Would really recommend getting TSM. I know how it feels to just not want to bother posting things because it all takes so long, but with TSM, I do everything in like 20 seconds. Really boosts my gold per hour and allows me to not have to worry about taking so much time to post everything
Awesome video. I remember struggling with money back in TBC with my paladin, but this knowledge was not widely known back then, and pretty sure TH-cam wasn't a thing either. Edit: On a side note, I used to give my items that would normally be vendor trash to a friend to sell and he would keep 30%. Totally worth it in the long run because someone who knows how to work the market can make your money back with a little extra, even after his cut on most items. You are saving time, making a little extra money, and helping a friend who likes spreadsheets.
I have full BIS holy gear for phase 1 and a few alright prot pieces laying around.. I have a ton of spell power due to this wonder if I could achieve this using my holy stuff and a few tank pieces?
Love the guides. Rogue player through and through. Boosted a Druid to have a farmer. With wotlk coming I wanted another pally as I was a rogue main with a ret/port alt. Made it to 15 since last night when I saw your first video. I’m curious though. My mind says I could boost em to 58 or say and tank till 70. As a play familiar player do you think it would hinder me losing those levels playing or is it fairly straight forward to pick up the tbc differences? Thanks either way man. 🤙
I run a high avoidance set with just 185 spellpower and I hit the hourly lockout with 5 minutes to spare every time. I also run a deep prot spec with ardent defender that doesn't utilize sanc. aura at all. Instead I use imp. retribution aura, a lichen shield and a thorium shield spike. I don't even use holy waters either. This video isn't wrong, it just sets the bar way too high for when this is possible to do.
Really good video, ive been contemplating if I wanted to level my lock or level a prot pally and as much as I love playing lock, its super hard to say no to 400g+/hour guaranteed and being able to pump some serious damage as a tank.
I just hit 70 a couple days ago and don't currently have any professions. I want to level Engineering and Enchanting. Would you level mining first along with Engineering, then drop mining and pickup Enchanting after maxing Engineering? or...just farm Strat and buy the mats needed to lvl Engineering?
actually, the beasts deck supposedly supplies a trinket for healers that is supposedly bis into sunwell, i've been tryin to farm Ace of Beasts from The Beast in UBRS on a private server with my feral druid tanking and my geared dps mage doing the dmg but i've killed him 5 times and it hasn't dropped yet. It probably will sell for 1000g.
@@JoshLineberry Yeah I remember that, but my questions were because if he needs heals to do the instance then it's not really soloable by the rest of us unless we also bring a healer. So I wanted him to clarify if it was 100% soloable and his healers were just icing on the cake.
do this. I don't understand why everyone and their monkey thinks mote farming is efficient. All the mobs and loot are yours in solo dungeons and you won't be driven insane constantly fighting for limited mobs.
what you are forgetting are the elite mobs which are considered +5 to 10 level mobs. and u dont need engineering u can use easy throw dynamite 2 and its cheap to make or have made. also the aquamarine.... its for the run speed enchant thats why its higher priced.
Just use a good def shield, on paper those aoe shields are better in practice it's fancyful garbage that might get you killed in a pull where a standard def shield would have made it easy to live. You don't even save a single cast of consecrate in a pull with the damage the sporegar shield puts out. Don't join the fad...or you know test it yourself and you will see how much more damage you will take for a pittance of extra dps.
Hey, i made 3 force reactive shields, a huge boost when farming this. its easily an extra 10% damage overall and is 100% worthwhile to see if you can get a few made. huge damage and relatively cheap old world mats.
Keep your essence's of undeath or sell as annihilators! When I played prot pally on private server recently I got annihilators made for myself and the other prot pallys, a great weapon to switch to when your not actively tanking a boss in 25mans as it boosts your raid dps by 600 armor shred. Sounds like nothing but there are fights like Fathomlord where after your add is killed you're better off buffing your raid dps rather than smacking with your spell damage weapon. Just to meme I slapped unholy weapon enchant on it to lower boss dmg by 15 lolol. *Also keep your Vibroblade from Blade's edge and slap Mongoose on it for BiS speed weapon for blessing of wisdom regen.
