I am a big fan of Matt and OG, having ordered a full Kranzle power wash set up from him, including the MTM PF22.2 cannon. I hated having to mix my soap using that tiny opening in the top. Also had trouble with 2 of them. I actually found the BOSS myself, before Matt started with it at OG, and I am glad he now supports this unit. I have never been a fan of Griot's products, so I was skeptical, but the BOSS is truly fantastic. The ball-weight at the end of the tube is such an ingenious idea, and being able to pour my Adam's Mega Foam directly into the container and have the unit do the water/soap mixing for me is a game-changer. I have one for my wheel foam soap (Brake Buster) and another for foaming the car body. Yes, pricey, but they are in line with other high-end cannons. I use the off-white metering insert in the ball-weight for max foam, and it looks like Christmas in the summer time in my driveway. I can't recommend the BOSS highly enough.
I chose this over the MTM when I ordered my OG spray wand setup over a year ago, it is easily the best foam cannon out there IMO. Honestly, the size of the opening on top was the number one reason for me.
Its just an exceptionally well built device. It doesnt produce as much foam as the MJJC, but it produces as much as it needs to. I've had it over a year and anticipate it lasting many years longer.
I have Adams, MTM, and Griots, I don't notice much difference between the three so don't get too hung up.. Its minor differences between them. Like neck size or bottle shape. They all foam the same
This. I've found the MTM to last the longest. Each I have used for over a year (professional use, almost daily) and the MTM I use every wash. My adams & griots sit in the back of the cabinet, just not as reliable as the mtm
If you use Griots products, you can just screw the foam cannon top to the product bottle. No need to dilute with the correct metering plug for your pressure washer.
Matt - If you like the BOSS foam canon, you gotta try the CHEAPER Brilliant Finish Foam Canon. I don't know how, but the cheaper foam canon from Griots puts out FAR SUPERIOR FOAM! It's crazy. I use 4 oz of Foaming Surface Wash and fill the rest up with water, and you got the thickest shaving cream foam you've ever seen from a foam canon. Period I haven't found a better one yet and I've bought them all, just like you. Great video, very enjoyable watch on a subject I love. Cheers brother!
The Brilliant Finish Foam Cannon comes with a 1.1 oriface installed from Griots, where the BOSS comes with a 1.25. If you put the 1.1 into the BOSS Foam Cannon you’ll get the same crazy thick foam as you do from the Brilliant Finish Foam Cannon.
OK, now I need to go double check I swear swapped it out for a 1.25 one. I'm using a gas pressure washer so I'm usually on top of that. Now I need to go do some more testing LOL. @@jamiestillplayswithcars
The Brilliant Finish cannon is great if you only use it a handful of times a year, I detail professionally and it basically fell apart within 2 months. Clogging and no foam output either, have to disassemble it and use one of my boss foam cannon rebuild kits on it to replace the filter. Cheap price = cheap product.
Excited for this one. One thing I like over the MTM is how it will start foaming immediately instead of waiting that second or two for the MTM to kick in.
@@joshm2243 No. Some things the mjjc did better than mtm (before the mtm upgrade kit) but quality is far superior on both the mtm and griots compared to the mjjc. Mjjc also rifles through soap like no tomorrow.
@@xYuriTardidxmjcc does not innivate but copy other companies! I cant support that and am glad OG wont either. I love my MTM but sooner or later will order this next!
I mean besides maybe a wider mouth bottle, what does the PF22.2 need to change? It works flawlessly for me, even after over a year of professional, hard use.
Id say the main thing for me would be the soft silicone tube with the ball weight so it sucks up everything if its tilted or even upside down. MTM one is too stiff and stays in the center of the bottle.@@dkeator
@Obsessed Garage To answer your dilution question: Percentage of Water = (Volume of Water / Total Volume) * 100% Percentage of Product = (Volume of Product / Total Volume) * 100% Percentage of Water = (22.71246 liters / (22.71246 liters + 1 liter)) * 100% Percentage of Product = (1 liter / (22.71246 liters + 1 liter)) * 100% Calculating these percentages: Percentage of Water = (22.71246 liters / 23.71246 liters) * 100% ≈ 95.7% Percentage of Product = (1 liter / 23.71246 liters) * 100% ≈ 4.3% Going from 1000 ml of product to 6 gallons of product, approximately 95.7% of the mixture is water, and about 4.3% is the original product.
Nice unit from GRIOT'S GARAGE. I have the MTM and just ordered the WIDE MOUTH BOTTLE Retrofit for $16.00. We'll see. I don't have the Money to keep Updating my stuff. If I were a Professional SHOP Maybe. But I don't have the Bucks to Keep Changing stuff out just to see if it works Better. Good Video Matt .
