Raphael: You give me the crown, and I'll give you the hammer to help free Orpheus, what do you say? Me: No deal. Raphael: Okay, how about this... you give me the crown... and I fix Karlach's infernal engine. Me: Okay. You have my attention.
I would do this in a heartbeat. Please, Larian, give us a way to give our girl an actual happy ending. She deserves it more than maybe anyone except Astarion, in terms of fucked up backstories.
Dude, i sat there stunned while she was giving this speech. I litterally just said nothing in response. I was felt so insanely bad for her. It was unfair and unjust.
Absolutely!!!!!! And I thought I fucked up first. I thought she left for good. I was so shocked that I didn't think right. I reloaded and tried to prevent that scene. 😅
@@sasukekun1997 That would actually be really cool. She's loosing her shit so much here that touching her would burn someone in the moment again, and Tav giving her a hug and not letting go despite the pain. Well that's just a chef's kiss.
I stopped playing the game for a while to cry after that scene. I always compared Karlach to my friend back at high school who died via cancer. He had the same personality and attitude as her, always looking at the bright side of life. But like Karlach, he also snapped and sunk into the lowest point of his life because of his illness. I was in the front row when he wailed in despair. No matter how I always say to myself that it won't get any worse, reality would have its way on me to remind me otherwise. A cruel reminder that yeah, life isn't fair. Took me a week before I play BG3 again to continue.
@@Da_little_berry I mean there is a LOT of games that can give emotions. 99% of the time are the situation/context on top of the sad track music. But a voice actor who acheive that by herself? I dont know a lot actually
Neil's performance as Astarion is amazing and all, but this scene is just so incredible. She deserves as much love as Neil gets, this scene brought me to tears.
my god. my poor little heart cant take this.... the voice actress 10/10 performance. Karlach is always acting a bit silly. but when the serious side comes out. god damn. trough out that entire dialogue i was hoping for a hug ... she needed one. and that last love you. FUCK YOU LARIAN (but well done) i will turn the faerun inside out for a cure!
Try not to cry. Cry a lot. Fucking love karlach. The line she says to you at camp made me cry so hard. From every frenzy scream she echoes to the skies, all the times she bailed us out with her tavern brawler skills, all her wonderful dialogue and the voice actor who made this wonderful character come to life. Will forever be one of my all time favorite game characters.
2:57 this is amazing voice acting only a few times in my life I have heard someone do that such a sound of deep raw anger and sadness and this voice actress did it so perfectly. They casted so well in this game.
I told my group to not talk during this cutscene because we used karlach as our 4th the entire game. I saw this before hand and needed them to hear it saying "this shit fucking hurts" and after it was pretty quiet between us. Such a painful scene
The "Am I fucking missing something?!" got to me. She knows the hand she's been dealt is unfair. She knows she is basically at her own end. She has defeated the one big asshole in her Life she wanted to get Revenge on (apart from Zariel) and now there's just a hole of sorts until her very own end. Really just heartbreaking
I got to this scene today and can’t stop thinking about it. Remarkable performance, ripped my heart out. Also I appreciate the platonic “love you” at the end. Like yes, that’s my Tav’s best friend 😂😭 Really makes me want to join the chorus for wanting more non-romantic hugs because Karlach needs one.
Man it's not fair........she only has 3 choices and all of them aren't great. It's either lose your humanity and become a mind flayer, back to avernous for an eternity of fighting....or become dust....
Pretty much every companion VA, plus the villains are perfect. But this scene and the end scene at the docks with Karlach are simply astonishing. Those two plus Astarion after you beat Cazador honestly have set the bar for gaming VAs
I know it's never going to happen, but I'd have honestly paid near full price for an exception to BG3 where it's you Karlach and Wyll running around Avernus, fighting of Zariel's legions. Maybe getting involved in the demons vs devils war they've got going on down there
That scene hit me so hard. Never experienced such a heartbreak moment before in gaming and i guess somehow everyone can share their feeling of feeling betrayed by ur life/destiny. I really hope the release a DCL (or simply bring back all the cut content) in which u can restore the crown either for mystra or gale and get a "wish" spell as a reward. Either to heal karlach or, if u choose the "good" side ending for astarion, to restore his humanity.
