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- High end vs online bargain. I put these light from different sides of the track next to each other and talk about the pros and cons. Obviously there are some big manufacturing quality difrences. But are they $210 better?
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ARRG I made a mistake so I'm pinning it up here. The A160WE featured in this video is a 40 Watt light. Which explains a lot. Everything else seems to be right but I got my models crossed when I looked up the specs. Sorry about that.
Have you seen this video yet? -- Don’t buy any aquarium lighting system to you’ve seen this video. - th-cam.com/video/uWna4cKscc0/w-d-xo.html
If you want to take the time , there's an easy fix for your broken light.
There are driverless LED's on the market now , the 30 watt is approx. $8,- for 5 of them (look for 30W Cool White COB Chip Smart IC 110v)
You may even be able to run the 50 watt version as the base is so big.
Yes , yes , you need to solder 2 wires.(don't forget to put some silicone heatsink compound on the base of the LED when mounting it to the frame).
Be careful not to reverse polarity.
Big advantage of these LED's is that you can remove the big box on top of the reflector base (that only hold the obsolete driver) to create a smaller footprint.
Just a suggestion , it would be a waste to throw out the broken units for such a simple fix.
My own experience with a flood light is quite positive. I grew lots of mid/low light plants, and they stayed nicely green and grew fast. For a really nice display tank that needs to be looking great, the Kessil is probably the better choice. For my own enjoyment and practicality, I'll keep with LED floods, and spend the extra cash on fish and plants.
Thanks again for your videos, I look forward to them every week.
Also - I have a lineatus puffer. I can vouch for their awesome personality. He's like my little water puppy. Totally recommended, but does not really fit with your typical community tank style. Mine has tank mates, but they're big enough, and were in the tank first.
hey , so u r saying halogen flood lights are okay for plants?
i heard that they dont produce the blue and red spectrum that plants mostly need?
I would be interested in PAR results and plant growth results after few months. Intensity is not enough to judge a light but thank you for showing us how it looks like, love your videos :)
Thanks for the comparison! I've wondered how they would match up. I had to replace my t5s. They did not shed enough light in my 150 and the replacement bulbs were expensive. After a couple of missteps, I got the big grey flood lights. 2- 300 watt floods make my tank bright all the way to the substrate. So far so good. Even if I have to replace them once a yr it will take nearly a decade to spend up to the price of a kessil. I just cannot justify the cost of the Kessil at my income. I feel even better about the choice now.
Wow.. thanks for reviewing the flood light, been on my mind for a while. Thinking of upgrading my 40 falling dual t8's, this might be the guy. Thanks Pecktec!!
look up "solla" lights...........they're completely submersible!!! The manufacturer doesn't recommend submersing......but if it does fall in (no comment LOL) you're 100% OK.
BTW I used the flood lights for my 125. Ended up going from 4, 30W..........to 2 15W!!!!! The 4 30 watters gave me an algae paradise.
Thanks for the side by side comparison. I use the flood lights and love them. I thought about getting a kessil for my 60 gal cube to really make it a sleek display, but I just can't justify the cost when I already have amazing growth.
People are nutz paying that kind of money for that Kessil. You can buy a grow light LED for a little over 100 that would blow that Kessel away.
hey , so u r saying halogen flood lights are okay for plants?
i heard that they dont produce the blue and red spectrum that plants mostly need?
Great vid on the light comparison. The main point that I would not go with the LED flood was the heat but for the price a great deal. Need to see the update to see if it lasts too. Thanks for sharing.
Great Video & Great overview on products. I've always been a sucker for the "cheaper" products on amazon etc..
Good video. I just put one on order. $30 Light for a planted 10 gal will allow the purchase of more expensive rocks; aqua soil etc. For beam width of the light put a graph (X,Y) on the floor and suspend the lights over it. Nice job!
Great video, just bought some similar lights to replace an undersized "aquarium light" cant wait to see the results
Nice comparison sean. Never really seen side by side. Mine have been going for more than a year now and they're fine. I have mine mounted to a pvc fitting and the heat hasn't been an issue. The 100w light would be a beast!
