EASY $6 FOAM CANNON HACK | AUTO MIX ANY FOAM CANNON | CAR DETAILING TIPS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2024
- Today we test whether the Griots Garage metering tips can be used in any foam cannon. I think you will like the results. Hope you enjoy the video and the bloopers at the end!
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Such a simple adjust for so cheap. Definitely shows how big of a difference it does to the setup. 👍🏻
Always the simple things make big differences.
Interesting video. Good thought process in being versatile and resourceful. I like it!
Appreciate that!
Now that I bought the pressure washer you recommended I am definitely going to do this. What a great hack 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Glad you found it. I guess they finally were able to get one to Canada.
3:35 “my wife has the seat all the way against the steering wheel 😂” hate when that happens but it’s crazy how the smallest things can make the biggest difference. Pretty cool that you don’t have to measure dilution anymore with this kind of set up with the auto mix! Great hacks and tips as always ✊🏽
Love the Bloopers! 😂 Thanks for the informative vid as well!
You’re Welcone
I know all the TH-cam detailers prefer the wide mouth bottles just like you do. I’m the opposite, I prefer the small mouth like the MTM. You can use almost any water bottle or product bottle with it so you’re not limited to one bottle or have to buy from them to replace. I have multiple bottles for different soaps and in different sizes. They all also have caps for storage. For the MTM pick up tube issue, you can buy different tubing for it and replace the stiff tubing.
I like that you tried the auto mix in different guns. Seems most people have zero imagination about modifying things in anyway. They either use it as is and only modify if someone figures it out for them and shows them exactly how to do it. I love figuring out how to make a product suit my needs better if it doesn’t out of the box. That’s how I figured out you can use different bottles. Many have the same thread.
Yes you have tons of options with the bottle threads. That what I like best about my MJJC as it has two thread pattern the outer for the wide neck, but also had an inner thread to fit the same bottles the MTM does and the MTM bottle too. They stopped making the inner thread for some reason. MTM just did release a new bottle with a wide too and you can retrofit the old one on top so you can have a wide top quick release style and unscrew it to use the small threads still.
@@CarsWithKeav yeah, I’ve seen the new MTM cap and bottle. I like how it’s just an adapter for the existing setup and not a complete redesign. Now you still have the option to not use it and use you’re own bottles if you bought a new one.
The Griots has the same set up as your MJJC where it has both threads. I’d much rather have the option to use wide or small than being stuck with just wide. I prefer having options and auto-mix is a great one to have. I know most testers show the Griots is better, and cheaper, but the MTM will always be a great cannon and the difference in foam seems minimal between all of them.
@@seashackf1 Griots does not foam as good as the MTM or MJJC without the auto mix feature. They are all good just depends on what you like. Small neck I never would use since most of my bottle are not diluted so I would have to dilute in another bottle. I don't run any chemicals at full dilution to be able to use the chemical bottle.
@@CarsWithKeavI guess I was talking about the Griots Boss instead of the BF foam cannon. Most seem to rate it above the MTM. For the auto mix feature you could use the small neck 16 oz bottle the soap is available in and not have to transfer anything. You’d just refill from the gallon same as you would for the wide mouth cannon bottle. Much easier to keep different soaps that way and be able to cap each bottle. In the end it’s all personal preference and what works for us. For some the standard way everyone else does it works fine. For others, like you did with here, we like to modify so it fits a specific need.
@@seashackf1 Exactly, in the end it’s all personal preference as long as we are enjoying washing does what makes you happen. I just like to try all kinds of different things and modify to get the result I want.
Man I just discovered your channel and I've gotta tell you I'm a big fan.
The bloopers cracked me up for quite a bit but then when you said "Stop it" to yourself in jest it made me sad. I used to struggle with a stutter and try to basically race my words out so I wouldn't stutter so I know how it feels.
Hopefully you don't actually get frustrated or down on yourself for the tongue twisters because you're effing awesome, but it you do happen to get down on yourself or particularly frustrated one day try remembering that you can slow it down and breathe and conversation doesn't have to be a race. It's what ultimately helped me get over my stutter. That and realizing if people didn't want to let me finish the entire thing I was trying to say or communicate, they don't deserve my thoughts or company anyway.