Yea I got this thing earlier this spring based on the opinions of the folks in the FB group when I asked the group what they recommended between it and the MTM. I could not be happier. So well thought out and very stout. Even through photos and videos it looks better made than the MTM.
brother bought one from OG and the stock thread sealer leaked even after cranking on it to try to get it to seal (maybe just unlucky); teflon tape instantly did the trick though. Seems solid other than that (coming from OG MTM)
I've only had to clean the filter in my PF 22 once. After that, I run clean water prior and after each use and it's never clogged again. I could just be in my head on this process but it's worked flawlessly since and it's been used for almost 2 years now.
I've had an MTM for several years. Not used it much simply because dragging out the gas pressure washer is a pain. I just got an electric which is less powerful but sufficient for car washing and easier to setup. So, I will use it more often. I've got an old-school MTM with the weird small-bottom small-neck bottle. Getting a set of three new wide-mouth, flat-bottom MTM bottles was $50, including shipping and tax straight from MTM. Or I could just get a brand new Griot's for about $100. I decided to get the 3 MTM bottles. On order, not received yet. Maybe I should have just got the Griot. Not sure. But I think what I got will do me okay for a while now. There is someone below here in the comments saying that he used the MTM and the Griots professionally daily and found the MTM more reliable. OG disagrees. But that makes me think that sticking with the MTM isn't a bad idea.
been using mine for over a year now and love it, I wonder if this is a newer version then mine and what's different. I haven't yet but will be buying another one to save me time from cleaning it and changing to another product.
@@555fourthstreet8 I’m liking the stainless steel, weighted ball and wide mouth of the griots. I actually like the colors on the pf22 more. But yes of course I care how it looks I like nice things
Of all the foam cannon's I've used, which is a lot, the Griot's has got to be the worst of the bunch. What good are the bottles if the threads don't seal? Quite perplexed at how this is the OG Standard?
There is no "sponsorship". I literally built a business selling the product I actually use. I use this foam cannon, I believe it to be currently the best on the market, and so I sell it. It's really that simple.
@@xYuriTardidx that is the crux of it. It's perplexing to call this the OG Standard when it's demonstrably an inferior product. I couldn't imagine dropping $6k for a week at destination OG only to get the opportunity to fumble around with a Griots for a week. I know Matt doesn't like the MJJC stuff, but it's just one of the many better options. That is all.
What about the quick disconnects for the funnel and the cap to shake it up,you spent all that money for it to fit the MTM and now your griots is a different size 🤦
Not sure if this will be seen or not. Matt, what are you using for the metering tip when using it for break buster? Or are you going without a metering tip for that? Thanks.
I have been using the griots brilliant shine foam cannon for a few years only because it was a little bit cheaper than the boss foam cannon. I have noticed that the ball at the end of the suction tube is not stainless but a cheap metal alloy that rusts if left in the bottle with some product. So I was hoping that the new boss foam cannon is all stainless including the suction ball.
You don’t have to fill the bottle with water, you simply keep squeezing the trigger and plain water will run through rinsing the filter clean. That’s what I’ve been doing. Correct me if I’m wrong?
The injector isn't going to come close to the capabilities of a dedicated foam cannon. I guarantee that if you use one, you will never go back to using an injector.
@@ObsessedGarage the Suttner is a foam injector. I have both MTM and Griots foam cannons and the Suttner injector gives me identical foam. It is as thick as shaving cream.
They sent me a replacement foam cannon free of charge over here to Canada when i didnt purchase from their site, did come with the wrong low profile 1/4 inlet but contacted them again and they sent out the proper 1/4 inlet a few days ago. No issues with their customer service. Sometimes you gotta call some companies to get shit done.
MTM pressure washer nozzles are prone to rusting so bad they become completely plugged & unusable if left in storage for the winter. It’s funny how they say they use 316 stainless yet in actual practice with steady contact with fresh non acidic water it proves to be inferior to 304. None of our equipment will ever come in contact with salt water nor does anyone run acidic water through their hoses, so there’s absolutely no need or benefit in using 316 and real world use shows 304 does not suffer from the rust issues that can and will plague 316 stainless. This is 1 of those situations where some in the detailing industry outsmarted themselves and fixed something that wasn’t broken.
Hi Matt/OG, what about the Griots Brilliant Finish Foam Cannon. I have seen lot of videos, that’s better than the Boss. Any future plans to have that one in stock as well. Great stuff 👍
I've used both this and the MTM pf22.2, safe to say after a year and going through two of these "boss" cannons I never looked back and got the mtm. Better build quality for sure, the Griots falls apart over time and needs constant rebuilds even with filtered water.
