Another great video. I wish some group like J.D. Power or Consumer Reports would rate RVs based on Initial Quality like they do cars. Once that info became available I think the manufacturers would straighten out their quality control issues real quickly!
Yes, that would be a big help. They will most likely continue their current pattern until it is just not tolerated any longer, and consumers demand a better product.
This is an older thread. But still very relevant. I would suggest the break in period is more like 2 years. I'm convinced this is why Jayco provides their full 2 year warranty. By the time the 2 years was up on my new 2015 Greyhawk, which I absolutely loved and plan to buy again. Pretty much everything had been sorted. Also important to note is that by the 2 year mark I had learned how to pretty much service everything myself - simple chassis engine to maintain, easy to maintain generator, and all the associated coach section repairs - loose hinges, trim pieces loosening, caulking, etc. If you never plan to do this work yourself or feel incapable, a motorhome may not be a good idea.
Great video - thanks. I have a 1 year old Entegra Odyssey 26D and I can't say enough about how much I love this RV. We have had one or two issues - the tank heater coming partially un-glued from the gray tank - I just sprayed a little glue and reattached. A trim piece over the main slide didn't have enough staples and sagged in the middle - dealer fixed that for us in a few minutes. The other issue was a resonation / vibration over 67MPH - that Ford and Jayco both didn't want to fix - each said it was the other's responsibility. I removed a couple shims in the rear carrier bearing (on advise from the Jayco forum) and it's gone - no problem. I really like the Ford 7.3 - goes up every grade as fast as I want to. I did add in inverter since all 3 TV's are 110V and no inverter - I think Entegra makes the perfect rig - it's perfectly dialed in and has every feature I need in an RV so I have to agree with your brand choices.
Hi Devon. Every Entegra Class C owner that I have spoken with has loved their rig. So I'm glad that you feel the same way. And I'm glad that you got your repair issues handled too. I was also interested to hear your feedback on the 7.3 V-8 engine too. A lot of people are wondering how well it would compare with the older V-10 engines. But it sounds like you are happy with it. Thanks for sharing your experience with us!
Very good advice about hiring an RV inspector to check out a new RV! So many are poorly made these days. Brands - we have a 1991 Lazy Daze with a Chevy 454 engine and it is excellent. After all these years, no rattles or squeaks. All aluminum body panels, no slide outs... even on their new ones. Latest upgrade... just ordered a rear view camera, with its little color tv screen that I'll put on the dash after moving the radio. What's shocking about the LD... everything works. Year after year, with normal maintenance. Bought two new house batteries a year ago, will probably buy new tires next year... mine look great but are 7 years old now. And the odometer stopped at 62,000 miles... added another 5,000 since. Easy to fix, since it is basically a standard Chevy C30 truck with a people box on the back. Thanks for recommending Lazy Daze... a great small company!
Thanks for sharing your experience with a Lazy Days rig with us Jon. What you said matches the comments I have heard from other LD owners. They make a great product and a lot of full-timers love them. Keep up the good work on the maintenance for that rig and it may last forever! :-)
Great video. Own an Entegra Odyssey and so far we are happy with it but there are some QC concerns. Waiting for some parts for warranty. The 2 year warranty does help with them and Jayco. BTW- never leave your RV with dealer for warranty work. Wait for the parts and schedule an appointment.
Hi Joseph. Unfortunately, Covid continues to play havoc with supply chains and as it does, quality control issues are going to continue to suffer. Even among some of the better quality brands like Entegra. It's pretty common to see QC issues on almost everything being made now.
Another great video Duane. Thanks for mentioning the quality issues with new units. Personally I prefer used units with a history of maintenance and ownership. I know several folk that have purchased new units and every one had issues. Some major, some minor. Thanks again for your knowledge and your information. I appreciate it.
Glad you enjoyed the video BSF. If RVs had the same quality control that we have come to expect from new car manufacturers there wouldn't be much to complain about. But as you say, lots of new RV buyers are experiencing problems, sometimes serious ones, with their purchase. Thanks for sharing your thoughts about it!
Agreed that buying used might be better than new! Let the original buyer fix everything and take the depreciation. I’m also thinking about a used class-c rental from cruise America!
Hi Heather. I know that a lot of people can't understand why you would want to call in an RV inspector on a new RV. But it would not be necessary if the manufacturers and dealers were doing their job to make sure that new RVs are in the kind of shape that new RV buyers expect. Sadly, that's just not the case right now. But hopefully that will change. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Thank you. We are going to take at least a year for research before we even consider making a purchase. Videos like ths are an important part of our education. I've heard that many dealers will not allow an outside inspector to be part of the process -- in that case, I think the only sensible thing a buyer can say to a dealer then is "good bye".
You're in a great position right now Mary Jane. You have the time to do some really good research before you make your buying decision. Take your time and look at lots of RVs in the meantime. It will help you know better what will fit you best. And I agree that if a dealer denies an RV inspection, you should find a different dealer.
You are so right sir! we end up returning 3-4 times to the dealer to fix issue ... sometimes i will just fix it myself because we dont want wait anymore. From 5th wheel with minor issue to heavy issue class A . Sometimes its better to buy used Rv instead to avoid those headache. Ty!
Unfortunately, this kind of experience is becoming very common these days. I get a LOT of requests for RV inspections on brand new RVs now. And personally, yes I would rather buy used right now myself just because of these kind of issues.
Duane thank you so much for this information across the board! If I had a fat enough check book I'd go with a Newmar super C and now that Winnebago bought Newmar I've got to correct manufacturer! Just goofing around. Have a wonderful day! Thanks SAFE TRAVELS
I knew you were going to call me on the Newmar Super C Ron. :-) I thought about putting Newmar in the mix but they just don't have the presence in the Class C field that the other brands I mentioned in the video do. But as long as you brought the subject up, they really do make a great coach don't they?
Well, new RV problems are all over the map. It can include anything from roof problems to slide issues to safety violations and much more. It all depends on the skills and mindset of the workers that put the RV together. And RV inspectors do make a visual inspection of mechanical issues, but they are not mechanics so that is where it ends for us. But I always recommend getting a fluid analysis done on all the major engine and generator fluids to find out what is happening inside those components. And it wouldn't hurt to have a mechanic look over the chassis as well.
After the chassis, and the appliance components, what is left to consider for the manufacture quality? Structure (hopefully metal cage not wood), Roof (fiberglass or aluminum rather than rubber and it's derivatives), Sides (Azdel is the standard), Cabinetry and Paint (Automotive rather than glosscoat.) With that in mind, we would submit Sunseeker/Forester or BTCruiser as options.
It's not just the components that count. It's the way the whole RV is put together with attention to detail. And the procedures for doing that vary widely from one manufacturer to another. Some are more geared to high production at all costs. And others take a little more time to make sure that they turn out a better product.
This is such a great video. Is it as valid now as it was when you made this video? The processes manufacturers implemented when COVID hit definitely degraded the quality of some previously splendid brands. Then, adding in the fact that Thor seems to have hoovered up so many lovely manufacturers, it seems that has caused quality to be degraded. Regardless, I am in the market for a self contained Class C or a larger Class B. I am tired of staying on pavement. I want to park next to creek and not have to worry about bottoming out. I am 100% getting an inspector next time.
