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- Legendary drummer and rock icon, Carmine Appice, shares his personal insights of John Sykes, Tony Franklin and their supergroup, Blue Murder! We hear how Carmine did all he could to join the group, the instant chemistry between them, some of the crazy times and recording stories, and why he feels the group didnt hit the heights they should have. We also hear about his recent interactions with Sykes, since he removed himself from the music business. With discussions ranging from missed opportunities with White Snake to the formation and eventual disbandment of Blue Murder, Carmine's firsthand accounts offer an intimate look into the rock music industry of the 80s and 90s.
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Carmine looking like a retired detective whos moved to the coast... only to be dragged back in to help on a big case that he'll crack, before drifitng back into the sunset
This week on Miami Vice. The above story concerns Crockett's mentor as a rookie cop.
Dennis Farina in Get Shorty, if Dennis was a legendary drummer.
“His ego is writing checks his a** can’t cash”
I can't stand this guy, I just clicked on this to hear him explain how he taught John Sykes how to play guitar. He must have been preoccupied during this interview because he forgot to mention the fact that he invented water.
dude....so funny.
Blue Murder was phenomenal. EVERY track on that debut was perfect.
So damn true. Still play those songs today. Sykes =beast
John Sykes, an amazing guitarist who shouldve been even bigger.
Yeah Man - he could do it all. Watching old videos of Sykes is mind blowing!
I wonder if he came from money, he left a lot on the table. I would imagine though those Whitesnake royalties were a pretty penny as well.
@paulcarlin5181 for sure! That would be enough for anyone of us normal folks to retire on!
Had Sykes done the "WS '87" tour,instead of just the album,John Sykes would've blown TF up IMO. Just yesterday I saw a comment giving Viv Campbell credit for the guitar parts on WS 87,despite not playing one note.
Coverdale fired the entire band prior to that tour. From what I've heard there was a bit of a power struggle brewing between him and Sykes,who can write,arrange,perform,play incredible guitar and sing with the best of them! So it makes sense he'd get sent packing. If you dig JS,but have never listened to the debut Blue Murder album I highly recommend giving it a listen. The entire album is incredible!
No one is a bigger Carmine Appice fan than Carmine Appice.
No doubt...man he loves to pat himself on the back
He likes to think he was a instrumental figure with every major event in rock music. He is a legend in his on mind. He even argues with his younger brother Vinny on how their last name should be pronounced!
😂 but he’s a good drummer indeed . Yeah but must have his house filled with mirrors just to look how great and legendary he is😂
the room that Carmine is sitting in: He hung the drywall, melted the molten lava for his platinum records, installed the HVAC while painting the walls all the while playing double stroke rolls with his left foot....WHILE doing this interview! amazing fella.
His Tygers Of Pan Tang stuff always gets overlooked.
Spellbound is a great album...up the tygers
John Sykes, my favorite guitar player since Thin Lizzy 🙂
Damn he kills it and reinvigorated Lizzy. Shame it was only 1 album.
@@bonesjackson81 Yeah!
@@bonesjackson81 Lynott really should have kept the band going. Scott wanted out be he could have been replaced (maybe Robbo)?
Carmine is Carmine's #1 fan
Like seriously. He’s so full of himself and boring af as a drummer.
Blue Murder was a great band. Their debut lp was awesome!!
Blue Murder was an amazing band and that first album was phenomenal it's a shame that they didn't get the success they deserved.
I still believe to this day it was in the name. They should of picked something else. i remember as a kid and still wonder to this day, what the hell is a blue murder? Cop who kills? With the name, I dont think they were able to be marketed to the masses as they could of been with a better name. I found my copy of it when it came out in the death/hardcore metal section of the record store, they were clueless where to put it, and I did not blame them, lol.
I love Carmine Appice and his brother Vinnie - two legends!
The reason Cozy gets all the gigs. He was one of the best in the world. Top 3 to me in the world. Rip Cozy Powell😢
I like Carmine better
Cozy was a far superior drummer to Carmine. Plus, he didn't keep telling everyone how great he was and that everyone copied him. His drumming did the talking!
Did Cozy ever record a second album with someone? It seemed he was one and done.