The kessil has much nicer color temperature and rendition imo thanks for sharing. I would check out the lighting videos on bulk reef supply if you haven't settled yet...for a dream level tank I would do a t5ho led hybrid
I've never understood the attraction of the Kessils. They definitely seem wayyyyyyy overpriced, plus I'm not a fan of the single point light sources unless there is only one light. Otherwise I'd take an LED bar for 1/4 - 1/2 the cost of several Kessils to get better, consistent coverage rather than a few spotlights.
I loooooove spotlight effect on tank it show shadow, highlight and contrast way better that LED strip light. You might see the fish less but ituch more dramatic light effect. I guess we have different taste.
Kessils look freaking cool on a tank the spot light effect changes how your plants grow in makes a very unique look
Have you ever seen one in person?
Use PAR30 or PAR38 bulb then
I use the floods now and am very happy with them. They get warm but not hot enough to burn you. I use ZHMA lights 50 or 100W depending on tank size. On display tanks I like using a strip light in the front to brighten the display front to back. Using the floods for overall lighting about a foot over the tank maybe more depending on how much spread and intensity I want. Thanks for this video. I will not buy a kessil from what I have seen of them from youtubers.
I had the same problem when starting my 150 gal. walstad aquarium. I decided to go with the kessil A160WE because it was able to send more light to the substrate compared to the other lights and the tank is 21 inches tall. I have been running these lights for four years.
Thanks a lot Sean! Your logo on the shirts are so cool. I would have bought it if I seen it in a store! So I am happy to support your great channel as well. Very nice video. The Kessil light is pretty much the only expensive light I never tried. Because they are REALLY expensive and videos like this shows that you need a lot on a big tank. But if money wasn't an issue, they do look very sexy. 😎
So true I just spent more than I've ever spent on the back ground. so Im looking to cut a corner here and there.
Looking forward to see your new tank!
pretty cool comparison. I did not expect the LED Flood light to be even in the same playing field.
Hi Pecktec and subscribers.
Awesome alternative described towards end of long yet worthwhile comment post. :)
Thanks for the video. Honestly i wasn't surprised. Used flood lights myself and know of their awesome power especially for deep planted tanks. Sadly quality and therefore life period is greatly variable. Some burning out in just a few months. A simple pc fan or small fan from eBay super cheap nearby is really useful for cooling and extending their lives. This is great if in a hood and especially above tropical aquariums. I like to buy a few of the couple $ USB fans and have them attached to a USB bus. So i can have tiny fans here and there near gear or specific tanks all around parts of the fish room with just one power point used.
Additionally you can have the floodlights attached/hanging off a metal post (preferably rectangular prism). if done right with as much contact between lights and pole. It acts as a much larger heatsink addition. This can be done cheap or even with scraps from the garage in a very short period of time.
I also recommend people use timers for their lights especially for Floodlights on aquariums. forgetting to turn one off can lead it to super heat itself and destroy a tank with algae just overnight.
Using a siesta period (ligjts go off for 30min to 2 hours partway through lights on duration) during the light cycle not only interrupts algae formation but also gives the lights valuable time to cool down. Thereby extending their lives.
One day i happened upon a alternative/upgrade to the floodlights. I still use today on my terrariums and aquariums. Car LED spotlights!! Yes. its that simple.
For 50AUD i bought a pack of 8 of them. 30w. each with 6x 5w CREE LEDS. Mounting brackets. Large heatsink. They are also IP67 rated. As in waterproof! Being designed to sit on front bull bars on 4 wheel drives you'd expect them to be hardy. And hardy they are. rated to be able to be fully submerged up to 1 metre for 30 minutes. Pretty awesome and they even look good and professional.
Their 1 con is they don't have power point plugs. simply the red and black wire coming from the unit. That isn't much of a problem. You can simply wire them to a AC power adapter rated at 40w+. Carefully wrap electrical tape over the cable connections and plug in/turn on. So very powerful. The more powerful the adapter the more you can attach, while still using only one powerpoint.
You can for a few dollars buy plugs to attach the wires to. So they plug neatly into power adapters if you want them to look neater. Really there's a lot of flexibility. I even have dimmers on mine for a few extra dollars. They of course come in various levels of intensity like 10, 40, 80w. 3 of the 30w ones in my tall 55 planted is overkill so i use dimmers while maintaining full spread.