In general, it's still pretty accurate. The Covid pandemic affected all RV manufacturers negatively due to workforce shortages and major supply chain issues. But they have been working their way out of those problems. And now most of the better RV builders are pretty much back on track. Also, just because Thor owns a company does not necessarily mean that it has had a negative influence on the way that company builds RVs. That is just hearsay spread by some online influencers who don't really know what they are talking about.
I bought a new Forest River RV in 2018. It had issues with rust on the frame that year. I contacted the dealer but they said "sorry we can fit you in for 3 months and by then the warranty will have run out. Do you still want to book it in?" This year a wall started sagging. I talked directly to Forest River and they said they are going to bring it in and replace the axle and the frame. I'll believe it when I see it. I wish I knew then what I know now about not getting ripped off by RV dealers. You live and learn. Always get an independent inspection by an NRVIA certified inspector. Don't ever trust the dealer to have an inspection done.
So sorry to hear about all of your troubles with your Forest River RV. BTW, Forest River is not on my recommended list of towable RVs. There's just been too many stories like this lately. You are absolutely right that getting a certified RV inspector to go through the RV and get the major issues fixed before you take delivery is a very smart move. But honestly, there are so many issues coming out of the RV factories these days that sometimes even the inspectors can't catch them all if they are hidden. But you have your best chance to get an RV that you can depend on by buying from one of the better brands and then getting the certified RV inspector to find the problems. Even though your story is sad, I thank you for sharing your experience with us and hopefully others can learn from it. At least that way, something good can come of all your troubles.
@@RVInspectionAndCare Thanks, that's exactly why I shared. Because too many people have similar stories. Maybe RV dealers and companies will be more accountable if naive buyers stop buying crappy RVs. And we've all been naive once. I am glad Jayco has built an inspection facility to help ensure customer satisfaction with their rigs. I am going to move up to a gently used Class C in the spring. I like the Entegra Odyssey floor plan and reputation for quality, so I am leaning that way right now.
@@rpodadventure Entegra is a good manufacturer but they seem to be pretty scarce right now. So maybe you can find a good one on the slightly used market that fits your needs. I hope it works out well for you!
Your opinion means everything with your experience.what do you think of class c bigfoot with small garage and rear bedroom no slides or with slides?please sir send reply.it means alot to me and my family.... thank you
Actually Bigfoot made a very high quality RV back in the day. Unfortunately, they appear to be out of business now, but they are well known for the great rigs that they produced in the past. Just make sure that you have any rig that old inspected thoroughly to make sure that it does not have hidden problems.
in order for RV industry improve quality control, they need to be hit by competition from abroad. some Australian and european brands have great quality. the issue is that we, americans, love the biggest and the baddest while foreigners do smaller units
Thanks for the informative videos. I'm considering buying a Class C for part-time use. I have some physical limitations though (53 year old, female). What is your opinion on someone like me rv-ing? My physical limitations are strength related. I have to be careful to not exert myself too much. I'm fully mobile though. Some family members think that managing an rv will be too difficult for me... none of the family has experience with an rv though.
I would say that if you doctor is ok with your traveling in an RV, it should be fine. I know several disabled and near-disabled folks that travel in RVs just fine. But you really should follow the advice that your doctor gives you about your travel capabilities. If your doctor says you are able to be an RVer, you might try renting an RV for a few times to make sure you are comfortable with all that it involves before making the purchase though. I hope that helps.
Great video! Very informative .We are doing our homework on RVs. Not sure if we want Class C or an RV to haul. There are pluses and minuses to both so we just have to figure out which way to go. We will target an RV that is a few years old-seems they devalue right off the lot and so we figure just like a car-some of that devaluation have righted itself after a few years and kinks have also worked themselves out. One of the things that holds me back is the mattresses. I have a lot of back issues so RVs typically dont have the finest mattress quality-could be wrong when it comes to higher end. Are there any that you can purchase a regular mattress to put in? That really is what is holding me back (of all things).
Mattress size is a problem with many RVs. Here is a link to a company that many RVers say is a great resource for RV mattresses and they answer a lot of mattress questions too - www.mattressinsider.com/rv-mattress.html I hope that helps!
What about Bigfoot? I've been looking at them as well. Mahalo for sharing. I currently have a 2007 dynamax Isada 24 footer, love it. Just looking for something bigger. Maybe 30'. The full time bed is a must.
Bigfoot RVs have a fan base and they seem to be built with reasonable quality. But I haven't had much experience with them, so they didn't make my list. Thanks for sharing your opinion on your Dynamax though. They are great coaches.
We have a Bigfoot class C motorhome they where built in The US til 2008 they are a four season motorhome and very well built almost over built they still built there trailers and campers in Canada, the motorhome is rear just like a Lazydays.👍😉😉😁
Sad that the qc is so low. I bought a 9 year old class c but it still needed some upgrades. You didn’t mention Forest River this is my second one and I think they hold up well. I do keep mine stored inside in winter.
Hi Ford Racer. The list of the best quality Class C brands is subjective as I mentioned in the video. And just because a brand isn't on the list doesn't necessarily mean that you shouldn't buy it. But the brands I mentioned are the ones that tend to use the best quality materials for the cost of the RVs they make. As you pay more, the quality gets even better. But keeping your RV inside a lot of the time, you will help make almost any brand last much longer. So that's a very smart move. Thanks for watching and commenting!
This was very helpful, thank you. 2 questions - 1) forest river wasn’t mentioned. Are they bottom of the barrel? (Not worth a mention?) We have our eye on a sunseeker 2850 for traveling and living in for the summer while we look for some new land to live on. (We’re leaving wa state.) 2) how do we find an RV inspector, wherever we might buy one? We’re thinking of leaving here and buying elsewhere as they are MANY thousands cheaper in another state.
Question 1 - I wouldn't say that Forest River is the bottom of the barrel. But they did not make the list in this video or in my new Class C buying guide. There are other brands that offer Class C coaches for around the same money, but are better quality and have better customer service after the sale. If you would like to know which brands I recommend for the last 3-4 years or so, you can download my guidebook at payhip.com/b/WCwf7 Question 2 - Just go to nrvia.org and click on the "Find An Inspector" button. Then you can see where all of the NRVIA inspectors across the country are located and get their contact information. I hope that helps and thanks for watching!
I watch a video a while back by No Ordinary path here on TH-cam and they spent several hours one day looking at travel trailers and every Forest River they looked at they could see a cabinet door that was improperly installed or missing screws in the hinge or something wrong with it so they made up their mind to never buy a Forest River. I must also say that they lived in there travel trailer full time with several children and so they needed something pretty quality so I just kind of tucked that away in my mind to stay away from Forest River because of quality issues.
Do you think buying a 2017 may be a better bet for QC than a new one now? Is there a range of years, maybe because of the hot market, that may be a safer bet to buy used? Btw I absolutely agree about the QC. We drove a Coachman across country for El Monte Rentals, a “2022” that had several problems including that the fresh water level indicator was broken. Thanks for a great and very helpful video!
