This is such a beautiful case man. Im into itx cases now but this case reminds me of the first time i entered the pc master race in 2020. I had an i3-6100 and a gtx 750ti
Just a note, for x3d variant you really don't want more than 6400mhz ram speed because of it's architecture. in fact a 7000 mhz or 8000mhz may perform slower than the a 6000mhz or 6400mhz
He is GPU limited, it doesnt matter. Ram speed is irrelevant in a gpu limited scenario, not to mention X3d Cache makes Ram speed even less relevant. Tweaking ur ram speed and latency is to speed up CPU performance, but right now he is completely bottlenecked by his GPU. Having more CPU speed will not give you more fps in this case, because 9800x3d is just too overpowered for 7900xtx.
@@sc9433 there is no such thing as too much power for games like factorio. You take every bit of performance as you can get so you can make the base larger. A big factorio base will bring 9800x3d to its knees. Same with sim titles. A 9800x3d cant handle le man sized grids.
I guess if you let it run full bore and overclocked. For me it's closer to 300w-325w at most undervolted and limiting to my max refresh rate. (Although it is also a different brand XTX, Powercolor)
Yesterday my local Microcenter (Boston) got a drop of like 75 of those 9800x3ds. Couldn't help myself - decided to brave the labyrinth of rush hour Cambridge MA back-streets and buy one in-store. Now just waiting for an AM5 board from amazon. Also, good call on the video card - nVidia Linux drivers are a total mess right now.
Good question, @@jvillaro. It was availability - I have a very specific set of constraints. 1) My case is mATX, and fits very nicely on my desk, with a really nice bottom-up fan setup that does a great job on the GPU (much like the build on this video, actually). 2) usb4 ports (I use an external usb4 gen4 nvme enclosure so I can share storage between my dekstop and my laptop). 3) Wired my house for 10gbit network, and make a lot of use of my NAS, so need at least 1 expansion slot for the pcie ethernet card. The only mATX board that meets all those needs is discontinued (rog crosshair gene). So my MacGyver approach is an x670 or x870 ITX board, and hacking in an extra pcie 4.0 x4 slot via m.2->oculink so I can pop in my 10gbit ethernet card. This works because the itx board has 2 m.2 slots, and I only need one for storage. Hoping the single case screw for the ethernet card is enough to securely hold both the network card in place, attached to the oculink host board.
@@BaronCADayo, pcpartspicker me a build, pure rookie trying to get into PC gaming, think games like Witcher 3, Ghost Of Tsushima, and Fallout 3.. but open to try new games ya recommend too, Total War Shogun? Budget= $1000 and I have all the peripherals including 4K ultra wide monitors. Let me know!! oNe
Built my 7600X/7900XT machine just so I could drop in a nice newer gen part like this later. Depending on how net gen goes for AMD this might be my upgrade when a sale comes along! Gotta love AMD for this reason!
If you have a 7800x3d, relax you're still pimp AF too. It is kinda funny listening to you narrate and the screams in the background. I have to say it made me chuckle.
That beast alone would be a breeze for 1440p Linux gaming as well as an overkill emulation machine. I would love to see how well Xenia, Xemu & shadPS4 could run on it. RPCS3, the already dead Ryujinx & Yuzu definitely no problem.
I have a 7800x3d and 7800xt which suits my needs for now. I like the fact this 9800x3d gives you better cpu performance yet uses less power; they put the V Cache on top rather than underneath the cpu chip die. So I think it is basically like a 7800x3d but with that Vcache on top rather than underneath. I just have a cheap ASUS B650 plus wifi motherboard and you just have to update the bios firmware to use this new cpu; but kind of scared to do it in case the power went out, lol. That is a nice looking motherboard, heard good things about ASRock but hard to find; the ASUS one I have works fine.
Tbh it’s harder to corrupt the bios than people may think, I wouldn’t be afraid to update it if I were you. Have done it multiple times and have had it fail a few times but never have had it brick the motherboard
@@jaybee-f9x Ya, well if I get that new cpu, I will have to do it, just don't want to brick the motherboard. But if there was a power failure while you use the usb to firmware update it would brick it if in the middle; but the chances are slim. I would feel safer if I had a UPS but then they cost money too.