As you can see each one takes about 15 minutes more to setup than a floodlight out of the box. Cost wise they are just as cheap as outdoor floodlights with a hardier build quality and i've not had one stop working on me yet. Mine also came with a 3 year warranty. Definitely getting more.
Hope you read this. Love the channel. I went back to the beginning and watched every single video in order. Took a while. Thank you for providing Bee well.
Heres a link to the same type as what i got.
www.ebay.com.au/itm/8x-4INCH-30W-CREE-LED-WORK-LIGHT-BAR-Flood-Spot-OFFROAD-4WD-SUV-ATV-CAR-LAMP-12V-/112192216658?hash=item1a1f2d5e52:g:9yoAAOSwux5YRiX0
Congratulations on the write up in Aquarium hobbyist. Good experiment. Wish you could compare spectrum as i had some die off from plants under another brand of cheaper led. Good video bro
+Dee From Brooklyn me too I know there is more than we can see spectrum wise. So just being as bright or close and seemingly the same color aren’t complete indicators. And I’ve read that some plants can adjust to some degree. But it’s sure hard to know for certain. I’ll be sure to update on how these do.
Very informative. Thanks for doing this video. Cheers.
Good video. I'm going to have to pick up the flood light. I don't think you can beat that price point.
I personally use a LED shop light that I found at Sam's Club. For $36 you get a Honeywell 48" 5000k LED at 42w it's rated at 4500 luman and they are linkable so you only need one timer and one plug. It is by far the best light I've found for my 4ft wide breeding rack. The light looks natural and for under $150 I can light all 4 shelves. That's 3 20 highs, 10 10gal and a 29gal.
I really like these side by side comparisons. It will be interesting to see this long term. I set up 16 tanks in my fish room with high end light tapes almost a year ago and the plant growth is great, with little heat and no problems. Lighting all 16 cost me $160.00 total.
high end tapes? Tell me more or send a link. I'd like to see those.
CRI > 95% 5050 tapes they come in UV, 10K and a number of other varieties. I made a few videos on them if you are interested.
Buying kessils for a planted tank one has to be nuts. These flood lights are the bang for the buck. Thanks for the video.
Thanks so much for the info.. I really enjoy your videos!!
+Amy Bennett thanks!
i run two of the 30 Watt flood lights on my 120 gallon tank. They replaced my old T8 lighting for about one year now. Both lights still work great. My plants grow very well and the algae i used to have are pretty much history now. The light and shadow game in my tank is just amazing. And if i ever get tired of it i order a third light so the tank gets a more evenly lightning.
If you won't mind me asking, 60Watts in total for 120 gallons? Am I missing something here? That is like half a watt per gallon. I know that this system of watts/gallon is obsolete but still, I mean to some extent, it must have a little relevance. I am really intrigued man. Can you post a photo of your aquarium with the aforementioned light, please?
I have a 40 gallon and use 120 Watt CFL bulbs (30W each) and it is still medium light and really struggle to grow high light plants. If what you are saying is workable, then this means that I can have a 15watt LED light and have happy plants. What do you reckon ?
I just purchased 2 of the 30w for my 75 gl planted tank. I currently have them about 7 inches above the water level which is 20 inches above the substrate.
How far above the water mark do you have yours, and do you have ground cover plants?
I had three 4 foot t5 sunblasters and the plants were growing like crazy but I didn't like how much they obscured the open top of the tank which is quite pretty and enjoyable to view.
Thanks peck! Definitely going to get flood lights next time I start a planted tank.
That Flood Light rocks!!!! not too shabby
Thanks. In the UK on Amazon UK they go under the name of Gosun Super Bright 30W LED Floodlight and sell for about £24. I think I will give one a go not much to loose. I just need my glass lid first.
You should try a lumini light . I have a couple of them bought on amazon for about the same price . Pretty good light with a remote.
Very nice comparison of lights brother. We have seen and compared the rate and light output. But what was the effect on plants after long run? Which light is good in terms of plant growth. How was the pearling under both lights?