At any rate man I'm glad to have discovered your channel and you've got a new sub.
I struggle at times with my words and just go blank. Stuttering is no laughing matter it cause all kind of anxiety. I don't stutter much its more of I'm trying to talk too mast or thinking while I'm talking. Only happens in front of the camera. Live and in crowds I can carry a conversation without messing up my word. Its that dang camera its my biggest critic. LOL Thanks for the tips as they they are very helpful and glad you were able to use them to help your own struggles.
Hey man as always, great content. I want to thank you for encouraging me to go out, organize myself and wash my car. Speaking of phone tenants over the weekend I did a test of my own (unfortunately I do not have a TH-cam channel sure nobody would be interested however) and I compared the to the MTM versus the MJ JC. Without a doubt, I was only able to get to one side of my truck being washed before running out of soap with the MJJC. Trust me, I wanted it to work and that was with it turned down. Instead of refilling, I changed to the MTM washed the entire truck and the wife’s car before running out. For a little bit extra foam to me it’s not worth it with a truck.
That's just crazy, maybe something is up with that one. Is it version 1 or 2? You can see in the video for the whole car I used the same amount of soap. As there is no way the metering tip can allow any more soap to flow so you can maybe get it to last longer with one of those. I hate it isn't working out for you. I've noticed with what I have bought and my friends units there a manufacturing differences between them and they each behaved slightly different.
Nice. Was waiting for this when Groits changed the hole on their brilliant finish foam cannon. Great tip!! Literally 😃
You know what's funny? I ordered a new one to check on this change and make a video on it. The one I got today the tips fit perfect. Now I did notice on this new one you can't change the fan spray angle anymore. SO I can prove that was changed.
@@CarsWithKeav Hmmm. Maybe they got different models. Let me return the unit I ordered last week and get a new one. I'll report if the new one I get is compatible with the metering tips
@@rickjondo1343 I think they did change at some point and it all depends on the Amazon Warehouse you get the product from. Some still might have old as its probably the same barcode. How about this, you send yours to me and I'll send this new one I got to you? that way I get one to do the video on and you get one that fits the tips. if you want to DM me on Instagram so I can give you my address or send me a picture so I can make sure they are different and they didn't change the metering tip size. LOL
Have to say that I'm really happy I found your channel. I was about to give up on my Brilliant Finish foam cannon.
I ended up buying a rebuild kit from Griot's in addition to the metering tips and an extra container. I ordered a M Mingle gun and QD's from Amazon to go with my budget Greenworks pressure washer. Put it all together and wow! Stellar results. Great foam, easier to use. I'm really looking forward to the best wash. Note: the metering to didn't fit in the ball or on the nipple in the cap. I ended up putting it in the pick up tube and just working it down the tube about an inch. Thanks for the idea.
That's awesome. Yeah, they changed the weighted ball to the Brilliant finish so you can't use the auto mix tips. Only the BOSS foam cannon has the weighted ball that will work with the tips now.
I have the VE56 PW from Active, and when I used a 1.1 orifice the pressure shot up to 1400 PSI and the PW sounded like it was angry at me. It foamed better but I swapped back to the 1.25 orifice promptly.
Thanks for the video.
Yeah, Active pumps don't like higher PSI. 1.1 is a risky move and will for sure hurt the long term life of the unit. plus 1.25 creates more than enough foam.
Ahh nice ever since your last video I've been messing with my girots foam Cannon and my mjjc pro and adding metering tips to see the performance. And yeah the tips make a difference
They sure do and I'm looking at other sources as well because Griots will catch onto this even they are making money.
Currently have a mjjc pro as well, paired with a 1700psi karcher, which color do you find to be best?
@@nick00639 Purple all the way.
I've tested the three different GG metering tips using Active 2.0, Boss Foam Canon w/1.25mm orifice drawing straight RO water from the canon bottle (not soap). Pink tip consumes 2oz/minute; Purple 3oz/min; Aqua 4oz/min. Of course straight soap will be more viscous thus affecting suction through the metering tips.