ETA Prime you should warn people not to buy from scalpers because they bought up all of the 9800x3ds and are reselling for almost $700. Yeah people can buy what they want but that just supports scalping and its not really right. If they were selling them for more of a reasonable price it'd be different.
Cool. Thanks for the tests. My AM5 stuff is on its way to me. I'm personally waiting for the Radeon 8000 stuff in a few months, but hoping whatever the best they put out will just match this card at lower power with some new features. But til then I'll be on my 3060 ti :P
Hi! Awesome video! Would be great to show GPU hot spot and memory temperature as well in the overlays! Also when you play Forza at 4K ultra settings did you use any fsr?
the only prob I got so far with this cpu is price, and once again main prob is scalpers... tbh I would likely spend 400-430 eur for this cpu but 550+ ship eur for an 8 core? in 2k24? nahhh ok performance but you also have to look at value at a certain...
Great build ETA. Thank for a review. I have similar, just with 7950x instead. Is there a reason you were keep changing the resolutions (going from 1140p to 5K back to 144op then to 1400p? It is hard to follow where the performance could be. People tend to stick to resolution and change the settings more often than to change resolution but keep settings.
I enjoyed the review. One question I had if you have time to answer is I’m about to buy a 4080 Super PC so wondered what cpu you would put with that? It’s either Ryzen 7 9800x3D or a Ryzen 9 7950x3D bit would appreciate your opinion. I look forward to the next video
was trying to get that nova motherboard for awhile but its always out of stock so ended up getting msi x870 tomahawk with 64gb 6000 cl30 memory (need it for msfs 2024) and 9800x3d just waiting on 5090 release while selling 4090 on ebay.
Great build, I’ve got the same specs but 64gb 6200mhz. I’ve been contemplating switching to Linux but I’m concerned about game compatibility, and my lack of experience with linux overall.
My Sapphire NITRO+ RX 7900 XTX(oced GPUBoost@3200MHz & VRAM@2750MHz) pull up to ~520 Watts at times, so 460 Watts for an ASRock RX 7900 XTX which still has a factory overclock, that doesn't really surprise me😅
want to buy the same set up but white - i already buy the case : antec flux pro white but i want to wait january to see the performance of 8800 xt and at that time chose beetween 8800xt and 7900xtx
Biggest issue is the RT performance IMO. AMD has weaker RT to start with and then the Linux drivers just aren’t great for RT bringing it another level down, sadly.
Nice, I did my full AMD build back in may with a 7800X3D and 7900XTX because I like to run Linux on my builds (I'm on Arch btw), in don't need the upgrade right now tho, I'm happy with my setup.
What is the most RAM that a AAA game can make use of for ultra 4K settings? I am about ready to upgrade my gaming PC and the motherboard and RAM is my main upgrade at present I use 32GB.
Hardware Unboxed has a great video on exactly that. I think the most intensive game he tested was Hogwarts Legacy. All of them were comfortable with 32GB. Only one I could think of where you'd use more is maybe flight simulator?
Hey ETA Prime .. dude I'm hoping you can help.. or anyone lol.. looking for a gpu upgrade .. I have an i5 9th set up.. was thinking of a 3060 ti.. any recommendations
Dang that GPU usage in Cyberpunk is so bad that a 9800x3d cannot keep up with 7900xtx, the game is great but its so unoptimized and even less performance than I had before.
Anyone installing their CPU, make sure it's seated well before locking it down. Others have already burned up their 9800X3D because for some reason it wasn't properly centered before locking it down.
I'm a console person just now dipping into pc gaming. I don't understand how a top shelf cpu and a high end gaming card are just 1440p performance. It's all very confusing to me.
Lol one of the bottom fans is mounted wrong. Facepalm. Also rx6800 drives 5120x1440 just fine at 250W, you don't need this card unless you want to have 240hz on the G9 57" because of dp 2.1, will never reach that in game though.