@@ObsessedGarage after doing a few hundred plus washes with both the MTM and Boss each, I went through two boss cannons, had Griots send me another & multiple rebuild kits spending unnecessary money on a flawed design. Haven't had a single issue with my PF22.2, this is coming from daily use of sometimes 2-3 cars a day, 5 days a week. So they were both about as used as they can possibly get in the field, over a year later my PF22.2 is still going strong.
With all the info he gives you should be able to design yours on a budget. It's not rocket science. I've used some of his ideas and my garage looks great. Tops for me was less is more with NO clutter and NO white trash Nascar posters on the walls. The garage speaks for itself without all that crap. Everyone that's seen it comments on it.
@@charley95sheridan44You bring up a key point. The very 1st thing you need to do is start with a clean slate and de clutter. Alot of people undervalue making sure they start clean and work clean in order to produce the best results. Some people might think it’s unnecessary, but would you detail a car on a dusty floor? Hell no, make sure you sweep before anything.
It hasn't been 4 years. I don't find the MTM to be deficient in performance. It's just weak in ergonomics. I was hoping that MTM would innovate, but there is no update in site.
M att- If you are investigating dilution rates, etc., it would be helpful to have an accurate flow (water volume) meter on the water "feed" side; maybe as a part of the "garden hose" input. That way, when the foam cannon bottle runs out, you could release the trigger and read out the measured volume. Just a thought, and asuming the entire system is leak-free.
I have this foam cannon but I haven’t been able to get good foam unless I use the product undiluted. Do you have any tips? Specifically, I tried Bilt Hamber Touch-Less, with around 100-150ml with 1000ml of water which I think it’s more than supposed to, and I couldn’t get good foam… have you tried this?
I did a 12x16 last October similar to this. It was an awesome experience, and accomplishment. I built my own doors and did the little pigeon nest thing on the front though.
Have had mine for 4 years since September 2020 and it’s been fantastic. Done two rebuilds (probably due for another one) after multiple washes per month since purchase. Very happy with it, but definitely get yourself an extra resavoir or two. The secondary internal thread for normal bottles was a good idea but standard bottles cannot handle that kind of torque on the necks and WILL break.
Filter and two seals I think is all it contains. Not a difficult rebuild at all. Once you’ve done it once it’ll take you 5 minutes to do it the next time
I sent the wife to buy a €30 cheap snow foam lance, but she couldn't get one so I ordered the new MJJC pro-V3 snow foam lance (€90), the first time I used it she was watching, next thing I heard her shouting that's no fecking €30 snow foam lance, credit to MJJC there is a difference lol
What store sells $30 foam cannons, let alone stocks them on a shelf? [Unless you sent her to the Chemical Guys store or something] And why would you send a woman to buy it knowing there’s a good chance she’s going to mess up somehow? It’s 2024, why wouldn’t you simply order exactly what you sent her across town for and save everyones time and money? This story makes no sense. That’s like her sending you to buy her some Tampons…
Curious why bother with brake buster in a foam cannon? Why not just use an Ik foamer to apply it? I just think it waters it down too much in a foam cannon even if diluted already 3:1 and better foam from IK to cling and dwell
I’m glad you made the switch it’ll force mtm and other companies to innovate and not just around. They got too comfortable and if we’re being honest the mtm compared to the griots is far behind,the threads were terrible and the opening was too darn small.
What will force mtm to innovate? Haven’t they already been doing so? Nothing crazy but they have made minor updates to products and have released some new products over the past year or so?
The ones that connect and work with garden hose are called Foam Guns. These are called Foam Cannons. The difference explained in the previous post^ Watery foam similar consistency of what’s in your 5 gallon bucket vs. nearly shaving cream thick foam that almost doesn’t even need further suds from a bucket. Both are effective yet still there’s a night & day difference when it comes to user experience. Treat yourself to a power washer & foam cannon. You’ll thank yourself.
been using the Griots Foam cannon for a while now. Never ever liked the MTM (small opening was the WORST design ever). Bought the MTM years ago and honestly never liked it. I actually threw it away 2 weeks after buying it. Griots is the one to have.
I got the griots brilliant finish foam cannon and it was good for a couple months and then was garbage. The metal ball corroded my bottle into a nasty yellow spotted bottle. It stopped producing foam and got clogged way too easily and the aluminum got scratched up up so easily. Luckily Griots sent me a rebuild kit for free and a new bottle, but still I don't think it's worth the 65$ I paid for it. The boss foam cannon might be a different story but I would rather get the MJJC instead
@@kmpatonUnlike Shinemate, Maxshine or SPTA, I'm yet to see what MJJC has copied. All of there products seem to be their own design and construction other than catalogue parts like the bottle cap section (which griots also does).
@@ObsessedGarage I’ve been watching the channel a long time and I know Matt is good at what he does. I’ve learned a lot from Matt and implemented some of his ways into my process. Has he ever tested the MJJC? I just see so many pro detailers using it I’m just trying to figure the one that will work for me. Thank you
i still cant believe Matt is still playing with foam cannon..by now he should atleast get suttner down stream foamer..nevermind the lafferty airless foamers..
