U forgot one thing TATA and Aurbus are Planning to convert c295 into civil purposes for AirIndia to operate those aircraft for Small Airports under Udan Scheme
cheap russian fuel - that is making it easy for them, the benefitters of the sanctions. And no one is banning India for not participating in the bans. Maybe the next government will stop the invasion of indian students who come over here to study for free and let those pay as iindia is no longer a third world country.
Funny. Even Shiva chuckled... ...or not, and he just downgraded you in the karma cycle to a dung beetle in your next life for making fun of righteousness.
Hello Petter, Can I add few statistics of IndiGo please... 1. It operates over 2200 flights daily which is possibly 7th highest in the world.. 2. It carried over 100 million passengers in a Calendar year... Less than a handful of Airlines carry as many.. 3. Market capitalisation of IndiGo is only next to Delta Airlines & Ryan Air.. 4. Its clean safety record in its 18 years of operations Only less than 5% Indians fly which is not even a fraction of what developed world statistics is... So Indian aviation is still in its infancy...It's indeed poised for robust growth...
@@invertedaura1986 nope, I flied away similar way from Russia. But huge number of your citizens arrive here in Australia every year, the whole Parramatta (2nd city centre of Sydney) is 100% Indian area now, with Indian groceries, eateries and advocates making OCI.
And millions of them moving from poor into the middle class👍 This is good for everyone! Especially those who are now able to travel by air and generally live better lives🙂
Your big fan from India❤. I was 33 when I travelled by air for the first time. My son was 12, and my grand daughter a few days old, when their turn came. India is changing.
@@AKCreativeBanglore I was 15 when I first flew, and since then have flown several times. India is changing most definitely, but we need to keep it up.
Another advantage for India's airlines is their ability to fly over Russia. This allows for shorter routes, cheaper tickets, and no competition from western airlines on these routes for a probably long time.
@@shlok.shrivastav I was more thinking if India betting on continued absence of western airlines over Russia, which seems likely, India might think of taking over that capacity with some of these new planes.
@@Martin.Kefauver Yes, but they're stretched thin trying to cater to existing demand already and route expansion will have to wait until the new places come in, by which point we might already see a resolution to the conflict.
@@shlok.shrivastav Could be, but there is also a good probability normalizing the relations will take several decades to mend, hence India sees their chance of new routes.
The fact they're buying them outright rather than through lessors makes me wonder if they plan to keep them for long. Let's just say that Georgia is buying a lot of new luxury cars all of a sudden!
@@DrakeDHDerr Actually it may not be a lie. There are plenty of Christians in India with anglicised names. Especially in Goa (a former Portuguese Colony) and Kerala(33% Christian population)..
The Names can get a bit Strange . There is Stalin , I kid you not( Google Chief Minister of Tamilnadu), Washington Sundar( Presently playing for India against Australia), Baby Einstein, Meiyang Chang. Now to the Indians, dont gloat, Indonesians have Yudhishtira, Gatotkacha, Sadeo(Sahdev) etc. The Indian word for Water is Udaka(Vodka) , so !
@@DrakeDHDerr that's alright, mistakes happen. I'm catholic and an anglo Indian, which means I have British roots somewhere in my family tree along with Indian, hence the anglicized name
@@KedvespatikusYea, Vistara is no longer an airline. It merged with Air India on November 12 under the latter's brand. I do miss flying the purple bird.
@@Kedvespatikusmerged officially on November 12th. But the aircraft and crew will still have the Vistara livery for sometime. Further Air India has announced all the “tier 1 metro” flights will be operated only with the 3 class Vistara and the few Air India A32x narrow bodies. Progressively all AI narrow body will be reconfigured to 3 class. Business, Premium Economy and Economy.
@@christophermcdonald1122branding. Plus Vistara was never profitable. So cost’s has to controlled and losses merged. Plus Singapore Airlines has to be brought in and given a stake in the combined Air India. Already code shares are put and being put in place beyond Singapore and beyond AI’s primary gateways at Delhi, Mumbai and Bangalore.
@@shlok.shrivastavthey have a significant number of isngle aisle planes with businesss amc premium economy cabins. Or should i say they 'had' a lot of planes
@@shlok.shrivastav I didn't know Vistara had full economy planes towards the end. But it quite unmistakably had a bespoke business class product on both its short haul A320s and long haul 787s. And the brand was considered quite premium.
This is happening across ALL industries in India. Everyone is preparing for an exponential robust growth in the next decade or two. Hoping it all goes as planned.
Yeah, but the current govt is facing a lot of backlash on a lot of other things as well. Also, the work is slow. Govt can change as well in next year. But if the work is good in the next 5 years and tax is cut it’ll be better. Growth is inevitable tho but I’m not sure about the rate. Also, majority of our cities still suck tbh. So, a lot of space for growth there as well.
Great analysis Petter! Personally speaking and flying out of India, I believe one of the biggest challenges India faces at the moment is the scale and pace at which aviation infrastructure must grow to accommodate this rapid growth in the market. It currently does lack and it shows when you look into the finer details of parking and landing fees at most of the metro airports. Secondly, a lot of regulation needs to be streamlined with either ICAO standards or a more matured aviation environment like in the west in order to make it easier for all stakeholders in the industry to grow cohesively. The intra-country poaching that you touched on is still not that big a threat when it comes to pilot shortages and hiring as inter-country shift is. Most of it is due to draconian regulations making it, honestly, very lucrative for an airline pilot to just move out of India in order to get a better work-life balance vs pay. Just my two cents to your already thorough video! Safe landings
I am an aviation enthusiast now. I proudly say I was in the team who received the very first aircraft of IndiGo on Delhi airport back in year 2006. Love your videos. Just one thing at 2:55 the map of India is incorrect.
@@free_soul9154 It wasn't a low cost carrier by any means. It was as pricey as any other full service carrier and the service was amazing. Vistara flights to UK were better than their own British Airways flights. Atleast try to be a little less racist and ignorant and read about stuff (if you can).
You didn't cover the main point which is that most Indian LCC carriers have their fleet in a lease and sale back model. The first set of Indigo a320 neos which they ordered are already being sent back to their lessors, making them operate Newer, more fuel efficient aircraft. The fleet size of Indigo will never cross 600, by analysts estimates
Exactly what I said too. It's somewhat common afaik around the world, but Indigo's the one who uses it the most aggressively out of anywhere in the world.
This makes more sense because hearing about these carriers getting these planes my first question was one of manpower and where it was going to come from and at what level of quality it was.
Actually all carriers regardless follow SLB model. Air India’s legacy 777s were under a sovereign guaranteed loan with the US ExIm bank. Their 788s are also under SLBs. But now Indigo is changing its business model to include long leases beyond 6 years which were the ironclad model of Gangwal, now that he is out.
@@BangaloreAviation It's a privilege to hear from an expert like you! You & Ameya Joshi are the most detailed insightful experts of Indian aviation 🙏🏼 Been following you for years! Thank you
Good joke. The stuff made there is worse than Temu quality. We used to buy bolts from there but we stopped because they couldn't fix the quality issues. The bolts' heads would often snap right off. The iPhone 15 was notoriously poorly made. The vehicles too. Everything is bad quality
@@amg863 😂😂thats why big companies are flocking indian market to make money including iphone, nvidia etc...dont worry u will be a user of one of these brand plus a servant too.......
Once these aircraft are delivered, the competition with middle east airlines (emirates, qatar....) will heat up. Emirates uses a hub and spoke to get a large set of international travel passengers from india. These indian airlines will now provide point to point for indian passengers from the local cities.
@@shlok.shrivastavbut its not a fighter jet either. It is a military transport aircraft. I read some articles that tatas are interested in a civilian variant and are ready to place triple digit orders for it. That aircraft if made will be a competitir for atr and bomardier Q400 type of aircraft that are used for small airfield under udan scheme by indigo and spicejet among some others. The current fleet of AIX does not allow them to compete in that market as they only have 737 and 320's so that is why they want it.
