had Joe in my powerlifting club when he came in in italy for a meet, he said he had to do a "light" bench session, he proceded to do 270kgs for 2 dubles on a high board, the speed was insane. Very nice and friendly guy too.
@@Mauidemigod249 even without that juice he would still be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay stronger then you would imagine and what you could ever dream of... but you are a nobody so you have to shit on succesfull people
Awesome video! As an aspiring thrower myself, I love seeing this stuff. Regarding the bench press, for shot and discus throwers its employed heavily. At the Olympic/world level, most throwers will be at or near 200kg in that, with shot putters generally a bit stronger. Regarding squats, it seems like a lot of throwers don't necessarily work up to 1RMs on them but hit heavy rep maxes instead, as demonstrated by Joe Kovacs here. Simon Pettersson, Olympic silver in the discus, said his best squat was 10x200kg, and I once had the chance to train with a Commonwealth Games discus thrower, who also said that his best squat was 5x250kg, i.e not referencing a 1RM but something else. Regarding other athletes you could cover, sorry to throw (pun intended) another thrower into the mix but they're just really into lifting big weights. Gerd Kanter has the 3rd best discus throw of all time, world and Olympic champion, and he's got some good material: th-cam.com/video/CWDvruRxcZk/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/-Yl617Z6Ap0/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/aR4G3Kv7iUs/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/w0B61-xc6oE/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/Sa5Rq5SMGhg/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/7wp0KTDYOlQ/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/0iNgwhM4VH4/w-d-xo.html
Cool story... I have Joe Kovacs used Rogue platform (the one in the 320x10 video). Bought it off him a few years back. Heavy ass weight was pulled and squatted on it.
Have a look at Werner Günthör lads, plenty of training vids of this huge 135kg powerhouse jumping around like he weighs 50kg, can't remember if there's any big lifts on video but he has hit some insane numbers like 250kg power clean and 240kg BTN push press apparently. If I had to choose for you two, Eoin would be Hammer/Shot and Daire would be Disc/Hammer :)
Finally, Darren firing back. That’s your weight isn’t it? !? You always get him now he got you. He never ever picks on you, but you always give him the business.
As far as old stories go with throwers strength the numero uno is Udo Beyer. It was claimed Udo could squat 900lbs and press 600lbs behind the neck. While there's no video of his lifts or what exactly that press or squat looked like there was no doubt in this strength. He didn't have very good technique as a glide shot putter compared to his competitors and fellow country men but he was so strong he set the world record twice and was unbeatable for years. The East German's were insanely impressive with their strength and dbol use and their system was incredible back in the day.
A little late to the party here, but Coach Ashley Kovacs said that he did not have a working set below 250kg on the bench last year. All year, through all the volume phases (we know from his squats they will do 10s), he was above 250kg. Unreal.
would love to see you guys react so some footage from Koji Murofushi's training. Guy is my probably my greatest role model as hammer thrower but his weight room training is... peculiar to put it plainly lol. Y'all would get a kick out of it.
Joe isn't very tall (officially 1.81m (5-11¼)), so he will always look heavier. But, to your point, Joe was 315 (143kg) at Olympic weigh-ins, so, I would agree on 150kg (330), not on 155kg (340).
I know he's hardly an obscure athlete but you boys should do a deep dive on John Haack. He's already a goat in powerlifting and his form on every lift is immaculate.
someone tell me please: why do track athletes [and other non-strength specific sports] do behind the neck jerks rather than traditional? is it the relative technicality compared to the other?
I think it was on the throws university channel, but I heard a little while back that Joe's lightest working set of bench last year was 250k...bonkers...
please do a video on the speed and crispiness of APTI AUKHADOV. his snatches are plenty and easy to find on the web, as well as the details on how it would be likely to find another copy of him. do you think it would ever occur? Do you believe he was right in the ways of his technique, could his technique possibly be improved or was it simply GOD-TIER...
Some basic standards to understand shot put distances. 19-20 meters: you're playing with the big boys now Over 21 meters: you're REALLY playing with the big boys Over 22 meters: You are the biggest of boys Over 23 meters: you are the avatar of the philosophical concept of "playing with the big boys"
Little side note: Anatoly Bondarchuck, gold medalist, coach of the Hammer WR holder, most successful coach in general in track and field (besides Bob Kersee maybe)and incredible scientist states this: 200kg half squat for elite throwers is enough. There’s a wrong prioritization going in a lot of programs. They should train way more specific. Something very unique about throwing, is that the fatigue is quite low and athletes could throw 2 times a day without any issues…. An implement with a given weight has a max velocity and distance it can reach out of a throwing motion. A 350kg Squat for example is completely unnecessary when transfer to maximally required speed and power ends at a 200kg Squat. Imagine throwing a piece of paper, no matter how strong you are, you won't be able tho throw it far, because its mass and therefore its velocity potential is extremely low, therefore the optimal strength needed is low as well. The best throwers are the tallest, fastest, have crazy rate of force development and most importantly are those who mastered the skill and technique of the throw. The objective max strength standards are not inhumane or unreachable.