Karlach’s scene here, and ‘we did it soldier’ end scene. Broken, ugly sobbing tore through me. But she’s in Avernus with Wyll, that’s better then dead 😭
This is one off those moments to just let a person relieve those emotions honestly she had build up so much hatred and so much anger that when her source for all this rage was gone she didn’t know what to do with those emotions so with she doesn’t have much of a choice but to let them all out unfortunately they will be let out on Tav you know she doesn’t hate you or anything but she needs this she even apologizes back at the camp when you talk with her again
Mate, Karlach was the whole reason I decided to take Orin's deal (plus, after Raphael and the Emperor, it was the most appealing and straightforward deal I had received in the entire game). I just wanted to kill Gortash, revive him and kill him again for what he did to Karlach. When she gave this speech I just stopped playing and stared into space for a long time while cursing Gortash and wanting to kill Zariel and everyone associated with her (I'm looking mostly at you, Mizora). Man, the voice cast and Larian did an amazing job with these characters, but some left me just in awe: Shart with the Nightsong and later on with her parents, Lae'zel in the creche after being betrayed by Vlaakith, Astarion after killing Cazador and Karlach in this scene.
Just finished the game the other day, got to this scene, and just…started crying. I didn’t use Karlach too much in my playthrough as I was a fighter and my play style just never needed her too much, but once I remembered in act 3 that…she’s not going to make it, I took her everywhere. Did whatever she wanted, went to the circus with her, tried to make her happy. I *sobbed* at this scene. Because unlike Astarion, a well-written character in his own right, Karlach’s still a good person. She never wanted other people to suffer because of what she went through. To see her just break down like this was heartbreaking, because she’s 100% right. It isn’t fucking fair. I chose to let her make her own decision at the end, and she went to Avernus with Wyll. I know we’re not getting a dlc, so in my mind Wyll and Karlach do find a cure and all is well. I will accept nothing else.
This ended up being a combination of two of my greatest anxieties in life - my own ongoing fear of death and dying, and the bottomless sadness of watching something terrible happen to someone I cared about while I could do absolutely nothing to help or make it better. I've had to watch friends hearts break as they parted from me (not by dying, thankfully) knowing that we wouldn't see each other again for a long time, and it was one of the saddest things I've ever experienced. To see something more irrevocable than that, like death - I'd have no choice but to work as hard as I could to find a way to help, while also being there for them until the very end. And plus I hate the thought of dying. Her cries of wanting to live, wanting to stay, not wanting it to be like that - it resonated deep. I was a mess. It's beautiful. This scene is beautiful.
Karlach might as well be talking directly to the writer who thought this was a great ending for her character. Every single character can have a good ending, except Karlach. The world can be saved from Mindflayer fuckery, but not Karlach. If you want to tell a story of a doomed character take Thane from Mass Effect for example, one of the first things he tells you is that he is dying. There is no false hope of changing his fate (like the two upgrades to Karlach's infernal engine) and he himself is at peace with his end. I really don't understand what the writing team was thinking.
@@Smith-rb1qf It's weird. But if I remember correctly, her character was the last one to be added in early access maybe Larian just didn't have enough time. Her quests are just get some iron while other characters have a lot more going on.
I had to spend 50 hours just to get her to 'like me', then another 300 'to be my love', then another 20 hours to lover her so much, we went down to Avernus with Will in hand. I missed some stuff sure, but seeing all the potential endlines, Karlach is it. - Dragonbourne female
Where does she go after this? I cannot find her anywhere and she has one of the stones in her inventory. She's not at camp after resting a few days and her inventory isn't in the camp chest. I cannot continue the game without all three stones. Please help.