The C-295 is not fuel efficient as a passenger airliner. It's airframe has very specific purposes ... ability to use short runways, easy deployment of paratroopers etc. Fuel efficiency is not its top priority.
Interestingly, India also has a record number of unemployed pilots, the pilot shortage refers to senior pilots , commanders, TRI and TRE's. There are PLENTY of First officers.
Thanks for covering the Indian aviation market. Currently, only 2-3% of India's population flies, and the government wants to increase that number to 10%. So imagine how many new passengers will fly in the next decade. Also, among existing passengers, the concept of frequent flying was previously very low but is increasing rapidly. Before 2020, I used to fly 1-2 times a year. In 2024 itself, I have flown nearly 12-14 times.
How the hell do you even become a spurs fan in India? I get it for someone who grew up in London, or for South Koreans coz they've got Son, but man you just set yourself up for eternal pain
@@LilywhitesIndia Man I wanna call a wellness check on the Intersection of the sets of RCB fans and spurs fans. Still could be worse, could be united over the past decade.
I'm from India and I 100℅ agree with what you said, Indian aviation is growing rapidly and they are gonna have shortage of EXPERIENCED PILOTS. Airline like Indigo and Air India have their own Cadet programs but still they hire from Conventional pathway too which says alot about the demand. But as a student Pilot I feel the quality of Instructors and Flight Schools in India isn't that great, Most of the ground instructors are not pilots themselves and the rest who are just teach for the sake of passing. Same is with flight schools they have alot of internal management issues, ego clashes, old aircrafta and very less freedom of flying. Until Indian authority (DGCA) does something about it INDIA is going to face problems in supply of Good Technical and Knowledge pilots.
Personally, I feel like the DGCA isn't that great either tbh. As an outsider, their reports into incidents always seem very lacking to me. Almost as if they're afraid of transparency.
IndiGo Cadet Pilot here, Firstly an amazing video like always! To answer some questions within my knowledge, 1. To combat pilot shortage IndiGo has opened up Cadet Pilot Programs with around 9 different FTOs across the world and I can vouch that the intake for these programs are staggeringly high. 2. IndiGo has started operating with its new business class offerings and I’m sure they will integrate it in their long haul A350s too, slowly shifting into a full service airline. 3. Airbus has opened up a new HQ for India and South Asia at Delhi Airport which shows potential for in-country manufacturing or assembly plants in the near future. Again, an amazing video, very informative like always, you’re an inspiration ❤
The government which cries make in India for everything, in fact, pushed Tesla out of the country with such demands, slept while placing such large orders. China, with similar orders in 2010s managed to bring in 30-40% components manufacturing locally, but even with close to 2000 planes order, largest in history, backed by government financial institutions, the government didn't put any effort to bring some amount of manufacturing locally
@Maxx1066 It's more complicated than that. India suffers from a duopoly in the aviation Sphere. Indigo or Air India/Express. Spicejet,Akasa,and especially India Air one are very uncommon. Compared to US,where you guys have Delta,Alaska,American,United,southwest,jetblue,and half a dozen smaller airlines,we have two airlines suckerpunching each other 24/7,while others barely survive,let alone grow. Akasa air barely has aircraft in my local airport. Not to mention other parts of our country. But yeah,seeing Indigo as the top customer of the a320 and Air India Express' pretty 737 fleet gives me joy.
@@Maxx1066air india is totally irresponsible. I got my flight cancelled and delayed 2 times this year. they don’t even cancel like a week back. they cancel like 2 days before when other flights ticket becomes very expensive
I am an Indian and I am only 25 years old , in the last 10 years India changed tremendously, I was born in a middle class family and I couldn’t imagine travelling domestically on airlines 10 years ago but things have changed and I can now afford to do so , and this is not just the case for me but there is a steady increase in income for Indians
Petter, kudos to your research team, however two corrections 1. Vistara isn't a LCC. 2. It's spelled Gandhi not Ghandi (Ghandi translates to crazy woman in Gujarati).
One thing perhaps could have been clarified better is that delivery of such large orders can span as much as 5-7 years so not all 1000 new aircraft are suddenly going to be available in the market. Given the current supply chain issues, makes delivery of these aircraft less predictable as well. So placing a large order brings in cost-efficiency while creating a buffer for delivery delays.
Indian airlines have a HUGE MARKET SHARE to TAKE BACK ! There are dozens of destinations were Air India was flying and has to fly again knowing that INDIAN DIASPORA has SWELLED hugely adding even more destinations to service.😊
Imagine if indian industrialists focused on R&D and enabled an aerospace ecosystem that could fully design and make local jets. India would save hundreds of billions of dollars from going out.
Thats how world economy work. If every country is for themself then they will be targetted (china). Countries will loan and invest and buy from other countries to increase influence. If india buys from us and if us did some sanctions india can end the trade which will be a huge blow to US economy. India was a closed country before 1992. More collaboration more power
I urge viewers to visit the Hindustan Aviation Museum in Bengaluru (Bangalore). Apart from the aviation geekery, there's a lot of great information around India's "indigenous first" policies, which makes it easier to see the costs (and benefits) of handing technology licenses to India. Also, Bengaluru is a lovely place full of really friendly people.
I’m just worried with the infrastructure issues of Bangalore. Because of poor Infrastructure we are losing many companies to different cities specifically to Hyderabad and central government is giving more priority to Gujarat. This very concerning
Very happy to see mentour now talking about our Country India ❤ I personally love flying with Akasa due to their brand new aircrafts but also gets afraid due to 737 past history. There are talks happening with govt to open either Airbus or Boeing facilities here or even both. Can't wait to see big planes being delivered from here. Thanks @mentournow for this video.
Indian Air Force is procuring 114 Multi Role Fighter Aircrafts(MRFA s). It is going to be the biggest defense deal of all times. Global companies like Boeing, Lockheed Martin (both American), Dussault (France), Saab(Sweden), Eurofighter(Consortium of European companies), Sukhoi & MiG (both Russian) are contenders for this mammoth contract. Budget is huge, more than Annual GDP of a midsize country like Pakistan. It known in the defense circles as "Mother of All Deals"
Air Fares need not be low, the percapita income of India is increasing every year. Just imagine when India hits 10K dollar percapita income, the demand for air travel increases a 1000 fold and I think Indian Airlines are preparing for this future.
Even if it's not so low, the demand will still be there. Many like me will probably prefer quality/comfort over cheapness. We need both, especially good luxury and infra at least for those who can afford
@ There is already a great demand for air travel in India. Just look at how packed flights are between metro cities. In future the demand’s gonna be insane and it’s good that Indian airlines have already started planning for the future inevitable demand
1. Thank you for covering this topic! 2. Was expecting some snapshots of news articles projecting a growing middle class that would lead to the increased demand or factors like limited growth in railway infrastructure 3. Vistara has never been an LCC 4. The way China demanded an FAL to place its orders in the past, India should also create more pressure to give impetus to its aviation industry, Airbus especially has too many orders from India now 5. Practically, I don't think India will ever replace China as a manufacturing hub, democracy will not let that happen 6. I am excited for new airports creating potential for a hub and spoke model for airlines and improved services by indian airlines on point to point routes, right now, emirates/GCC carriers are in substance the national airline for India on routes to NA and EU
Number 4: Absolutely and I'm surprised the combined orders from Indigo and Air India didn't manage to convince Airbus to set one up at the very least. Maybe they've become cautious after Comac (allegedly) stole an airplane.
Just wanted to correct something mentioned at 6:40. Vistara wasn’t a low-cost airline. it was a full-service premium carrier. In fact, it was awarded the 16th Best Airline in the World by Skytrax in 2024. While they did operate a few all-economy aircraft for smaller cities, the majority of their fleet, including the Airbus A321neo, offered premium services like 180-degree flat-bed seats in Business Class.
@@joecrammond6221 Petter didn't touch on that in any detail but Indigo have an extremely popular recruitment and training program in place aready. By the time the planes are delivered several years down the line, they will have the pilots to fly them. If you have doubts about the quality of training, bear in mind that they are among the top 5 countries in the world in the total number of flights per day for several years now and they have a pretty remarkable safety record. Numbers don't lie.