Suttner foamer doesn’t produce thick foam with the most common pressure washer that people have in their garage. Somebody in YT already tested the Suttner with a Kranzle and it comes out as just soapy water kinda like what you would get out of a garden hose foamer. Suttner foamer will work if you have enough pressure & flow to support it for example Chem X. They use Suttner foamer on a 2500 psi 3.5gpm pressure washer and it works great but on your common pressure washer not so much.
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I am a big fan of Matt and OG, having ordered a full Kranzle power wash set up from him, including the MTM PF22.2 cannon. I hated having to mix my soap using that tiny opening in the top. Also had trouble with 2 of them. I actually found the BOSS myself, before Matt started with it at OG, and I am glad he now supports this unit. I have never been a fan of Griot's products, so I was skeptical, but the BOSS is truly fantastic. The ball-weight at the end of the tube is such an ingenious idea, and being able to pour my Adam's Mega Foam directly into the container and have the unit do the water/soap mixing for me is a game-changer. I have one for my wheel foam soap (Brake Buster) and another for foaming the car body. Yes, pricey, but they are in line with other high-end cannons. I use the off-white metering insert in the ball-weight for max foam, and it looks like Christmas in the summer time in my driveway. I can't recommend the BOSS highly enough.
You should buy the 400 dollar buckets as well
Well they fixed that they got the new wide mouth I got the boss I like my mtm the old style even better
@@brokenSnake And the $525.00 VYPER LOW PRO CHAIR. 😂😂🤷♂🇺🇸.....
I chose this over the MTM when I ordered my OG spray wand setup over a year ago, it is easily the best foam cannon out there IMO. Honestly, the size of the opening on top was the number one reason for me.
Its just an exceptionally well built device. It doesnt produce as much foam as the MJJC, but it produces as much as it needs to. I've had it over a year and anticipate it lasting many years longer.
Never thought I'd see the day. Griots and OG. Crazy.
I've been trying for years.
I have Adams, MTM, and Griots, I don't notice much difference between the three so don't get too hung up.. Its minor differences between them. Like neck size or bottle shape. They all foam the same
This. I've found the MTM to last the longest. Each I have used for over a year (professional use, almost daily) and the MTM I use every wash. My adams & griots sit in the back of the cabinet, just not as reliable as the mtm
If you use Griots products, you can just screw the foam cannon top to the product bottle. No need to dilute with the correct metering plug for your pressure washer.
Matt - If you like the BOSS foam canon, you gotta try the CHEAPER Brilliant Finish Foam Canon. I don't know how, but the cheaper foam canon from Griots puts out FAR SUPERIOR FOAM! It's crazy. I use 4 oz of Foaming Surface Wash and fill the rest up with water, and you got the thickest shaving cream foam you've ever seen from a foam canon. Period I haven't found a better one yet and I've bought them all, just like you. Great video, very enjoyable watch on a subject I love. Cheers brother!
The Brilliant Finish Foam Cannon comes with a 1.1 oriface installed from Griots, where the BOSS comes with a 1.25. If you put the 1.1 into the BOSS Foam Cannon you’ll get the same crazy thick foam as you do from the Brilliant Finish Foam Cannon.
OK, now I need to go double check I swear swapped it out for a 1.25 one. I'm using a gas pressure washer so I'm usually on top of that. Now I need to go do some more testing LOL. @@jamiestillplayswithcars
The Brilliant Finish cannon is great if you only use it a handful of times a year, I detail professionally and it basically fell apart within 2 months. Clogging and no foam output either, have to disassemble it and use one of my boss foam cannon rebuild kits on it to replace the filter. Cheap price = cheap product.
Looks like a great foam canon. Sadly $150+ to get it over to the UK - so using the MJJC pro 2, it’s excellent & produces superb foam👍🏼
That’s more than enough 👌🏼
Finally. The mental on plastic threads were breaking far too often. I had switched to adams but the out spray was meh. I’ll be getting this
“HPDE”-perfectly justifiable car guy mistake 😁👍🏼 love what you do here on the channel, keep it up!
Excited for this one. One thing I like over the MTM is how it will start foaming immediately instead of waiting that second or two for the MTM to kick in.
What is the difference between MTM and MJJC? Isn't MJJC the best foam cannon out there and MTM is the next model down from MJJC?
@@joshm2243 MJJC is the Chinese copy. Griots is the best right now followed by MTM in my opinion.
No, fit and finish of the mtm are leagues above griots and mjjc@@joshm2243
@@joshm2243 No. Some things the mjjc did better than mtm (before the mtm upgrade kit) but quality is far superior on both the mtm and griots compared to the mjjc. Mjjc also rifles through soap like no tomorrow.
