Using UNDO and REDO on a single loop pedal
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- (this video) Using undo and redo on a single loop pedal stemmed from questions by several of you, so I hope you dig it. Using the x4 to demonstrate: amzn.to/2Zb9xGV (even though it's not actually a single loop pedal (it has two separate loops - I'm just not using the second one at all in this video).
For 911aday who asked about a specific question - what you would need to do, is record your chord part as your first loop, then your overdub would be the percussion, and you would simply 'undo' the percussion part so that you are left with the original chords (as per example one), and then later on in the song, you can 'redo' the percussion. A little bit of setup time, but works pretty well if you only have a single track loop pedal.
This can be a SUPER creative way to build dynamics into your live looping, AND find ways to mash up songs rather than starting totally from scratch each and every time you loop a song.
It's basically a 'how to use undo and redo on a loop pedal' guide, but making them useful, rather than just for mistakes
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Very helpful David. Think we’ll have to start calling you the “Loop Pedal Whisperer” 😎
I now use a Ditto cause the loop pedal in my Roland AC-33 amp does not have undo/redo - very annoying.
Thanks Mark! hehe. I like that... perhaps they'll make a movie out of it... "The Loop Pedal Whisperer" ..or perhaps I will attempt one for my own amusement hehe! (but then people will know I'm crazy for whispering to loop pedals all over town!
I considered getting that amp ages ago for it's looping option as part of the amp. shame it doesn't have the undo/redo option though!
I also have the Boss VE-8 Acoustic Singer (with harmoniser) which has a loop pedal built in but again no Undo/Redo
I’ve also played around with the Loopy HD App on iPhone and Bluetooth footswitches - that App has up to 12 loop tracks which sounds great until you have to remember which track is what live.
@@MarkAndrewHansenMusic ah true!
@@MarkAndrewHansenMusic haha. I had a friend that used that app for live looping for quite a while ay. 12 tracks you gotta seriously have some brain power for though eh!
I really appreciate you!! You've helped me take looping to another level. I am a retired U.S. teacher living in Costa Rica playing gigs down here. Much cooler now, thanks to you.
thank you so much for this gift my friend - so glad to hear these videos have helped you. Playing gigs in Costa Rica sounds ace too btw!
Dug this one brother! Very helpful. Very entertaining!
Cheers Mark!
Many thanks dude, you have opened me a world! I've got the Ditto x1 and your tutorial is really useful!!! Thanks and greetings from Italy 🇮🇹
that's awesome! Have fun and hello from New Zealand 😄
This certainly adds a whole new level of interesting dynamics! Great tutorial, Thank you, man!!
heya 911aDay - I wrote you a little note in the description (if you scroll down) on how you can essentially do what you asked me in previous comments. It's not an ideal scenario, but it will allow you to do what you asked, and was also a big chunk of the inspiration for creating this vid!
Thankyou sooooo much David. I was going to upgrade my Boss RC 1 as i didn't realise i could do this ...life-changing or at least loop changing!!
Thanks to this video I'm working up songs to loop with my single track looper!!!! My LEKATO Guitar Looper Pedal is seeing action now because of this video... !!
loveandpeace.
Wow that's great demo! didn't get bored by the loop.
awesome!
BRILLIANT!!! l learnt something usefull today. Thanks a lot! Greeting from Morocco!
yay! Glad it was useful for you Mohamed!
Love your song choices
Thanks Dan!
Superb, finally starting to "get it" 👍👍
love it!
Oh god!!!! I have really haven’t been using my looping pedal to its fullest! Thanks so much!😆
hehe I think all of us could say that! ...there's always some new idea I see or hear! Glad this has given you some new ideas though!
Very clear and concise - great video. Thanks David!
Welcome! 😊
Appreciate the tip! Great examples. I appreciate the enthusiasm you have in your vids. Please keep them coming.
Cheers David! :)
Wonderfully explained. Pure joy 👏🏻👏🏻💪🏻
😊
As usual a brilliant tutorial. Love the way you put it all across. Keep them coming bud.👌
Thanks Wallace!
Kudos for a great lesson! I knew my RC1 had these features and now , thanks to you, I know how to access them. FYI your singing is fine.
Very nice tutorial. I specifically bought the Boss FS-6 to go with my RC-1 (and RC-3) in order to have dedicated stomps for Undo and Stop.
It makes a world of difference with your timing when you don't have to deal with that Hold-to-Undo or Double-Stomp-to-Stop nonsense.
Thanks 😊And that's totally what I would do if I was using an RC-1 for shows I think! I especially always found the double stomp to stop difficult!