As an Indian economist once said, "India is a country that constantly disappoints both the pessimists and the optimists" Kudos to you for providing a very objective, neutral and balanced perspective on Indian airline industry 👍👍👏
I had the opportunity to watch & participate in a Lufthansa cargo livestream this week - they are banking big on India as an emerging market. After the pandemic revealed all the weaknesses in global supply chains, many companies are switching to a "China + 1" strategy when it comes to manufacturing aka keeping some of their existing production in China while also shifting some to newer locations in Vietnam and, of course, India. I've never flown on Air India, but from a cargo perspective, they have been notoriously terrible. Indian customs is also a nightmare when it comes to cargo. I can't tell you how many times I've had to come up with politic ways to say "no, we're not trying to smuggle - my dock guys are just morons".
Thank you Petter for covering this topic on Indian Aviation. Looking forward for India to be play a significant role in coming years in aviation industry.
Having worked in India: Large groups of workers have left companies to join their boss in a new company, I have seen whole teams do that in finance companies so I wouldn’t be surprised if that is something that people in aviation would also do, wouldn’t even need poaching at that
YES, THEY DO AND HAVE. One airline fails, other airlines gain. Examples: Pilots of Kingfisher airlines was snapped by Air India. Same with Jetairways. Same with Goair. There's also pilot poaching by two of the largest players: Airindia & Indigo.
One thing to note is that Air India was once considered to be the Emirates of Asia back in its heyday. They were often the early adopters of new aircraft types like B747 however, once the company was operated by the government, a lot of things changed. For example the quality of service and just the general condition of the planes was plain awful and prices remained higher than they should have been. Thus the confidence in government led Air India was steadily decreasing prior to the Tata acquisition. On the other hand carriers like Indigo have been able to gain market share with affordable ticket prices (Air India is often slightly more expensive than Indigo) and generally with better service more comfortable planes and also a higher number of available routes with higher frequency. Overall seeing Air India, Indigo and the general aviation industry growing in India is great and knowing that the flag carrier will be operated by Tata group one who is renowned for their quality of service (Vistara for example) there is little doubt that one day it will be the choice for the public. I am not the smartest tool in the shed so do correct me if i am wrong.
Thank you for the insight, it's hard to grasp what commercial aviation is like in a region I've never flown. To the other commenter, I'm sure what he meant was "of Asia back then" if you read the greater context.
If Shinkansen (Bullet Train/High Speed Rail) becomes successful there will be more demand for it than flights because India is ideal for it looking at the population density.
@@dr.python Correct. However. the technology of Shinkansen will not be happening. Rail infrastructure is important but it is not equivalent to Shinkansen.
Even IndiGo having 380 aircrafts now are facing ac shortages , they need so many more jets. Having a massive orders ensures constant supply of jet, while getting a bulk discounts, which indigo has done since its launch
Amazing how big countries with expanding economies can invest in the aviation industry which increases the global demand for planes which is good for the global economy as well! Great future for India!
Your whole team, from this channel and Mentour pilot, do a great job, im glad to youtube algoritm that recomended those channels years ago, only fewl 3 times in my life, not sure if ill step in another aircraf, but love the content
Ive been on a binge Mentour Pilot watch, having consumed your Director's Cut just recently when i got this recommended! I had no fears of this being an excellent and informative analysis of India's changing aviation growth and wasn't disappointed! Your feedbacks on rapid growth and a shortage of experienced and skilled crew are truly important points that i hope the people responsible look into! Great video❤
@@oatx There are at least a few ways to listen. If you don't have a shortwave radio at home with a good antenna then you go online to WebSDR, choose the station in the Netherlands at the University of Twenty. Aircraft transmitting on HF usually use the USB mode. I just heard Mumbai on 6661 khz. Other frequencies: 2872, 4657, 4675, 5601, 5658, 6655, 8909, 8948, 10018, and 10084. HF signals travel further, many thousands of miles, because those frequencies often bounce off the ionosphere. Also airlines oftentimes transmit digital information using ACARS stands for Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System. Some hobby savvy people have put together their own decoders to copy those signals, too.
Few corrections, Jet Airways was much bigger Airlines during it's peak and had similar fleet size to Air India. They also had great presence in European market. Vistara wasn't a low-cost Airlines, but was a full service. That's why it merged with Air India while Air Asia merged with Air India Express.
India is changing drastically under current leadership. India have bright future if we indians go in right direction. I see my fellow indians raised concern about the indian map shown in this video. I am following peter from the time he have 30k followers. This mistake may be from his production team. He is a wonderful human. Being indian i guarantee that he have no intention to hurt anyone or any hidden agenda behind it.I have same respect to him as much i respect my own brother. Lets focus on the information. Cheers
I am a FATA instructor and examiner pilot doing pilot training in India. India is going to be a global superpower in the next 10 years, and economy is growing rapidly, and of course the Indian airline industry is going to keep up with the growth.
Indigo operates that leased 777 between mumbai and Istanbul with a configuration of 520 full economy class seats and they operate all their a320 and a321 in a 4 hr radius distance from indian subcontinent all economy configuration... Love for ur channel from India Tamilnadu chennai 🙏 .
Indian Air Force is procuring 114 Multi Role Fighter Aircrafts(MRFA s). It is going to be the biggest defense deal of all times. Global companies like Boeing, Lockheed Martin (both American), Dussault (France), Saab(Sweden), Eurofighter(Consortium of European companies), Sukhoi & MiG (both Russian) are contenders for this mammoth contract. Budget is huge, more than Annual GDP of a midsize country like Pakistan. It is known in the defense circles as "Mother of All Deals"
Remember, Indians know travel better than anyone else in the planet. Just look at Singapore Airlines and who built it to what is is today; it was an India person named J Y M Pillai. He was the person PM Lee Kuan Yew trusted to take it from a struggling to the world’s best.
The TATA group made a major mistake in winding down Vistara, an airline with a quality reputation for service and comfort, in favour of Air India, a brand with a poor reputation that is forever linked to the Air India 182 disaster.
Vistara was good. But it was a loss-making unit and was competing with Indian Airlines, which again, a loss-making unit. It is unwise for any business to run two businesses competing against each other when both are loss-making. This should be the reason why TATA would up the Vistara operations. Plus, Singapore Airlines, I think they have taken up some shares in Air India as they wound up the Vistara operations
The reason is vistara was a small airline compared to Air India .vistara travels mostly domestically and international few sectors only . Like LHR, and middle East, southeast Asia. Air India has wide range they travel America, Australia , Hong Kong ,Singapore , European ,middle East, south Korea ,Japan etc .Another reason is history Air India has a history Tata was the founder of Air India and no father will abandon the name of their first child .Third reason was they were not the solo owner of vistara. It was a join collaboration of Tata sai group.
Another interesting thing: Indigo's leased Turkish 777s fly a full-economy cabin housing 531 seats. I've heard from people that flew in those flights that it's quite a strain to serve those many passengers for the BOM-IST route
The greatest operational cost is fuel, and India is getting highly discounted oil from Russia. Most of the world has an embargo on Russian oil because of the Ukraine invasion.
Very well covered on all aspects of Indian aviation. One Important thing of the growth in Indian aviation is more and more Indians now travel within India and around world for different reasons. Also weak rail network and road network makes airways fastest way to travel within cities in India.
AIRBUS building their factory with partnership of TATA to build C295 aircraft but i am sure boeing wont put their plant in india because of their employe strike their employees striking for everything
I’m super excited about how Air India will evolve. At the moment, it doesn’t look great and it’s still sorting out legacy issues and this is likely to take at least another 3-5 years. But the confidence in the Tata Group reinforces my belief that quality is going to be prioritised. Indigo’s a brilliant and very well-run low cost carrier and blows competition - domestic or international - out of contention. Delhi, Mumbai, and the new airport at NOIDA likely to become major regional hubs (the first two already are). We don’t have endless pools of resources like Qatar and the UAE nor the geographical advantage of Istanbul but we have a massive number of flyers and more traffic increasingly heading to regional destinations for tourism and business. So it’s going to be a less showy but hopefully as efficient in terms of infrastructure which supports the new orders being made by Air India and IndiGo.