Since Starfield was released, it still isn't well optimized. This game is just big disappointment and not only in story telling. PC looks great. I would build something like that if I would be interested in having some big tower like this on my table:)
Computer designs are so fucking boring now. I'll take a beige box with some contours over the same all-black perfectly rectangular prisms over and over again.
Anyone have a old extra pc that can game in 1080p willing to sell to me for cheap. I’m a drone working a job that pays little and haven’t been able to game in years because I’ve barely been able to make ends meet. Anyway let me know if anyone can help
This is so tempting this is the set up I want to build , but my 5600x3d 6900xt is doing the job on the games I play.
Do it bro.
Don't spend money unnecessary, your build is good enough for years to come.
Honestly, I would wait.
Especially if your CPU is not limiting you.
I am currently running 5800x3d and 6900xt. My 7900xtx will arrive tomorrow. I'll leave it alone for a few years.
@@javiermartinez8809 I have a 7500F with a 6800. 1440p gaming just fine.
Thanks!
This is such a beautiful case man. Im into itx cases now but this case reminds me of the first time i entered the pc master race in 2020. I had an i3-6100 and a gtx 750ti
Finally something worth seeing...same processer I just got with my Rx 6900xt
Just a note, for x3d variant you really don't want more than 6400mhz ram speed because of it's architecture. in fact a 7000 mhz or 8000mhz may perform slower than the a 6000mhz or 6400mhz
He is GPU limited, it doesnt matter. Ram speed is irrelevant in a gpu limited scenario, not to mention X3d Cache makes Ram speed even less relevant.
Tweaking ur ram speed and latency is to speed up CPU performance, but right now he is completely bottlenecked by his GPU.
Having more CPU speed will not give you more fps in this case, because 9800x3d is just too overpowered for 7900xtx.
@@sc9433depends on the game. Sim games like factorio or ACC might suffer.
@@askeladden450 9800x3d blows thru everything on the market right now. It doesnt matter.
@@sc9433 there is no such thing as too much power for games like factorio. You take every bit of performance as you can get so you can make the base larger. A big factorio base will bring 9800x3d to its knees. Same with sim titles. A 9800x3d cant handle le man sized grids.
@@sc9433 arma 3 wants a word
you have been putting out so many videos lately. great job. thanks for the content.
ASRock 870E Nova is out of stock so many places. I "settled" for the 870E Taichi. Don't think I'll be disappointed. ;)
im rocking the 9800x3d and the 7900 xtx with 32gb ram and it is great
Man, if I took a shot for everytime you said nicely, I'd be drunk three minutes in, hahahaha.
Nice build though!
I want to see that beast in Linux.. i have a 7900x cpu with 6800xt in linux for gaming and i play all games in 1440p without any problem
Rocking CachyOS on my 5800x3D and 7900XTX. All watercooled… I will consider a 9950X3D later.
@@gymnastchannel7372 Seems like CachyOS is the best...
What linux distro do you use for gaming? Because i wanted to build one with linux too
@@3izz99 i use Gentoo but there's other's distros for gaming don't recall the name
@@3izz99 Look for : CachyOS - is an arch base distro made for gaming. CachyOS has the best kernel for gaming ever made.
8:15 GPU Power: 460W - winter is coming boys
😲
Holy crap. I thought when my 7900XT hit 360-ish watts, that was high. 😮
@@godwhomismike it's xtx here
I guess if you let it run full bore and overclocked. For me it's closer to 300w-325w at most undervolted and limiting to my max refresh rate. (Although it is also a different brand XTX, Powercolor)
@@VelcroSnake93 yeah, if you can sacrifice 5% performance and undervolt it, the efficiency is quite okay
Yesterday my local Microcenter (Boston) got a drop of like 75 of those 9800x3ds. Couldn't help myself - decided to brave the labyrinth of rush hour Cambridge MA back-streets and buy one in-store. Now just waiting for an AM5 board from amazon. Also, good call on the video card - nVidia Linux drivers are a total mess right now.