@winstonsyme5899 Rainbow 3 lps. Jeff Beck, I think 2. Don't hold my feet to the fire on Jeff Beck. The others he was just sitting in. Cozy had his own hits in Great Britain. Before he even joined Rainbow. You can ask the British viewers about that. They know better than I do. I'm from America. He's seriously one of the best drummers in the world. Just listen to kill the King. Stargazer a light in the black. His best work was definitely with Rainbow. In Rainbow, he was actually a band member, and he did get writing credits on a few of the songs. Strangely enough, he was very close to Ritchie Blackmore. They had practical jokes in common, and they were actually close . Cozy, could have stayed in Rainbow forever. But he didn't want to do top 40 songs. He hated since you've been gone their biggest hit. Then he goes and plays with Brian May, the same song the reason he left Rainbow. He should have stayed with rainbow. I mean, you could listen to his work with ELP. He shows you how he can really stretch out with that band. Before you get crazy, he replaced Palmer. He was a very sought-after drummer and one of the best heavy rock drummers in the world.
@@Fuxerz
Thanks for the response. Appreciate it
Blue Murder. Loved that debut album. It was, and still is amazing.
Agreed!
The 2nd release is a lost gem as well.
@@claudeg4016 I got that on CD as well.
Everyone in Blue Murder are legends. It is always a blast hearing Carmine recounting rock and roll stories. 🤘
Amazing how many bands he's been asked to join, how every good idea is his idea, and every mistake/failure is someone else's fault.
Lol it does kinda come out that way doesn’t it.
Yes it is amazing how not being an unreliable junkie gets you places.
True story from when he joined the snake = the tigers pan tang fan club secretary was a friend at the time - John phoned to say (paraphasing) “David’s being horrible” that was around ‘85 - anyway Sykes was the full package - would like to say is but the last time I say him interviewed he looked burnt out - shame and now to dig out his solo album for a spin.
Sykes is living off the truckloads of money he earned from the 1987 album and answers to no one. We should all be so lucky to be in his position.
Sykes doesn’t answer my textiz, either.
Carmine is a MONSTER. So accurate yet so animated. He's always fun to watch.
Carmine needs to call Eddie Trunk in order to get in contact with John and get that album he finished in 2018 and release it or redo that with Carmine and Tony because he has such a great guitar sound that no one else has and weither or not he knows this, but he has a huge fan base all over the world. Come on John get back in the game man.
That would be a 5hour phone call where they stroke each others egos endlessly and forget entirely about getting John out of retirement .
Hey Carmine Hows it going Brother! Do You remember back in the day You put on a Drum Clinic at Scott's Drum Center in Lafayette, La. I won a Gold Plated Drum Key I won and You gave it to me. It was a Super Exciting Time Hanging Out. I also caught Your Signature DrumStick in 1989 at the CajunDome BlueMurder w/ BonJovi. I retired from Live band but still Record Drums at my Studio JZ Studios here in Louisiana and very happy. Tell Vinny Hi. P.S. You were my favorite Drum Teacher. Take care and GOD Bless You🥁🥁🥁📀🎧
Carmine's not interested. He's too busy telling the world how he invented the drums, music and the universe.
@@arronowen8969 Who asked You!
@@jonathanrichard6881 Everyone's entitled to my opinion.
Dam I need for you to teach me I’m a drummer from Tyler Texas I loved blue muder I’m screscreaming to survive
Sykes in thin lizzy was my fav band he was in ..but then I love lizzy . But Phils songs with sykes input ..amazing stuff ..never saw them live....My dad did tho...on that last tour and he said it was pretty special......I wish they did more recordings.... cold sweat.. Great sykes solo
That Thunder and Lightning album is probably my fav Lizzy record 👍🤘
Brian Robertson and John Sykes can you please stand up!
Scott Gorham
Carmine still rockin on! Love these stories. Huge influence to all us 50’sumpitin gen’xer drummers and the rest of gens. . 🥁. Thank you
I can't imagine looking for a singer with John being Right There All Along!
LOL. Apparently you never heard Ray Gillen sing.
At some point, i recall reading that Mike Portnoy and John Sykes were trying to get something going. I heard that Mike had to walk away from it because things weren't happening with John. A damn shame! Come back, John!
Richie Kotzen ended up playing that gig.