I think you missed out something. Jet was largest airline in india with very good record, it seized operations in 2019 because its promoters were embezzling money from the business. Also, Air India was started by TATA then nationalized by Indian government then Tata bought it back a couple of years earlier. Now ehat they want is to make it as good as it was before nationalization. They are just renurturing their baby.
@MentourNow it's ironic you not mentioning Indian President bid to bring two Embraer assembly lines to India, on for the C-390 Milenium, which India is interested in ordering quite big number for this type of military plane, and another fed or the E-190 E2. A letter of understanding was agreed by both countries and Embraer to try to make it happen, if China don't get in way.
Funny to see that despite really bad air quality in most indian cities, more and more planes and airports are being expanded. Prepare your kids to keep coughing and deal with respiratory diseases most of their lives 😊
@@SmitePlayz1 and what does that has to do with aviation noob? Most Air breathing Jet Engines are extremely efficient and fly in the stratosphere so they're not polluting the air you breathe.
Just like China 20 years ago. But look what happens in China right now, they are in huge economic trouble and will have a hard time recovering. India still could go the same way someday.
My Air India flight was cancelled after incoming aircraft had such a hard landing at Vizakhapatnam it wasn’t allowed to fly again , so perhaps their attrition rate is a bit higher.
@@elestromusicgamesfun1101 Your data is little more than outdated, that was a figure from the 80s. Current estimates are somewhere around (or below) 10 percent.
@@mumar100Ur maths is as fcked up as ur logic, there's this variable called time. I could say that humans drink 40,000 litres of water in their lifetime, so does that mean there will be drought tomorrow ? Think about it.
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U forgot one thing TATA and Aurbus are Planning to convert c295 into civil purposes for AirIndia to operate those aircraft for Small Airports under Udan Scheme
cheap russian fuel - that is making it easy for them, the benefitters of the sanctions.
And no one is banning India for not participating in the bans.
Maybe the next government will stop the invasion of indian students who come over here to study for free and let those pay as iindia is no longer a third world country.
VISTRA AIS NOT A LOW COST CARRIER IT IS A FULL SERVICE CARRIEER
Please use correct map of India.
I am missing your Bluesky handle in the video description
India has a jet engine intake on its flag, so what are you expecting?
HAHAHA LMAO, i never noticed that till now
Looks better than the INC's Swaraj flag with the Charkha at least.
Hahaha😂😂😂
Funny. Even Shiva chuckled...
...or not, and he just downgraded you in the karma cycle to a dung beetle in your next life for making fun of righteousness.
Nice one... 😂
Hello Petter,
Can I add few statistics of IndiGo please...
1. It operates over 2200 flights daily which is possibly 7th highest in the world..
2. It carried over 100 million passengers in a Calendar year... Less than a handful of Airlines carry as many..
3. Market capitalisation of IndiGo is only next to Delta Airlines & Ryan Air..
4. Its clean safety record in its 18 years of operations
Only less than 5% Indians fly which is not even a fraction of what developed world statistics is... So Indian aviation is still in its infancy...It's indeed poised for robust growth...
Actually most indian airlines have had great safety records. I am low key proud of that as an indian.
as soon as Indian citizen becomes able to fly - he flies away, to California to code or Australia to drive uber!
@@antontsau you maybe, not me. Most of us actually find jobs and live happy lives here in India. Shocking, I know.
@@invertedaura1986 nope, I flied away similar way from Russia. But huge number of your citizens arrive here in Australia every year, the whole Parramatta (2nd city centre of Sydney) is 100% Indian area now, with Indian groceries, eateries and advocates making OCI.
@@antontsau haha for you it might be a large number, but its actually just a drop of the ocean in india lol
Well, I heard a few people live in India.
Yeah just 1+ billion people rookie numbers
Just a few 😂
And millions of them moving from poor into the middle class👍
This is good for everyone! Especially those who are now able to travel by air and generally live better lives🙂
Yeah, but really just a few. The country is only ranked #1 in the world in number of inhabitants.
@@torstenscholz6243count the billion cobras, too.
Your big fan from India❤. I was 33 when I travelled by air for the first time. My son was 12, and my grand daughter a few days old, when their turn came. India is changing.
This is a great analogy. Same here I was 27 when I first flew & my daughter flew first when she was 1 year old.
@@AKCreativeBanglore I was 15 when I first flew, and since then have flown several times. India is changing most definitely, but we need to keep it up.
Another advantage for India's airlines is their ability to fly over Russia. This allows for shorter routes, cheaper tickets, and no competition from western airlines on these routes for a probably long time.
They don't take advantage of it too much unlike Chinese Airlines. Most of India's international flights go to the Middle East.
@@shlok.shrivastav I was more thinking if India betting on continued absence of western airlines over Russia, which seems likely, India might think of taking over that capacity with some of these new planes.
@@Martin.Kefauver Yes, but they're stretched thin trying to cater to existing demand already and route expansion will have to wait until the new places come in, by which point we might already see a resolution to the conflict.
@@shlok.shrivastav Could be, but there is also a good probability normalizing the relations will take several decades to mend, hence India sees their chance of new routes.
The fact they're buying them outright rather than through lessors makes me wonder if they plan to keep them for long. Let's just say that Georgia is buying a lot of new luxury cars all of a sudden!
As an indian pilot, I'm so excited to see that Petter has finally made a video about the indian aviation industry!
@@DrakeDHDerr
Actually it may not be a lie.
There are plenty of Christians in India with anglicised names. Especially in Goa (a former Portuguese Colony) and Kerala(33% Christian population)..
The Names can get a bit Strange . There is Stalin , I kid you not( Google Chief Minister of Tamilnadu), Washington Sundar( Presently playing for India against Australia), Baby Einstein, Meiyang Chang. Now to the Indians, dont gloat, Indonesians have Yudhishtira, Gatotkacha, Sadeo(Sahdev) etc. The Indian word for Water is Udaka(Vodka) , so !
@@siran424 now i feel so stupid
@@DrakeDHDerr india has like 30 million christians dawg
@@DrakeDHDerr that's alright, mistakes happen. I'm catholic and an anglo Indian, which means I have British roots somewhere in my family tree along with Indian, hence the anglicized name
Vistara was a full service carrier in collaboration with Singapore Airlines.
Was? Just Three weeks ago I was still flying with them...🤔 Was their merger with Air India finished since then?
@@KedvespatikusYea, Vistara is no longer an airline. It merged with Air India on November 12 under the latter's brand. I do miss flying the purple bird.
Vistara, not Air India, should have been the surviving airline.
@@Kedvespatikusmerged officially on November 12th. But the aircraft and crew will still have the Vistara livery for sometime. Further Air India has announced all the “tier 1 metro” flights will be operated only with the 3 class Vistara and the few Air India A32x narrow bodies. Progressively all AI narrow body will be reconfigured to 3 class. Business, Premium Economy and Economy.
@@christophermcdonald1122branding. Plus Vistara was never profitable. So cost’s has to controlled and losses merged. Plus Singapore Airlines has to be brought in and given a stake in the combined Air India. Already code shares are put and being put in place beyond Singapore and beyond AI’s primary gateways at Delhi, Mumbai and Bangalore.
indigo is such a good name
6:42 Vistara was NOT a low cost carrier lol
Ig he said that coz they added all economy planes at the end? Still it was full service, so it shouldn't have been counted even then.
@@shlok.shrivastavthey have a significant number of isngle aisle planes with businesss amc premium economy cabins.
Or should i say they 'had' a lot of planes
@@shlok.shrivastav I didn't know Vistara had full economy planes towards the end. But it quite unmistakably had a bespoke business class product on both its short haul A320s and long haul 787s. And the brand was considered quite premium.
