Is Majka injured? Seems like a bad decision to leave him off the Tour squad considering his consistency in the mountains and his unwavering commitment to working for Pogi. Ayuso and Almeida are talented though inconsistent.
I'm not the first in these comments to wish for daily TdF analysis videos from Dan Lloyd. He managed to squeeze in pivotal race highlights and tactical analysis in 13+ minutes, whereas the entire commentary team at Peacock had a 7+ hour broadcast to do the same and fell short at many key moments. RIP GCN+ for race broadcasts but really glad to have access to the GCN+ Originals again via the subscription platform. Totally worth it.
Thank you for the compliment. It's always easier to do good analysis when the dust has settled and you have time to dissect everything. Hopefully we'll find a way to do daily analysis in the future, but for the time being I'll do my best with this weekly show. Dan
Pog attacked almost at the top of the climb when the gradients had eased up, so we shouldn't read too much into his inability to distance Vingegaard. At most, it shows that Jonas is not uncompetitive, as many had speculated he could be.
We have yet to see how jonas is in the high mountains but we'll see tomorrow. 23km climb over 2600m. That's a serious climb. Seeing him with Pogi on stage 2 was good to see tho. It's a sign he's good but will he be good enough to fight for yellow for 3 weeks? I think he will 🤘🏻🏴
So with the mention of Cillian Kelly and his stats at 9:51, does that mean he's back at GCN? He posted on X/Twitter that he was no longer at GCN last month and looking for a job. Hoping he's back with a more expanded job at GCN.
Stage 2 coverage on the last climb is terrible. They should have 4 split screen to see where they are and the guy who won the race. Because we can't really see what happen with the other contender.
that was never in the cards in my opinion, you could see last year he not on that level isnt he also just too old now so its going the wrong direction from him?
Need i remind everyone, last year Pog had a very interrupted preparation for the tour, yet for a week and a half he matched Vinegar, and indeed at one stage dropped him. Only to be found wanting for true condition in the last half. This will happen with Vinegar, only he can't drop Pog. Wouldn't get carried away kiddies!
Jonas and Visma team are doppers! Cheaters! I always said it and today in the live stream they found a spectator from Denmark who bragged about how he knows Jonas very good from teenage years when they rode together for local teams but then unintentionally ousted Jonas saying that he was always below average rider who constantly got dropped and then started getting really good after he was 18. Hahaha, I knew it. You can make a case against Tadej, but Tadej was always extraordinary. He had to compete in categories higher to have challenge. I raced in Slovenia, Austria and Italy in the 90s and you'd never see a champ coming out of being average. I was never average and all those that were champion material, we'd never get dropped. The fact that Jonas suddenly rose to power and fame is just the Visma LAB thing. Lab specifically. It's very obvious, but lots of fresh cyclists are popping up following this sport and thus they're easily impressed and persuaded that Jonas is a special guy, that Wout is a special guy, that Roglic is a special guy, that Jorgenson is a special guy. That the entire Visma from 2022 and 2023 were amazing! Sure, amazing at gobbling concoctions from their LAB. Ain't no way Wout who's from a completely different world, cyclocross can perform at such high speeds as road cyclist specialists and sprinters. No way Roglic comes into cycling way late from a completely unrelated sport discipline and under Jumbo becomes a champ of road racing. Talent? Sure, but much more science than talent is the game here. And Jonas from cold ass Denmark performs amazing in heat and gets better in the 3rd week of grand Tours. A bunch of garbage masking the fact he's dopped up because his team director is greedy as shit!!! And their dirty racing is disgusting. Last Tour they forced the peloton to wait for their injured riders who were not even GC while they had Wout in the breakaway who wasn't slowing down. When Jonas saw that Tadej was in pain from his wrist injury and was shaking his hand after they reached the top of a climb Wout and Jonas started accelerating into the descent and started dropping Tadej. Total BS team and they finally got their karma this year. And now they're tryina spy and stalk their contenders w/ their stupid van. Ugh, never despised anybody as much as I do them and their weasel Jonas who pretends to be humble and is everything but that for those that have the eyes to see. I could back anybody to win over Tadej but not this guy. Something's off about him ever since he got onto the scene and that's why the general consensus in the peloton is that nobody cares about him. Most tolerate him and that's it. And stop trying to brainwash me how Danes are just such humble quiet people. Blah, blah, blah. I said when Kuss won Vuelta that Visma will fall apart. You can't be so greedy to dope up everybody and then have too many top dogs racing for Jonas only. Kuss got a taste of fame and victory and that was enough. He don't want to waste his prime years to make others famous anymore. They made a huge mistake by letting him win. It was their downfall. And they should have never forced Primoz and Wout to be super domestiques. They trained them to be winners, so they're not happy to grind themselves to dust for others. It doesn't work that way.