Actually I hesitate to say that any particular year of production is worse than another. And it all depends on the brand for each year too. Honestly, you will find the best quality materials and build practices in pre-2008 RVs. The economic crash is the watershed year where RV manufacturers started to cheapen their products to make them affordable in difficult economic times. Unfortunately, after the crash was over and the economy stabilized, the manufacturers did not return to pre-2008 practices. That's why many RVers in the know often choose an older RV, simply for the quality materials alone. As far as buying newer RVs is concerned, you can still get a good product today, but I highly recommend getting it inspected before taking delivery to make sure that you don't have to play the dealer warranty shuffle that many new RVer buyers are experiencing for the first year of ownership. Thanks for watching and commenting though!
I love Jayco company. I think of huge experience. But for motorhome nothing adjust to me. I am looking the Thor company. I need a small C not more than 25 great space. Where sleep 4 good materials but also for north of us (Colder weather some bondocking) but for medium live time. I have the Delano RW 2023 (or Tiburon) over the Unity Leisure RL. But I am evaluate the Thor AXIS.
Wait. Before signing on the dotted line… are we NOT allowed to run that RV through its paces right there in the lot? I mean fill it with water. Turn EVERYTHING on. Etc. Hell I would even request they grab a water hose an pour water on top to check for leaks.
I agree. But there are quite a few dealers these days who don't want a thorough inspection of a new RV before you take delivery. They just want you to buy it and take it off the lot as quickly as possible to make way for the next customer. Personally, I would just find another dealer to do business with.
Thanks Duane...Your insight is very valuable. If you were going to buy a Class A Diesel Mid Range price, which manufacturer would you pick? Thanks for your videos
Actually I made a video about the best quality Class A motorhomes and you can watch it here - th-cam.com/video/0a8BL-M7dAs/w-d-xo.html I would probably choose from one of the mid-range brands mentioned in that video. I hope that helps Mark.
Thanks for the great info and comparison! We’re currently looking for a used Class C (30’ ish with auto leveling)! What are your thoughts on the Ford E450 platform engines… I’ve heard good things about the old V10 but is it worth getting a newer model with the latest and greatest 7.3L “Godzilla”?
That's a good question. The V-10 engine from Ford has been around forever in the RV industry. And there is a good reason for that. They are nearly bulletproof. They last a long time with proper maintenance and they can handle a lot of weight well. The only big kick about them that I know about is that they can be gas hogs. So they won't be cheap on fuel costs. But they are great otherwise. The new Ford V-8 engine that has replaced the V-10 seems to be well made so far. But there just hasn't been enough experience with it to be sure yet. But I am not hearing any major complaints at this point. I hope that helps.
@@Blakehx oh, what about the V 10 engines make sure yours is either a 2002 or newer because the earlier ones had a problem with the heads on the engine because when they design the heads they didn't make the threads for the spark plugs deep enough and they would literally blow out the spark plugs while you're driving and if you try to change the spark plugs, what do you serviced it? It would literally melt itself to the head so be careful when purchasing the V tens make sure that it's 2002 and Newer
The RV industry needs a lemon law. Just because there some new manufacturers that brag about better quality isn't always true. We have a friend with a new East west Tandara that has numerous problems thats been sitting at a dealer waiting for parts.
Hi Ramiro. It's hard to provide a solid figure for Class As. They are the biggest and often the most advanced RVs that can be inspected. A lot depends on the size and how many luxury features they have. It also depends on what the inspector wants to charge. So I have seen a range of anywhere from $600 - $1000 in most cases.
You mentioned having a new RV inspected by an NRVIA inspector at the dealership before purchasing that RV. Should the buyer expect the dealership to cover the cost of the inspection either by paying the cost up front or reducing the price of the RV by the inspection price?
Hi Sean. No, you as the buyer should initiate and pay for the inspection. That means that the unbiased third-party inspector is working for you and not for the dealership. So the report belongs to you and is for your benefit. Also, if you pay for the inspection it proves that you are a serious buyer that they should not ignore.
Actually, if you are talking about full size Class Cs, Super Cs and Class As, I am not aware of any diesel powered RVs of those types that are under 30 feet. Nexus builds a few that are 30 feet in length but I haven't seen any under that size. Of course, there are plenty of gas powered models under 30 feet including some by Newmar, Jayco, Winnebago and others. But when they stick the diesel engine in an RV, they usually want to maximize it's pulling power with added length and luxuries.
Unfortunately, it appears that manual transmissions are not in favor these days Jimmy. It's also getting harder every year to find passenger vehicles with manual transmissions, and that means fewer vehicles to choose from for flat towing.
Good question Vince. IMHO, the quality of older Fleetwood Class Cs is a little above average. But their overall quality has been steadily improving up to now. I still don't place Fleetwood in my top tier of quality manufacturers but I wouldn't avoid them either.
Great video but I can't agree with Winnebago - I'd not buy one after seeing the way their roofs are constructed. Pretty sure they've been making them from foam and luan for at least 10 years,
Sorry Michael. I must not have gotten it. I always answer back within a few hours. But right now we are on the road headed to the Northeast so I am not doing any inspections for a while. Be sure to check the nrvia.org website for other inspectors in your area. Most likely someone will be able to get it done for you. All the best!
I don't have Forest River on my list of recommended best Class C brands Sue. This mainly due to poor build quality, customer service, and resale value. I hope that helps. Thanks for watching!
The Outlaw 29J is a very interesting rig with the fold down rear patio and drop down bed. If its layout meets your needs, it could well be worthy of consideration anyway.
What do you know about Outdoors RV? Their products seem to stand out above the entire crowd. Also, is there any point to comparing pop ups? Thank you. Shelley from San Diego
Hi Shelley. I haven't had much personal experience with Outdoors RV so I can't really offer much of an opinion on them. And pop-ups are kind of a category all to themselves. That's why I don't say much about them on my channel. They are kind of an RV and tent hybrid with more emphasis on the tent part. So I can't say much about them either. Thanks for watching and commenting though!
Unfortunately, Forest River still has lots of quality construction issues and they have had serious customer service problems in recent years, so they are still not on my recommended list. Of course, that doesn't mean that you can't get a good Forest River Class C. It just means that there are other brands that increase your odds of getting a good solid RV for the same price. I hope that helps.
@@RVInspectionAndCare I believe that Thor was on your recommended list. I would take them off your list. My brand new Ace had turn signal wiring reversed, huge leak in the water system, windshield wiper motor not working (all extremely basic items that should not make it out of the factory if anyone bothered to check). The motor for the wipers was ordered a MONTH ago, and finally came in yesterday - guess what... right box, wrong part in the box. Thor has zero quality control at this point IMO.
@@InsideOut204 Thanks for the suggestion. They have not been on my recommended list for over a year now. Mainly for poor quality issues such as the ones you mentioned. Thanks for sharing your experience here. It may be helpful for others.
Hi Joseph. If you shop for an RV from among the brands that I recommended in the video, you should be able to get a quality RV. Just be sure to get an RV inspection before the sale to make sure it is in good shape.