@@shlok.shrivastavI believe they had only two such aircraft. I had the misfortune of using one of them recently
6:42 vistara is a full service career of @mentourpilot
This is happening across ALL industries in India. Everyone is preparing for an exponential robust growth in the next decade or two. Hoping it all goes as planned.
I am hyped 😎😎😁😁😁 let's goooo😲😲
Not really, CapEx ex-infra has been weak.
Yeah, but the current govt is facing a lot of backlash on a lot of other things as well. Also, the work is slow. Govt can change as well in next year. But if the work is good in the next 5 years and tax is cut it’ll be better. Growth is inevitable tho but I’m not sure about the rate. Also, majority of our cities still suck tbh. So, a lot of space for growth there as well.
UDAN meaning - flight
UDAN full form- Ude Desh ka Aam Nagrik meaning - let common man of country fly
Thanks
Love ur display name lmfao
Bro unironically named himself signa 😅
@@SoulDuckling126 that's a troll name. 😂 Bhikari means poor
Lol mamata didi op hamba hamba
Great analysis Petter! Personally speaking and flying out of India, I believe one of the biggest challenges India faces at the moment is the scale and pace at which aviation infrastructure must grow to accommodate this rapid growth in the market. It currently does lack and it shows when you look into the finer details of parking and landing fees at most of the metro airports.
Secondly, a lot of regulation needs to be streamlined with either ICAO standards or a more matured aviation environment like in the west in order to make it easier for all stakeholders in the industry to grow cohesively. The intra-country poaching that you touched on is still not that big a threat when it comes to pilot shortages and hiring as inter-country shift is. Most of it is due to draconian regulations making it, honestly, very lucrative for an airline pilot to just move out of India in order to get a better work-life balance vs pay. Just my two cents to your already thorough video! Safe landings
Coconuts😂😂
Vistara was not a low cost carrier - It was full service.
I mean in indian standards it is full service 😂😂
@@roro-v3zBy anybody’s standards this is racist.
@@silverXnoisefr
@@roro-v3zthey’re much better than European and American Airlines
Can’t say the same for many middle eastern and Asian tho
@@roro-v3z White boy is still living under a rock
I am an aviation enthusiast now. I proudly say I was in the team who received the very first aircraft of IndiGo on Delhi airport back in year 2006. Love your videos. Just one thing at 2:55 the map of India is incorrect.
Yes, I'm happy someone else saw that too... Google does have these conspiracy maps cutting off our land for God knows what reason 🤨
its the correct map. its the map used everywhere outside india
@@draroking being used and being correct is different
They just straight up cut the "disputed" land out without atleast marking it, what insanity
@@drarokingit is infact, not correct
Indigo loves their 320 neo alot
They do, they've had some engine issues, though
@@MentourNow So did GO First, and that's a major cause for their bankruptcy. Surprised more people haven't sued PW
A bonus MN episode that I was not expecting. 🤩
Greetings from the Patreon Crew
All those plane have PW engine.
@@shlok.shrivastavyeah that’s why indigo switched to CFM and are retiring planes with PW
Correction @ 6:40 : Vistara was a full service “premium” airline in partnership with SG. Air Asia was “low cost”
No it's a low cost airline
@@free_soul9154 It wasn't a low cost carrier by any means. It was as pricey as any other full service carrier and the service was amazing. Vistara flights to UK were better than their own British Airways flights. Atleast try to be a little less racist and ignorant and read about stuff (if you can).
You didn't cover the main point which is that most Indian LCC carriers have their fleet in a lease and sale back model. The first set of Indigo a320 neos which they ordered are already being sent back to their lessors, making them operate Newer, more fuel efficient aircraft. The fleet size of Indigo will never cross 600, by analysts estimates
Exactly what I said too. It's somewhat common afaik around the world, but Indigo's the one who uses it the most aggressively out of anywhere in the world.
This makes more sense because hearing about these carriers getting these planes my first question was one of manpower and where it was going to come from and at what level of quality it was.
Yup a lot of their planes from the first batch are now flying in south east asia so those 1300 aircrafts are for growth + continuous fleet renewal
Actually all carriers regardless follow SLB model. Air India’s legacy 777s were under a sovereign guaranteed loan with the US ExIm bank. Their 788s are also under SLBs.
But now Indigo is changing its business model to include long leases beyond 6 years which were the ironclad model of Gangwal, now that he is out.
@@BangaloreAviation It's a privilege to hear from an expert like you! You & Ameya Joshi are the most detailed insightful experts of Indian aviation 🙏🏼 Been following you for years! Thank you
In many fields, we see India making a huge effort to strive
Good joke. The stuff made there is worse than Temu quality. We used to buy bolts from there but we stopped because they couldn't fix the quality issues. The bolts' heads would often snap right off. The iPhone 15 was notoriously poorly made. The vehicles too. Everything is bad quality
@@amg863 Ok, this might be true. But they are learning.
@@amg863 😂😂thats why big companies are flocking indian market to make money including iphone, nvidia etc...dont worry u will be a user of one of these brand plus a servant too.......
@@amg863 bad news ! " For you " . Apple will expand its manufacturing capacity in India . Cope lol
@@GOGOname that is bad news because the quality is going to be atrocious. They can't build anything.
Once these aircraft are delivered, the competition with middle east airlines (emirates, qatar....) will heat up. Emirates uses a hub and spoke to get a large set of international travel passengers from india. These indian airlines will now provide point to point for indian passengers from the local cities.
It’s definitely going to be interesting to see how that pans out.
Hell no, try and match the experience with middle east and india, you'll get a vastly different experience.
@@tds_lunarrx5056 No one wants to use a hub, if it's nonstop they'll get outcompeted anw.
@@tds_lunarrx5056if it was that bad, then no one would be flying on Air India, Vistara, Indigo or Jet Airways in the old times.
@@shlok.shrivastav Icelandair used a hub and spoke model very effectively, but they are also uniquely positioned for it.
India becoming the new aviation hub.. amazing
Airbus and TATA have already opened their C-295 factory in Gujarat.....
He touched on that near the end, and it's not civilian aircraft production tbf
@@shlok.shrivastav Civilian, military, it's all the same... to the Israelis. :(
@@shlok.shrivastavbut its not a fighter jet either. It is a military transport aircraft. I read some articles that tatas are interested in a civilian variant and are ready to place triple digit orders for it.
That aircraft if made will be a competitir for atr and bomardier Q400 type of aircraft that are used for small airfield under udan scheme by indigo and spicejet among some others.
The current fleet of AIX does not allow them to compete in that market as they only have 737 and 320's so that is why they want it.
The C-295 is not fuel efficient as a passenger airliner. It's airframe has very specific purposes ... ability to use short runways, easy deployment of paratroopers etc. Fuel efficiency is not its top priority.
Why does Gujarat get all the cool projects. Kinda unfair.
Interestingly, India also has a record number of unemployed pilots, the pilot shortage refers to senior pilots , commanders, TRI and TRE's. There are PLENTY of First officers.
As usual, whenever the cry of labour shortage can be heard, there is a business agenda at play.
@@Boababa-fn3mr so nicely summed up, I would have needed 200 words to explain this.
This was very well researched and made! Well done❤
Thanks! I hope you enjoyed it!
Thanks for covering the Indian aviation market. Currently, only 2-3% of India's population flies, and the government wants to increase that number to 10%. So imagine how many new passengers will fly in the next decade. Also, among existing passengers, the concept of frequent flying was previously very low but is increasing rapidly. Before 2020, I used to fly 1-2 times a year. In 2024 itself, I have flown nearly 12-14 times.
Great for the environment then!
@@SteveLawrence-ew9uu yeah when India grows there come environment. Where are you gone when your country doing same thing😂.
@@SteveLawrence-ew9uu Thats very hypocrytical. It's all right for rich nations to have airtravel but not for poorer nations?
@@SteveLawrence-ew9uu then richer Nations should reduce their air travel, that's equality.
@@SteveLawrence-ew9uutake a 72 hour train journey instead of 3 hour plane ride. Sure😂
Thank you for covering this!