Side note, keep portals decks. They are still worth it at 70 since they give a % of life and mana on rez. Also they work in arena and BG's. Twister nether decks are super fun to play around with.
Just heal dungeons > heroic dungeons > raids. If you got gold you can buy some boe gear (or if you got tailoring that'd be good for whitemend gear which is hella expensive)
on my server selling boost runs in strat go for 20-25g per run, thats an extra 80-100g per run, x5 thats 400g per hour just in exp boost payments ontop of the shit you sell.
what i do is just vendor blues and greens at a set threshhold, assuming of course it's not a boe with stats someone would actually probably use like an of the monkey item, like if it's green item and it vendors for 2g90s+ that's close enough to waht i'd probably get out of disenchanting it and it's instant rather than worrying about selling it, and for blues it's about the same 3g+ might as well vendor, although on the private server the large brilliants sell like hotcakes at 7-8g each which is crazy to me cus they are super easy to get, you're not just getting blues from bosses the tier .05 set pieces are dropping randomly off trash like the bracers of valor and devout belt, DE those too, although i have sold some of those on ah for the same price i would get for sharding it, the beaststalker belt has good stats so i usually try to sell those. other times i take some of the .05 pieces like the caster bracers and put like a +7 intellect or stamina enchant on it to make it more appealing while still putting it at a low reasonable price like 7g to ensure it will sell and it is supplying the community with good stuff.
After a few hours in Strat a few days ago, I went to AH with a ton of rune cloth. Found out they sold for 4g a stack on our AH at the time. All sold - I am rich...
This talent build has pretty much been my go to since I've seen it. Just not a big fan of the cast time on Avenger's shield and will wait for it to be instant cast
Prices on Herod are ass compared to alot of yall haha. LBS are 4.5g, Orbs are 6g. Having more spell power Def helps the rubs over all. I'm usually running around 350SP and can clear with little issue but having 400 to 450 would be perfect tbh.
tl.dr: 450g/h saying 12 min per run - not counting to take the 5 min run to sell/repair after every id. -also not counting in that you cant do 5 runs per hour for hours because you only can do 4/h since the lockout starts when you leave the dungeon. -uses "pocket healer" ? so its not solo? i didnt get that part of the video
he's leveling his alts in there, so he has access to a healer. you don't need that, but hes doing a slightly different route to pull more mobs. watch the video again and i'm sure you get it :P
239g in disenchanting mats in 5 IDs? What kind of a server are you on?! :D Shards are down to 2g each on Venoxis :/ Edit: had no idea dust was worth that much again. Thanks for the tip!
In 1 hour i do 4 runs which is not bad i think, i search crates for holy water and open chests so i think i could be faster but with a few repair bots at my side it really speeds up the pace.
I dont know what are the odds but i got all my bankers on all 5 accounts with ...fordays before i ever saw one of your vids. eg: clothfordays,skinfordays,gemsfordays,dustfordays,matsfordays,miscfordays to name a few Currently leveling 2 pala prot+heal 3x bm hunters team (had prot war, priest, 3x frost mages before, but i noticed if i swap one of the mages for the main (4th) hunter (same pre-raid bis equivalent) dps was better than 3x mages. Testing out my theory that 3x bm hunters in high level dungeons is the way to go
having pocket healers is not something feasible for me maybe (unless i boost people and ask them to heal me for the massive pulls), but all i wanna say is thnx for the video guides i was able to buy my epic flying mount in like 4 days of boosting customers :)
Really like your streams and videos! One thing though... I feel like your streams have a lot more energy and enthusiams, which your videos kind of seem to lack. Maybe it's just me though. Keep up the good work! The vid was very informative!
greater eternals are like 15g on my server atm, so Im fucking DEing everything right now, large brilliants are only 2.5-3g so yeah actually better to vendor some blues lmao
Hi! Really loving the videos, just subscribed. I was talking with a guildie about Lichen Guard, who said it's very overrated, not worth. He was saying a pure mitigation shield better bc the dmg isn't high enough. He referenced this video (pasted below), which says, "Petrified Lichen Guard didn't do enough dmg to cause me to cast even one less consecration, so what's the point?" Wanted to see what you thought about that. I want Lichen Guard to be good because it's cool, haha. th-cam.com/video/z5ZR8xlvufA/w-d-xo.html
Why get baited into another blizzard fail? Get a real vanilla experience. Darrowshire launches fresh July 30th. No world buffs, 12 month server timeline. No Bots, no micros. Play a real server and not want to rope while you do it!