That is great information. Appreciate you doing that! Hard to say how it impacts pure soap. Most likely would consume based on thickness. Maybe thinner soaps would do better and some thick ones might have aeration issues?
I ordered the purple tips from GG after you had mentioned it a couple of videos ago. It works great but I’m using the 1.25mm orifice (Active VE52) on my GG brilliant finish foam cannon. 👍🏽👍🏽
I usually use the 1.25, but the Armor All doesn't do well with it and I wanted them all to be on the same one. I was also going to film this using the cheap Amazon one I reviewed, but I looked at it for 5 minutes and I couldn't bring myself to use it. LOL
@@CarsWithKeav lol, all good. Thank you for sharing your tips. Love your videos. 👊🏽
Thank you for this video. Answered all my questions.
You are welcome!
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Have you seen the new Red and clear bear force foam cannon? If you have can a metering tip fit on that perticular foam cannon
@@DAT-TEXAS-DUDE I did a review on it late last year. You can add a metering tip to anything really. Just depends where you can add it.
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Okay and the purple is the recommended one I believe I seen you say in one of you videos. I do have an electric pressure washer . The Sunjoe spx 3000
@@DAT-TEXAS-DUDE Purple should be good.
Use with a pick ball at end of pick up tube
Good idea
First I want to say thanks for all your very awesome videos. It has got me more excited to clean my and customers cars more! Can you measure the inside diameter of the purple metering tip-say with a drill bit?? Just see what size drill bit slides into the hole. I want to try making any kind of a weight and then just drilling a hole in it the same size as the purple tip. Do you think that would work?
I will see, but it’s really small don’t think I would have anything that small to measure. Theoretically like you said it’s just restricting the flow so if you could drill through a weight it should work. It might clog easily though if the bird is long. These the hole is only a small area so easy to clean out.
Such a great invention. So for a active ve52 and the MJJC Pro V2 with a 1.25 orifice would you go with a pink tip?
I have had the best results with the purple tip. I don't think pink is necessary until you reach over 2.0 GPM like a Blue AR630.
Awesome video I really like the auto-mix option. My question is would you know the size of the hole in the purple fitting? I could prob make my own and don't want to spend $147 for the Boss unit as I have several others that work great and to order just the tips will cost 3x more in shipping and a month wait. Thanks
Its for sure a weird market and shipping on those is crazy. The BOSS is $99 on Amazon. I'm trying to figure out the diameter myself and working on another solution that doesn't rely on extra shipping costs. Also, testing some cheaper models right now to get them to be foaming monsters.
I've seen a couple of your videos... they're great but I gotta tell you, I get quickly distracted by the beautiful color/paint job on your BMW. I want one just like that. Thanks for the tips.
No problem and I have caused quite a few fender benders with both cars when people rubber neck. LOL Wrap on this car is called Satin Roaring Thunder by Avery Dennison. My other BMW wrap is called Satin Psychedelic by 3M.
Very smart dude, keep investigating and look into how carwashes automate and soon enough you'll be alongside me trying to figure out a way to automate mobile detailing.
I wish I had the money to fuel my ideas. LOL
@@CarsWithKeav it's good to see I'm not alone, I keep a book- it works for Jackie Chan when planning for stunts 😄
@@user-ue7mw7hg7n My problem I try to keep it all in my head. Writing it down might help. LOL
Hi Kev ,
I just came up with an idea .......I am going to get a cheapo cannon then cut the mesh filter in half , put a piece of foam in between the mesh like MJJC does. To see if it works on on a el cheapo. Il post ya.
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You can buy the filters from MJJC too, but that is more money. I have tried to use those filters in other cannons and couldn’t really tell if it was better. I feel the combination of everything in the manifold gets that great foam. Let me know your results.
Nice review! Not a bad fix for $6
Bloopers 😂
Makes a world of difference when making washing more efficient and less time.
Love your videos ,
Learning as I go along. I really didn't like to wash cars but sorta love it now.
I want to ask about the metering tips.
Can you describe how it looks inside and what size holes they have roughly ?
I want to see if I can make them at home .
Il film the hole thing too.
Thanks dude. 👍
I am unsure of the size it is very small. So small you care barely see through it. I hated washing cars to until I found ways to make it enjoyable and an escape from what’s going on I’m this crazy world.