You're welcome, I hope you liked it!
@MentourNow Loved it! I haven't read or watched such a thorough analysis by any of the media outlets here in India. You did an AMAZING job. 💙🙏🏻
How the hell do you even become a spurs fan in India? I get it for someone who grew up in London, or for South Koreans coz they've got Son, but man you just set yourself up for eternal pain
@shlok.shrivastav There are a lot of spurs fans in India bhai. They've been suffering for decades now. Come to our screenings someday 😁
@@LilywhitesIndia Man I wanna call a wellness check on the Intersection of the sets of RCB fans and spurs fans.
Still could be worse, could be united over the past decade.
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I'm from India and I 100℅ agree with what you said, Indian aviation is growing rapidly and they are gonna have shortage of EXPERIENCED PILOTS.
Airline like Indigo and Air India have their own Cadet programs but still they hire from Conventional pathway too which says alot about the demand.
But as a student Pilot I feel the quality of Instructors and Flight Schools in India isn't that great, Most of the ground instructors are not pilots themselves and the rest who are just teach for the sake of passing. Same is with flight schools they have alot of internal management issues, ego clashes, old aircrafta and very less freedom of flying.
Until Indian authority (DGCA) does something about it INDIA is going to face problems in supply of Good Technical and Knowledge pilots.
Thank you for your input, good luck with your training!
Personally, I feel like the DGCA isn't that great either tbh. As an outsider, their reports into incidents always seem very lacking to me. Almost as if they're afraid of transparency.
@@shlok.shrivastav agreed.
@@shlok.shrivastav Yes. Also they talk big when an incident happens and then go silent. May be they dont want to upset the power.
I wouldn’t fly with an Indian airline if I could avoid it. Safety is a thing I value a lot…
IndiGo Cadet Pilot here,
Firstly an amazing video like always!
To answer some questions within my knowledge,
1. To combat pilot shortage IndiGo has opened up Cadet Pilot Programs with around 9 different FTOs across the world and I can vouch that the intake for these programs are staggeringly high.
2. IndiGo has started operating with its new business class offerings and I’m sure they will integrate it in their long haul A350s too, slowly shifting into a full service airline.
3. Airbus has opened up a new HQ for India and South Asia at Delhi Airport which shows potential for in-country manufacturing or assembly plants in the near future.
Again, an amazing video, very informative like always, you’re an inspiration ❤
how much is it costing to get it??
The government which cries make in India for everything, in fact, pushed Tesla out of the country with such demands, slept while placing such large orders. China, with similar orders in 2010s managed to bring in 30-40% components manufacturing locally, but even with close to 2000 planes order, largest in history, backed by government financial institutions, the government didn't put any effort to bring some amount of manufacturing locally
@@chi-8289Tesla wanted special tax exemptions. They don't hold a technological lead anymore to warrant that
When you say the intake capacity is "staggeringly high", can you give a rough number ?
Good luck with your training!
Fun to watch mentour talking about my country.
I hope you enjoyed it!
Your country is moving forward while most Western Country's go backwards
@Maxx1066 It's more complicated than that. India suffers from a duopoly in the aviation Sphere. Indigo or Air India/Express.
Spicejet,Akasa,and especially India Air one are very uncommon. Compared to US,where you guys have Delta,Alaska,American,United,southwest,jetblue,and half a dozen smaller airlines,we have two airlines suckerpunching each other 24/7,while others barely survive,let alone grow. Akasa air barely has aircraft in my local airport. Not to mention other parts of our country.
But yeah,seeing Indigo as the top customer of the a320 and Air India Express' pretty 737 fleet gives me joy.
I'm so sorry you live in a shit hole. I'm sorry you country is full of scammers and idiots.
@@Maxx1066air india is totally irresponsible. I got my flight cancelled and delayed 2 times this year. they don’t even cancel like a week back. they cancel like 2 days before when other flights ticket becomes very expensive
I am an Indian and I am only 25 years old , in the last 10 years India changed tremendously, I was born in a middle class family and I couldn’t imagine travelling domestically on airlines 10 years ago but things have changed and I can now afford to do so , and this is not just the case for me but there is a steady increase in income for Indians
Guess because of whom? 😂😂 (Hint hint - I'm from Gujarat 😂😂)!
@kushajagarwal9761 Modiji and bjp
You are wrong.
Sanghi bots 😅
You are right 👍
Oops! Vistara Airlines wasn't a low cost carrier but Air Asia India was.
Petter, kudos to your research team, however two corrections
1. Vistara isn't a LCC.
2. It's spelled Gandhi not Ghandi (Ghandi translates to crazy woman in Gujarati).
chup jar gujju
They are definitely reserving delivery slots for years to come.
Yes and that could actually be a key strategy of theirs...
One thing perhaps could have been clarified better is that delivery of such large orders can span as much as 5-7 years so not all 1000 new aircraft are suddenly going to be available in the market. Given the current supply chain issues, makes delivery of these aircraft less predictable as well. So placing a large order brings in cost-efficiency while creating a buffer for delivery delays.
Exactly. Expecting delays in manufacturing and having your orders ahead of other countries.
Indian airlines have a HUGE MARKET SHARE to TAKE BACK !
There are dozens of destinations were Air India was flying and has to fly again knowing that INDIAN DIASPORA has SWELLED hugely adding even more destinations to service.😊
Imagine if indian industrialists focused on R&D and enabled an aerospace ecosystem that could fully design and make local jets. India would save hundreds of billions of dollars from going out.
Thats how world economy work. If every country is for themself then they will be targetted (china). Countries will loan and invest and buy from other countries to increase influence. If india buys from us and if us did some sanctions india can end the trade which will be a huge blow to US economy. India was a closed country before 1992. More collaboration more power
I urge viewers to visit the Hindustan Aviation Museum in Bengaluru (Bangalore). Apart from the aviation geekery, there's a lot of great information around India's "indigenous first" policies, which makes it easier to see the costs (and benefits) of handing technology licenses to India. Also, Bengaluru is a lovely place full of really friendly people.
I’m just worried with the infrastructure issues of Bangalore. Because of poor Infrastructure we are losing many companies to different cities specifically to Hyderabad and central government is giving more priority to Gujarat. This very concerning
@@MrKumail123 Agree - Bagmane is no Hitech City.
Very happy to see mentour now talking about our Country India ❤ I personally love flying with Akasa due to their brand new aircrafts but also gets afraid due to 737 past history. There are talks happening with govt to open either Airbus or Boeing facilities here or even both. Can't wait to see big planes being delivered from here. Thanks @mentournow for this video.
Man I miss Jet Airways...
Yes, Indian skies badly miss those 9Ws
I miss Pan Am
I never even liked them. Always Indigo over Jet.
Indian Air Force is procuring 114 Multi Role Fighter Aircrafts(MRFA s). It is going to be the biggest defense deal of all times. Global companies like Boeing, Lockheed Martin (both American), Dussault (France), Saab(Sweden), Eurofighter(Consortium of European companies), Sukhoi & MiG (both Russian) are contenders for this mammoth contract. Budget is huge, more than Annual GDP of a midsize country like Pakistan. It known in the defense circles as "Mother of All Deals"
Trains in India are always full, as long as the ticket price can be low enough there's yuge demand
Air Fares need not be low, the percapita income of India is increasing every year. Just imagine when India hits 10K dollar percapita income, the demand for air travel increases a 1000 fold and I think Indian Airlines are preparing for this future.
