give them the love they deserve. They work hard and struggle so much; let’s fill their lives with love on our part
This reminded me a lot of traineeA 😢 on the teaching aspects
and taehyun literally almost died bc of that room 😟
"you don't know unless you walk in my shoes", so stop throwing and sh!tty comments.everyone is here by struggling whether it's a big company or small
jennie is lazy and she uses same excuse for years now
@@RekhaSharma-hh1svleave her the fuck alone, you have no idea what anyone is going through....how can you normalize hate
@@RekhaSharma-hh1sv the go and show people how great you are at dancing
So ironic I was just listening to Run Away and this came up
there will always be people shoving the idea of txt's success lies on bts' just to satisfy their superiority complex. it's plain disgusting and petty
while i agree that social hierarchy is everywhere especially in asia it shouldn’t be a norm because it sounds like borderline bullying. just the fact that yeonjun Lied about being younger when he first met soobin says alot. He knew that the younger trainees would be intimidated by the older ones, so he appear younger for soobin to feel more comfortable but even so, soobin was upset that he lied. and yeonjun also said if the txt members themselves arent the hyungs, he would never be the maknae. anyways they only told us one part of a big story, who knows what else happened back then.
Lets be honest whether its BH or any other label/ company....in Korea becoming a Kpop idol aint no walk in the park.... Its social hierarchy and contracts they are bound to doesnt make defending themselves, speaking out or just jumping ship or letting go easy.... As we all see its mostly only when the idols have a sense of independence of years being with a company, then they may have freedom to say things that many wouldn't expect happened to them. Becoming anything we want really, isnt going to be easy, we will meet harsh situations, awful people, disappointments, embarrassing, failure...dangerous situations also, just to endure to make ones dream into reality....TXT, BTS and others I have heard their stories....Imagine the ones that we truely dont hear about.... look at even Enhypen and even though they had it better interms of facilities etc... That didnt take away the stress, and questionable methods and situations they had to endure to debut....We will eventually hear their story as time passes....let Athletes, Soilders, Doctors, Nurses, Teachers or any work at all, tell you what they had to endure to get and keep they jobs and many people who isnt in those field will probably say their life is good even when its not...lol....the situation is real, it aint no fairytale as many of us fans think after seeing the glitter and success they are having now....Its situations many of us wouldnt accept or could kept up with.
I'm glad to see there are reasonable people in this world.😅 Tomorrow by Together is a group that worked hard, despite the rumours, and they deserve what they have now. Just as this is valid for most k-pop groups...