Thanks in advance brother. Keep uploading such helpful videos.👌
And realy cool tshirt👌
Sick t-shirt dude!
so these lights have without a doubt, better penetration into deep tanks than all the current led aquarium lights like nicrew or aquaneat... thanks for this video
I have a kessil a80 tuna sun on a 7.5g high tech planted tank, love it, am growing high light plants no prob.
Any significantly bright light on any tank that is less then 10 gallons would be considered highlight lmao
I spent quite a bit of time trying to find lighting for a 30" tall tank too. Considered Kessils, had the same experience with the floodlights, and tried double stacking some finnex lights.
I've had good results with SB reef fresh water lights! I'd recommend them to people who need to punch through a lot of water, but CO2 seems to be a must since PAR levels drop off significantly as you go deeper.
hey , so u r saying halogen flood lights are okay for plants?
i heard that they dont produce the blue and red spectrum that plants mostly need?
I switched to a led flood for my nursery tank, it's cheap n cheerfully I also used hdpe milk bottle tops to get the colour to my taste, I wld recommend them :)
What do you do with extra aquarium strip lights? I am converting one to a hanging worklight over my hobby workbench. The light is perfect for model making. So, rather than trying lights and accumulating a few high end things under the stairs in storage..I have recycled the light and can swap out with others as I go...up here we don’t have the ready selection ..and prices are high..
Hi I recently bought these floodlights..... would you say the frosted front has an effect on the light?
I was experimenting with LED lightning fixtures since 2013. Build some myself, but always wanted to try the Kessil A360WE. I love it, Yes I like the shimmer, not everybody does. But it is the best simulation of how real sunlight behaves. There's a lot of hate towards Kessil, I don't get that. if you don't like them, who cares, nobody forces you to buy it :).
And I don't think Kessil is overpriced, I built high-end fixtures for my 55 tall and ended up spending € 450,00. The A360WE cost me € 500, just € 50,00 more and I enjoy it way more than I enjoyed my other LED fixtures.
A Chinese grow light panel will blow multiple Kessel away for half the price of 1 ! I have had 1 running on a 125 for 3 years and it's awesome.
@pecktec Longevity update. Bought my flood lights in the beginning of May. Now Fed 2nd and zero issues with them.
Yeap I got three after this video and they are still running also.
I have a suggestion for small ripariums: GE medium base non-dimmable 90w equivalent basic led outdoor floodlight. You can't easily pop off the diffusor like you can with the smaller household lights, so you have to cut them off with a saw or a rotary tool like a dremmel. The leds themselves have a built in lens directly over them that converts the light into a spot light if you remove the diffusor cap. I use 3 of these 3 feet above my 20gal long riparium, and 2 of them roughly 2 feet above the water in my narrow but tall paludarium, and they work very well. I think they're like 15 bucks for 2 of them.
Hello Thanks for the vedio please I would like an advise I have juwel 350L Rio line which comes with multilux led lights since i am about to plant my aquarium and it is 1st time to plant aquarium does such light good for low to medium tec plants . Thanks a lot
Every time I've seen tanks with that "kessil shimmer" in person, it's made me motion sick/dizzy, so really having less shimmer is a good thing to me.
Visually they really compare, light wise. I agree though I would be concerned about the heat. Do not know if that's what you are paying for with high end, for peace of mind having fans inside? Thanks for this comparison, very useful and a lot to think about. hope you managed to get that sump donated! :) Keep up the great work, you are an invaluable source of information! Cheers
Hi I'm buying a 150 cm and 55 cm high aquarium and I want to add two led lights that I've seen from China of 4500 lm rgb has power consumption of 90 watts with 160 leds lights,what do you recommend me as I spending the money on a light for scaping
My problem with Kessil is how many you need just to get a tank fully lit up. By the time you have the coverage of an LED bar you have spent like 10x more when getting Kessil lights. The fact they also don't even come with the gooseneck too....
I really think Kessil is overrated and overpriced for the light coverage you get.
ag.floats XR buying a Kessil is like buying an iPhone over an android. At the end is just quality. And they are really keeping that hipe up about Kessil being so great. :) sadly they are right. I hope nobody buys them, so that prices go down.