Hi Diana. We are full-time RVers, so we are never in one spot for very long. We are mobile and so we could be almost anywhere at any given time. Thanks for watching!
Hi Jackie. Gulfstream was never considered one of the better Class C manufacturers. They weren't great, but they weren't horrible either. If you are considering a Gulfstream, be sure to examine it thoroughly and carefully before purchase. If it has had a good record of maintenance by the owner(s) that you can verify it may be worth considering though. I hope that helps.
@@RVInspectionAndCare thank you very much. My consideration of a Gulfstream is one that is brand new. Do you recommend that I have someone evaluate it before purchasing?
These days I always recommend to have an RV inspection completed on almost all new RVs before taking delivery. That's due to the poor quality control efforts on the part of many RV manufacturers now and the equally poor PDI efforts of many RV dealers. I hope that helps Jackie. :-)
@@RVInspectionAndCare Again, many thanks! I guess an RV inspection is only as good as the inspector…any recommendations on finding a highly qualified inspector? By the way, you have been most helpful!
Just visit nrvia.org and click on the link for "Locate An Inspector". Then you can search for a certified NRVIA RV inspector on the map to find one in the area where the RV is located. If no inspectors are available, email or call the NRVIA and they will put out a special call for inspectors who may be willing to travel to get the inspection done. Thanks for watching and commenting Jackie!
Unfortunately Kathryn, to my knowledge, there isn't a lot of easily accessed reliable data about RV repairs. At least not that the RV manufacturers wish to share. Maybe that will change in the future.
The best way to find a certified RV inspector is to go to nrvia.org and click the link for "Locate An Inspector". Then enter your location and search. It may be hard to find an inspector in New Hampshire right now. Just keep widening your search until you find someone willing to travel to you. If you can't find any inspectors that are available, call NRVIA or email them and tell them you have tried but can't find an inspector to help you. They will put out an email and see if anyone is able to travel to help you. I hope that helps.
Unless I am missing something, Pleasure Way only makes Class B RVs at this point. And they make very good ones. They made the Plateau XL for a few years but it was a Class B+ not a Class C and it is not in production any longer. But I am not aware of any Class C RVs made by Pleasure Way.
As a high production RV builder Jayco does a pretty good job all across their product line. But like an manufacturer that builds a lot of units, they struggle at times with consistency. So a few units are not going to be up to quality standards. And that's why the use of a certified RV inspector can get many of those issues resolved before taking ownership of the RV.
There customer service told me it wasn’t Jayco’s job to make sure all the screws holding cabinets to wall hit studs they plumbed my black tank drain uphill 5 to 6 inches across the camper it is the dealers fault for not doing a good inspection my 2022 Jayco has Ben in for repairs every summer sense I purchased it screws missing nuts never installed on bolts holding floor to frame this is my third fifth wheel but it is the porest quality to date my keystone was a far better quality unit
@@davehuber6949 Sorry to hear about all of those problems Dave. But you actually got to the root of the problem when you said that it's a 2022 Jayco. That means that it was built during or immediately after the Covid pandemic years. And the truth is that all RV manufacturers struggled mightily through Covid with major interruptions to their workforce and their supply line. In fact, many industries other than the RV industry were hit hard during that period too. And sorry to say but you could have gotten a similar quality rig from almost any RV builder during those years. The good news is that lately I'm seeing signs of build quality getting back to a much higher level throughout the industry now.
@@RVInspectionAndCare I purchased thinking that Jayco actually cared about quality and there customer that is so fare from the truth if they really cared about their reputation are their customers they would have a lot better customer service the customer service I received from keystone was 10 times better than I ever got from Jayco they should stand behind their product
@@RVInspectionAndCare if the dealers know that Their products are defective on a constant basis, the dealers need to sue them, or refuse to accept products from the factories
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Best advice....hire an rv inspector before signing for that new or used rv.
That's great advice John. These days it's often a necessity if you want to get the RV you paid for right away without hassles and frustrations.
Amen
And line up a good attorney too.
Or just buy one from Big Bo
Another great video. I wish some group like J.D. Power or Consumer Reports would rate RVs based on Initial Quality like they do cars. Once that info became available I think the manufacturers would straighten out their quality control issues real quickly!
Yes, that would be a big help. They will most likely continue their current pattern until it is just not tolerated any longer, and consumers demand a better product.
The RV industry spends millions on lobbying against consumer reports and quality control.
This is an older thread. But still very relevant. I would suggest the break in period is more like 2 years. I'm convinced this is why Jayco provides their full 2 year warranty. By the time the 2 years was up on my new 2015 Greyhawk, which I absolutely loved and plan to buy again. Pretty much everything had been sorted. Also important to note is that by the 2 year mark I had learned how to pretty much service everything myself - simple chassis engine to maintain, easy to maintain generator, and all the associated coach section repairs - loose hinges, trim pieces loosening, caulking, etc. If you never plan to do this work yourself or feel incapable, a motorhome may not be a good idea.
Thanks for leaving a very thoughtful and positive comment. It's much appreciated!
Great video - thanks. I have a 1 year old Entegra Odyssey 26D and I can't say enough about how much I love this RV. We have had one or two issues - the tank heater coming partially un-glued from the gray tank - I just sprayed a little glue and reattached. A trim piece over the main slide didn't have enough staples and sagged in the middle - dealer fixed that for us in a few minutes. The other issue was a resonation / vibration over 67MPH - that Ford and Jayco both didn't want to fix - each said it was the other's responsibility. I removed a couple shims in the rear carrier bearing (on advise from the Jayco forum) and it's gone - no problem. I really like the Ford 7.3 - goes up every grade as fast as I want to. I did add in inverter since all 3 TV's are 110V and no inverter - I think Entegra makes the perfect rig - it's perfectly dialed in and has every feature I need in an RV so I have to agree with your brand choices.
Hi Devon. Every Entegra Class C owner that I have spoken with has loved their rig. So I'm glad that you feel the same way. And I'm glad that you got your repair issues handled too. I was also interested to hear your feedback on the 7.3 V-8 engine too. A lot of people are wondering how well it would compare with the older V-10 engines. But it sounds like you are happy with it. Thanks for sharing your experience with us!
Very good advice about hiring an RV inspector to check out a new RV! So many are poorly made these days. Brands - we have a 1991 Lazy Daze with a Chevy 454 engine and it is excellent. After all these years, no rattles or squeaks. All aluminum body panels, no slide outs... even on their new ones. Latest upgrade... just ordered a rear view camera, with its little color tv screen that I'll put on the dash after moving the radio. What's shocking about the LD... everything works. Year after year, with normal maintenance. Bought two new house batteries a year ago, will probably buy new tires next year... mine look great but are 7 years old now. And the odometer stopped at 62,000 miles... added another 5,000 since. Easy to fix, since it is basically a standard Chevy C30 truck with a people box on the back. Thanks for recommending Lazy Daze... a great small company!