My one complaint with this game is that sometimes the background music doesn’t fit with what’s going on in the scenes. This scene still killed me though
I'm not at that stage of the game yet, but fuck.... I have to save Karlach, it's not possible for the only ending to her story to be her death.... PS: DON'T SPOIL ANYTHING! Pretty please.
And you can't give her back what was stolen from her no matter what ending. Why Larian? Such bullshit and why I give this game an 8.5 instead of a 9.5.
Raphael: You give me the crown, and I'll give you the hammer to help free Orpheus, what do you say?
Me: No deal.
Raphael: Okay, how about this... you give me the crown... and I fix Karlach's infernal engine.
Me: Okay. You have my attention.
Oh wow. This would have saved Raphael's ass for sure.
Ooooooh. Yeah, would.
I would do this in a heartbeat. Please, Larian, give us a way to give our girl an actual happy ending. She deserves it more than maybe anyone except Astarion, in terms of fucked up backstories.
Oh, man, that would've made killing him a much harder choice.
If only Raphael's wise enough, he would have win fair and square.
The most heartbreaking scene of the game
This and shadowheart's redemption epilogue were she remembers all the cruelties she has done
Agree. These 2. And good astarion after smiting cazador.
I cried at mindflayer karlach monologue. "I will live"😢
@@Danilepticastarion crying after killing him will always get me
It’s even more heartbreaking if you don’t romance her. She talks about becoming a pile of ash when she returns to camp.
Samantha Béart deserves as much recognition for Karlach as Neil Newbon as Astarion. This scene clearly shows why.
Dude, i sat there stunned while she was giving this speech. I litterally just said nothing in response. I was felt so insanely bad for her. It was unfair and unjust.
i jsut hit this spot without knowing about it...daaaaaaaaaaang
Absolutely!!!!!! And I thought I fucked up first. I thought she left for good. I was so shocked that I didn't think right. I reloaded and tried to prevent that scene. 😅
They should've added a hug option in this scene. I can't stand looking at her this sad without hugging her.
My god. Same here. I really wanted the option to just shut up and hug her.
same, idc if I take 6d8 fire damage doing so. She NEEDS a hug here
@@sasukekun1997 That would actually be really cool. She's loosing her shit so much here that touching her would burn someone in the moment again, and Tav giving her a hug and not letting go despite the pain. Well that's just a chef's kiss.
I was sitting there waiting for a hug option. Biggest let down of the year
I stopped playing the game for a while to cry after that scene. I always compared Karlach to my friend back at high school who died via cancer. He had the same personality and attitude as her, always looking at the bright side of life. But like Karlach, he also snapped and sunk into the lowest point of his life because of his illness. I was in the front row when he wailed in despair. No matter how I always say to myself that it won't get any worse, reality would have its way on me to remind me otherwise. A cruel reminder that yeah, life isn't fair. Took me a week before I play BG3 again to continue.
I’m sorry for ur loss ❤
i’m so sorry for your loss 🥺🤍
God that's... that's just sad, i hope you're doing better and that your friend is looking down at you from up there
I cried so hard at that. Never has a game made me stop and bawl my eyes out like that before. Her voice actor deserves an award.
Did you play FFX or Nier replicant / gestalt ? >.>
And agreed, they kinda all do deserve one. The writers as well.
This scene broke my heart.
@@Da_little_berry or the Ori games 🥲
@@Da_little_berry I mean there is a LOT of games that can give emotions. 99% of the time are the situation/context on top of the sad track music.
But a voice actor who acheive that by herself? I dont know a lot actually
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That delivery of "It was MINE, and they took it" always makes me tear up...
Neil's performance as Astarion is amazing and all, but this scene is just so incredible. She deserves as much love as Neil gets, this scene brought me to tears.
Samantha Béart needs to win an award for her performance of Karlach. This scene solidifies it.
Astarion was great but that scene really was perfectly executed. She should've been nominated too.