@@franciscoo.8656 I never heard about kessil lamps among aquascapers. The real high end lamps in LED are ONF and ADA.
I found it on ebay (23 Nov 2019), exact light listed as 30w Cree LED chips floodlight, waterproof, outdoor security lights
Most aquarist product are just more expensive versions of stuff that's already out there. The aquarium hobby is out to gouge your wallet. It's a capitalist dream. Why do you think they tell you to feed your fish so much on food labels? Those same companies often sell pH balance, nitrate removers, ammonia removers. Before you know it you have the whole line of crap you don't really need. The aquarist hobby is a pro at selling you over priced things you don't need. Great vid. There is always a better alternative to aquarium "specific" items.
Developed by Stanford science graduates. In other words, a bunch of guys in debt to their eyeballs. LMFAO
Great point
The companies aren't as bad as the idiots online forums spewing garbage about how you have to spend the most money to have the best aquarium. You'd think all these "hobbyists" are working for the companies but majority aren't
I have a tank wich is 7ft long and 2.5ft deep and 2.5 ft wide, does a 50 watts floodlights will work?
In the perspective of the fish, is it comfortable to be bombarded by these bright lights? For the plants the lights might be significant but fish tend to live in somewhat clear water although murky habitats in the wild. I understand that as pets we should attain a home for these animals that is as close as possible to their natural settings yet at the same time we house them in unnatural situations.
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Kessil also makes a smaller less expensive light. I would add that to mix. I also have a par meter you can borrow. The smaller kessils do not get hot even without heat sink.
Hi Sean! You mention making an LED light bar around the 3:00 mark. I looked at your other vids and couldn't find any that referenced that. I probably over looked it, but in any case, do you have a link to the LED light bar build that you did for the aquarium over your left shoulder?
Yes so many videos now. The title was DIY LED Light bar.
Thank you, sir! Great vids by the way. No nonsense, the way comparison vids should be.
Lol well some are no nonsense. Some are nutty but hopefully fun to watch. The one I sent you too has a clone of myself in it I think soooooo....
I'm just glad I got my kessil tuna sun with the adapter and the spectrum controller for $150, pretty great deal if you ask me
I've got a 60 tall planted I was looking to light with some of these lights and actually came across your review on Amazon, I said to my self "Wonder if he's got a video up?" and sure enough.
thinking about getting two of these, little skittish about the heat though, they'll be going under a hood.
I purchased a used Kessil Purple H150(32 watts) for $50 w/gooseneck included. Not worth $50.. Kessil LED's are WAY OVERPRICED! And puts out quite a bit of heat for 32 watts! Thanks for the video. Now others can see the extreme difference. Primarily in the price!
To be perfectly honest, and to each their own... I like the look in the tank from the cheap light over the Kessel.
The thing that burns out in the standard Chinese floodlights is the cheap LED drivers they use, (Similar to a ballast on fluorescent lights) you can get replacements on eBay for around $5+ but you do still have to open up the back of the light and replace it, which is time-consuming. I do still have a few that have been running around three years now, I would put them at 70%/30% on reliability. These new Cree driven lights look allot more reliable and a step up, as far as the heat issue you can just pick up one of those $10 clip on fans to blow accross it or them. Congrats on your article, looking for my new edition of TFH in the mail.
I love my kessil a360 tuna sun, and I got it on Ebay for 68% less, which helps a lot. It runs very cold, which is good because heat is a light-killer. I'm not sure how to do it, but apparently you can rig up a laptop fan to cool things like a floodlight :) maybe that could help the floodlight run better
Thanks for the comparison, what type of short plants in the foreground you have in your planted tank?
Some of those are crypt Parva
Okay so I have a question. I have a 15 gallon column With a basic T5, and because it is so deep I am having trouble getting plants near the bottom to take well. So do you know of any type of light within the 50 to 80 dollar range that will do well penetrating over two feet of water that can fit over a 13" wide aquarium?
The LEDS seem to penetrate the water better.
I replaced my ancient T8 lighting with a 20W 6500K 2400lm flood light above my 14g. My plants started pearling within an hour of turning it on. They never did that with the T8.