Thanks for sharing your experience with a Lazy Days rig with us Jon. What you said matches the comments I have heard from other LD owners. They make a great product and a lot of full-timers love them. Keep up the good work on the maintenance for that rig and it may last forever! :-)
Great video. Own an Entegra Odyssey and so far we are happy with it but there are some QC concerns. Waiting for some parts for warranty. The 2 year warranty does help with them and Jayco. BTW- never leave your RV with dealer for warranty work. Wait for the parts and schedule an appointment.
Hi Joseph. Unfortunately, Covid continues to play havoc with supply chains and as it does, quality control issues are going to continue to suffer. Even among some of the better quality brands like Entegra. It's pretty common to see QC issues on almost everything being made now.
Another great video Duane. Thanks for mentioning the quality issues with new units. Personally I prefer used units with a history of maintenance and ownership. I know several folk that have purchased new units and every one had issues. Some major, some minor. Thanks again for your knowledge and your information. I appreciate it.
Glad you enjoyed the video BSF. If RVs had the same quality control that we have come to expect from new car manufacturers there wouldn't be much to complain about. But as you say, lots of new RV buyers are experiencing problems, sometimes serious ones, with their purchase. Thanks for sharing your thoughts about it!
Agreed that buying used might be better than new! Let the original buyer fix everything and take the depreciation. I’m also thinking about a used class-c rental from cruise America!
Wow, thank you for explaining the inspection reason on a new RV, that makes sense; going behind the quality control of the manufacturer. 👍🏼
Hi Heather. I know that a lot of people can't understand why you would want to call in an RV inspector on a new RV. But it would not be necessary if the manufacturers and dealers were doing their job to make sure that new RVs are in the kind of shape that new RV buyers expect. Sadly, that's just not the case right now. But hopefully that will change. Thanks for watching and commenting!
You nailed it. Love your message and honest comments. RV inspections are the best, for the buyer in today's world . Thanks
My pleasure Ray. I'm glad that you enjoyed the video. And thanks for leaving such positive feedback too!
Thank you. We are going to take at least a year for research before we even consider making a purchase. Videos like ths are an important part of our education. I've heard that many dealers will not allow an outside inspector to be part of the process -- in that case, I think the only sensible thing a buyer can say to a dealer then is "good bye".
You're in a great position right now Mary Jane. You have the time to do some really good research before you make your buying decision. Take your time and look at lots of RVs in the meantime. It will help you know better what will fit you best. And I agree that if a dealer denies an RV inspection, you should find a different dealer.
Have a new 27u Entegra from Layzay day best thing we did lazydays was great
That sounds great. I'm glad to hear that you had a good buying experience!
I know this is older video..thank you I am looking to purchase an RV
Very helpful
It's still pretty accurate overall. Thanks for watching!
I find this information tremendously useful. It will be interesting to see if Tiffin and Newmar get very far in this market in the next few years.
Hi Randy. Yes, everyone is watching closely to see what Winnebago and Thor will do with their new acquisitions.
You are so right sir! we end up returning 3-4 times to the dealer to fix issue ... sometimes i will just fix it myself because we dont want wait anymore. From 5th wheel with minor issue to heavy issue class A . Sometimes its better to buy used Rv instead to avoid those headache. Ty!
Unfortunately, this kind of experience is becoming very common these days. I get a LOT of requests for RV inspections on brand new RVs now. And personally, yes I would rather buy used right now myself just because of these kind of issues.
Duane thank you so much for this information across the board! If I had a fat enough check book I'd go with a Newmar super C and now that Winnebago bought Newmar I've got to correct manufacturer! Just goofing around. Have a wonderful day! Thanks SAFE TRAVELS
I knew you were going to call me on the Newmar Super C Ron. :-) I thought about putting Newmar in the mix but they just don't have the presence in the Class C field that the other brands I mentioned in the video do. But as long as you brought the subject up, they really do make a great coach don't they?
Yes Sir they do. I just had to throw in to the mix for fun! Thanks
Wow did I learn a LOT! Guess I’m going to binge his videos.
That sounds great to me Paul. Thanks for watching!
Excellent video! 1) What are some of the common issues you seem to find during new rv inspections? 2) Do inspectors look at mechanics as well?
Well, new RV problems are all over the map. It can include anything from roof problems to slide issues to safety violations and much more. It all depends on the skills and mindset of the workers that put the RV together. And RV inspectors do make a visual inspection of mechanical issues, but they are not mechanics so that is where it ends for us. But I always recommend getting a fluid analysis done on all the major engine and generator fluids to find out what is happening inside those components. And it wouldn't hurt to have a mechanic look over the chassis as well.
After the chassis, and the appliance components, what is left to consider for the manufacture quality? Structure (hopefully metal cage not wood), Roof (fiberglass or aluminum rather than rubber and it's derivatives), Sides (Azdel is the standard), Cabinetry and Paint (Automotive rather than glosscoat.) With that in mind, we would submit Sunseeker/Forester or BTCruiser as options.
It's not just the components that count. It's the way the whole RV is put together with attention to detail. And the procedures for doing that vary widely from one manufacturer to another. Some are more geared to high production at all costs. And others take a little more time to make sure that they turn out a better product.
Great information Duane and important buying tips.
I would like to add Forest River Forester / Sunseeker to the mid range list new & used.
Thanks for sharing that Chimp. I appreciate your contributions to the channel!
Thank you so very much! Really gives us food for thought.
You are so welcome Meredith. I'm glad that you enjoyed the video enough to leave a nice comment!
Very informative, thank you !
So glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching and commenting!
So happy to see another one of your great and excellent videos 🙂🎉🎊🎉🎈 keep up the good work !
Thanks for leaving such a nice comment. Glad you enjoyed the video!
Thank you. Great information!!
Glad it was helpful John. Thanks for watching and commenting!
What a Great Video and Information on Class C RV Brands and even getting an inspection prior to taking possession of a New RV #RVInspectorsRock
Glad you enjoyed it William. Thanks for watching!
Excellent and informative video!
Thanks so much! Both for watching and also leaving such a nice comment.
I wish more time was spent viewing RV with the criteria spoken about.
Thanks for the feedback Maria.
Thank you for sharing Duane, much appreciated.
My pleasure Daralen. I hope the video was helpful!
This is such a great video. Is it as valid now as it was when you made this video? The processes manufacturers implemented when COVID hit definitely degraded the quality of some previously splendid brands. Then, adding in the fact that Thor seems to have hoovered up so many lovely manufacturers, it seems that has caused quality to be degraded.
Regardless, I am in the market for a self contained Class C or a larger Class B. I am tired of staying on pavement. I want to park next to creek and not have to worry about bottoming out. I am 100% getting an inspector next time.
In general, it's still pretty accurate. The Covid pandemic affected all RV manufacturers negatively due to workforce shortages and major supply chain issues. But they have been working their way out of those problems. And now most of the better RV builders are pretty much back on track. Also, just because Thor owns a company does not necessarily mean that it has had a negative influence on the way that company builds RVs. That is just hearsay spread by some online influencers who don't really know what they are talking about.
Very informative and to the point, good job 👍
Glad you liked it Mackie. Thanks for watching!
I like your lists.