*their. But yeah, they absolutely killed it in this scene!
my god. my poor little heart cant take this.... the voice actress 10/10 performance. Karlach is always acting a bit silly. but when the serious side comes out. god damn. trough out that entire dialogue i was hoping for a hug ... she needed one. and that last love you. FUCK YOU LARIAN (but well done) i will turn the faerun inside out for a cure!
20/10 I loved it!!!
Try not to cry. Cry a lot. Fucking love karlach. The line she says to you at camp made me cry so hard. From every frenzy scream she echoes to the skies, all the times she bailed us out with her tavern brawler skills, all her wonderful dialogue and the voice actor who made this wonderful character come to life. Will forever be one of my all time favorite game characters.
2:57 this is amazing voice acting only a few times in my life I have heard someone do that such a sound of deep raw anger and sadness and this voice actress did it so perfectly. They casted so well in this game.
Hearing the instrumental “I Want To Live” motif in the context of this scene sent shivers down my spine
they play it even harder in her ending vignette where she accepts death as the sun rises over Baldur's Gate
I heard Will Ramos scream in my head:
"After all I've done? AFTER ALL OF MY PAIN!?!"
Unexpected Lorna Shore?! @@PrinsB
This hit so hard after that fight, just Karlach letting it all out and how scared she is
This was seriously a stunning performance and I think it very well might be the best one in the context of video game history.
let’s not get crazy now
TLOU2 certainly had some moments that would give it a run but…yes it is certainly in my all time hall of fame
I told my group to not talk during this cutscene because we used karlach as our 4th the entire game. I saw this before hand and needed them to hear it saying "this shit fucking hurts" and after it was pretty quiet between us. Such a painful scene
The "Am I fucking missing something?!" got to me. She knows the hand she's been dealt is unfair. She knows she is basically at her own end. She has defeated the one big asshole in her Life she wanted to get Revenge on (apart from Zariel) and now there's just a hole of sorts until her very own end. Really just heartbreaking
All I wanted to do was hug her!
I'm kinda upset there's no option to hug her in this scene.
I got to this scene today and can’t stop thinking about it. Remarkable performance, ripped my heart out. Also I appreciate the platonic “love you” at the end. Like yes, that’s my Tav’s best friend 😂😭 Really makes me want to join the chorus for wanting more non-romantic hugs because Karlach needs one.
That is perhaps the first performance in *years* that's gotten me actually crying at a work of fiction, well done.
It's so sad but its honestly one of the best cutscenes in video games.
Man it's not fair........she only has 3 choices and all of them aren't great. It's either lose your humanity and become a mind flayer, back to avernous for an eternity of fighting....or become dust....
This game is full of absurdly good performances, but this scene might legit be the best one.
Karlach and Astarion made me cry so much in this game.
Pretty much every companion VA, plus the villains are perfect.
But this scene and the end scene at the docks with Karlach are simply astonishing. Those two plus Astarion after you beat Cazador honestly have set the bar for gaming VAs
Best acting in the game.
I know it's never going to happen, but I'd have honestly paid near full price for an exception to BG3 where it's you Karlach and Wyll running around Avernus, fighting of Zariel's legions. Maybe getting involved in the demons vs devils war they've got going on down there
I cried.
That scene hit me so hard. Never experienced such a heartbreak moment before in gaming and i guess somehow everyone can share their feeling of feeling betrayed by ur life/destiny.
I really hope the release a DCL (or simply bring back all the cut content) in which u can restore the crown either for mystra or gale and get a "wish" spell as a reward. Either to heal karlach or, if u choose the "good" side ending for astarion, to restore his humanity.