The big question is can Jonas do the same in week 3? Pogi can! I really hope Jonas can, we don't need a repeat of the Giro which was great racing among the minions but Pogi was, as we know, head and shoulders above them.
Marvellous analyses Dan, much appreciated are your acute insights here, and thank you for educating a fan like myself… looking forward to more of these as the tour, classics and other things move into the future… thanks again.
people forget that this was how jonas won the last 2 tours - let pogi have the upper hand and overwork himself in the earlier parts of the race, and then creep up on him in the third week
In a way I am sure that this win by Bardet and van den Broek will remain the nicest , the most beautiful thing happening in this whole TdF -- for me personally !
Is the athor way around is pogachar is the one who is in his limid if pogachar was strong why he didn't atak the beginning the clim vingegaard look good is pogachar who is in back foot Insha Allah jonasvingagaar is going to win 🏆 the 💪 🏆 toure de france 🏆 💪 🇫🇷 2024 Insha Allah
All Pogačar did was test Vingegaard and see if he would follow him. That was a 40% Pogačar attack...Wait until week 2 and 3 to see his full strength and leave Vingegaard behind ;)
It would be embarrassing to lose to a rider who broke his collar bone, his shoulder blade, four ribs and a punctured lung staying in the ICU for 12 days, not even 3 months ago.
No he didnt want to pull cause pogacar would use that to attack him after he would pull. Ofc if vingegaard felt extremely confident maybe he would have done that, but maybe not even as he has tried that before and it backfires to pull pogacar. IE 6 stage last year.
Astana needs to learn to position themselves better. It feels like they always sleep when they should be getting space. They were trying, some elbows and shoulders were traded but they need to react earlier, not in the last 10k.
That's exactly what my comment was about also. By the 10km banner every sorint team was in position and pulling even GC teams were organised in the front also but I looked for Astana and they were scattered all through out the peloton. NO organisation 🤘🏻🏴
In my opinion, Abrahamsen may cope well with the shorter climbs; when they hit the real long climbs it will be a different story. Until then, he shines.
Does the future of the tour allow room for sprinters bikes? It just looks like bicycle design is moving away from sprinters bikes. I am sure my statement is wrong. Who is going to sprint at 60 psi and 28 tires?
The peleton should do Cavendish a favour and gift him an easy stage, so he can own the record and withdraw as looks beaten. Unless! Its all a bluff and he comes flying out in Stage Four and absolutely obliterates with his Astana team! The sooner he has a crack at the record, the better for the race as we can focus on other storylines for upcoming cyclists, tactics. Plus Astana can focus on having a proper crack at other goals
But as for now the teams MAIN focus us is on Cav and getting him that #35!! They are all on board with it. It's the team goal. They came into the Tour knowing this was the primary objective!! Cavs real chances are stages 3, 6, 10, 16 🤘🏻🏴 🤘🏻🏴
Its a good "sign". That's all it is. It says he's good enough today. Tomorrow is 23km climb over 2600m elevation. That's HIGH mountains. A solid battle will take place there. I think he'll be very competitive tomorrow and probably be strong enough to battle for yellow all the way to Nice 🤘🏻🏴
@WerdnaLiten you and 99% of the population could train for it all you want and you still won't come anywhere near being able to do it. So yes, you should be surprised.
@@Andy_ATB because it's impressive. Some people try very hard and can't even hope to come close to these guys. And even before they started their crazy training regimens, they would still be instantly dropping all the rest of us mere mortals.
@@gcnracingI was actually going to commend you for doing it so well (at least the first couple times in the video - then I stopped paying any attention to phonetics). Doing it better requires learning how “stød” works, which is apparently really, really hard for foreigners ;)
What are your thoughts after the first weekend of the Tour de France 2024? 🇫🇷
#EPIC but geo-fencing TdF live *sucks & blows*
1:00 - is that a (bad) luck, nutrition or the bikes?
It's been hot and eerie so far.
Is Majka injured? Seems like a bad decision to leave him off the Tour squad considering his consistency in the mountains and his unwavering commitment to working for Pogi. Ayuso and Almeida are talented though inconsistent.
@@LovetheIPAs I believe not. The squad was announced a few weeks ago.
Vingegaard said that he didnt want to pull on the counter hill since we felt sure that if he did Pogi would attempt to attack again.
Good move then?