I feel like MTM really fell into the Snap-on trap where they rely too much on previous reputation with no innovation or change.
@xYuriTardidx MJJC is an IP theft company. I don't do business with them.
@@xYuriTardidxmjcc does not innivate but copy other companies! I cant support that and am glad OG wont either. I love my MTM but sooner or later will order this next!
@@ObsessedGarageisn’t this like saying you shouldn’t buy a Porsche because they never made the first car? Or for any item you’d care to mention?
I mean besides maybe a wider mouth bottle, what does the PF22.2 need to change? It works flawlessly for me, even after over a year of professional, hard use.
Id say the main thing for me would be the soft silicone tube with the ball weight so it sucks up everything if its tilted or even upside down. MTM one is too stiff and stays in the center of the bottle.@@dkeator
Have two. Ordered when they first came out, great foam, never a problem. The Griot's foaming soaps just screw on, no mixing necessary.
Matt is the man.
@Obsessed Garage To answer your dilution question:
Percentage of Water = (Volume of Water / Total Volume) * 100%
Percentage of Product = (Volume of Product / Total Volume) * 100%
Percentage of Water = (22.71246 liters / (22.71246 liters + 1 liter)) * 100%
Percentage of Product = (1 liter / (22.71246 liters + 1 liter)) * 100%
Calculating these percentages:
Percentage of Water = (22.71246 liters / 23.71246 liters) * 100% ≈ 95.7%
Percentage of Product = (1 liter / 23.71246 liters) * 100% ≈ 4.3%
Going from 1000 ml of product to 6 gallons of product, approximately 95.7% of the mixture is water, and about 4.3% is the original product.
Nice unit from GRIOT'S GARAGE. I have the MTM and just ordered the WIDE MOUTH BOTTLE Retrofit for $16.00. We'll see. I don't have the Money to keep Updating my stuff. If I were a Professional SHOP Maybe. But I don't have the Bucks to Keep Changing stuff out just to see if it works Better. Good Video Matt .
MJJC pro 2.0 has been the best I’ve used by far.
@@xYuriTardidxZero evidence of IP Theft and Foam Cannons have been off patent for years. Just pushing product.
The Griot looks great. I like the metering and the “clunk tube”.I probably won’t replace my 3 MTMs, but as they fail, I will upgrade.
Yea I got this thing earlier this spring based on the opinions of the folks in the FB group when I asked the group what they recommended between it and the MTM. I could not be happier. So well thought out and very stout. Even through photos and videos it looks better made than the MTM.
brother bought one from OG and the stock thread sealer leaked even after cranking on it to try to get it to seal (maybe just unlucky); teflon tape instantly did the trick though. Seems solid other than that (coming from OG MTM)
MJJC V2.0 Snow Foam Cannon is hands down the best
No
@@ObsessedGarage Just because you don't sell it doesn't mean it not better
I've only had to clean the filter in my PF 22 once. After that, I run clean water prior and after each use and it's never clogged again. I could just be in my head on this process but it's worked flawlessly since and it's been used for almost 2 years now.
I’m switching to this cannon for this reason. I’m on my 2nd MTM cannon and tired of dealing with the filter.
Soap comes out of my GG Boss cannon like Barbasol. I love it!
Why do you like barbasol like foam? You don’t want your foam to be that thick.
@@555fourthstreet8why not?
I've had an MTM for several years. Not used it much simply because dragging out the gas pressure washer is a pain. I just got an electric which is less powerful but sufficient for car washing and easier to setup. So, I will use it more often. I've got an old-school MTM with the weird small-bottom small-neck bottle. Getting a set of three new wide-mouth, flat-bottom MTM bottles was $50, including shipping and tax straight from MTM. Or I could just get a brand new Griot's for about $100. I decided to get the 3 MTM bottles. On order, not received yet. Maybe I should have just got the Griot. Not sure. But I think what I got will do me okay for a while now. There is someone below here in the comments saying that he used the MTM and the Griots professionally daily and found the MTM more reliable. OG disagrees. But that makes me think that sticking with the MTM isn't a bad idea.
been using mine for over a year now and love it, I wonder if this is a newer version then mine and what's different. I haven't yet but will be buying another one to save me time from cleaning it and changing to another product.
Have been waiting for you to do a deep dive on this. Can't wait to pick on up.
Just ordered. Looking forward to trying it out
Just recently picked up a pf22 it’s nice but definitely liking how the griots boss looks
You really care about the “looks” for your foam cannon?
@@555fourthstreet8 I’m liking the stainless steel, weighted ball and wide mouth of the griots. I actually like the colors on the pf22 more. But yes of course I care how it looks I like nice things
Of all the foam cannon's I've used, which is a lot, the Griot's has got to be the worst of the bunch. What good are the bottles if the threads don't seal?