@@CarsWithKeav LOL
It is crazy at the moment.
All we can do now is enjoy foaming. 👍
Cool to know you can add one of those tips for cheap and never have to add water to your foam cannon again haha. Thanks for the vid! I'll definitely look into getting a tip in the future
Saves so much time.
@@Index-o1234 You can still make thicker foam using your own dilution and hot deionized water, but more foam doesn’t always mean more lubricity. It’s just the soap being aerated more in the manifold. Soap can be just as lubricating without suds. ONR as an example. Too thick a foam also has a hard time dwelling off the surface evacuating the debri. There is a big debate on foam thickness. It’s therapy for me though. I sacrificed some foam thickness for the efficiency and time saved not having to measure. Using the tips just sucks less soap into the manifold mixing with the water allowing the dilution to happen there. I’ve found out there are hundreds of these tips so you could possibly find one with the perfect dilution for thickest foam.
@@CarsWithKeav Thank you for your insights.
I Found a weighted tube for pf22 for mine
Nice, since this video they have shown up on Amazon a good bit now.
if purchasing a new foam cannon, automix seems like a nice option. would it make sense to get the MJJC Pro 2. and add it, or get the Boss with the tips included ?? (current pressure washer is gas, and have the old school foam canon, narrow neck jobber. electric might be in the near future ) thanks !!
Gas, I would go with the Griots. Better built materials to handle the pressure.
Thanks for the tips Keav what our obsession leads us to do huh 🤔😅
Question In your testing the 1.1 orifice had no impact of stress on the pump of the active?
Totally obsessed. LOL. The 1.1 was a higher AMP on the Active VE52, but still a safe number. I just prefer the 1.25 as it seems the soup goes further and the foam is enough for me. Even though its a safe number prolonged use at a higher AMP will lessen the life of the unit as well.
Just tried the purple tip on my MJJC Pro 2. I stalled it per your video and it worked great. Maybe a very slight loss of foam thickness but not much. I should add that I use a graphene infused shampoo as a foam which known to foam much less versus a dedicated snow foam. Still got good foam even with the auto mix tip!
Yeah, I sacrificed a little foam for the auto mix. I think a different tip would be better maybe depending on the pressure washer you have. All about those dilution ratios and finding the sweet spot.
Hi, I just ordered a brilliant cannon as a result of your other video. Will the purple make thicker foam or will it be thicker without it?
Purple tip runs pretty thick. Just as thick as the MJJC was with my diluted mix.
Is that a wrap on your bmw? Looks great
Yes it was, have a different color now.
Orded the ones from Amazon only $1.50. Worth a try
Cool, I was going to before, but unsure do the sizing since griots doesn’t state what theirs are and there are a ton of different sizes out there.
How did the Amazon ones work out?
@@CarsWithKeav The tips work. I had an issue with my MJJC cannon leaking from front and not foaming after the freeze we had, don’t know if it had anything to do with that or I forgot to flush it after using it. I changed out the filter and kept running water in the bottle and it started working again. The last few times I stick the tube in water after using to flush it out and it’s working so far
@@pantac4493 Glad to hear it.
What do u do with extra soap at the end can the ball rest in that solution for months or do u take it out and cap it?
You could take it out and cap it as the manifold should be cleaned out regularly. I have had no issues with any of the MJJC weighted balls. I wouldn’t trust Griots though they rust.
@@CarsWithKeav they should sell a upgraded stainless version lol
Will the Griots boss foam connon work with a small electric power washer Ryobi 1.2 gallon
Yes it sure will you would only need to change the orifice nozzle to a 1.1 size to et that thick foam.
@@CarsWithKeav Thanks
Can you tell me about the filtration setup on your rig? I have terrible water!
When I was running that version it is two 2 stage systems. One is sediment and carbon filter based and the second is Deionization. I show in these two videos. th-cam.com/video/OoBJVCbSY34/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/douXuBQxktg/w-d-xo.html
@@CarsWithKeav no problems with the pressure washer not getting enough water through the filters? I am just running a 1800psi 1.2gpm but I'm so very sick of the water spots.