Just curious, why didn't you buy the MB in the same store? Availability or price?
Good question, @@jvillaro. It was availability - I have a very specific set of constraints. 1) My case is mATX, and fits very nicely on my desk, with a really nice bottom-up fan setup that does a great job on the GPU (much like the build on this video, actually). 2) usb4 ports (I use an external usb4 gen4 nvme enclosure so I can share storage between my dekstop and my laptop). 3) Wired my house for 10gbit network, and make a lot of use of my NAS, so need at least 1 expansion slot for the pcie ethernet card. The only mATX board that meets all those needs is discontinued (rog crosshair gene). So my MacGyver approach is an x670 or x870 ITX board, and hacking in an extra pcie 4.0 x4 slot via m.2->oculink so I can pop in my 10gbit ethernet card. This works because the itx board has 2 m.2 slots, and I only need one for storage. Hoping the single case screw for the ethernet card is enough to securely hold both the network card in place, attached to the oculink host board.
@@BaronCADayo, pcpartspicker me a build, pure rookie trying to get into PC gaming, think games like Witcher 3, Ghost Of Tsushima, and Fallout 3.. but open to try new games ya recommend too, Total War Shogun? Budget= $1000 and I have all the peripherals including 4K ultra wide monitors. Let me know!!
oNe
Built my 7600X/7900XT machine just so I could drop in a nice newer gen part like this later. Depending on how net gen goes for AMD this might be my upgrade when a sale comes along! Gotta love AMD for this reason!
If you have a 7800x3d, relax you're still pimp AF too. It is kinda funny listening to you narrate and the screams in the background. I have to say it made me chuckle.
Running Kubuntu 25.04 daily with newer mesa/kernel and wayland session would rock on that setup!
I just bought this as my first PC. I don’t really want to upgrade for awhile because I spent quite a bit of money on it.
@@BWCAPPS how has it been running?
That beast alone would be a breeze for 1440p Linux gaming as well as an overkill emulation machine. I would love to see how well Xenia, Xemu & shadPS4 could run on it. RPCS3, the already dead Ryujinx & Yuzu definitely no problem.
Had to laugh at the Doom Eternal numbers, you need a 500 MHz monitor for that.
I have a 7800x3d and 7800xt which suits my needs for now. I like the fact this 9800x3d gives you better cpu performance yet uses less power; they put the V Cache on top rather than underneath the cpu chip die. So I think it is basically like a 7800x3d but with that Vcache on top rather than underneath. I just have a cheap ASUS B650 plus wifi motherboard and you just have to update the bios firmware to use this new cpu; but kind of scared to do it in case the power went out, lol. That is a nice looking motherboard, heard good things about ASRock but hard to find; the ASUS one I have works fine.
Tbh it’s harder to corrupt the bios than people may think, I wouldn’t be afraid to update it if I were you. Have done it multiple times and have had it fail a few times but never have had it brick the motherboard
@@jaybee-f9x Ya, well if I get that new cpu, I will have to do it, just don't want to brick the motherboard. But if there was a power failure while you use the usb to firmware update it would brick it if in the middle; but the chances are slim. I would feel safer if I had a UPS but then they cost money too.
the 7800x3d has vcache on top and the 9800x3d has it below, no?
Cool build. NIce results. :)
I just built this exact same pc OMG
who cares?
I want this build so badly, what are you playing on it?
@@honza2755 Hogwarts Legacy, Predecessor, Throne and Liberty and Red Dead Redemption 2 it's an amazing PC 🙂
ETA Prime you should warn people not to buy from scalpers because they bought up all of the 9800x3ds and are reselling for almost $700. Yeah people can buy what they want but that just supports scalping and its not really right. If they were selling them for more of a reasonable price it'd be different.
just restocked on amazon
I have two Gamdius cases for my two Ryzen 5 5600 systems. They're awesome cars.