I heard that in the epilogue karlach will mention how she and wyll found a possible cure for her heart while in avernus
This is the first scene in this game where I legitimately cried
Karlach’s scene here, and ‘we did it soldier’ end scene. Broken, ugly sobbing tore through me. But she’s in Avernus with Wyll, that’s better then dead 😭
This is SUCH a good scene and delivery.
this monologue makes me cry every fucking time
This is one off those moments to just let a person relieve those emotions honestly she had build up so much hatred and so much anger that when her source for all this rage was gone she didn’t know what to do with those emotions so with she doesn’t have much of a choice but to let them all out unfortunately they will be let out on Tav you know she doesn’t hate you or anything but she needs this she even apologizes back at the camp when you talk with her again
Her Romanze breakd my heart thats the first time in my 35 years gaming that i Fell in love witn an npc companion 😢
Mate, Karlach was the whole reason I decided to take Orin's deal (plus, after Raphael and the Emperor, it was the most appealing and straightforward deal I had received in the entire game). I just wanted to kill Gortash, revive him and kill him again for what he did to Karlach.
When she gave this speech I just stopped playing and stared into space for a long time while cursing Gortash and wanting to kill Zariel and everyone associated with her (I'm looking mostly at you, Mizora).
Man, the voice cast and Larian did an amazing job with these characters, but some left me just in awe: Shart with the Nightsong and later on with her parents, Lae'zel in the creche after being betrayed by Vlaakith, Astarion after killing Cazador and Karlach in this scene.
Only time I cried in BG3. Voice acting is so raw and beautiful. Feel so bad for Karlach.
I remember almost crying at this scene, I wanted to hug her so bad
I think this moment hit harder for me too because I had the music off, so hearing her scream her heart out in dead silence was so :(
Just finished the game the other day, got to this scene, and just…started crying. I didn’t use Karlach too much in my playthrough as I was a fighter and my play style just never needed her too much, but once I remembered in act 3 that…she’s not going to make it, I took her everywhere. Did whatever she wanted, went to the circus with her, tried to make her happy. I *sobbed* at this scene. Because unlike Astarion, a well-written character in his own right, Karlach’s still a good person. She never wanted other people to suffer because of what she went through. To see her just break down like this was heartbreaking, because she’s 100% right. It isn’t fucking fair. I chose to let her make her own decision at the end, and she went to Avernus with Wyll. I know we’re not getting a dlc, so in my mind Wyll and Karlach do find a cure and all is well. I will accept nothing else.
Pls, let me save her pls
Meanwhile me not getting this scene becuase she was dead at the end of the encounter, so it bugged out: *IS THIS MY REWARD, FOR FIGHTING. A BUG?*
"All of it, so I could rot. Because the person I trusted the most gave me away to the devil."
This ended up being a combination of two of my greatest anxieties in life - my own ongoing fear of death and dying, and the bottomless sadness of watching something terrible happen to someone I cared about while I could do absolutely nothing to help or make it better.
I've had to watch friends hearts break as they parted from me (not by dying, thankfully) knowing that we wouldn't see each other again for a long time, and it was one of the saddest things I've ever experienced. To see something more irrevocable than that, like death - I'd have no choice but to work as hard as I could to find a way to help, while also being there for them until the very end.
And plus I hate the thought of dying. Her cries of wanting to live, wanting to stay, not wanting it to be like that - it resonated deep.
I was a mess.
It's beautiful. This scene is beautiful.
*(resurrect Gortash and force him to apologize to Karlach)* would be a hilarious option in this scene if the mc was a psychopath xd
I would 100% spare He Who Was if I were able to do that with him
I mean you can
But I don’t think he has soul or something like that
If Raphael was smart, he couldve ask us give him the crown and he will fix Karlach heart issue
I would take dat deal in heartbeat
That would be great deal
i wish you could hug her in this scene....😢
man. its gonna be a while until a game makes me feel like that again
I felt exactly like my Tav here: no fucking clue what to do. She’d become my Tav’s best friend, too, and this just… shit, man. Damn good writing.
Fr tho, starfield never had a chance.
I dont care if i get burnt, let me hug her damn it!
such amazing voice acting in this scene
I relate to this far harder than I should. "The loneliness. The fucking loneliness!"