Thanks Tony. I'm glad they are helpful for you!
I bought a new Forest River RV in 2018. It had issues with rust on the frame that year. I contacted the dealer but they said "sorry we can fit you in for 3 months and by then the warranty will have run out. Do you still want to book it in?" This year a wall started sagging. I talked directly to Forest River and they said they are going to bring it in and replace the axle and the frame. I'll believe it when I see it. I wish I knew then what I know now about not getting ripped off by RV dealers. You live and learn. Always get an independent inspection by an NRVIA certified inspector. Don't ever trust the dealer to have an inspection done.
So sorry to hear about all of your troubles with your Forest River RV. BTW, Forest River is not on my recommended list of towable RVs. There's just been too many stories like this lately. You are absolutely right that getting a certified RV inspector to go through the RV and get the major issues fixed before you take delivery is a very smart move. But honestly, there are so many issues coming out of the RV factories these days that sometimes even the inspectors can't catch them all if they are hidden. But you have your best chance to get an RV that you can depend on by buying from one of the better brands and then getting the certified RV inspector to find the problems. Even though your story is sad, I thank you for sharing your experience with us and hopefully others can learn from it. At least that way, something good can come of all your troubles.
@@RVInspectionAndCare Thanks, that's exactly why I shared. Because too many people have similar stories. Maybe RV dealers and companies will be more accountable if naive buyers stop buying crappy RVs. And we've all been naive once. I am glad Jayco has built an inspection facility to help ensure customer satisfaction with their rigs. I am going to move up to a gently used Class C in the spring. I like the Entegra Odyssey floor plan and reputation for quality, so I am leaning that way right now.
@@rpodadventure Entegra is a good manufacturer but they seem to be pretty scarce right now. So maybe you can find a good one on the slightly used market that fits your needs. I hope it works out well for you!
@@RVInspectionAndCare Thanks!
@@RVInspectionAndCare My theory is that more used ones will come on the market this spring/summer. Fingers crossed.
You make GOOD POINTS! 🔷
I'm glad you think so. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Your opinion means everything with your experience.what do you think of class c bigfoot with small garage and rear bedroom no slides or with slides?please sir send reply.it means alot to me and my family.... thank you
Actually Bigfoot made a very high quality RV back in the day. Unfortunately, they appear to be out of business now, but they are well known for the great rigs that they produced in the past. Just make sure that you have any rig that old inspected thoroughly to make sure that it does not have hidden problems.
@@RVInspectionAndCare yes sir.thank you for your reply so quickly.your subscriber ironhide2025
in order for RV industry improve quality control, they need to be hit by competition from abroad. some Australian and european brands have great quality. the issue is that we, americans, love the biggest and the baddest while foreigners do smaller units
Those are good points Alex. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the informative videos. I'm considering buying a Class C for part-time use. I have some physical limitations though (53 year old, female). What is your opinion on someone like me rv-ing? My physical limitations are strength related. I have to be careful to not exert myself too much. I'm fully mobile though. Some family members think that managing an rv will be too difficult for me... none of the family has experience with an rv though.
I would say that if you doctor is ok with your traveling in an RV, it should be fine. I know several disabled and near-disabled folks that travel in RVs just fine. But you really should follow the advice that your doctor gives you about your travel capabilities. If your doctor says you are able to be an RVer, you might try renting an RV for a few times to make sure you are comfortable with all that it involves before making the purchase though. I hope that helps.
@@RVInspectionAndCare thank you! I appreciate the feedback.
Great video! Very informative .We are doing our homework on RVs. Not sure if we want Class C or an RV to haul. There are pluses and minuses to both so we just have to figure out which way to go. We will target an RV that is a few years old-seems they devalue right off the lot and so we figure just like a car-some of that devaluation have righted itself after a few years and kinks have also worked themselves out. One of the things that holds me back is the mattresses. I have a lot of back issues so RVs typically dont have the finest mattress quality-could be wrong when it comes to higher end. Are there any that you can purchase a regular mattress to put in? That really is what is holding me back (of all things).
Mattress size is a problem with many RVs. Here is a link to a company that many RVers say is a great resource for RV mattresses and they answer a lot of mattress questions too - www.mattressinsider.com/rv-mattress.html I hope that helps!
What about Bigfoot? I've been looking at them as well. Mahalo for sharing. I currently have a 2007 dynamax Isada 24 footer, love it. Just looking for something bigger. Maybe 30'. The full time bed is a must.
Bigfoot RVs have a fan base and they seem to be built with reasonable quality. But I haven't had much experience with them, so they didn't make my list. Thanks for sharing your opinion on your Dynamax though. They are great coaches.
We have a Bigfoot class C motorhome they where built in The US til 2008 they are a four season motorhome and very well built almost over built they still built there trailers and campers in Canada, the motorhome is rear just like a Lazydays.👍😉😉😁
Sad that the qc is so low. I bought a 9 year old class c but it still needed some upgrades. You didn’t mention Forest River this is my second one and I think they hold up well. I do keep mine stored inside in winter.
Hi Ford Racer. The list of the best quality Class C brands is subjective as I mentioned in the video. And just because a brand isn't on the list doesn't necessarily mean that you shouldn't buy it. But the brands I mentioned are the ones that tend to use the best quality materials for the cost of the RVs they make. As you pay more, the quality gets even better. But keeping your RV inside a lot of the time, you will help make almost any brand last much longer. So that's a very smart move. Thanks for watching and commenting!
outstanding video thanks for this
Glad you enjoyed it Joe. Thanks for watching!
Jayco and Entegra are built on the same line and are owned by Jayco.
Hi Patriot. Thanks for watching the video and contributing!
This was very helpful, thank you.
2 questions -
1) forest river wasn’t mentioned. Are they bottom of the barrel? (Not worth a mention?) We have our eye on a sunseeker 2850 for traveling and living in for the summer while we look for some new land to live on. (We’re leaving wa state.)
2) how do we find an RV inspector, wherever we might buy one? We’re thinking of leaving here and buying elsewhere as they are MANY thousands cheaper in another state.
Question 1 - I wouldn't say that Forest River is the bottom of the barrel. But they did not make the list in this video or in my new Class C buying guide. There are other brands that offer Class C coaches for around the same money, but are better quality and have better customer service after the sale. If you would like to know which brands I recommend for the last 3-4 years or so, you can download my guidebook at payhip.com/b/WCwf7 Question 2 - Just go to nrvia.org and click on the "Find An Inspector" button. Then you can see where all of the NRVIA inspectors across the country are located and get their contact information. I hope that helps and thanks for watching!
I watch a video a while back by No Ordinary path here on TH-cam and they spent several hours one day looking at travel trailers and every Forest River they looked at they could see a cabinet door that was improperly installed or missing screws in the hinge or something wrong with it so they made up their mind to never buy a Forest River. I must also say that they lived in there travel trailer full time with several children and so they needed something pretty quality so I just kind of tucked that away in my mind to stay away from Forest River because of quality issues.