Would really recommend getting TSM. I know how it feels to just not want to bother posting things because it all takes so long, but with TSM, I do everything in like 20 seconds. Really boosts my gold per hour and allows me to not have to worry about taking so much time to post everything
Bro the moment he started talking about the math behind the avoidance it sounded just like the guild in the Leroy video lol
33.3%…. Repeating of course
Awesome video. I remember struggling with money back in TBC with my paladin, but this knowledge was not widely known back then, and pretty sure TH-cam wasn't a thing either.
Edit: On a side note, I used to give my items that would normally be vendor trash to a friend to sell and he would keep 30%. Totally worth it in the long run because someone who knows how to work the market can make your money back with a little extra, even after his cut on most items. You are saving time, making a little extra money, and helping a friend who likes spreadsheets.
please try to do a video on shorting the normal 3 pull to a two pull instead that would be dope
Did they nerf this? I'm only getting around 15g raw gold per run x5 which is nowhere close to 125g.
Are you doing it correctly, I was getting around 10g per run while boosting so it was split between 2 people - so around 20g/run solo if not more
I have full BIS holy gear for phase 1 and a few alright prot pieces laying around.. I have a ton of spell power due to this wonder if I could achieve this using my holy stuff and a few tank pieces?
Blackguard? Are you on Bloodsail Buccaneers?
Love the guides. Rogue player through and through. Boosted a Druid to have a farmer. With wotlk coming I wanted another pally as I was a rogue main with a ret/port alt. Made it to 15 since last night when I saw your first video. I’m curious though. My mind says I could boost em to 58 or say and tank till 70. As a play familiar player do you think it would hinder me losing those levels playing or is it fairly straight forward to pick up the tbc differences?
Thanks either way man. 🤙
Have you tried theorycrafting with the grand marshal shield instead of skull flame?
You also need the pristine black diamond for the epic pally mount quest. So anyone who boosted a pally needs them for that.
Lmao I didn’t even realize as a pally main 😂 I never did the quest. Mana cost to summon mount is garbage lol
@@Graysfordays it's only 150 mana though!
@@austinjohnson3977 resets the mp5 though.. so even just for running around grinding it loses you time drinking overall.
Plus you can get locked out on holy if interrupted for those that pvp
Also if you cast a buff before you mount, gotta wait for GCD since its a spell. I switched to bird for all the reasons listed here xD
I run a high avoidance set with just 185 spellpower and I hit the hourly lockout with 5 minutes to spare every time. I also run a deep prot spec with ardent defender that doesn't utilize sanc. aura at all. Instead I use imp. retribution aura, a lichen shield and a thorium shield spike. I don't even use holy waters either.
This video isn't wrong, it just sets the bar way too high for when this is possible to do.
Love to see your setup
I do love imp ret
I’ve heard the sporrigar shield is pretty comparable and really easy to get, although there seems to be debate which one is bis.
Why not skullflame shield?
Great video. What level does enchanting need to be to de the greens and blues that will be dropping?
Really good video, ive been contemplating if I wanted to level my lock or level a prot pally and as much as I love playing lock, its super hard to say no to 400g+/hour guaranteed and being able to pump some serious damage as a tank.
I just hit 70 a couple days ago and don't currently have any professions. I want to level Engineering and Enchanting. Would you level mining first along with Engineering, then drop mining and pickup Enchanting after maxing Engineering? or...just farm Strat and buy the mats needed to lvl Engineering?
