Jackery vs EcoFlow vs Gas Generator - Which will Power a Small AC Unit?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ธ.ค. 2021
- In this "Will it Run it" video series, I'm on a search to see what power source can run a mechanical controlled 5k BTU Window AC unit. Eventually I will want to add this to my Tiny Toy Hauler that I'm currently building (check out my playlist for videos on that topic if you are interested). I'm toying with the idea of getting one large solar generator and using it instead of trying to get a battery, converter, inverter, charger, etc...
The results of todays video may surprise you... they surprised me for sure!
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Turn on the fan first, then lower the temp knob slowly until the compression kicks on; I run my LG 5000btu with the Jackery 3000 all night.
I see a Jackery 1000 or 1000+
For 2500$ id hope so lol
An ‘Air Conditioner Soft Starter’ would solve the issue of the massive amp draw spike when the compressor kicks on for the first time. With one of those devices I bet you could run the AC on the smallest unit.
And soft starts are only a few hundred dollars. Or for just $50 more you could just go with the EcoFlow.
What he would actually need is an “inverter” style portable a/c they use al lot less starting power
I have the 720 & 320 Eco flow they saved my butt during the flood in this February and March. We’re on the side of the road in the RV above the even park no one in our RV park was prepared but me my RV up lit up like a Christmas tree I use my Prius to keep them charged
I have since added two 110 foldable solar panels from the same brand ❤ I got mine on payments through QVC which really helped for my situation
No one in the RV park had generators? Who has an RV and not a generator?
I wonder if you started the AC on fan first then switched it to compressor if it would start easier?🤔
Yes star the fan on low for 3 minutes then turn ac swich to low cool. Ps this way only works for 2 knop ac swiches fan and temp
so 600 watts of panels and the Jackery should run a small ac and charge the battery at the same time... this looks like a good idea for my son to cool his VR room and not kill my electric bill 👍👍
Gas generator still going 8 hours later.
Still hearing it 8 hours later.
Just a suggestion would be to list the actual model numbers of what you are testing and even affiliate links you could make money and you could also help people that are actually trying to figure out which units to purchase. Units like this are quite expensive and you could actually earn a pretty substantial affiliate income while making it easier for people to make decisions
I agree
If you cant figure this out on your own, I dont think camping is for you.
@@TOMVUTHEPIMPyou nasty
Love the video! Did you have the X-Boost on? Have you tried a microwave yet?
I have that generator, and a similar AC, no issues with it running an air condtioner other than parks that don't allow you to use it overnight.. I don't think the Sportsman generators are still available. Pity too they are pretty nice.
I have a Bluetti EB55 and a small camper with an ac unit like that. The Bluetti will run it for about an hour. It's 700 watts with 537wh capacity.
Those sportsman generators are the bomb, I have a 2200 watts peak running 1800 and I can put an a/c like yours plus freezer , fridge and lights, even though it runs at max but is able to run all that.
I had that 1800/2200 Sportsman in the past, but I sold it because the main thing I wanted out of it was to run my RV AC unit and couldn't ever get it to do it, even with the soft start cap. Other than that though, it was a fantastic generator at a fantastic price! I like this little 800w sportsman though because its so light and portable! Thanks for your comment!
@@uthe54 what are the specs on the air conditioner. That would make a big difference.
How long can it run for?
u said 3.9 amps ? But how many watts is that particular air conditioner it self on the side specs sticker ?
I have used the Ecoflow River Max to run a 5k Btu LG 5016. Last a little less 2+Temperature
Nice job
Where can i purchase the eco flow thats in this video?
What kva is your generator thats decent to be able to start that compressor in that ac
I’m not an expert but I do believe the ac has a starter capacitor the will charge up after being plugged in for a while. This capacitor will help boost the compressor for startups. Because you tried the smaller jackery first and the ac wasn’t plugged in for very long it did Tver that charge to the capacitor which caused the startup to rely only on the jackery. The other sources benefited from being plugged in and the capacitor had some boost to assist starts. Try the jackery again after the ac is plugged in for a while.
How many watt hours is that ecoflow?
The River series will only take in a max of 200watts solar so you could extend the run time but it’s going to run out.
That's exactly what I was about to write ✍️ good job on catching that.
Nice video! I have limited yard space, so can't run a generator. Was always wondering if a setup like this might work.
Can I use it and receive power from the panels at the same time?
Kool...
You can Daisy chain the power stations and get more run time I've done it in my camper with a similar AC unit using my bluettti EB55 and ac50s and a jackery explorer 240
The jackery 1000 is def worth testing out on these!
If I had one, I would try it!
I know taht would work but it's so costly a geni is cheaper boxed in with air flow and spund barrier stuff I'd say
If it's running 400W on a 750Wh battery, I'd be really curious to see how long it really runs.
So curious
2+ hrs on Ecoflow River Max. High temp light flashes after high loads run. Charging (solar or utility) is disable. River Max will run a Midea 5/8k Btu portable AC without X-Boost. Obviously, it won't last long. Sportsman gen 800/1000W can start 5K Btu Haier with Eco off. Eco can be on after it runs for about a minute
Good to know! thanks for the comment!