Do you think buying a 2017 may be a better bet for QC than a new one now? Is there a range of years, maybe because of the hot market, that may be a safer bet to buy used? Btw I absolutely agree about the QC. We drove a Coachman across country for El Monte Rentals, a “2022” that had several problems including that the fresh water level indicator was broken. Thanks for a great and very helpful video!
Actually I hesitate to say that any particular year of production is worse than another. And it all depends on the brand for each year too. Honestly, you will find the best quality materials and build practices in pre-2008 RVs. The economic crash is the watershed year where RV manufacturers started to cheapen their products to make them affordable in difficult economic times. Unfortunately, after the crash was over and the economy stabilized, the manufacturers did not return to pre-2008 practices. That's why many RVers in the know often choose an older RV, simply for the quality materials alone. As far as buying newer RVs is concerned, you can still get a good product today, but I highly recommend getting it inspected before taking delivery to make sure that you don't have to play the dealer warranty shuffle that many new RVer buyers are experiencing for the first year of ownership. Thanks for watching and commenting though!
I love Jayco company. I think of huge experience. But for motorhome nothing adjust to me. I am looking the Thor company. I need a small C not more than 25 great space. Where sleep 4 good materials but also for north of us (Colder weather some bondocking) but for medium live time. I have the Delano RW 2023 (or Tiburon) over the Unity Leisure RL. But I am evaluate the Thor AXIS.
I hope you find the perfect RV for your needs. Thanks for watching!
You are Awesome !!! Can you review a 2021 Primetime Avenger rks ?
Thanks for the kind words Mike. I'll add it to the list and see what I can do.
Nice informative job
So nice of you to say David. Thanks for watching!
Wait. Before signing on the dotted line… are we NOT allowed to run that RV through its paces right there in the lot? I mean fill it with water. Turn EVERYTHING on. Etc. Hell I would even request they grab a water hose an pour water on top to check for leaks.
I agree. But there are quite a few dealers these days who don't want a thorough inspection of a new RV before you take delivery. They just want you to buy it and take it off the lot as quickly as possible to make way for the next customer. Personally, I would just find another dealer to do business with.
@@RVInspectionAndCare Wow. I will be doing the same. Thank you
Thank You
I'm glad you enjoyed the video James. Thanks for watching!
Thanks Duane...Your insight is very valuable. If you were going to buy a Class A Diesel Mid Range price, which manufacturer would you pick? Thanks for your videos
Actually I made a video about the best quality Class A motorhomes and you can watch it here - th-cam.com/video/0a8BL-M7dAs/w-d-xo.html I would probably choose from one of the mid-range brands mentioned in that video. I hope that helps Mark.
Thanks for the great info and comparison! We’re currently looking for a used Class C (30’ ish with auto leveling)! What are your thoughts on the Ford E450 platform engines… I’ve heard good things about the old V10 but is it worth getting a newer model with the latest and greatest 7.3L “Godzilla”?
That's a good question. The V-10 engine from Ford has been around forever in the RV industry. And there is a good reason for that. They are nearly bulletproof. They last a long time with proper maintenance and they can handle a lot of weight well. The only big kick about them that I know about is that they can be gas hogs. So they won't be cheap on fuel costs. But they are great otherwise. The new Ford V-8 engine that has replaced the V-10 seems to be well made so far. But there just hasn't been enough experience with it to be sure yet. But I am not hearing any major complaints at this point. I hope that helps.
What about gulf stream what do u think about them all the years they been in busy on build quality ?
I’d like to know too… I’ve heard good things but don’t know much
@@Blakehx oh, what about the V 10 engines make sure yours is either a 2002 or newer because the earlier ones had a problem with the heads on the engine because when they design the heads they didn't make the threads for the spark plugs deep enough and they would literally blow out the spark plugs while you're driving and if you try to change the spark plugs, what do you serviced it? It would literally melt itself to the head so be careful when purchasing the V tens make sure that it's 2002 and Newer
The RV industry needs a lemon law.
Just because there some new manufacturers that brag about better quality isn't always true.
We have a friend with a new East west Tandara that has numerous problems thats been sitting at a dealer waiting for parts.
Thanks for sharing that experience with us.
Serrait ti possible d’avoir une traduction en français de vos super vidéo que j’aime beaucoups
Sorry Louise but I don't have that capability yet.
What would be the typical cost, more or less, for an RV Inspection on a new Class A?
Hi Ramiro. It's hard to provide a solid figure for Class As. They are the biggest and often the most advanced RVs that can be inspected. A lot depends on the size and how many luxury features they have. It also depends on what the inspector wants to charge. So I have seen a range of anywhere from $600 - $1000 in most cases.
Thank you Duane!!
You mentioned having a new RV inspected by an NRVIA inspector at the dealership before purchasing that RV. Should the buyer expect the dealership to cover the cost of the inspection either by paying the cost up front or reducing the price of the RV by the inspection price?
Hi Sean. No, you as the buyer should initiate and pay for the inspection. That means that the unbiased third-party inspector is working for you and not for the dealership. So the report belongs to you and is for your benefit. Also, if you pay for the inspection it proves that you are a serious buyer that they should not ignore.
Thank you@@RVInspectionAndCare
I trust this guy, I will never buy a Forest River product ever again.
Thanks David. Have safe and happy travels!
Are there any sub 30’ class A or C diesel options, (not B or small C Sprinter) ?
Actually, if you are talking about full size Class Cs, Super Cs and Class As, I am not aware of any diesel powered RVs of those types that are under 30 feet. Nexus builds a few that are 30 feet in length but I haven't seen any under that size. Of course, there are plenty of gas powered models under 30 feet including some by Newmar, Jayco, Winnebago and others. But when they stick the diesel engine in an RV, they usually want to maximize it's pulling power with added length and luxuries.
Do any builders of the Super C class use the commercial manual transmissions?
I am not aware of any Super C brands that feature a manual tranny Jimmy.
@@RVInspectionAndCare I guess nobody wants manuals anymore! Thanks for taking the time to reply.
Unfortunately, it appears that manual transmissions are not in favor these days Jimmy. It's also getting harder every year to find passenger vehicles with manual transmissions, and that means fewer vehicles to choose from for flat towing.
Where does Fleetwood used/new fall in your categories?
Good question Vince. IMHO, the quality of older Fleetwood Class Cs is a little above average. But their overall quality has been steadily improving up to now. I still don't place Fleetwood in my top tier of quality manufacturers but I wouldn't avoid them either.
Great video but I can't agree with Winnebago - I'd not buy one after seeing the way their roofs are constructed. Pretty sure they've been making them from foam and luan for at least 10 years,
This kind of list is very subjective and lots of people have their own opinions. But I still stand by Winnebago from I have seen.
Sent inquiry on your website regarding an inspection. Have not heard back. ??
Sorry Michael. I must not have gotten it. I always answer back within a few hours. But right now we are on the road headed to the Northeast so I am not doing any inspections for a while. Be sure to check the nrvia.org website for other inspectors in your area. Most likely someone will be able to get it done for you. All the best!
What About Forest River Class C's
I don't have Forest River on my list of recommended best Class C brands Sue. This mainly due to poor build quality, customer service, and resale value. I hope that helps. Thanks for watching!