The important thing is to avoid COB LED and go with SMD. SMD doesn't generate as much heat (so the housing can be thinner), and it won't die on you that fast. Heat kills LEDs.
Dominic H. Do you think that the lights you mentioned would be good for a planted tropical vivarium? Sadly, there is not much about these lights in the terrarium comunity...
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I have no idea. With 2 additional months of use now, I can say that the light is pretty underwhelming. The difference is marginal at best. My Eleocharis started carpeting, but at a glacial pace, and the Monte Carlo growth hasn't improved at all.
Lumen - which is nothing more than the visible brightness of a light source - is absolutely useless in determining whether the light will be good for plant growth.
Thank you for the quick response! Sad to hear that. So would a higher W help, or would it just increase the Lumen?
Only one measurement unit is directly responsible for showing the useful amount of light for plants, and that's PAR (Photosynthetically Active Radiation). There are numerous light sources that have the PAR value on their box beside lumen or lux, I've seen them on Fluval lights for example.
There is no other measurement unit that would even vaguely tell you what it does for plants. I'd highly suggest buying fluorescent lights instead of LED lights, because fluorescent lights generally have a more balanced color spectrum output that eventually determines the light source's usefulness for photosynthesis, LEDs can be wildly different.
Thank you! I will start learning about PAR and then decide what would be the best solution. You really helped me save some money!
Can I use this light for Biorb Life 45L?
Is it effective for the colour of the red plants?
I hardly see a difference except the color and shimmy. This just answered my question - going to build a bar with a couple of those floods!
i use LED flood lights for years 3 x 100 w in my 250 gallon tank and is heavy planted. The plants doing very well. Not sure if is worth the money to spend money on expensive brand as they do pretty much same thing. It is preference and if you can afford it.
I use 5 of the cheap 100 watt led flood lamps on my 36 inch tall reef tank. I just went on eBay and bought the 30k chips and replaced the old ones that came with the cheap flood lamps. All in under 200 bucks. You don't have to always spend big bucks for big results. Check out my tank on line and you will agree with me. I don't get scared on pricing. I just do tons of research and diy!!!! Its not like I have a money tree in my back yard so I do what I can where I can to enjoy the hobby. Good luck to all diy guys. I hope you have the same and better success as I have
The flood light is designed for outdoors applications, where the ambient temperature is much lower than indoors and inside the aquarium, hence no cooling fan but you could add any laptop style fan from Rapid for a low cost then you would get a much longer lamp life for the flood light.
Looking at the two, I would say the Kessil does look slightly better, the flood light puts in an impressive showing though! I'm so impressed with the flood light I've gone and bought a couple for my experimental tank :D. For the cost the flood light is a fantastic lighting option; assuming it lasts.
hey , so u r saying halogen flood lights are okay for plants?
i heard that they dont produce the blue and red spectrum that plants mostly need?
I have the Kessils (for reeftank) and I just love them. Specialy with the spectrum controler (that for me is a must have - maybe not so much for a fresh water although is very nice - specially if you love technology). The only thing that I don’t like is the cords management. I have the gooseneck and the cords are just attached to it. Not that nice for a light on this price range. Regarding the flood light I do not know it but I had some bad experiences with this type of lights (plants didn’t like them). But was a different brand so not much to say (apparently there are people with successful results so maybe these ones are good). Good luck with your new project.
I love the Kessil I put on the cube. But this tank is so big I don't think I can afford to light it with them. So Im making sure there arn't any other options.
pecktec yeah that’s true!
Considering the heat produced by the Amazon light would it be wise to put it in side of a canopy?
I think it would be easy and advisable to add a PC "muffin" fan.
The new model of floodlight looks way better than the old one. With 6 LEDs versus 1 it should last longer too. Thanks for bring it up to us Sean.
hey , so u r saying halogen flood lights are okay for plants?
i heard that they dont produce the blue and red spectrum that plants mostly need?
Probably a stupid question so I want 200w on my tank does that mean I need enough units adding up to 200w total or each unit should be 200w
Lol wtf
How many hours a day are your lights on?
Awesome video !