It helps to have mining while leveling and drop it for enchanting later, but you should have another character that mines for you forsure
can you please make a guide how to pull live and undead side in one pull cuz I've heard some people are doing undead and live in 10 min runs
actually, the beasts deck supposedly supplies a trinket for healers that is supposedly bis into sunwell, i've been tryin to farm Ace of Beasts from The Beast in UBRS on a private server with my feral druid tanking and my geared dps mage doing the dmg but i've killed him 5 times and it hasn't dropped yet. It probably will sell for 1000g.
2 of the dark moon sets are BiS until BT for certain specs..
how do you hvae so much Spell power ? not even me with flasks or elixirs
Ditch reckoning ... ever heard of parry haste?
Kinda wishing I had a 70 pala right about now
Make one! I got my PvP Enhance and PvE Pally 👍
Hi ! Ty for guide !
Can u solo kill baron ?
Can you clarify the whole healers thing? are you running solo or not?
He just said in the video he's leveling his alts so he has access to a priest and a druid(his alts in there with him)
@@JoshLineberry Yeah I remember that, but my questions were because if he needs heals to do the instance then it's not really soloable by the rest of us unless we also bring a healer. So I wanted him to clarify if it was 100% soloable and his healers were just icing on the cake.
6969 g 69 s 69 c in pocket. What an absolute legend!
I was just gonna say that lmfaooo
Nice
Love the videos man, havent built the resolve to actually go in and try this myself yet but I definitely will soon. Im sick of mote farming lmao.
do this. I don't understand why everyone and their monkey thinks mote farming is efficient. All the mobs and loot are yours in solo dungeons and you won't be driven insane constantly fighting for limited mobs.
how much spell power is good?
meanwhile righteous orbs on my server go for like 4g and the large shards are only like 2g so barely more than vendoring the blues
Love your video and especially your actionbar setup. Im gonna copy that right away!
Yo that pull looks diffrent from the normal one, any video on it? Great content as always :)
what you are forgetting are the elite mobs which are considered +5 to 10 level mobs. and u dont need engineering u can use easy throw dynamite 2 and its cheap to make or have made. also the aquamarine.... its for the run speed enchant thats why its higher priced.
Is the sporegarr shield better for aoe farming than a pure defensive shield?
y
Just use a good def shield, on paper those aoe shields are better in practice it's fancyful garbage that might get you killed in a pull where a standard def shield would have made it easy to live. You don't even save a single cast of consecrate in a pull with the damage the sporegar shield puts out.
Don't join the fad...or you know test it yourself and you will see how much more damage you will take for a pittance of extra dps.
What inventory addon or settings is this?
Hey, i made 3 force reactive shields, a huge boost when farming this. its easily an extra 10% damage overall and is 100% worthwhile to see if you can get a few made. huge damage and relatively cheap old world mats.
On hardcore officials it could be cool you had to complete the classic content to unlock an epic quest to open the dark portal and so on...
Keep your essence's of undeath or sell as annihilators! When I played prot pally on private server recently I got annihilators made for myself and the other prot pallys, a great weapon to switch to when your not actively tanking a boss in 25mans as it boosts your raid dps by 600 armor shred. Sounds like nothing but there are fights like Fathomlord where after your add is killed you're better off buffing your raid dps rather than smacking with your spell damage weapon. Just to meme I slapped unholy weapon enchant on it to lower boss dmg by 15 lolol.
*Also keep your Vibroblade from Blade's edge and slap Mongoose on it for BiS speed weapon for blessing of wisdom regen.
Side note, keep portals decks. They are still worth it at 70 since they give a % of life and mana on rez. Also they work in arena and BG's. Twister nether decks are super fun to play around with.