Can the EcoFlow Pro also charge a Lithium Battery so that you have a longer run time, and can it charge the 2nd battery while it's supplying power to the AC unit?
How long can that gas generator run the ac off of 1 gallon of gas. Or two gallons. And whats the name of the 5,000 btu ac we couldn't clearly see the specs it waw kind of blurry?
You need to try the Jackery 1000
Can you Jump Start a dead battery with the EcoFlow Pro without it being connected to shoreline/AC power?
The 12v output port on the Ecoflow is regulated and I believe only maxes out at 8 amps. You need hundreds of amps to jump a car. Even plugged into shoreline it wouldn't be up for the task. I suggest looking into a NOCO for a jump starter. The NOCO jumpers are designed for very low reserve capacity, but very high cranking amps whereas the Ecoflow is designed for high watt capacity and lower current draw.
@@uthe54
Thank you your answer helps me out a lot 👍🏻
Most A/C units require that you wait at least mins. between start attempts. (To allow head pressure to dissipate).
It would be great if you actually mentioned the exact model of the power stations.
Only draw back on the ecoflow is the 200w max solar input but would help make a dent in the consumption and longer run time.
Great info I have a trailer with a 5000btu unit ac and I use a craftsman 2500 gas generator to run It and it pretty much runs the ac and everything else in the trailer. But was interested in going with a battery generator. Was wondering if you did a video in how long it would run the ac
I have not, but I need to do some real world tests! It all depends on so many factors, but having at least one real-world example can be helpful!
How much did it cost a month
I dump my generator into the house using the 220 and power the whole house. Just being careful with the hot water and not running the stove or oven. Been without power after a couple hurricanes. Amazing how dark it is at night when you're the only one for miles with power, lights and ac. The generator runs like a champ even in hurricanes wind and rain. Treat your ethanol free gas and it lasts for years. Used almost 5 year old gas. Runs almost as good as fresh, but wouldn't put in my car lol
When you say you dump your generator into the house, please be careful to not let it be actually running inside the house or near a window. Carbon monoxide is a silent killer. Be safe.
I'm not convinced with the EcoFlow due to similiar tests with the EcoFlow Pro which the 5K btu failed after about 5 minutes
I discovered it has a difficult time restarting the AC unit. A soft start capacitor installed on the 5k AC unit did the trick for me though. I thought I made a video on it but it doesn't look like I ever finished it. I'll try to wrap it up and get it published. Check amazon for an SPP5 - should be around $10 and comes with instructions on how to install. Thanks for your comment!
@@uthe54 would you mind sending me a link personally? I’m only seeing hard start capacitors on Amazon. Is that the same thing?
can you charg the jackery from a 12 volt cigerette lighter while your driving ?
Yes you can - it comes with the cord to do so. However, it limits itself to 8 amps when plugged into a 12v socket. That is to prevent the socket from overheating. 8A is only about 96 watts, so pretty slow, but yes, it can do it. I have been experimenting with faster ways to recharge it through the vehicle and will hopefully post a video of my findings soon. Thanks for watching and your comment.
@@uthe54 Curious if you've found any other methods of recharging? I have an Eco Flow river pro and it charges pretty slow from 12v too
Would like to see a how long it will run in an actual camper, where the temperature will drop and the compressor won't need to run all the time. Every time I see a test with batteries and A/C it is done in a garage or something with the door open. Which is great if you are trying to cool off the world, but not realistic as far as how it would work in a small camper. That and a comparison of say an 80 degree day versus a 90+ degree day.
My guess though is anyone trying to run A/C for a camper on battery power is going to want to run the A/C at night, when the temps would be cooler, but the humidity is higher.
I hear ya! I hope I can get out on a trip in the next couple months and try this thing out! I will spoil this for you though - Texas summer night I ran this thing on a Ecoflow Delta (1280wh) and only got about 5 hours out of it, and that's with it cycling. Hoping to have some better figures in the future though. The delta can recharge fast, and I had a gen on remote start. Ran 1 hour and recharged the battery back to 85%, killed the gen and ran fine rest of night until morning.
Got my Ecofllow River Pro with add-on battery for $700. They also have the Pro base unit alone for $430.
That's a good price! I got mine at Costco for 429. Cheapest I've seen them, but they seem to sell out quick! I got the extra battery as an ebay refurb and been good, although I'm not sure i'm totally happy with how it loses the portability, but cost per WattHour, you can't beat it!