Carmine’s a lovable dude and great drummer. Cozy as far as drummers go is just on a entirely different level!!!
Awesome interview. Loved Blue Murder ❤
I met John in a pub (The Wheatsheaf) in Vauxhall,London, with John Sloman who had just left Uriah Heap. I saw the two of them at the Marquee club with the short lived "Badlands".
Little did I know then how great John was. I loved Blue Murder.
John was one of my big influences. Loved his style since his Tigers of Pantang days. He really hit his peak in Whitesnake but I guess he just had enough of it all and that's why we don't hear from him anymore.
Bet Coverdale was a big part of why Blue Murder didnt take off like they normally wouldve.
It's funny, Carmine Appice always did everything, all the ideas for the best sounding ,and biggest selling albums always came from him somehow. Let's ask David Coverdale if he even thought of Carmine playing in WS, i highly doubt it.
This guy turned down all the top projects and never made it to the mountain top.
Carmine has written his place in music history,great drummer.
@rickythomas5401 in his mind of course
@rickythomas5401 in his mind of course
Back in the ‘80’s he looked like Lori Singer in”Footloose”!
I remember buying the Blue Murder cassette when it came out in 1989 and I played the crap out if it in my car , later that year I heard that they were going to be playing the Metro on Clark St in Chicago and I was so excited that when I went to purchase the tickets that day of the show the girl behind the window told me the show was cancelled.. I was like bummed out. Anyway Blue Murder was one hell of a band..
I met Blue Murder when they were rehearsing in the valley when I delivered their flight cases(A&S) before the tour. Tony played a bad note and John gave him "The Look".
I think John has depression. As someone who has it I see it in his eyes and mannerisms as of late.
100%. The Whitesnake rebuke and lack of support by the record label for Blue Murder took their toll. He was my biggest influence as a guitar hobbyist (I can't say I'm a guitar player) and his playing literally saved my life as a pre-teen and teenager battling against domestic violence, physical violence and sexual abuse. One day I'd like to shake his hand and say "thank you Sir".
Ray Gillian and John…that would be amazing…
There is a video called Too Late. Demo with Ray and Sykes.
Great interview
I saw Blue Murder on that first tour. They were amazing 👏 Strangely they played between King's X and Billy Squier...odd lineup but great show 🎉
That’s the first time I ever heard of Blue Murder and King’s X too! Strange openers for Squier. The Tower Theater in Philly in 1990 I think?
John Sykes is damn amazing. Absolutely sucks he hasn't put out more records. Good Carmine got to avoid Coverdales jealous wrath.
Sykes was a dick to David. He bit the hand that fed him.
Still of the Night is a Blackmore riff left over from the Deep Purple Mk 3 days. David Coverdale provided Sykes with a massive opportunity and then Sykes tried to fuck him over.
Another Coverdale hater shockaroonie
Bingo- Coverdale was jealous. He couldn't hold a candle to John in any fascet. Gotta be a big dic to fire the whole band after you've done recording and hire all new for the tour..oh and dye your hair blond in hopes of getting more attention. 🤣🤣🤣
@@tangerinerose3724 looks like he was not only one who was jealous
@@boabythedug 🙄 ridiculous.
The two Blue Murder records are essential listening. Amazing writing, playing and the complete package. Carmine is a beast
One of the great’s
Valley of the Kings was an amazing song, but an 8 minute song isn’t a good choice for a single.
I saw them live in Noblesville Indiana with Bon Jovi and it was outstanding man. They played an acoustic that was just killer! I think it was blue murder, winger and bon jovi I believe, or maybe Cinderella. I can't remember, this was like 89 or 90..
💕💥🙌 still have B M album 💯
I'm surprised he didn't say Dio asked him to join the band before Vinnie.
Carmine looks like a Gambino capo in the witness protection program.
BLUE MURDER'S LP WAS THE BEST LP OF 1989!!! AND IS ONE OF BEST METAL RECORDS PERIOD!!! THE WHITESNAKE 1987 SOUND WAS JOHN SYKES'S SOUND!!! AFTER SYKES LEFT COVERDALE BROUGHT IN VAI, & VANDEBERG TO TRY TO REPLICATE THAT SOUND. JOHN SYKES BASICALLY WAS WHITESNAKE!!!