Thank you
Most go about 6 - 8 hours. The new ones where I can control the intensity throughout the day go much longer.
Stand for floodlight? Suggestions would be helpful. Thanks for research.
Well what I’ve noticed is they all have holes for mounting so it will be great in a cabinet. Or cleverly attached to a pole from there.
Is this the light that Cory from Aquarium Co-Op did a par test with not long ago? If so the par test he did was pretty good on it you might look that video up if you have not seen it. (it might have been on his second channel)
Yes, i saw that test too.Cory used a 30w led floodlight.
The par produced by the floodlight was higher than the kessil even when used in the bottom of a giant 800 g tank.
Cory was extremely surprised with the aftermath.
I know it’s been a while. Just curious how long the flood light lasted?
They never burnt out. I eventually took the tank down and didn’t use them on the next project but they worked fairly well. I would recommend mounting them on something as they do get hot.
Hey @pecktec, or anyone else-do you know of any suitable substitutes for this light? I've looked high and low all over the internet and can't find one that matches this and this model is either DCed or sold out everywhere. Most look like those gaudy old ones you showed earlier. Love the low pro look of these and 6000k temp and cree LEDs.
amazon link is dead for this flood light
@@winkymoj116 found on ebay, see my comment here, (sorry puter is jacked up, cant copy and paste??)
Wow,. great information. Thanks! Do you think there is any danger in leaving the cree led directly on the glass cover?
+Lisa C I think for liability reasons I’d have to say don’t do that. I’m doing it now but I really need to make something to hang them with.
+Lisa C be very careful of the plastic bracing in the center part (if your tank has it) my light bar melted a divot in mine.
Thanks for the insight!
Thank you!
The $30 because of the wider surface area have a wider beam, but the kesil have a sharper look to,the light. A lot depends on the quality of the circuits. Turn the lights on and off is where the stress on the electronics is, and also the heat. I would start with the chapter lighr,and then buy the kesil
So I came back here, after buying what looks like the exact same light you have. Though they don't exist on amazon anymore. All the brands are just bulk ordered from alibaba and "Branded" different when you order enough. Either way.. I have two of these 30 watt cree floods on a 30 gallon planted with C02 injection and it grows like crazy. Now I don't have high light plants, mostly grasses, moss anacaris, baby tear ect. I have to trim every 3 weeks because they grow out the top of the tank... They have been going strong for over 4 years now, 8 hours a day.
I need another light for my 10 gallon. I had a cheap aquaneat LED light that was 15 dollars on amazon, but it got wet and stopped working. lasted 6 months. I'm sad I can't find these anymore!
Is this Cree light still in service?? Looking for a cheap light for my planted tank
Yeah I got three they are doing great.
Pretty amazing how at least in appearance the lights had practically no difference.
I’ve used cheap floodlights on my tanks for years …I’ve never been into plants but the lighting effect and the shimmer is amazing for the money compared to t5 bulbs and led bars ….I’ve got two fluval plant led bars on top of my tank I never even turn on because I prefer the two $8 30w floodlights I have on
Regular bulbs and bars with no shimmer make a tank look flat
Do you have a link or anything to the spots you use?...I'm after a couple to go over my 3ft tank and don't want to spend a fortune!
Hey Sean ! I like that Endlers Guppy male you have and that very pretty platy too. As to the lights, well is that short corded built in fan more expensive model light on the top has those features like dimmer and timer and colour intensity manual or pre programmed or automatic ? Cause if it is manual then it's useless. Cause I'm not going to dimming it 1 hour in the morning nor at night and to change the colour. Also as timer or can be put on a timer or again if it's only manual then useless. But the 30W flood light look better and brighter then that expensive 40W with useless gadgets. So going back on pricing and the need for things : Almost anything you can make your own from starting the aquarium to all necessary equipment that you need for it. I'm not going to list them just watch Joeys videos. But if you by them then it cost you 3-5 times more cause they know you using it for the hobby. As we all know this hobby is a luxury hobby and as hobby is concerned is one of the most expensive you can have and takes all your time and money and energy and effort and sometimes fish dies plants and algae etc and you give up cause to be successful you need years of experience what you can't learn from videos nor books. In most cases sadly on the fishes and pants account as they die we learn till we get it right if you haven't give up. But as long as your money holds out no problem cause people spend ridiculous amount of money on disco and strobe lights that changes colour and can play music if you hook it up right. I mean the most useless things and costing 500$ or more. Hey even castles that is in the hundreds and after 2 months over run with algae and brown smudge and you throw it out cause you don't want to clean it or you do and use harsh chemicals then your fishes dies. There is many things like the CLR that Sean need to use on his glass top to clean the calcium deposit on it so the light can penetrate to the bottom of his tank ! lol May be I should write a book on this subject lol. Nah people like to read now days like Sean likes to read the instruction that comes with the equipment. lol
PS: May be you can utilise the heat coming from the light if you put like 4 of them on the big tank. In the winter comes handy !