How about thor class c outlaw 29j?
The Outlaw 29J is a very interesting rig with the fold down rear patio and drop down bed. If its layout meets your needs, it could well be worthy of consideration anyway.
What’s the best Travel trailer under 30 Ft . Well made
That's a good question Tony. Actually there are several good TT brands out there and I will be making a video about them very soon. So stay tuned!
@@RVInspectionAndCare Thank you
What do you know about Outdoors RV? Their products seem to stand out above the entire crowd. Also, is there any point to comparing pop ups? Thank you. Shelley from San Diego
Hi Shelley. I haven't had much personal experience with Outdoors RV so I can't really offer much of an opinion on them. And pop-ups are kind of a category all to themselves. That's why I don't say much about them on my channel. They are kind of an RV and tent hybrid with more emphasis on the tent part. So I can't say much about them either. Thanks for watching and commenting though!
What top 5 manufacturers have the best Quality control.?
Hi Al. I created a guidebook about that and you can find it here - payhip.com/b/WCwf7
Being a year later, how do you rate the Forest River Solera? The fit and finish seem nice but asking the expert 🙂
Unfortunately, Forest River still has lots of quality construction issues and they have had serious customer service problems in recent years, so they are still not on my recommended list. Of course, that doesn't mean that you can't get a good Forest River Class C. It just means that there are other brands that increase your odds of getting a good solid RV for the same price. I hope that helps.
@@RVInspectionAndCare Thank you so much!
@@RVInspectionAndCare I believe that Thor was on your recommended list. I would take them off your list. My brand new Ace had turn signal wiring reversed, huge leak in the water system, windshield wiper motor not working (all extremely basic items that should not make it out of the factory if anyone bothered to check). The motor for the wipers was ordered a MONTH ago, and finally came in yesterday - guess what... right box, wrong part in the box. Thor has zero quality control at this point IMO.
@@InsideOut204 Thanks for the suggestion. They have not been on my recommended list for over a year now. Mainly for poor quality issues such as the ones you mentioned. Thanks for sharing your experience here. It may be helpful for others.
Which class c should I get for a beginner I’m trying to find a good one for me and my fiancé any ideas?
Hi Joseph. If you shop for an RV from among the brands that I recommended in the video, you should be able to get a quality RV. Just be sure to get an RV inspection before the sale to make sure it is in good shape.
@@RVInspectionAndCare thank you so much I only have a class c license so just wanted your best opinion thank you so much God Bless🙏🙏
Wow, Duane, where are you located.
Hi Diana. We are full-time RVers, so we are never in one spot for very long. We are mobile and so we could be almost anywhere at any given time. Thanks for watching!
No Renegade super c?
I believe that I did put Renegade on my list of higher end Super Cs sold today. I know that I meant to include them.
Do you have any feedback regarding Gulfstream?
Hi Jackie. Gulfstream was never considered one of the better Class C manufacturers. They weren't great, but they weren't horrible either. If you are considering a Gulfstream, be sure to examine it thoroughly and carefully before purchase. If it has had a good record of maintenance by the owner(s) that you can verify it may be worth considering though. I hope that helps.
@@RVInspectionAndCare thank you very much. My consideration of a Gulfstream is one that is brand new. Do you recommend that I have someone evaluate it before purchasing?
These days I always recommend to have an RV inspection completed on almost all new RVs before taking delivery. That's due to the poor quality control efforts on the part of many RV manufacturers now and the equally poor PDI efforts of many RV dealers. I hope that helps Jackie. :-)
@@RVInspectionAndCare Again, many thanks! I guess an RV inspection is only as good as the inspector…any recommendations on finding a highly qualified inspector? By the way, you have been most helpful!
Just visit nrvia.org and click on the link for "Locate An Inspector". Then you can search for a certified NRVIA RV inspector on the map to find one in the area where the RV is located. If no inspectors are available, email or call the NRVIA and they will put out a special call for inspectors who may be willing to travel to get the inspection done. Thanks for watching and commenting Jackie!
Well it's not all opinion. There must be stats on repairs. So you don't use the data, just anecdotes? Hmm. I do like that 10 year comparison.
Unfortunately Kathryn, to my knowledge, there isn't a lot of easily accessed reliable data about RV repairs. At least not that the RV manufacturers wish to share. Maybe that will change in the future.
How can I find a certified RV inspector in my state of New Hampshire or any state??
The best way to find a certified RV inspector is to go to nrvia.org and click the link for "Locate An Inspector". Then enter your location and search. It may be hard to find an inspector in New Hampshire right now. Just keep widening your search until you find someone willing to travel to you. If you can't find any inspectors that are available, call NRVIA or email them and tell them you have tried but can't find an inspector to help you. They will put out an email and see if anyone is able to travel to help you. I hope that helps.
@@RVInspectionAndCare Thanks!!
I think that every American that camps should own a Winnebago at some point in their life.
Interesting idea Brad. Thanks for sharing that with us.
Not even mention ' pleasure way '?
Unless I am missing something, Pleasure Way only makes Class B RVs at this point. And they make very good ones. They made the Plateau XL for a few years but it was a Class B+ not a Class C and it is not in production any longer. But I am not aware of any Class C RVs made by Pleasure Way.
I hope Jayco class c is built way better than their upper end fifth wheels
As a high production RV builder Jayco does a pretty good job all across their product line. But like an manufacturer that builds a lot of units, they struggle at times with consistency. So a few units are not going to be up to quality standards. And that's why the use of a certified RV inspector can get many of those issues resolved before taking ownership of the RV.
There customer service told me it wasn’t Jayco’s job to make sure all the screws holding cabinets to wall hit studs they plumbed my black tank drain uphill 5 to 6 inches across the camper it is the dealers fault for not doing a good inspection my 2022 Jayco has Ben in for repairs every summer sense I purchased it screws missing nuts never installed on bolts holding floor to frame this is my third fifth wheel but it is the porest quality to date my keystone was a far better quality unit
@@davehuber6949 Sorry to hear about all of those problems Dave. But you actually got to the root of the problem when you said that it's a 2022 Jayco. That means that it was built during or immediately after the Covid pandemic years. And the truth is that all RV manufacturers struggled mightily through Covid with major interruptions to their workforce and their supply line. In fact, many industries other than the RV industry were hit hard during that period too. And sorry to say but you could have gotten a similar quality rig from almost any RV builder during those years. The good news is that lately I'm seeing signs of build quality getting back to a much higher level throughout the industry now.
@@RVInspectionAndCare I purchased thinking that Jayco actually cared about quality and there customer that is so fare from the truth if they really cared about their reputation are their customers they would have a lot better customer service the customer service I received from keystone was 10 times better than I ever got from Jayco they should stand behind their product
Lazy Daze has gone out of business.
That's true Paul. It was still in business at the time of this video but sadly doesn't appear to be coming back anytime soon.
Dealerships are shisters
Some of them truly are. Not all, but some of them. Thanks for watching!
@@RVInspectionAndCare if the dealers know that Their products are defective on a constant basis, the dealers need to sue them, or refuse to accept products from the factories
Thank you
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!