@@davidshanhun, exactly. The less hopping around like a jack-rabbit while trying to perform in front of people the better I figure. Less to go wrong.
Along those looping lines, I've also been playing with Zenaud.io ALK2 lately, and been having a ton of fun. It's a "loop sequencer" where you plan out your loops ahead of time in the computer, so no pedal hopping. It also give you the ability to do verse, chorus and even bridges in a live-looping environment. You should check it out for shows as it keeps all the musicianship but automates the tedium/errors of stomping on pedals at precisely the right time.
@@lannyfuller8367 will take a look thanks
Brother, you have helped me a ton. And I really appreciate these videos!
Awesome! Glad to hear this!
Thanks for the video mate very much appreciated. Keen to see something on your live setup PA eq effects etc. Cheers!
Cheers Paul. Been thinking on doing some setup video's, and not sure quite how to approach them tbh. Anything in particular you'd like to know/see regarding this?
Excellent advice! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Will definitely try this on my 720 when it arrives! 😎 Best looper tutorials I've found 👌🏻
Thanks Ernie! Have fun with it man and thanks for the comment!
David Shanhun thank you, for sharing loop wisdom 😉 regards from México!
Very cool video. Bobby McFerrin would approve! Great idea for the Undo and Redo...come to Bridge of song, Undo and then click Redo when verse or chorus comes back in...love it.
Thanks Germain!
👏👏👏 great tips and I want more frequently tips for looping😁 thanks 🙏
Cool thanks!
Thanks David! Would love to see more advanced ideas witb undo-redo for 2 track loopers! Like how to build more complex, changing patterns
Thanks Ale - what looper are you using at the moment?
So useful. I have been really tempted to invest in a multi track looper. But I told myself I have to use the single looper enough to know the investment is worth it. This helps bring it to the next level. And forces me to get better Rhythm. 😂 Thank you!
Great Vid! I have the original Boss RC 20 (not xl) and no undo's. Took me quite a while to get timing down before I bought my boomerang 3 then later side car .
ah yeah as soon as I saw this I started thinking of the slightly older loop pedals haha. not so common on the undo/redo options! Boomerang is great eh!
Took me ages to work this out. Wish I saw this before.
aww haha! Hopefully it helps the next person before they have to figure it out themselves 😂
Helooo thank you sir of in this video I learn a lot the reason of I had only one looper lekato..highly appreciate now I’ll start enjoy it more.. once again thank you ❤❤❤
Dig the 2 songs over a rythm groove. Great stuff man!
Thanks Bernie!
Good!!!! Super groove!!
Great video!
I was just going to order the Hotone Ampero, partly due to its in-build looper, but just realized this undo/redo i very useful and it doesn’t seem to have it.
Luckily I saw your video and will rethink this. Might go for Ampero anyway but then add external looper in some way 🤔
thanks! Yep can be pretty handy having an undo - either for mistakes hehe, or for creating some dynamics like this! Let me know how you go!
Thank u very much
most welcome!
Dude!! Killer video, super slick mate.
Thanks brother!
thanks!
welcome! are you doing much looping?
Thanks for another great tutorial! The built in looper function on the boss cube doesn't seem to have an undo. Thankfully I also have an Boss RC 1.
yeah seems a few of the amps with looping don't have the undo/redo! Glad to hear you have the RC1 though! Hope you have fun playing around with this!
Awesome!!!
Thanks!
Your looping tutorial series is the best on the subject!
Just to clarify, the first overdub on « Don't worry, be happy» is made on «sync» mode with every switches mode buttoms down?
You could have started your new song with « I wish» by Stevie Wonder at 8'45 too...
David is the best!👏🎶👍
Thanks Dov! Yes - the first overdub is exactly as you described! might have to have a look at adding Stevie into the mix too :)
Thanks. I'm a noobie at looping so this Will help me alot.
awesome! Hope you have fun experimenting with it! What loop pedal do you have?
@@davidshanhun boss rc-1. Saw it in a movie.
@@Various83 ah just read this after replying to your question about looping Kurt Nilsen... If you have the RC-1, I would recommend just creating some sort of cool groove to play the song over - there's a lot of changes in it, and it will come out better I think if you do it that way! Will copy this to the other thread for you!