This was the moment when I realized I needed to get Wyll in to the Hells with Karlach. She needs someone there.
This hits right in the feels. Absolutely incredible voice acting and writing. Holy shit that was brilliant
Wait until the end game, your heart will be broke again.
This scene just really hurts for me. Made me cried a bit
Between her and Astarion 🥺😭 I need to protect them with all I have!!
There is definitely some super secret way to save her, every character in the game has a neutral/Goodish ending. Why can’t she?
Like, perhaps there is a hidden combination of items you can craft?
if wyll doesn't become a duke he will go accompany her in avernus. that's the closest to a good ending I suppose
She lives if she transforms into a MF to stop the end boss; that ending for her was pretty unambiguously good, tbh.
her good endings were connected to the cut content in the upper city.
@@gingergreenmashups if romanced you can both go with her now.
Karlach might as well be talking directly to the writer who thought this was a great ending for her character. Every single character can have a good ending, except Karlach. The world can be saved from Mindflayer fuckery, but not Karlach. If you want to tell a story of a doomed character take Thane from Mass Effect for example, one of the first things he tells you is that he is dying. There is no false hope of changing his fate (like the two upgrades to Karlach's infernal engine) and he himself is at peace with his end. I really don't understand what the writing team was thinking.
that sometimes you can't get a good ending despite how hard you try. some things are beyond your control.
@@fhrizo the thing is, if you play Karlach as an origin character, there seems to be a third upgrade to your infernal engine that cures you.
@@user-if7zm Huh so the only way to save Karlach is to be Karlach so she can get plot armor.
@@Smith-rb1qf It's weird. But if I remember correctly, her character was the last one to be added in early access maybe Larian just didn't have enough time. Her quests are just get some iron while other characters have a lot more going on.
Dlc to that cold circle of hell to get some component to eternally cool her
I had to spend 50 hours just to get her to 'like me', then another 300 'to be my love', then another 20 hours to lover her so much, we went down to Avernus with Will in hand. I missed some stuff sure, but seeing all the potential endlines, Karlach is it.
- Dragonbourne female
Someone give her a hug holy shit
Ive searched reaction about this scene but i cant finde a single reaction, anyways her voice actres is extreamely good
Amazing acting
Guys, If she goes alone it gets better
This fucking destroyed me.
Tried to watch this yesterday but it bugged out the whole time. Seeing it now on TH-cam... Wow...
Pain Remains II - Lorna Shore
The rest of these guys don't have anything on Karlach and Astarion.
larian should add an ending idc how and what they do but make it so i can save her
What does she say if you tell her she can go back to Avernus?
Where does she go after this? I cannot find her anywhere and she has one of the stones in her inventory. She's not at camp after resting a few days and her inventory isn't in the camp chest. I cannot continue the game without all three stones. Please help.
Well she goes to the camp dont know what happened try load an old save and try again
My one complaint with this game is that sometimes the background music doesn’t fit with what’s going on in the scenes. This scene still killed me though
this scene's music is literally an adaptation of the song "I want to live", which you get to hear, with lyrics, between act 2 and 3.
Shouldn’t the scroll of true resurrection regrow her a new heart?
THIS is how you write a female character!
I'm not at that stage of the game yet, but fuck.... I have to save Karlach, it's not possible for the only ending to her story to be her death....
PS: DON'T SPOIL ANYTHING! Pretty please.
There are 3 endings for her
Se me crasheó el juego mientras se reproducia esta escena y no pude verla 👍🏻👍🏻🥲
Oh man that mid-dialogue save really breaks the immersion
wym, thisnis the most relatable BG3 gamrplay ever hahaha
Especially when you can just F5 lol
Karlach's overlooking one solution. Why doesn't she turn to a god?
Saving mid dialogue? weak blood
And you can't give her back what was stolen from her no matter what ending. Why Larian? Such bullshit and why I give this game an 8.5 instead of a 9.5.
Disliked cause you save scummed
Yeah i understand
He saved, but didn't scum