Let John Sykes be, it seems that he isn't interested of a further career.
Knew Bonnie Bonaparte who played with Sykes . I played at mandalay bay with Bonnie in 98 at rum jungle . Great drummer .
Blue murder was a killer album. I wore that shit out. But he was right. Grunge came in shortly after. I never got it. The two cassettes I played all the time in the mid to late 80s into the early 90s was blue murder and Faith Hope love by Kings X. I was hoping that rock ‘n’ roll would feed off of those two albums but neither one of them got much Radio play and I just never got it. It wasn’t until later I realized corporate radio decided what got played and they continue to play the same old worn out shit they had always played plus this new grunge thing that I just never connected with. Blue murder and I will say Kings X as well are musicians bands. Too good for Radio and above most peoples heads. Might sound elitist, but I truly feel that way.
Carmine played a big part in the way I play the bass. He's been an influence since Vanilla Fudge. Bass and drums clicked together.
For a guy who is a legend, Carmine has managed to be involved in many forgettable projects. Somehow with him, that only enhances his legend
Not counting his very brief stint as a touring drummer for Ozzy's band Carmine was a member of only one even remotely "major" act - and that was the one-hit wonder (cover) band Vanilla Fudge. His brother Vinny was in both Dio AND Sabbath. But according to Carmine he turned down opportunities to be in multiple platinum-selling groups. 😀
Uh, he was also the drummer and the co writer for two of Rod Stewart’s biggest hits
@@andytimp And he also played drums on the 1978 Paul Stanley solo album
@@sebastienlavoie9334lol that album sucked
@@Bls-of1ld I love it, his and Ace's album are the best of the four solo albums, have a nice day moron!!
Facts are facts. John and Tony still work together, and they do not want Carmine apart of it. It is Coverdale and Appice that Sykes hates the music world so much. He loves to play, he loves the fans, he hates the buisness side and this asshole is a major reason why.
Tony and Carmine still play together, too.
His playing on Thin Lizzy's Thunder and Lightning is another classic. No more word on the record deal he had with Australian record label believe called Little Robot . So sad he has not down nothing for years, apart from that one song bought out a few years back.
Oh yes, we all know..Carmine did everything everywhere all the time forever.. Jesus was missing a line in the Sermon on the Mount, he called up Carmine..
John Sykes doesn't get the credit he deserves
"I'm a studied drummer" 😂😂😂 Cozy was a complete powerhouse of them drums !! Stop lickin ur own ass Carmine !!
I don't believe half the shit that Carmine says. I don't believe that Blackmore asked Carmine to join Rainbow. Cozy replaced the drummer from Elf that was in Rainbow after a series of drummer auditions that failed to produce the right guy. Carmine is the only guy that has ever said this shit before.
I love all these musicians, but I just couldn’t get into that album. Didn’t have anything memorable. It was solid, but it would’ve never caught on. Even now The songs just aren’t good.
Carmine didn’t you have a cartoon back in the 60s called commander McBragg !
He's kind of like the Forest Gump of thezrock community.
Blue Murder rocked… but they should’ve been called “SYKES WARD” 🤪
Everyone wants John Sykes to come out of retirement except, apparently, John Sykes.
Cozy was miles better than you.
Here in the UK I remember back in 1979 (?) when John Sykes left The Tyler's of Pan Tang,I was really interested to see what was next as to me,he was going to be the next guitar hero.Sadly it appears that just like Glenn Hughes,the weight of his ego and the almost messiah like complex he carried with him became his worst enemy.As with Hughes he had no humility,no being humble but was a victim of his own self inflated ego.
John is done, let’s face it. He’s probably still getting royalties from the 87 album that’s sustaining him enough to just keep sitting on his ass. Leave him be. Dude was a legend but unfortunately lost all passion for the craft
Whitesnake was John Sykes. 19987 over ten million next album without John 1 million say no more I stopped listening to them after John got sacked.
I thought John left Lizzy to play with Whitesnake??
This guy was great in the Village People in the leather suit. Rumor is they still pay him royalties for use of the mustache.
John couldn't afford the extra bus for Carmine's ego... 😂
Blue Murder one of the best ever!