Quite perplexed at how this is the OG Standard?
@@PlasticSurgeon205 def seems like a partnership/sponsorship
There is no "sponsorship". I literally built a business selling the product I actually use. I use this foam cannon, I believe it to be currently the best on the market, and so I sell it. It's really that simple.
@@xYuriTardidx that is the crux of it. It's perplexing to call this the OG Standard when it's demonstrably an inferior product. I couldn't imagine dropping $6k for a week at destination OG only to get the opportunity to fumble around with a Griots for a week. I know Matt doesn't like the MJJC stuff, but it's just one of the many better options. That is all.
I don’t care for much of any from griots. Only their leather conditioner. Everything else is just marketing for auto parts store shelf’s.
What about the quick disconnects for the funnel and the cap to shake it up,you spent all that money for it to fit the MTM and now your griots is a different size 🤦
@@xYuriTardidx what about what you don’t make sense,don’t respond if you don’t know what you’re talking about…
Would be interesting to see this paired with the Active 2.0 to see how they pair together as a higher end starter setup
If you have a membership to Inside The Hex, there is a vlog from October 4th in which the OG Yarn crew tested an Active 2.0 with a Griots cannon.
Been using with the OG Active 2.0 system and working great.
@@jonmason6598 1.1 or 1.25 orifice? Thanks!
Not sure if this will be seen or not. Matt, what are you using for the metering tip when using it for break buster? Or are you going without a metering tip for that? Thanks.
No metering. I use is straight with knob turned to full positive.
Matti can we get a OG version of this in blue and OG logo?
Will be ordering one soon...thanks for the info!
I have been using the griots brilliant shine foam cannon for a few years only because it was a little bit cheaper than the boss foam cannon. I have noticed that the ball at the end of the suction tube is not stainless but a cheap metal alloy that rusts if left in the bottle with some product. So I was hoping that the new boss foam cannon is all stainless including the suction ball.
It is stainless on the BOSS.
Regarding rebuiling: if you run a bottle of clear/clean water after your wash solution, you probably will not have to rebuild it.
You don’t have to fill the bottle with water, you simply keep squeezing the trigger and plain water will run through rinsing the filter clean.
That’s what I’ve been doing. Correct me if I’m wrong?
I am running inline Suttner injectors that can siphon around 1,000psi. It gives me nice foam right out of my lanes with no mixing or foam guns.
The injector isn't going to come close to the capabilities of a dedicated foam cannon. I guarantee that if you use one, you will never go back to using an injector.
@@ObsessedGarage the Suttner is a foam injector. I have both MTM and Griots foam cannons and the Suttner injector gives me identical foam. It is as thick as shaving cream.
Great choice MTM's customer service is horrible. Glad your moving on
They sent me a replacement foam cannon free of charge over here to Canada when i didnt purchase from their site, did come with the wrong low profile 1/4 inlet but contacted them again and they sent out the proper 1/4 inlet a few days ago. No issues with their customer service. Sometimes you gotta call some companies to get shit done.
Really? I’ve actually had really good experience with them. How did you try contacting them?
MTM pressure washer nozzles are prone to rusting so bad they become completely plugged & unusable if left in storage for the winter.
It’s funny how they say they use 316 stainless yet in actual practice with steady contact with fresh non acidic water it proves to be inferior to 304.
None of our equipment will ever come in contact with salt water nor does anyone run acidic water through their hoses, so there’s absolutely no need or benefit in using 316 and real world use shows 304 does not suffer from the rust issues that can and will plague 316 stainless.
This is 1 of those situations where some in the detailing industry outsmarted themselves and fixed something that wasn’t broken.
Hi Matt/OG, what about the Griots Brilliant Finish Foam Cannon. I have seen lot of videos, that’s better than the Boss. Any future plans to have that one in stock as well. Great stuff 👍
I have no plans to carry it at the moment. I've tried both with the same configuration and I have better results with the BOSS cannon.
Great job matt 👍
I want to see you dive into the big rig scene I believe that’s a untapped market for your company.
OG Shed part 3? I’m dying over here.
coming soon...
I am a fan of the opening. The 1 inch and 13 little lines is where it’s at.
Hahahaha 13 little lines... aka 1-13/16" or 1.81325" former machinist here... that was a good one...
@@CapnDanTreasuresI’m glad you got a laugh 8 months later. If you watch enough of his videos you’ll hear Matt say it from time to time
Just found this video... I'm late to the game, was a former bucket and sponge guy, now I have a nicer vehicle worth taking better care of so...
I've used both this and the MTM pf22.2, safe to say after a year and going through two of these "boss" cannons I never looked back and got the mtm. Better build quality for sure, the Griots falls apart over time and needs constant rebuilds even with filtered water.