Ryan crouser the world record shot putter has some plyos on his Instagram and it's insane to see someone so big move so well
2 reps 240 kg in front squat
had Joe in my powerlifting club when he came in in italy for a meet, he said he had to do a "light" bench session, he proceded to do 270kgs for 2 dubles on a high board, the speed was insane.
Very nice and friendly guy too.
320kg for a set of 10!? Had to rewind that a couple of times to make sure I heard that right, Kovacs is a monster!!
Yeah Monster of 💉
@@Mauidemigod249 cope
@@Mauidemigod249 even without that juice he would still be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay stronger then you would imagine and what you could ever dream of... but you are a nobody so you have to shit on succesfull people
Awesome video! As an aspiring thrower myself, I love seeing this stuff.
Regarding the bench press, for shot and discus throwers its employed heavily. At the Olympic/world level, most throwers will be at or near 200kg in that, with shot putters generally a bit stronger.
Regarding squats, it seems like a lot of throwers don't necessarily work up to 1RMs on them but hit heavy rep maxes instead, as demonstrated by Joe Kovacs here. Simon Pettersson, Olympic silver in the discus, said his best squat was 10x200kg, and I once had the chance to train with a Commonwealth Games discus thrower, who also said that his best squat was 5x250kg, i.e not referencing a 1RM but something else.
Regarding other athletes you could cover, sorry to throw (pun intended) another thrower into the mix but they're just really into lifting big weights. Gerd Kanter has the 3rd best discus throw of all time, world and Olympic champion, and he's got some good material:
th-cam.com/video/CWDvruRxcZk/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/-Yl617Z6Ap0/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/aR4G3Kv7iUs/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/w0B61-xc6oE/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/Sa5Rq5SMGhg/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/7wp0KTDYOlQ/w-d-xo.html
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Cool story... I have Joe Kovacs used Rogue platform (the one in the 320x10 video). Bought it off him a few years back. Heavy ass weight was pulled and squatted on it.
Have a look at Werner Günthör lads, plenty of training vids of this huge 135kg powerhouse jumping around like he weighs 50kg, can't remember if there's any big lifts on video but he has hit some insane numbers like 250kg power clean and 240kg BTN push press apparently.
If I had to choose for you two, Eoin would be Hammer/Shot and Daire would be Disc/Hammer :)
Well have to try some time
@@sikastrength let me know when you're over and we can smash out a session😂😂
Yessss. The Werner Günthör train keeps picking up steam.
Been waiting a long time for this one! Joe is truly one of the craziest athletes out there.
Love the new camera angles boys
I am hoping to hit 320 in the squat in a couple days, 320lbs for a single. I can't even imagine hitting 320kg for a 10.
What's your squat now. I am this close to 315 zercher.
@@faizalmohammed9874 Hey man, I hit 400 a few months back. Good luck on a 315 zercher!
It’s cool that you included Joe Kovacs next to Clearance.
Absolutely love it, third time's the charm indeed, keep it coming lads you're filling that throwing content with craic void for me💪
Kovacs has been great for the sport, I'll watch any content with him in it.
Finally, Darren firing back. That’s your weight isn’t it? !? You always get him now he got you. He never ever picks on you, but you always give him the business.
He's always mean to me off camera, especially on the podcast 😮💨
Yeah I agree, gurph is so mean to me
@@dfitz5384 don’t you have to go make a bad fish joke or something?
hate when mom and dad fight :(
I would give Udo Beyer, Geoff Capes, and Mike Stulce the nod here, but I admire Joe greatly!
Shot put is in peak era 💪💪💪
I hope seeing this in disc and javelin throwing too
As far as old stories go with throwers strength the numero uno is Udo Beyer. It was claimed Udo could squat 900lbs and press 600lbs behind the neck. While there's no video of his lifts or what exactly that press or squat looked like there was no doubt in this strength. He didn't have very good technique as a glide shot putter compared to his competitors and fellow country men but he was so strong he set the world record twice and was unbeatable for years.
The East German's were insanely impressive with their strength and dbol use and their system was incredible back in the day.
400kgx5 i heard
Cap
Kovacs says his btn jerk pb is 275kg
Would love to see one of these, or a lifter of the week, done on Zlatan Vanev.
Seconded, also Zlatev's 230kg C&J at 82.5 is almost casual. Unreal.
This video changes camera angle more than every other Sika Strength video combined
Hahaha you guys crack me up, keep up the great content
That extra camera angle 😙🤌🏻
A little late to the party here, but Coach Ashley Kovacs said that he did not have a working set below 250kg on the bench last year. All year, through all the volume phases (we know from his squats they will do 10s), he was above 250kg. Unreal.
3rd camera angle when
The off camera looks are gold
Alexander Karelin would be a good one to review.
Certainly a specimen 😁
would love to see you guys react so some footage from Koji Murofushi's training. Guy is my probably my greatest role model as hammer thrower but his weight room training is... peculiar to put it plainly lol. Y'all would get a kick out of it.
Joe certainly has a heavier bodyweight than 134kg. Joe is pushing 150-155kg in recent seasons.