Gabor P try a 25g salt water i belive the fresh is a steal compared!
If you are using this would love update videos on plant growth and the such
Hum that might be an option for my 21 tall 18 wide 20 gallon heavy planted scarlet badis tank
so the kessil looks better to me but the pricepoint on the floodlight is point in favor for it but if the heat is really bad then on one tank its fine but if you have a fishroom full of tanks with those then it might be for of an issue
i think personally i would go with the kessils but if you do have a tighter budget then i totally see why you would go with the floodlights
Hey do you think this would work for 15 gallon saltwater tank? I've wanted to get a better light on it for awhile now.
Probably a fish only one. They have different colors also if you want bluer ones.
Cool thanks
What are magazines?
This old thing people used to read in the bathroom.
U didn't mention about one main thing ??
Is it regular led flood light or full spectrum white led flood light ??
Yes it is. It’s a cool white.
So if I ripped out the guts from a T8 plastic hood and mounted three floodlights into it, would it melt?
I have a plastic hood with a hot 250 watt metal halide in it that hasn't melted yet.
Interesting comparison. I don't *see* much difference, but there might be quite a difference in the light reaching the plants in wavelengths we don't see. A PAR comparison would be really interesting. I wonder if your local club has a meter that can be borrowed.
I almost broke down and got one. But more and more I hear thats not such a great tool either.
@pecktec Were 5 years down the line now, how did those floodlights fare?
I’m still using one of them on the plants in my sump. So I would say good.
@@pecktec Thanks for responding! So they did last quite a while then, that's interesting to hear. Sadly that 'brand' seems to have disappeared from the market. :( Any word on the street about what the current goto floodlight would be?
Sorry after I got these I haven’t needed anymore. Just be cautious. I’m sure if I took these apart I wouldn’t find quality workmanship.
Get the rgb flood lights so you get a wider spectrum of light ... works great on my reef tank
I run all my 9 planted fishtanks on floodlights, love how cheap & bright they're ... The only bad part is that my room (where I keep most of them) is just like an oven, those lights get quite hot
+Ricardo Ortiz I’d like a link for that! I’m having trouble finding some.
Check out Kevin Novak's video on his version of the "Poor man's Kessil" He has come up with a lighting system that is just as good as a Kessil for a fraction of the price and it looks really nice above a tank.
The colour temperature of the LEDs affects the CRI (Colour Rendering Index) so the cooler the temperature i.e. 6000k will wash out the colour of the plants and fish apart from the blue colours, the Kessel will enhance the greens and reds down at 3000K so if you like the blue look go flood lights, if you want lush greens and reds go Kessel or buy a 3000K flood light and get the best of both worlds for a much lower cost.
Hey man! What are the dimensions of the Chinese cree fixture? I want to see if I can fit one in my fluval chi hood! Thanks in advance.
5.5 x 4.5 x 4ish L x W x H
Horticulture t5ho are the way to go. Best price. Made specifically to grow plants. And they are cheap. Check out sunblaster. I get 4 footers for $60 locally and they include a 6400k bulb.
Bulbs that need to be replaced every 6 months, which gets pricey over the years of a tank. Also far more energy over the life of the tank.
Domt need to replace them every 6 months more like a year+ they are proven, give better spread, and have the option to mix color temps. They are only 54 watts. So maybe and extra dollar a year over a 30 watt led flood.