Even if it's not so low, the demand will still be there. Many like me will probably prefer quality/comfort over cheapness. We need both, especially good luxury and infra at least for those who can afford
@ There is already a great demand for air travel in India. Just look at how packed flights are between metro cities. In future the demand’s gonna be insane and it’s good that Indian airlines have already started planning for the future inevitable demand
Vistara was one of my favourite airlines
The population of India is more than the total population of the continent of Africa. Even if 20% of them fly, you need thousands of planes
1. Thank you for covering this topic!
2. Was expecting some snapshots of news articles projecting a growing middle class that would lead to the increased demand or factors like limited growth in railway infrastructure
3. Vistara has never been an LCC
4. The way China demanded an FAL to place its orders in the past, India should also create more pressure to give impetus to its aviation industry, Airbus especially has too many orders from India now
5. Practically, I don't think India will ever replace China as a manufacturing hub, democracy will not let that happen
6. I am excited for new airports creating potential for a hub and spoke model for airlines and improved services by indian airlines on point to point routes, right now, emirates/GCC carriers are in substance the national airline for India on routes to NA and EU
Number 4: Absolutely and I'm surprised the combined orders from Indigo and Air India didn't manage to convince Airbus to set one up at the very least.
Maybe they've become cautious after Comac (allegedly) stole an airplane.
@ haha yes!
Just wanted to correct something mentioned at 6:40.
Vistara wasn’t a low-cost airline.
it was a full-service premium carrier.
In fact, it was awarded the 16th Best Airline in the World by Skytrax in 2024.
While they did operate a few all-economy aircraft for smaller cities, the majority of their fleet, including the Airbus A321neo, offered premium services like 180-degree flat-bed seats in Business Class.
i wish both airlines good luck but hope they don't exceed their limits, history shows what happens when an airlines expands far too rapidly
With a changing market it's hard to judge what "too rapidly" means in this case
too many planes, not enough pilots to match, pilots not getting enough training,
@@joecrammond6221 They're setting up new flight schools
I just wanna wish you both good luck. We're all counting on you.
@@joecrammond6221 Petter didn't touch on that in any detail but Indigo have an extremely popular recruitment and training program in place aready. By the time the planes are delivered several years down the line, they will have the pilots to fly them.
If you have doubts about the quality of training, bear in mind that they are among the top 5 countries in the world in the total number of flights per day for several years now and they have a pretty remarkable safety record. Numbers don't lie.
As an Indian economist once said,
"India is a country that constantly disappoints both the pessimists and the optimists"
Kudos to you for providing a very objective, neutral and balanced perspective on Indian airline industry 👍👍👏
I had the opportunity to watch & participate in a Lufthansa cargo livestream this week - they are banking big on India as an emerging market.
After the pandemic revealed all the weaknesses in global supply chains, many companies are switching to a "China + 1" strategy when it comes to manufacturing aka keeping some of their existing production in China while also shifting some to newer locations in Vietnam and, of course, India.
I've never flown on Air India, but from a cargo perspective, they have been notoriously terrible. Indian customs is also a nightmare when it comes to cargo. I can't tell you how many times I've had to come up with politic ways to say "no, we're not trying to smuggle - my dock guys are just morons".
Being Airbus India employee, I feel really proud of what is going on here in Inda
❤ From India
Thank you Petter for covering this topic on Indian Aviation. Looking forward for India to be play a significant role in coming years in aviation industry.
Excellent report with good information, non-repetitive and no BS!
Having worked in India: Large groups of workers have left companies to join their boss in a new company, I have seen whole teams do that in finance companies so I wouldn’t be surprised if that is something that people in aviation would also do, wouldn’t even need poaching at that
YES, THEY DO AND HAVE. One airline fails, other airlines gain. Examples: Pilots of Kingfisher airlines was snapped by
Air India. Same with Jetairways. Same with Goair. There's also pilot poaching by two of the largest players: Airindia & Indigo.
Wonderful detailed information. Thanks.❤
One thing to note is that Air India was once considered to be the Emirates of Asia back in its heyday. They were often the early adopters of new aircraft types like B747 however, once the company was operated by the government, a lot of things changed. For example the quality of service and just the general condition of the planes was plain awful and prices remained higher than they should have been.
Thus the confidence in government led Air India was steadily decreasing prior to the Tata acquisition.
On the other hand carriers like Indigo have been able to gain market share with affordable ticket prices (Air India is often slightly more expensive than Indigo) and generally with better service more comfortable planes and also a higher number of available routes with higher frequency.
Overall seeing Air India, Indigo and the general aviation industry growing in India is great and knowing that the flag carrier will be operated by Tata group one who is renowned for their quality of service (Vistara for example) there is little doubt that one day it will be the choice for the public.
I am not the smartest tool in the shed so do correct me if i am wrong.
Emirates of Asia? The UAE itself is an Asian country. Are you referring to the times before Emirates came into existence?
Thank you for the insight, it's hard to grasp what commercial aviation is like in a region I've never flown.
To the other commenter, I'm sure what he meant was "of Asia back then" if you read the greater context.
@@prathamsalvi4027Absolutely before Emirates and other gulf airlines were more popular.
Incredible Information 💯 Loved it
If Shinkansen (Bullet Train/High Speed Rail) becomes successful there will be more demand for it than flights because India is ideal for it looking at the population density.
There won't be any Shinkansen now. India rejected Japan's bid after Japan increased their initial bid price by 140%.
@@parker4406 Still the original Mumbai-Delhi deal stands which includes transfer of technology for India to build its ow lines in the future
@@dr.python Correct. However. the technology of Shinkansen will not be happening. Rail infrastructure is important but it is not equivalent to Shinkansen.
Even IndiGo having 380 aircrafts now are facing ac shortages , they need so many more jets.
Having a massive orders ensures constant supply of jet, while getting a bulk discounts, which indigo has done since its launch
SUPPLY AND DEMAND.
Amazing how big countries with expanding economies can invest in the aviation industry which increases the global demand for planes which is good for the global economy as well! Great future for India!
Your whole team, from this channel and Mentour pilot, do a great job, im glad to youtube algoritm that recomended those channels years ago, only fewl 3 times in my life, not sure if ill step in another aircraf, but love the content
Ive been on a binge Mentour Pilot watch, having consumed your Director's Cut just recently when i got this recommended! I had no fears of this being an excellent and informative analysis of India's changing aviation growth and wasn't disappointed! Your feedbacks on rapid growth and a shortage of experienced and skilled crew are truly important points that i hope the people responsible look into! Great video❤
Anyone ever listen to Mumbai ATC on HF frequencies? Crazy busy!
how to listen?
These days most cpdlc enabled aircarft just check in once to say they are cpdlc with Mumbai radio...
@@oatxuse a HF USB receiver...
Or home brew a vfo...
Freq are listed in iNetra portal of AAI
@@oatx There are at least a few ways to listen. If you don't have a shortwave radio at home with a good antenna then you go online to WebSDR, choose the station in the Netherlands at the University of Twenty. Aircraft transmitting on HF usually use the USB mode. I just heard Mumbai on 6661 khz. Other frequencies: 2872, 4657, 4675, 5601, 5658, 6655, 8909, 8948, 10018, and 10084. HF signals travel further, many thousands of miles, because those frequencies often bounce off the ionosphere. Also airlines oftentimes transmit digital information using ACARS stands for Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System. Some hobby savvy people have put together their own decoders to copy those signals, too.
@@vu2pmc My guess is that eventually most voice communication will become obsolete.
Few corrections, Jet Airways was much bigger Airlines during it's peak and had similar fleet size to Air India. They also had great presence in European market.
Vistara wasn't a low-cost Airlines, but was a full service. That's why it merged with Air India while Air Asia merged with Air India Express.
Great to see videos about other countries. I would suggest one about Brazil. Gol on chapter 11, Azul struggles and Latam winning the market.
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll look into it!
The amount of research you have done is brilliant.❤
India is changing drastically under current leadership. India have bright future if we indians go in right direction. I see my fellow indians raised concern about the indian map shown in this video. I am following peter from the time he have 30k followers. This mistake may be from his production team. He is a wonderful human. Being indian i guarantee that he have no intention to hurt anyone or any hidden agenda behind it.I have same respect to him as much i respect my own brother. Lets focus on the information. Cheers
Congress 1947 to 14
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Amazing Video and good research.
Keep up the good work 👍🏻
India is not just raising , it's roaring .
Bold and bankrupt😂
@@KegamerFf-z6nthat’s Pakistan and srilanka with the bankruptcy. Not India.
As an Indian, finally a video on Indian aviation market. Loved it!