Hmm...I haven't experience that.
@@ObsessedGarage after doing a few hundred plus washes with both the MTM and Boss each, I went through two boss cannons, had Griots send me another & multiple rebuild kits spending unnecessary money on a flawed design. Haven't had a single issue with my PF22.2, this is coming from daily use of sometimes 2-3 cars a day, 5 days a week. So they were both about as used as they can possibly get in the field, over a year later my PF22.2 is still going strong.
I put a silicone tube in my mtm works great
This guy is just so detailed. Wish I had the money for this guy to make up my garage
With all the info he gives you should be able to design yours on a budget. It's not rocket science. I've used some of his ideas and my garage looks great. Tops for me was less is more with NO clutter and NO white trash Nascar posters on the walls. The garage speaks for itself without all that crap. Everyone that's seen it comments on it.
@@charley95sheridan44You bring up a key point. The very 1st thing you need to do is start with a clean slate and de clutter. Alot of people undervalue making sure they start clean and work clean in order to produce the best results.
Some people might think it’s unnecessary, but would you detail a car on a dusty floor? Hell no, make sure you sweep before anything.
Will the 1.25 be enough to keep an active 2.0 under 15amps? Or would a 1.5 need to be installed
1.25 works
If the was an OG approved funnel, would the MTM PF22.2 still be a great cannon?
PF22 is still great. I just think this is better.
@@ObsessedGarage I am not disagreeing with you. The BOSS has been out for at least 4 years. What took so long?
It hasn't been 4 years. I don't find the MTM to be deficient in performance. It's just weak in ergonomics. I was hoping that MTM would innovate, but there is no update in site.
M att- If you are investigating dilution rates, etc., it would be helpful to have an accurate flow (water volume) meter on the water "feed" side; maybe as a part of the "garden hose" input. That way, when the foam cannon bottle runs out, you could release the trigger and read out the measured volume. Just a thought, and asuming the entire system is leak-free.
Great idea.
I have this foam cannon but I haven’t been able to get good foam unless I use the product undiluted. Do you have any tips? Specifically, I tried Bilt Hamber Touch-Less, with around 100-150ml with 1000ml of water which I think it’s more than supposed to, and I couldn’t get good foam… have you tried this?
Change the oriface size the little piece that came with it that should help
And try distilled water in the bottle
I did a 12x16 last October similar to this. It was an awesome experience, and accomplishment. I built my own doors and did the little pigeon nest thing on the front though.
Is a 1.1 or 1.25mm orifice recommended for use with the Active 2.0? Thanks~!
1.25
One of my lil vents came off first use how I get another one
Does this come with an extra black cap to mix? I thought I saw that somewhere.
I didn't see one.
You only get the black cap when you purchase the extra bottle.
Where is the pressure washer spreadsheet link? I have a Craftsman CMXGWAS020733 it says 2.3 GPM but do I trust that?
Since that is gas, it's probably more accurate. They don't inflate those numbers as much.
15:42 Owning up to it, taking accountability. He's been watching his Jordan Peterson.
Have had mine for 4 years since September 2020 and it’s been fantastic. Done two rebuilds (probably due for another one) after multiple washes per month since purchase. Very happy with it, but definitely get yourself an extra resavoir or two. The secondary internal thread for normal bottles was a good idea but standard bottles cannot handle that kind of torque on the necks and WILL break.
“4 years since September 2020”
Time travel much?
@@RayNLA haha whoops. 3 years then
Gasket/seals possibly.@@xYuriTardidx
@@xpogosam9690
😂 Just giving you trouble!
Thanks for sharing and laughing along! ❤️
Filter and two seals I think is all it contains. Not a difficult rebuild at all. Once you’ve done it once it’ll take you 5 minutes to do it the next time
You guys should drop the OG Shorts link in the description template
It's there now, and here: www.youtube.com/@ObsessedGarageShorts
I sent the wife to buy a €30 cheap snow foam lance, but she couldn't get one so I ordered the new MJJC pro-V3 snow foam lance (€90), the first time I used it she was watching, next thing I heard her shouting that's no fecking €30 snow foam lance, credit to MJJC there is a difference lol
You bought the S V3, PRO V3 will be out soon though.
AM ISRAËL HAÏ 🇮🇱
What store sells $30 foam cannons, let alone stocks them on a shelf? [Unless you sent her to the Chemical Guys store or something]
And why would you send a woman to buy it knowing there’s a good chance she’s going to mess up somehow?
It’s 2024, why wouldn’t you simply order exactly what you sent her across town for and save everyones time and money?
This story makes no sense. That’s like her sending you to buy her some Tampons…
Will it attach to greenworks pressure washer?