What is the best way, for a holy paladin to get gear.
healing raids
Just heal dungeons > heroic dungeons > raids. If you got gold you can buy some boe gear (or if you got tailoring that'd be good for whitemend gear which is hella expensive)
those mobs literally charge and throw me away rapidly
. literally rapidly.. that's insane can't pull them
on my server selling boost runs in strat go for 20-25g per run, thats an extra 80-100g per run, x5 thats 400g per hour just in exp boost payments ontop of the shit you sell.
what i do is just vendor blues and greens at a set threshhold, assuming of course it's not a boe with stats someone would actually probably use like an of the monkey item, like if it's green item and it vendors for 2g90s+ that's close enough to waht i'd probably get out of disenchanting it and it's instant rather than worrying about selling it, and for blues it's about the same 3g+ might as well vendor, although on the private server the large brilliants sell like hotcakes at 7-8g each which is crazy to me cus they are super easy to get, you're not just getting blues from bosses the tier .05 set pieces are dropping randomly off trash like the bracers of valor and devout belt, DE those too, although i have sold some of those on ah for the same price i would get for sharding it, the beaststalker belt has good stats so i usually try to sell those. other times i take some of the .05 pieces like the caster bracers and put like a +7 intellect or stamina enchant on it to make it more appealing while still putting it at a low reasonable price like 7g to ensure it will sell and it is supplying the community with good stuff.
Is it worth it without enchanting?
Dumb question, but how do you check how much spell power you have
its on your character stat sheet. Select "Spell" on the drop down menu.
its mob weapon skill vs your defense, and your weapon skill vs mobs defense. @1:40
After a few hours in Strat a few days ago, I went to AH with a ton of rune cloth. Found out they sold for 4g a stack on our AH at the time. All sold - I am rich...
Damn nice that’s down to like 1.2 g on my server
Wtf runecloth is just above vendor price on my server, and has been like that for weeks. Like 4.2s per one
feels like your server hes 100 players xD
@@KoloriGaming definitely a few hundred, but you are probably not as far off as you should have been.
Skullflame EU alliance.
This talent build has pretty much been my go to since I've seen it. Just not a big fan of the cast time on Avenger's shield and will wait for it to be instant cast
I see you don't have [Wrath of Cenarius]. That ring is BiS for gold farming, highly recommended.
Prices on Herod are ass compared to alot of yall haha. LBS are 4.5g, Orbs are 6g. Having more spell power Def helps the rubs over all. I'm usually running around 350SP and can clear with little issue but having 400 to 450 would be perfect tbh.
Pristine Black Diamonds are also used for pally epic mounts horde side.
Still worth nothing tho lol
ok need to know more about the second live pull with pocket healers...otherwise that pull is just insane impossible
Why not just do like 50% of the server population.... Bot. Saves you both time and money.
"sneak in Strat runs inbetween dungeon groups" yea okay bro tanks instantly get groups. It's all about what THEY want to do. You ain't waiting on shit
Makes me smile when you still get excited by loot. It is the game we love. Ps, who's us?
tl.dr:
450g/h saying 12 min per run
- not counting to take the 5 min run to sell/repair after every id.
-also not counting in that you cant do 5 runs per hour for hours because you only can do 4/h since the lockout starts when you leave the dungeon.
-uses "pocket healer" ? so its not solo? i didnt get that part of the video
he's leveling his alts in there, so he has access to a healer. you don't need that, but hes doing a slightly different route to pull more mobs. watch the video again and i'm sure you get it :P
I haven't got there yet myself, but amazing video thank you.
Subbed from a fellow protty.
enchant mats worth nothing on gehenas, have to sell every blue and greens
if ur doing it on gehenas can u tell me how much gold u get in hour?and ur horde or ally?
I like this dude as a person.
239g in disenchanting mats in 5 IDs? What kind of a server are you on?! :D
Shards are down to 2g each on Venoxis :/
Edit: had no idea dust was worth that much again. Thanks for the tip!
DONT VENDOR THE CARDS - They will be used in Wrath again for the immortal title
Wdym?
Bro, how to lvl up enchanting fast :D
In 1 hour i do 4 runs which is not bad i think, i search crates for holy water and open chests so i think i could be faster but with a few repair bots at my side it really speeds up the pace.