Cool. Thanks for the tests. My AM5 stuff is on its way to me. I'm personally waiting for the Radeon 8000 stuff in a few months, but hoping whatever the best they put out will just match this card at lower power with some new features.
But til then I'll be on my 3060 ti :P
nice case, but with that card I'd want a GPU holder
That XTX power draw tho...
Gotta try this godly setup in LINUX👑👑👑👑👑
Can't wait for the Linux supplemental video, thanks.
Hi! Awesome video! Would be great to show GPU hot spot and memory temperature as well in the overlays! Also when you play Forza at 4K ultra settings did you use any fsr?
Doing research into the rog ally non extreme and low end steam deck because have to pick a Xmas gift before Thanksgiving
the only prob I got so far with this cpu is price, and once again main prob is scalpers... tbh I would likely spend 400-430 eur for this cpu but 550+ ship eur for an 8 core? in 2k24? nahhh ok performance but you also have to look at value at a certain...
You installed one of the bottom intakes as exhaust.
Great build ETA. Thank for a review.
I have similar, just with 7950x instead.
Is there a reason you were keep changing the resolutions (going from 1140p to 5K back to 144op then to 1400p?
It is hard to follow where the performance could be.
People tend to stick to resolution and change the settings more often than to change resolution but keep settings.
The lack of planning with the motherboard and the USB plug bothers me a lot.
I’m making a similar build but in a mini itx s300 case and with the reference 7900 XTX.
Back to the SFF builds.
My dream which i can't achieve same as my other dreams 😅
I enjoyed the review. One question I had if you have time to answer is I’m about to buy a 4080 Super PC so wondered what cpu you would put with that? It’s either Ryzen 7 9800x3D or a Ryzen 9 7950x3D bit would appreciate your opinion. I look forward to the next video
can you please test the igpu on the 9800X3d???
Please add stalker 2 to ur upcoming benchmarks.
What was the max power draw?
I think you should put a 1000W PSU in this.
Hey Eta Prime, can you make a compact build for the living room (SFF) with a 7945HX and the 7900 XTX ? Thank you!
I have a 5900x and 7900xtx and i really wanna know if its worth the upgrade to go to ddr5 and to 9000x3d chip. But cant even find comparisons for it.
The link to the case doesn't work... It's not the one in the video... Can you fix it???
was trying to get that nova motherboard for awhile but its always out of stock so ended up getting msi x870 tomahawk with 64gb 6000 cl30 memory (need it for msfs 2024) and 9800x3d just waiting on 5090 release while selling 4090 on ebay.
hey man, you should try building a pc with fractal ridge
I just matched a 9800x3d with a 4070 ti super. I play at 3440x1440 21:9. I love the results so far. 32gb ram atm
Great build, I’ve got the same specs but 64gb 6200mhz. I’ve been contemplating switching to Linux but I’m concerned about game compatibility, and my lack of experience with linux overall.
Bazzite will fly on that thing.
Does the 7900xtx really pull 460w+? I had no idea it was as power hungry as a 4090
My Sapphire NITRO+ RX 7900 XTX(oced GPUBoost@3200MHz & VRAM@2750MHz) pull up to ~520 Watts at times, so 460 Watts for an ASRock RX 7900 XTX which still has a factory overclock, that doesn't really surprise me😅
I should really check… mine is OCd to 3000MHz core and 2800 mem, -70mV on the core.
I just bought a forty year old zipstick for my xmas.
Amazing video, I hope you test PS3 emulation on this beast!
want to buy the same set up but white - i already buy the case : antec flux pro white but i want to wait january to see the performance of 8800 xt and at that time chose beetween 8800xt and 7900xtx
Can you do same review but in 4K pls
Awesome 👍
you can easily undervolt both the cpu and GPU using mobo for CPU and corectrl for GPU
Doom Eternal performance is ridiculous
i got 360mm water cooling and my idles 42-44c, so seems it is normal... thought it was to high
Was Sam enabled?
This is the way.
would be nice if can have all 3 temps at once.
this is why amd need optimize the drivers, is good drivers but still need optimize for better performance.