I'm not the first in these comments to wish for daily TdF analysis videos from Dan Lloyd. He managed to squeeze in pivotal race highlights and tactical analysis in 13+ minutes, whereas the entire commentary team at Peacock had a 7+ hour broadcast to do the same and fell short at many key moments. RIP GCN+ for race broadcasts but really glad to have access to the GCN+ Originals again via the subscription platform. Totally worth it.
Thank you for the compliment. It's always easier to do good analysis when the dust has settled and you have time to dissect everything. Hopefully we'll find a way to do daily analysis in the future, but for the time being I'll do my best with this weekly show. Dan
We're super happy to have to you on as a member 🙌 That's a great idea, how about a racing podcast?
Missing sooo much
Pog attacked almost at the top of the climb when the gradients had eased up, so we shouldn't read too much into his inability to distance Vingegaard. At most, it shows that Jonas is not uncompetitive, as many had speculated he could be.
We have yet to see how jonas is in the high mountains but we'll see tomorrow. 23km climb over 2600m. That's a serious climb. Seeing him with Pogi on stage 2 was good to see tho. It's a sign he's good but will he be good enough to fight for yellow for 3 weeks? I think he will
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Jonas tried to play the media and say he’s not sure if he’s in shape… clearly he’s ready to win 😂
He's looking so strong ... we're in for a big battle!
Missing your commentary Dan ☹️ replaced currently by someone with no experience of le tour 🤦♂️
Any chance of Dan slipping into some daily stage commentary? In podcast form maybe?
Sounds like a cool idea! We'll see what we can do 👀
👀👀👀ohh plsss
The organizers should create a new "mutant" jersey in addition to th yellow one.
3 stage bini Girmay amazing brilliant move against famous sprinter victory to entire Africa 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
So cool! He had us on the edge of our seats at GCN HQ
I am missing strongly Lloydy's commentations at the Eurosport Breakaway 😕
Me too!
Same, real shame, best commentary on eurosport for a long time.
You can fill your boots with Lloydy here 🙌
So with the mention of Cillian Kelly and his stats at 9:51, does that mean he's back at GCN? He posted on X/Twitter that he was no longer at GCN last month and looking for a job. Hoping he's back with a more expanded job at GCN.
Stage 2 coverage on the last climb is terrible. They should have 4 split screen to see where they are and the guy who won the race. Because we can't really see what happen with the other contender.
Was Surprised to see Roglic Dropped, Thought he would push to let pog & Vinge know he is up for the challenge.
that was never in the cards in my opinion, you could see last year he not on that level isnt he also just too old now so its going the wrong direction from him?
Also he had no teammates to help him bring back the gap.
I don't expect Roglic to podium
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We're sure he'll bounce back! Never count him out 👀
@@TESTA-CC Roglic didn't do "bad" today but I feel strong about him NOT finishing on the podium
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Need i remind everyone, last year Pog had a very interrupted preparation for the tour, yet for a week and a half he matched Vinegar, and indeed at one stage dropped him. Only to be found wanting for true condition in the last half. This will happen with Vinegar, only he can't drop Pog. Wouldn't get carried away kiddies!
Vingegaards injuries are much worse.
It's early days! But we're in for a fun race
"Vinegar" ? 😂
Jonas and Visma team are doppers! Cheaters! I always said it and today in the live stream they found a spectator from Denmark who bragged about how he knows Jonas very good from teenage years when they rode together for local teams but then unintentionally ousted Jonas saying that he was always below average rider who constantly got dropped and then started getting really good after he was 18.
Hahaha, I knew it. You can make a case against Tadej, but Tadej was always extraordinary. He had to compete in categories higher to have challenge.
I raced in Slovenia, Austria and Italy in the 90s and you'd never see a champ coming out of being average. I was never average and all those that were champion material, we'd never get dropped. The fact that Jonas suddenly rose to power and fame is just the Visma LAB thing. Lab specifically. It's very obvious, but lots of fresh cyclists are popping up following this sport and thus they're easily impressed and persuaded that Jonas is a special guy, that Wout is a special guy, that Roglic is a special guy, that Jorgenson is a special guy. That the entire Visma from 2022 and 2023 were amazing!
Sure, amazing at gobbling concoctions from their LAB. Ain't no way Wout who's from a completely different world, cyclocross can perform at such high speeds as road cyclist specialists and sprinters. No way Roglic comes into cycling way late from a completely unrelated sport discipline and under Jumbo becomes a champ of road racing. Talent? Sure, but much more science than talent is the game here.