Hey Keav, I got the metering tips from Amazon and they don't fit the MJJC 3.0 or PF22. Neither on the end of the weighted ball or the end of the canon itself. Have you had any luck?
Weighted ball on MJJC you have to drill it out to fit, but they have also changed their design as well. MTM the tube is larger and hard to place. I have. I have not tried to find a solution as I have went away from auto mixing as I use so many chemicals I don’t have abuse for it.
could you just use the Griots tube on the mjjc?
If you have the tube, weighted ball and auto dilution siphon I don’t see why not.
hi do you know a link where i can get them from uk?
I am unsure. I only know of the Griots website that has them. You can check commercial car washing stores, but their colors are different so no idea which metering tip is the right one.
For the auto mix do you only add soap to the cannon reservoir and no water prior to using it? Sorry if this is a dumb question. I'm a novice in this area.
No water is needed unless you want to thin out the mix to save soap. Will get less foam though.
@@CarsWithKeav Awesome. Thanks so much!
Hey Kev ,
I forgot to ask you if using the metering tips is better than a diluted mixture ?
Is it better to use no tips for most foam or do the the tips produce same foamage , just your personal view.....because sometimes video doesn't do justice. 1✌
Should be the same foam if the dilutions from the auto mix are the exact same as doing your own. The tips only allow you to just leave soap in the bottle full strength forever and not have to mix with water. Just easier to do, but if you do many chemicals then diluting yourself is best. Unless you have as many foam cannons as me. 😂
A lot of soaps are engineered for a panel impact ratio and then advertised with dilution ratios for simplicity to the public. Interested in the math of how the soap is actually sitting on the panel
That would be interesting to know and for me knowing what foam thickness is most effective. I actually think there are so many variables such as panel angle, coating, softness of paint, hardness of water, etc. You might have a handful of different types of foam thickness on just one car..
Any luck with or know anyone that tested the Amazon tips?
Don't know anybody that has been able to find out the orifice sizes Griots uses. The Amazon ones have the same colors, but they are different sizes. Might try this in a future video.
Hlo keav plz give me one foam cannon
Cool, but not for me. I'm not willing to change the process as I use different soaps. I also believe in cleaning my equipment after use, this method would further hinder that. I'm thinking this method is now making your pressure washer work a little bit more as it is now having to draw a thicker liquid through a regulator. The cannons were not designed for this. Thanks for your efforts and humor! If you don't try, you fail anyway. Keep us posted on the long term.
Its not for everybody and I wouldn't do it if I didn't have so many because I use a lot of soaps, but most only use a few. I tested and my amperage did not change on my Active VE52 from regular dilution to the meter tips. I don't think it puts any added stress as the stress point is the orifice and I did 1.1 just as a control and I normally use a 1.25. Will be doing long term updates for sure.
My suggestion for cleaning the mesh filter after each use would be to unscrew the bottle from the cannon and spray all the soap out from the siphon tube and continue spraying water through the cannon to clean the mesh filter. Then you can screw the bottle back on with undiluted soap and store until the next wash.
Would you please measure the hole in the tip. Reason: Griots Garage does not ship to Germany. Griots has UK office. But they don't ship to Germany either. You can also get tips here, but you have to know the size of the hole. Please measure!
I’ll give it a try, but it’s super small almost to the point you can’t see through it. I don’t have anything small enough to measure.
@@CarsWithKeav A carburetor-shop may be able to help. There one is familiar with small nozzle sizes.
@@2jost I actually have the tools they use to clean carbs and welding tips, but they are not labeled so no idea what size they are. 😂 I know which one is 1.1mm and 1.25mm as I bought them to make it easier to know the orifice.
lol $12 shipping. not happening
Yeah, they suck with the shipping cost. It weighs nothing and could go in an envelope.
His not using water in the foam container his just using water
Opps soap
Correct, just soap which siphoned at a slower rate allows you to no longer need to dilute water in there and use the same amount of soap.
How many in a pack and do all 3 come in a pack?
I think they came in packs of 5 or 6 and it’s all one color which sucks.
@CarsWithKeav did yours have a pin prick hole at top? Mine does, looks like barely any soap would go through