I am a FATA instructor and examiner pilot doing pilot training in India.
India is going to be a global superpower in the next 10 years, and economy is growing rapidly, and of course the Indian airline industry is going to keep up with the growth.
how will it overcome the very highly regional and fractured economy?
Regional? India’s population increase every year equals Australian population @@gnoufignon
@@gnoufignon The Soth asian neighbours are not very significant to begin with.
There are states in India with more GDP than every subcon nation
very informative...thnx mate....
Correcting you at 06:41 Vistara wasn't a low cost carrier. It was a full service airline
Indigo operates that leased 777 between mumbai and Istanbul with a configuration of 520 full economy class seats and they operate all their a320 and a321 in a 4 hr radius distance from indian subcontinent all economy configuration... Love for ur channel from India Tamilnadu chennai 🙏 .
Oh no 😢. Mentour has no idea what he just did. Bro just summoned the whole of India now 🇮🇳
Hahaha. As an Indian, I love this. Let the fun and games begin 😂
Now they are going to sheet in comment section
@@icyy9864 be respectful bro, we have no enmity with you ❤
@nicotinerosberg Little do we know that was his strategy all along. 🤣🤣
Indian Air Force is procuring 114 Multi Role Fighter Aircrafts(MRFA s). It is going to be the biggest defense deal of all times. Global companies like Boeing, Lockheed Martin (both American), Dussault (France), Saab(Sweden), Eurofighter(Consortium of European companies), Sukhoi & MiG (both Russian) are contenders for this mammoth contract. Budget is huge, more than Annual GDP of a midsize country like Pakistan. It is known in the defense circles as "Mother of All Deals"
Indians!!!!
We have been summoned!!!!
Remember, Indians know travel better than anyone else in the planet. Just look at Singapore Airlines and who built it to what is is today; it was an India person named J Y M Pillai. He was the person PM Lee Kuan Yew trusted to take it from a struggling to the world’s best.
If Indians know travel best then why didn't their airlines do well for the past few decades
@ I said travel; not business!!! Dai, read the post carefully before you talk.
Brilliant analysis as usual thanks for covering India ❤
The indian economy is growing very fast :)
Great news for India... May they continue to prosper 🙏🙏
The TATA group made a major mistake in winding down Vistara, an airline with a quality reputation for service and comfort, in favour of Air India, a brand with a poor reputation that is forever linked to the Air India 182 disaster.
Vistara was good. But it was a loss-making unit and was competing with Indian Airlines, which again, a loss-making unit. It is unwise for any business to run two businesses competing against each other when both are loss-making. This should be the reason why TATA would up the Vistara operations. Plus, Singapore Airlines, I think they have taken up some shares in Air India as they wound up the Vistara operations
The reason is vistara was a small airline compared to Air India .vistara travels mostly domestically and international few sectors only . Like LHR, and middle East, southeast Asia. Air India has wide range they travel America, Australia , Hong Kong ,Singapore , European ,middle East, south Korea ,Japan etc .Another reason is history Air India has a history Tata was the founder of Air India and no father will abandon the name of their first child .Third reason was they were not the solo owner of vistara. It was a join collaboration of Tata sai group.
Another interesting thing: Indigo's leased Turkish 777s fly a full-economy cabin housing 531 seats. I've heard from people that flew in those flights that it's quite a strain to serve those many passengers for the BOM-IST route
I'm sure they will be learning from the experience.
The greatest operational cost is fuel, and India is getting highly discounted oil from Russia. Most of the world has an embargo on Russian oil because of the Ukraine invasion.
Btw you are also getting cheaper oil because of India… think over it. Don’t just follow dumb news.
And because India gets oil from Russia, Indian demand is not affecting the prices of oil you purchase. Be grateful
@ you are lesser mortal. Don’t put too much pressure on your head.
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Very well covered on all aspects of Indian aviation. One Important thing of the growth in Indian aviation is more and more Indians now travel within India and around world for different reasons. Also weak rail network and road network makes airways fastest way to travel within cities in India.
AIRBUS building their factory with partnership of TATA to build C295 aircraft but i am sure boeing wont put their plant in india because of their employe strike their employees striking for everything
They strike because they were treated poorly by the company, not for "everything".
Loved the video. Very very well researched, as always. Thank you so much!
2:55 wrong map, update it
Even Indian government is starting to use this map now. Tired of telling everyone to update it. Our bureaucracy is spineless
Being an Indian and a Frequent Flyer, I want to Congratulate you on such an indepth analysis of India's Aviation Sector. Eye Opener.
Who's going to maintain all these planes? I hope they don't cut any corners in this aspect.
India is known for being a “techy” & country so I doubt they’d have a lack of the right manpower
They are adding a lot of MRO capacity, too.
I’m super excited about how Air India will evolve. At the moment, it doesn’t look great and it’s still sorting out legacy issues and this is likely to take at least another 3-5 years. But the confidence in the Tata Group reinforces my belief that quality is going to be prioritised. Indigo’s a brilliant and very well-run low cost carrier and blows competition - domestic or international - out of contention.
Delhi, Mumbai, and the new airport at NOIDA likely to become major regional hubs (the first two already are). We don’t have endless pools of resources like Qatar and the UAE nor the geographical advantage of Istanbul but we have a massive number of flyers and more traffic increasingly heading to regional destinations for tourism and business. So it’s going to be a less showy but hopefully as efficient in terms of infrastructure which supports the new orders being made by Air India and IndiGo.
INDIA going bonkers!
It's a huge market, with plenty of growth potential, for sure
I think you missed out something. Jet was largest airline in india with very good record, it seized operations in 2019 because its promoters were embezzling money from the business.
Also, Air India was started by TATA then nationalized by Indian government then Tata bought it back a couple of years earlier. Now ehat they want is to make it as good as it was before nationalization. They are just renurturing their baby.
@MentourNow it's ironic you not mentioning Indian President bid to bring two Embraer assembly lines to India, on for the C-390 Milenium, which India is interested in ordering quite big number for this type of military plane, and another fed or the E-190 E2. A letter of understanding was agreed by both countries and Embraer to try to make it happen, if China don't get in way.
Thank you for your presentation on the Indian aviation sector.
Funny to see that despite really bad air quality in most indian cities, more and more planes and airports are being expanded.
Prepare your kids to keep coughing and deal with respiratory diseases most of their lives 😊
Which city? Huh I live in the capital of my state and the AQI always stays Good/Satisfactory.
@@She-Jinping exceptions dont make the rule. the aqi is over 200 in most places, espeically north.
@@SmitePlayz1 and what does that has to do with aviation noob? Most Air breathing Jet Engines are extremely efficient and fly in the stratosphere so they're not polluting the air you breathe.
Bad air quality in like a few major cities.
Well researched. Appreciate it!
India is an awakening GIANT - its looks to be the new land of opportunity. Great Report. 🔥🚀👍😊
Thank you! It's a huge market, for sure.
It's not healthy when people start believing their own hype.😕
Just like China 20 years ago. But look what happens in China right now, they are in huge economic trouble and will have a hard time recovering. India still could go the same way someday.
9:28 I really appreciate that visual comparison in country size.
My Air India flight was cancelled after incoming aircraft had such a hard landing at Vizakhapatnam it wasn’t allowed to fly again , so perhaps their attrition rate is a bit higher.
Tatas are one of the most trusted brands and most philanthropic in India. If there is anyone who can change air India then it’s them.
1.000 planes for India is 1 plane for 1.4 Million citizens, not really much
True, but remember that like 30% of India is living under the poverty line.
It is rapidly reducing @@elestromusicgamesfun1101
@@elestromusicgamesfun1101 still 1 Million per plane
@@elestromusicgamesfun1101 Your data is little more than outdated, that was a figure from the 80s. Current estimates are somewhere around (or below) 10 percent.
@@mumar100Ur maths is as fcked up as ur logic, there's this variable called time.
I could say that humans drink 40,000 litres of water in their lifetime, so does that mean there will be drought tomorrow ?
Think about it.