Biggest issue is the RT performance IMO. AMD has weaker RT to start with and then the Linux drivers just aren’t great for RT bringing it another level down, sadly.
M1 tablet cpu better in multitasking cinebench???
Why is the CPU usage so high in some games?
Nice, I did my full AMD build back in may with a 7800X3D and 7900XTX because I like to run Linux on my builds (I'm on Arch btw), in don't need the upgrade right now tho, I'm happy with my setup.
Whoa, I really like that case. 0w0
What is the most RAM that a AAA game can make use of for ultra 4K settings? I am about ready to upgrade my gaming PC and the motherboard and RAM is my main upgrade at present I use 32GB.
Hardware Unboxed has a great video on exactly that. I think the most intensive game he tested was Hogwarts Legacy. All of them were comfortable with 32GB. Only one I could think of where you'd use more is maybe flight simulator?
I want to see the steam deck vs rog ally using windows especially for emulation
Hey ETA Prime .. dude I'm hoping you can help.. or anyone lol.. looking for a gpu upgrade .. I have an i5 9th set up.. was thinking of a 3060 ti.. any recommendations
But can it run Monster Hunter Wilds at 1440p 60 FPS ultra no framegen with a rock solid 16.6ms frametime...?
Dang that GPU usage in Cyberpunk is so bad that a 9800x3d cannot keep up with 7900xtx, the game is great but its so unoptimized and even less performance than I had before.
Anyone installing their CPU, make sure it's seated well before locking it down. Others have already burned up their 9800X3D because for some reason it wasn't properly centered before locking it down.
This mobo is more lit than the z890
Hey can you build a PC that has Asus ROG parts and aslo great for 1440p gaming
I'm a console person just now dipping into pc gaming. I don't understand how a top shelf cpu and a high end gaming card are just 1440p performance. It's all very confusing to me.
It's not, benchmarks are run at lower resolutions to stress test. These can easily handle 4k.
Well consoles don't play native 4k either. Especially the shitbox.
No emulation shown?
Go CachyOS !!!
Hey can you build a PC that has Asus ROG parts and powerful for 1440p gaming
Damn ultra raytracing 1440p Cyberpunk im pulling 150fps lmaooo
PUT BAZZITE ON IT!!!!!!!
Lol one of the bottom fans is mounted wrong. Facepalm.
Also rx6800 drives 5120x1440 just fine at 250W, you don't need this card unless you want to have 240hz on the G9 57" because of dp 2.1, will never reach that in game though.
To run at 1440p with the 7900XTX i believe the 7700 would active the same results, CPUs are way more powerful them current GPUs can handle
the gpu need support dude
256 GB. now, so you can make it a server. :D
that motherboard has been out of stock for a month now and link that u porvide isn't even the same motherboard
This build screams Bazzite OS , but the Urcdkey sponsorship ruined it 💔
Would love to see how Bazzite Linux runs on this as well, same game benchmarks just for fun!
No more emulation builds???
17c?? where do you live?
What's we?? Honestly man. Stop this fucking click bait.
Waiting for the 9950X3D .
1:24
"But it was out of my budget"...
Even with a tax write off this guy can't afford the products that he pushes...
Good luck to everyone else...
@@LimitedState he probably said that cause of the scalpers
AMD for Linux please
It would be great if you can also include Space Engineers and Icarus in your game testings.
460 watts! Hard pass
Day 26 of asking for a gamesir g8 galileo
Since Starfield was released, it still isn't well optimized. This game is just big disappointment and not only in story telling.
PC looks great. I would build something like that if I would be interested in having some big tower like this on my table:)
Computer designs are so fucking boring now. I'll take a beige box with some contours over the same all-black perfectly rectangular prisms over and over again.
Anyone have a old extra pc that can game in 1080p willing to sell to me for cheap. I’m a drone working a job that pays little and haven’t been able to game in years because I’ve barely been able to make ends meet. Anyway let me know if anyone can help
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