(If you are new to looping and using an RC-1, please check out my comment below regarding the FS-5. Trust me, it makes a huge difference. =) )
Very good and explained tutorial. I am having a very hard time getting the percusion sound off the guitar. Does your guitar have secondary pickup or mic. Thanks from Canada
Hey Richard thanks! All guitars are a bit different for percussion and sound. Mine doesn't have a secondary mic, just the under saddle pickup. I'm lucky there is a good bottom end to it though. I would turn your amp up a bit and spend some time at home experimenting with different spots on the guitar to see what sounds you get, and also experiment with setting the EQ of your pickup (if it has one). Sometimes changing these settings can help with the percussion options you can get :) - Let me know if you have any joy! (also, some guitars are just pretty tough to get good percussion sounds from - I had a Tanglewood for a while but it was a real challenge to create percussion from so I can relate).
David Shanhun Thank you for your response, I’m playing a Ej-200CSE Epiphone tru an old TC-H Voicelive Play GTX in dual mono mode output thru a ditto x4. The GTX has plenty of EQ to adjust. I will a try. Have a good weekend!
Could you do the same just recording the overdub as a new track and disabling that track? I guess the purpose of this undo-redo is for when we lack extra looping tracks. Correct me if I'm wrong. Excellent video!
Great job man! I wonder is it possible to conect two loop pedals and make a similar tutorial? for example rc1 and rc 3 or rc 30...meaning for main , verse and chorus...
Thanks! hmmm, not quite sure what you are meaning in your question here? Record each separate section on an entirely different loop pedal? 🤔
@@davidshanhun i am thinking since you can only record one verse on one pedal... when the song becomes quite boring... you will need to have a second pedal... for variation... then to come back to first record... first pedal.... otherwise with one pedal the range of songs that can be played is quite limited... maybe then we'll need at least two channel loop pedal...
@@danielu3407 Makes sense. What I would do is record a rhythm track as the first track. Then overdub your verse, and you can simply use 'undo' to remove the verse chords, then you still have the rhythm track. That way you can play the chords for the chorus live whilst still having the rhythm track you created at the start :)
@@davidshanhun and when you want to change the cord progression, as we see in some songs,for example at bridge?... there i can see the need of another pedal... that's why it would be interesting to see a tutorial... regarding the use of two pedals...
yep some songs are a challenge!
thankss would that work on a boss RC-2 that would be marvellous
yes this will work on the Boss RC-2! Have fun!
Merci you are the boss
u changed my life 😮
yay! :)
awesome videos! I didn't realize the OC3 pedal was a legit way to record bass tracks with a looper. . I've always had it for playing CKY songs and realized it went great with my RC3. A friend would make fun of me for not having an actual bass but now I feel justified. Anyway, I gave up trying to use undo/redo like you do because the delay makes it hard for me to play live and hold the pedal down at the right time to have the track come back in at the start of a bar. any tips?
Hey Jake, yeah OC-3 is sweet for bass tracks - have you tried it out yet for looping? My best suggestion for using the undo/redo and getting the timing - is learn one song for it first and work out roughly where to start holding the pedal so that it comes in on the beat. If anything, go with being slightly early for the 'redo' and slightly late if anything for the 'undo' (ideally being on time is great, but you honestly don't have to get it perfect to have a pretty good impact with this, and as you do it more you'll get better!)
Zoom G1xFour...does not have thus option. It's a good starting multiFX unit but is pretty garbage and falls short in every way. You will find its limits very quickly. Going for a Donner Circle Loop and Mooer multiFX next.
Oh by the way (maybe you've mentioned this in one of your videos that I haven't seen yet)...is there a reason that you tune your gtr 3 steps down from Standard Pitch.
Hey Germain - I have my guitar tuned to Eb (a half step down). Mostly because I have a couple of songs that I play that are in Eb, and I can't get the chord shapes/sound I want playing in Eb when the guitar is tuned to E (or at least so far haha!) But... I can simply capo up on the first fret to get back to standard tuning! Hope that explains it!
OH ok, don't know why I thought you were 11/2 steps down.
@@germain3588 all good! Hope you had a good Christmas Germain 😊
Rc-1 how to undo??
Te vojo bene!
It's really pitty that on the rc-30, once pushing for 2 seconds the loop doesn't come back at the beginning of the following phrase.
fully - gotta time it just right 2 seconds before you want it back in eh!
Pannottola sampdoria
Boss VE-8 fails on the undo feature…
ah darn!
I think the bass n beat should have been first... it would have sounded cooler when the guitar dropped out; you probably did it the way you did for clarity, it IS a bit easier to hear, but for actual performance start with a beat!!
Btw you earned a like from me! Great job (don’t take my comment as a diss!!)
Thanks Quikdeth! I think you're right though - dropping out the guitar would be a better option... it's a long beat to create at the start though haha!