I dont know what are the odds but i got all my bankers on all 5 accounts with ...fordays before i ever saw one of your vids. eg: clothfordays,skinfordays,gemsfordays,dustfordays,matsfordays,miscfordays to name a few
Currently leveling 2 pala prot+heal 3x bm hunters team (had prot war, priest, 3x frost mages before, but i noticed if i swap one of the mages for the main (4th) hunter (same pre-raid bis equivalent) dps was better than 3x mages. Testing out my theory that 3x bm hunters in high level dungeons is the way to go
A new video, wonderful :) leveling my dwarf paladin atm
Also again, you're not doing 24 hours, you're doing 24 x 1 hour. That's a 25% difference in the number of IDs.
the mages are the dislikes
having pocket healers is not something feasible for me maybe (unless i boost people and ask them to heal me for the massive pulls), but all i wanna say is thnx for the video guides i was able to buy my epic flying mount in like 4 days of boosting customers :)
As an Engi....Avengers shields not even that useful unless my trinkets down.
What grenade do you pull tbc dungeons with?
@@hvyarms4496 I use the Engi trinket. Rocket launcher. Or just any bombs I have laying in my bags.
I actually got those exact three epics during my farm yesterday!! 😂😂
What's it like farming holy water as a non-dwarf?
Ur a paladin... Cleanse
I can spend 24h in Stratholme too, and probably not clear it.
Managed to get two stockade pauldrons in the same pull. Just what!
Maybe I should've leveled enchanting, instead of blacksmithing.
Depends on the server econ. Shards are kinda low on my AH.
shards at 2,3g on my server atm, prices crashed :o
Really like your streams and videos!
One thing though... I feel like your streams have a lot more energy and enthusiams, which your videos kind of seem to lack.
Maybe it's just me though.
Keep up the good work! The vid was very informative!
I prefer this style, chill and informative
great video, more plzs
Have an alt make heavy runecloth bandages sells for more than cloth
Indeed that Avenger shield is bad.
my record has been in 17h 6,6k gold without the shards doing the 3pull strat having boosties
How much per boost do you take? 😁
I was so confused on the last pull, cant explain myself how you got healed... than i saw the druid xD
Nah it’s a trinket , 2 min cd, 20 sec on use. Each block gives 120 hp, no one healed him (:
@@Stlucifertv He was also being healed by the druid lol. Watch the druid mana bar. First heal was trinket then the druid helped after.
@@TranceEmotion yep
Get the Farmlog addon, this will help a lot
Says Essence of Undeath is basically useless.. displays Annihilator next..
I make 600g an hour in NS as a rogue and I dont think I want to tell anyone how lol
NS?
@@efrainjgonzalezcolmenares8108 netherstorm
400 gph is usual double gathering rate. Without effort lol.
No one talking about the 6969g 69s and 69c XD
you need to pump it, bro !!! get you some vengeance and watch em burn 230 damage conc ticks muhahahaha
Post more content, its good shit
As a prot pala you just NEED alchemy! The Mad Alchemist's Potion and the Fel Blossoms are so great and cheap and they don't share the same CD!
Just trolling with the gold in inventory
Large brils down to 2g on my server ):
6969g 69s 69c. Nice.
greater eternals are like 15g on my server atm, so Im fucking DEing everything right now, large brilliants are only 2.5-3g so yeah actually better to vendor some blues lmao
man sounds high
you should not vendor the beast deck >_
Hi! Really loving the videos, just subscribed. I was talking with a guildie about Lichen Guard, who said it's very overrated, not worth. He was saying a pure mitigation shield better bc the dmg isn't high enough. He referenced this video (pasted below), which says, "Petrified Lichen Guard didn't do enough dmg to cause me to cast even one less consecration, so what's the point?"
Wanted to see what you thought about that. I want Lichen Guard to be good because it's cool, haha.
th-cam.com/video/z5ZR8xlvufA/w-d-xo.html
i came to wow to avoid math Lol
Note you need a lot less gear if you don't suck. Something to be said for spending more time playing your character than doing math.
I immediately distrust any guide that even uses the words "auction house"
just look at the gold from raw silver/gray items then :P then add a bit extra from green/blue items you vendor
Why get baited into another blizzard fail? Get a real vanilla experience. Darrowshire launches fresh July 30th. No world buffs, 12 month server timeline. No Bots, no micros. Play a real server and not want to rope while you do it!
TBC has been a let down...shit has been boring
Made 150g per hours ,this farm sucks