Yes it will.
Curious why bother with brake buster in a foam cannon? Why not just use an Ik foamer to apply it? I just think it waters it down too much in a foam cannon even if diluted already 3:1 and better foam from IK to cling and dwell
Because the iK foam sucks balls at foaming.
I’m glad you made the switch it’ll force mtm and other companies to innovate and not just around. They got too comfortable and if we’re being honest the mtm compared to the griots is far behind,the threads were terrible and the opening was too darn small.
What will force mtm to innovate? Haven’t they already been doing so? Nothing crazy but they have made minor updates to products and have released some new products over the past year or so?
The only thing I don’t like is the way it looks. The red. The big branding. Need a toned down OG version
Straight alcohol will remove the logo
Then it will look like a rip off griots lol cant win@@KiranPatel-fk1pg
Can foam cannons be used without a pressure washer? Just a regular hose.......
No
Its called a foam blaster .. similar looking but made to attach to a hose.. very watery foam but does work.
No. Foam cannons need the extra pressure to mix and spray the foam from the cannon.
The ones that connect and work with garden hose are called Foam Guns. These are called Foam Cannons. The difference explained in the previous post^
Watery foam similar consistency of what’s in your 5 gallon bucket vs. nearly shaving cream thick foam that almost doesn’t even need further suds from a bucket.
Both are effective yet still there’s a night & day difference when it comes to user experience.
Treat yourself to a power washer & foam cannon. You’ll thank yourself.
been using the Griots Foam cannon for a while now. Never ever liked the MTM (small opening was the WORST design ever). Bought the MTM years ago and honestly never liked it. I actually threw it away 2 weeks after buying it. Griots is the one to have.
I think the MTM is still tried and true. I just sold my original one from when it first came out. They are pretty bulletproof.
Anyone have issues storing Brake Buster in a spare GG bottle? I did this with my extra MTM bottle and it is seeping through somehow.
I got the griots brilliant finish foam cannon and it was good for a couple months and then was garbage. The metal ball corroded my bottle into a nasty yellow spotted bottle. It stopped producing foam and got clogged way too easily and the aluminum got scratched up up so easily. Luckily Griots sent me a rebuild kit for free and a new bottle, but still I don't think it's worth the 65$ I paid for it. The boss foam cannon might be a different story but I would rather get the MJJC instead
I don't see how the Boss could fail. It's pretty simple.
@@ObsessedGarage the boss maybe not but the brilliant finish is extremely bad
MJJC foam is great hopefully Matt will look at it in the near future.
He wont, MJJC is a chinese knock off company
@@kmpatonUnlike Shinemate, Maxshine or SPTA, I'm yet to see what MJJC has copied. All of there products seem to be their own design and construction other than catalogue parts like the bottle cap section (which griots also does).
I never have and I never will.
@@ObsessedGarage I’ve been watching the channel a long time and I know Matt is good at what he does. I’ve learned a lot from Matt and implemented some of his ways into my process. Has he ever tested the MJJC? I just see so many pro detailers using it I’m just trying to figure the one that will work for me. Thank you
@@ROBERT-eg4ysSo why don’t you give it a try? You live in a free country, don’t you?
i still cant believe Matt is still playing with foam cannon..by now he should atleast get suttner down stream foamer..nevermind the lafferty airless foamers..
Suttner foamer doesn’t produce thick foam with the most common pressure washer that people have in their garage. Somebody in YT already tested the Suttner with a Kranzle and it comes out as just soapy water kinda like what you would get out of a garden hose foamer. Suttner foamer will work if you have enough pressure & flow to support it for example Chem X. They use Suttner foamer on a 2500 psi 3.5gpm pressure washer and it works great but on your common pressure washer not so much.
THERE IS MANY MANY DIFFERENT SUTTNER FOAMERS..NOT JUST "CHEM X@@wd8005
I’ve had this cannon for some time, imo the newer version is better. Better performance with a lesser gpm washer.
Like to see it in action.
I've been using it in a few of my most recent Wash and Talks.
Check it out: th-cam.com/video/80HnisBC8Xw/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
Not worth 100.00, you know it, we know it, shrug your shoulders and play it off, what a goofball
“Worth” is whatever anyone is willing to pay for something.
$100 for a foam cannon lol...PASS
Super overpriced.
Yeah, nah. I'll stick with MJJC Pro thanks
You are selling your soul.
@@ObsessedGarageRubbish. Provide evidence to back up your claims Matt. Foam Cannons have been off patent for years.
You can't be that stupid: mjjc.com is the evidence. Pretty much every product on there is a rip off.
Total ripoff of the Griots Boss cannon.
mjjc still the best foam cannon
What’s wrong with the pf22? Is it no good ?
It's fine. I think the Griot's is a worthy upgrade.