And Jonas from cold ass Denmark performs amazing in heat and gets better in the 3rd week of grand Tours. A bunch of garbage masking the fact he's dopped up because his team director is greedy as shit!!!
And their dirty racing is disgusting. Last Tour they forced the peloton to wait for their injured riders who were not even GC while they had Wout in the breakaway who wasn't slowing down. When Jonas saw that Tadej was in pain from his wrist injury and was shaking his hand after they reached the top of a climb Wout and Jonas started accelerating into the descent and started dropping Tadej.
Total BS team and they finally got their karma this year. And now they're tryina spy and stalk their contenders w/ their stupid van. Ugh, never despised anybody as much as I do them and their weasel Jonas who pretends to be humble and is everything but that for those that have the eyes to see. I could back anybody to win over Tadej but not this guy. Something's off about him ever since he got onto the scene and that's why the general consensus in the peloton is that nobody cares about him. Most tolerate him and that's it. And stop trying to brainwash me how Danes are just such humble quiet people. Blah, blah, blah.
I said when Kuss won Vuelta that Visma will fall apart. You can't be so greedy to dope up everybody and then have too many top dogs racing for Jonas only. Kuss got a taste of fame and victory and that was enough. He don't want to waste his prime years to make others famous anymore. They made a huge mistake by letting him win. It was their downfall. And they should have never forced Primoz and Wout to be super domestiques. They trained them to be winners, so they're not happy to grind themselves to dust for others. It doesn't work that way.
Cav nowhere near the front today. Biniam FTW!!!
The big question is can Jonas do the same in week 3? Pogi can! I really hope Jonas can, we don't need a repeat of the Giro which was great racing among the minions but Pogi was, as we know, head and shoulders above them.
Marvellous analyses Dan, much appreciated are your acute insights here, and thank you for educating a fan like myself… looking forward to more of these as the tour, classics and other things move into the future… thanks again.
You know where to come for all the racing highlights 🙌
Love your analysis, among the most unbiased and fair. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Grats on the 500.000 subs! 🎉
No coverage of the Tour de France I used to have? Unsubscribing right now.
The dulcet tones of Dan Lloyd? A podcast sounds like a great idea.
Of course Jonas didn't want to push with pogi and help each other out. Just not fully fit
If only Cav had been at the pointy end. This may have been his best chance. Only Classics hard men in the contest.
people forget that this was how jonas won the last 2 tours - let pogi have the upper hand and overwork himself in the earlier parts of the race, and then creep up on him in the third week
so i guess Racing Downhill with wild abandonment
isn't so cool now!!
He followed tadje..so what
..tadje followed last year and lost.
In a way I am sure that this win by Bardet and van den Broek will remain the nicest , the most beautiful thing happening in this whole TdF -- for me personally !
It's so early to say that!!
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Roglic proving Redbull is shite in a can....
I take it you don't watch MTB; seems to work for them.....
@WerdnaLiten why would anyone watch MTB?
Anderson Amy Taylor Ronald Brown Laura
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Is the athor way around is pogachar is the one who is in his limid if pogachar was strong why he didn't atak the beginning the clim vingegaard look good is pogachar who is in back foot
Insha Allah jonasvingagaar is going to win 🏆 the 💪 🏆 toure de france 🏆 💪 🇫🇷 2024 Insha Allah
Can you just make this type of video after every stage so I don’t have to watch Lance do 30 mins of ads 🤦♂️
Watch Chris Horner daily commentary. Former Vuelta winner.
@@jameswitte5676rather watch adds
Missing you on the breakaway Lloydy
You can get as much Of Lloydy as you want here on GCN Racing and GCN 🙌
where are the highlights?
Evenopol looking good for the ITT. What a chase.
All Pogačar did was test Vingegaard and see if he would follow him. That was a 40% Pogačar attack...Wait until week 2 and 3 to see his full strength and leave Vingegaard behind ;)
It would be embarrassing to lose to a rider who broke his collar bone, his shoulder blade, four ribs and a punctured lung staying in the ICU for 12 days, not even 3 months ago.
@@HolgerDanske874 Definitely not when he's pumped up on juice ;) but of course you're danish so you'll act delusional
No he didnt want to pull cause pogacar would use that to attack him after he would pull. Ofc if vingegaard felt extremely confident maybe he would have done that, but maybe not even as he has tried that before and it backfires to pull pogacar. IE 6 stage last year.
Lease a bike. Wacka wacka.
Great shoutout to Cillian!
So happy to see Jonas still battling . Makes watching the gc even more interesting. Amazing to come back from an injury like that.