@@uthe54 I did the same with the ebay refurb when costco was out of stock. Just an FYI, you can run the river dead and stick the add on battery on to keep drawing power. So you could get a bunch of batteries and run for a LONG time. I hadnt seen any reviews showing that test so I had to do it myself to find out. Im debating just getting a LIFEPO4 12V battery and running it isolated in my overlanding rig so it can directly power 12V devices w/o inverter losses and connect the River to it so the River gets 100W out for charging while driving or I could connect the River to solar for 200W charging, leaving the River specifically for the devices that need 120V (12V inversion loss is 5wh, 120v loss is closer to 30wh according to the ecoflow user forums im on)
I hadn't ever thought of that, but that's a great idea! I just wish you could then recharge the extra batteries stand alone somehow without the primary ecoflow unit. Seems like using them in this regard would make it tough to manage recharging them all.
@@uthe54 that is why I wont be buying any more add-on batteries. They were a great deal on black friday when they were only $275 but with no other way to charge them it doesnt make sense to own multiple unless ecoflow makes a standalone charger for them... which should be relatively easy to do considering the cable and connection. That should contain all critical battery signals so the only thing the charger would need to do is convert input power to the necessary voltage for these cells and balance charge them same as the unit does. They could probably use the exact same circuitry as the main unit just on a simpler, smaller board. Now that I think about it it seems odd that they havent done exactly that. They'd have a small, powerful unit that can run however long you need just by swapping batteries. If the main unit's battery was used as a UPS for swapping the external battery then it would never even turn off your devices when you make the swap. IDK about you but that sounds pretty appealing to me.
@@1FAST91SONOMA what about a second river pro + extra batteries? Then you could use the second unit as a solar charger too
I have a ipower 2300 by yamaha from Costco in my 44 footer sailboat, runs, 40 amps battery charger, 8000 btu ac, and all outlets in the boat, for 2 years, 24/7. 1 gallon every 9 hours.. I have an external outboard 6 gallon tank connected.
Yamaha makes good stuff!
How would you run an ac in a real situation using the gas generator?For instance no power and the ac cord not long enough to reach outside? I see you are using an extension cord?
Yes, extension cord.
Do u know the name of the extension cord ?
Did I miss something I didn't hear him say anything about what type Eco or Jackie he was using 500/1000? I'm guessing 1000 because I have the 500 Jackie and it wouldn't run my ac..
I would say if you want to use a generator, get one with 2000 W peak rating at the very least. Of course, if you have the cash, spend it on a good, renowned generator name like Honda. These are by far the least noisy, best output, the sine wave actually looks like a sine wave and can have a peak higher than the rated peak.
I've never really been a fan of such large batteries as even the small ones have shown, are a great way to turn your house into a bonfire.
Do you think that the WattFun 320W (640W peak) power station could run that or a portable air conditioner (e.g., 10,000 BTU) for at least for as long as the battery lasts? 🤔 Thank you.
Not familiar with the WattFun, but I doubt it. It would take a lot of cranking amps to get a 10k BTU unit started - logically double what it took my 5k. A quick example is I tried to start a 15k BTU AC unit on a 2200w max inverter generator and it didn't stand a chance.
Do you think you could start your 15k BTU portable ac with a 8750 (7000 running watts) gas generator? I have such an ac and wanted to buy a WEN gn875i generator to run it when power goes out.
@@YoBravaFrumAnuvaMuva I ran my ac in my rv with a 4450/5250 champion I believe it is. Number might be off by 1. But I ran mine all last two summers. It's an rv ready one but used reg plug for that straight from class c to geni n I am gonna box it in and mount it on my rv. I can't get the one that it comes with to work. Old guy I git it from days it just needs a plug but it's been sitting. Will see. Does turn over. But I'm o during if my hosue battery should a been a Amp cranking battery or how else would I start the onboard geni. Doenst it need to crank over. I'm new to this plus I'm a girl so it's a common sence question I'd say. But no one around me knows ans I've googled it. Didn't come with a battery so I'm.not sure what was in it. I wnet up one size but I forgot to check if it needed to be a cranking Amp battery not just a deep cycle. 😑 but my geni I bought was insale for under 500 so I grabbed it and never did try the house ac cuz the heat goes thru those tin cans so fast. I used inboard ac and it blew me out of the rv it was so cold it ran everything else n then some. Full tank on thsoe lasts 10 to 12 hrs for me.
Try with 12volt air conditioner theirs a velit and dometic
Or , 2 48 volts 300 watts solars painel with 48 volts controller, 4 180 amps lithium batteries, that runs all day long the same as my gas generator does.
Yeah I am looking for a solar gene to run my 5K ac in my home made tear drop camper for places a gas gene not welcome.
I'm guessing a 1000watt solar generator would work even better
That ecoflow only supports 200 watts of panel.
the video is from a year ago.. so its no point to chime in? its nice watching
How to know when you were going to say an AC joke
Junkery
So this was only tested for 2 mins? Lmaoooooo
I rather use gas generators
Got to use the right tool for the job. Gas generators are very useful, but batteries have their purpose also.
That’s a baby a/c should have tried something bigger no one and I mean no one is investing in a 5000 btu 😂
you need to work on your wording.
Who gives a shit if any of these will run the air conditioner for 5 minutes, make another video running the air conditioner 24/7 with solar assist or sit down.