Oh let it go
Carmine Appice was the ultimate King of Bad Mustaches & Wigs. The pinnacle. The Mount Everest of ridiculous facial grooming and heady carpet samples. If that awful, awful Hall of Fame in Cleveland ever builds a wing for bad mustaches and wigs, I would be honored if I would be graced with the honor of inducting him into that wing.
At least the Flock of Seagulls guy did it with the express intent to stand out from the crowd. Which he certainly did. Appice, on the other hand, did it because he was both delusional and blind.
I still hope for the revival of Blue Murder. My light of hope is John Sykes, Tony Franklin, and Carmine Appice. I have never felt such an impact before! I remember the excitement as if it were yesterday. From Japan with love...
The ONLY record better than the Blue Murder debut is the Badlands debut. Ray Gillan could've been in Blue Murder for a minute,that would've been epic. But then again no perfect Badlands lp so...
Count me as a guy who was blown away by Jake's playing and writing on the two Ozzy records... and then was MASSIVELY disappointed the first time I heard that Badlands debut. But I guess Jake was following his heart towards blues rock and away from metal. And Ray was a poor man's Coverdale - and I never even liked Coverdale. But to each their own. It's all in the ear of the beholder.
He was in Blue Murder for a few months .
Check out John Sykes-Too Late
It's a very early demo of Blue Murder with Ray on vocals
The Badlands and Blue Murder debuts were both amazing! 1a & 1b and I can't choose between them. Amazing!!🔥🧨
I prefer cozy
tygers were og nwobhm no question
He's counting his Whitesnake money, probably doesn't need to work.
What’s Sykes doing? Sleeping on a bed of money.
Funny! I had just listened to this recording and I seen this interview. This recording is the most underrated album ever recorded, this band was just as good as anything that came out of that era
Carmine definitely has a hard nosed 1970s private eye look going on
You bet on the wrong snake
Carmine’s so predictable. 😂
And who is COZY POWELL today and who is you man?
Cozy passed away in 1998
@@jimmansi9046 Thank you, everyone knows that. I mean the importance of Powel and his place in music.
@@alexkorakov4722 sorry, I guess I misunderstood your comment, I was lucky enough to see cozy a few times back in the 70s and early 80s with rainbow when Dio was on board, he’s one of my favorite drummer of all time, I loved to watching him, the guy was amazing, I once went to see Aerosmith at a casino in New Jersey and Joey Kramer was sick, cozy filled in, that was awesome too
We see Carmine’s real hair at last…. At least I think. Now lose the sunglasses.
Why go through all that hassle of promoting and touring when at the end of the day you wind up with TJ Maxx money??
He's good but not Cozy good.
Facts!!!!
I never was into him at all...
John Sykes is doing whatever he wants
This guy lol
Tommy Aldridge much > Carmine. There is no conceit in Carmine's family - he got it all.
Carmine is full of himself ya think lol
honestly i’m convinced sykes took carmine off of his speed dial because of his big mouth and ego. it’s a miracle how he could fit his head in the frame.
Fantastic music but unbelievably cheesy lyrics.
Indeed. Especially Track 2.
Blue Murder failed because of Carmines porn mustache 😂
How did you manage to get his whole head in the frame.
What an ego ..opposite of his brother Vinnie.
LoL 🤣 I did actually "laugh out loud" how did you manage to get his whole head in the frame LoL right? Too funny but sadly very true. That's why I've never cared for him. When he was making those comments about how he had more chops than Cozy 🙄 or however he said it "okay Carmine" 👌 I'm sorry dude but you couldn't touch Cozy drum wise, he was 1000X the drummer you could ever hope to be and yeah he and Vinny are two very different people.
False. I, EYE, invented that sound. I ROLL THOSE nickels, Apeace. DIZGRAZIAHDA
This guy could sell his mother if he could get some credit for that.
This guy has such a big mouth. Reason #1 John removed him from his speed dial.
He brags about smoking every interview. Lol.
Stop. Has nothing to do with management. The bottom line is that the album was boring. A thousand other bands were doing the same shit.
No they weren’t
their songs weren't that good that's why.. no one wants to hear butt rock when you could have done so many other options with a guitarist like Sykes
Heard John was in the process of gender reassignment.