He was rocking n rolling cause this course doesn’t suit his power profile. Yet, he was able to quickly apply the breaks to the PogiXpress. 😂
Missing GCN daily TdF analysis😢
Pogacar reported to have had Covid in the build up to the tour may have levelled the playing field a little
He's not showing any signs at the moment 👀
Astana needs to learn to position themselves better. It feels like they always sleep when they should be getting space. They were trying, some elbows and shoulders were traded but they need to react earlier, not in the last 10k.
Astana is a shambles and always have been. Them and Movistar.
That's exactly what my comment was about also. By the 10km banner every sorint team was in position and pulling even GC teams were organised in the front also but I looked for Astana and they were scattered all through out the peloton. NO organisation
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Pidcock tired from playing on his MTB...
I have never had any faith in Pidcock. This is par for the course.
Jonas is doing well
Pogi seems a bit fed up.
How come?
what a Pog's fan boy))) lol
We’re all pog fanboys😎
@@iansemroc8943 no)
In my opinion, Abrahamsen may cope well with the shorter climbs; when they hit the real long climbs it will be a different story. Until then, he shines.
Nothing Abrahamsen doesn't know
Hes just soaking it all in. Doing everything he can. Sprinting for 1 point over a climb. He's having a great time. Let him have his moment
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I love the tour de france 🚲🚲🚲
We do too 🙌
Does the future of the tour allow room for sprinters bikes? It just looks like bicycle design is moving away from sprinters bikes. I am sure my statement is wrong. Who is going to sprint at 60 psi and 28 tires?
What do you mean by sprinters bikes? Bikes are certainly changing, we've spoken about this on our Tech Show 👉th-cam.com/video/WFpLLZp7SKs/w-d-xo.html
The peleton should do Cavendish a favour and gift him an easy stage, so he can own the record and withdraw as looks beaten. Unless! Its all a bluff and he comes flying out in Stage Four and absolutely obliterates with his Astana team! The sooner he has a crack at the record, the better for the race as we can focus on other storylines for upcoming cyclists, tactics. Plus Astana can focus on having a proper crack at other goals
But as for now the teams MAIN focus us is on Cav and getting him that #35!! They are all on board with it. It's the team goal. They came into the Tour knowing this was the primary objective!! Cavs real chances are stages 3, 6, 10, 16
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It’s a bit scary how competitive vingegaard is after those extreme injuries.
The recovery is amazing 🙌Modern recovery has come a long way!
Idk why everyone thinks this one small climb determinesbhow well Ving and Pog are going lol
Its a good "sign". That's all it is. It says he's good enough today. Tomorrow is 23km climb over 2600m elevation. That's HIGH mountains. A solid battle will take place there. I think he'll be very competitive tomorrow and probably be strong enough to battle for yellow all the way to Nice
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Safe to say we need daily post race analysis.....breakaway and commentary just not the same now.
We'll see what we can do 👀
think you'll ever stream races again?
We've got no plans to
I can hold 315W (5W/kg) for a maximum of only ~8 minutes........ These beasts hold that or more for hours.
Well, congrats! I don't think I can do it longer than a minute 😂
Simple - they train for this. That is their job........I never understand why people are so surprised.
@WerdnaLiten you and 99% of the population could train for it all you want and you still won't come anywhere near being able to do it. So yes, you should be surprised.
@@Andy_ATB because it's impressive. Some people try very hard and can't even hope to come close to these guys. And even before they started their crazy training regimens, they would still be instantly dropping all the rest of us mere mortals.
Does one membership cross all GCN channels?
Our membership runs on our GCN main channel but the Docs will cross many genres 🙌
everyone testing out their new ped's
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Vingegaard told the journoes Why he did not pull. Does This guy know nothing?
First comment ❤ Thank you GCN Racing
Pogacar: does something that even ex pros call insane for the millionth time
Everyone: Oh wow he's so good, and clean
Eye roll
If you've followed this sport for a long time you know when you see it. It really is as simple as "if it's too good to be true . . ."
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Please make an effort to pronounce Vingegaard at least somewhat close to what it should be...
I asked him on person when I did a video with him on January, and he said it was almost spot on..... Dan
Your comment aged… interestingly😂
@@gcnracingI was actually going to commend you for doing it so well (at least the first couple times in the video - then I stopped paying any attention to phonetics). Doing it better requires learning how “stød” works, which is apparently really, really hard for foreigners ;)
If you're worried about perfect pronunciation of every single rider's name, then you need your head examined.
@@peterfireflylund Do you maybe have an example word I can look up that has a similar sound?