Joe isn't very tall (officially 1.81m (5-11¼)), so he will always look heavier. But, to your point, Joe was 315 (143kg) at Olympic weigh-ins, so, I would agree on 150kg (330), not on 155kg (340).
Maybe do one on Jutta Leerdam the sprint ice skater! :)
Curt Jensen has a fair amount of videos and is ridiculously strong.
I know he's hardly an obscure athlete but you boys should do a deep dive on John Haack. He's already a goat in powerlifting and his form on every lift is immaculate.
Shaved face fitz looks 10 years younger from the new camera angle
Would love to see one of these videos for Armand Duplantis, the world record pole vaulter
great video
I mean have a look at Stefan Holm's ridiculous plyometrics, it's a classic. The hops of that man are a sight to behold
someone tell me please: why do track athletes [and other non-strength specific sports] do behind the neck jerks rather than traditional? is it the relative technicality compared to the other?
I would argue that a behind the neck jerk is more lower body dominant, it’s easier to transfer the power from your legs into the push.
Please add 8 or 9 more camera angles.
Absolute unit.
Rodchenkov talked about Youri Sedykh, world record holder in hammer throw (RIP last year)
0:49 love the chat from the Sika boys 😂
Dylan Armstrong Canadian shot putter, Power clean 240kg
I think it was on the throws university channel, but I heard a little while back that Joe's lightest working set of bench last year was 250k...bonkers...
Lmao the new camera is great
Is he related to Greg Kovacs late Canadian bodybuilder?
Would love to see Ryan Crouser featured
What a beast
please do a video on the speed and crispiness of APTI AUKHADOV.
his snatches are plenty and easy to find on the web, as well as the details on how it would be likely to find another copy of him.
do you think it would ever occur? Do you believe he was right in the ways of his technique, could his technique possibly be improved or was it simply GOD-TIER...
Just wanted to request gunthor before i heard you mention him.
Have you not done vetter the javelin thrower
Not an olympic athlete, but if you haven't heard yet of Andrey Smaev, check him out, the guy might have the best strength genetics ever...
Don't know much about him other than what I've seen from ATG videos but Viktor Getts seems like a pretty technical russian weightlifter to look at.
I believe they covered his clean technique in a previous video
I'd love to see Darlan Romani vs Joe Kovacs in the bench.
Some basic standards to understand shot put distances.
19-20 meters: you're playing with the big boys now
Over 21 meters: you're REALLY playing with the big boys
Over 22 meters: You are the biggest of boys
Over 23 meters: you are the avatar of the philosophical concept of "playing with the big boys"
Any t shirts left?
Bumped into an SC coach for England rugby in 2008 and he mentioned Andrew Sheridan squatting 400kgs. Didn't mention reps but who cares, 400kgs!
he could easily go be a world class olympic weightlifter on the side if he wanted to
Ryan Crouser has some lifting videos on his YT channel
Gotta vote yes for my countryman W!
I'd be interested to see Teddy Riner.
There's video of this guy benching 720 pounds for 2 raps. Not comp but 2 fast reps.
That guy, is so damn strong
And so damn juiced
throwers are monsters!!!
And juiced to the gills
Unit
Would definitely watch an anti-Anglo sika livestream
you should definetly check out Jacko Gill, he got youtube and Instagram. Youth world record holder and insane numbers and explosive power.
Nick Chubb the American Football player
Lads splashed out on another camera
James Harrison former NFL player
I’m quite sure Joes wife trained/studied under Louie Simmons.
I miss Sika's Witnessers
Little side note:
Anatoly Bondarchuck, gold medalist, coach of the Hammer WR holder, most successful coach in general in track and field (besides Bob Kersee maybe)and incredible scientist states this:
200kg half squat for elite throwers is enough.
There’s a wrong prioritization going in a lot of programs. They should train way more specific. Something very unique about throwing, is that the fatigue is quite low and athletes could throw 2 times a day without any issues….
An implement with a given weight has a max velocity and distance it can reach out of a throwing motion. A 350kg Squat for example is completely unnecessary when transfer to maximally required speed and power ends at a 200kg Squat.
Imagine throwing a piece of paper, no matter how strong you are, you won't be able tho throw it far, because its mass and therefore its velocity potential is extremely low, therefore the optimal strength needed is low as well.
The best throwers are the tallest, fastest, have crazy rate of force development and most importantly are those who mastered the skill and technique of the throw. The objective max strength standards are not inhumane or unreachable.
Soccer is football everywhere in the world outside Yankee doddle land
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How am I meant to move a heavy load fast? Surely if it's heavy/maximal to me, bar speed will slow?
Heavy doesn’t necessarily mean RPE 10 1RM. A lot of power work is in that 80-95% range with maximal bar velocity
Nick 'chubby Diamonds' Ponzio
Enjoy nothing more than watching these freaks of nature work out
Martins Licis
Martiiiiiiiiiins : )
lasha be like
UFC Fighter William Knight, stongest athlete in the UFC
Ditch the second camera
The Stifled Yawn
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