Man... seeing this just brought tears to my eyes. I remember riding the r30 C train from harlem to Broad Channel to get the A when i was like 5 years old I used to pester my moms and pop to wait until the r30 came just because it was red NYC will never be the same... RIP r44 r38 and r30 I wish i could have shown my children this in real life.
Damn, like I know we glamorize the past with nostalgia and there were sure a lot of bad problems back then, but something about the simplicity of the 80s and 90s just feels like life was way better back then. I'm honored to have grown up in the 90s, but what I wouldn't do to experience that time as an adult.
15:30 INSANE footage of the former Dean street. I did not believe how badly deteriorated that station was. There are rarely any photos available of how it looked post 1981. Seeing this in 1993 is blowing me away. The worn platform, fragile railings and antique like walls look like they resemble the 1910's fulton ave el style elevated stations and was badly falling apart. Plus the station was so close in proximity to the others near it with graffiti everywhere. I read turnstiles were being jumped resulting little to no fares being collected here. So glad footage exists of this.
trainluvr I also like how you recorded all the lights flickering on and off. The new trains must be AC power and these older ones were only DC. How ofter would the trains loose power briefly when moving?
Taken 5 days after my 9th birthday, i was lucky to ride on the R27/R30 one year before retirement on the C train from 167th street to Kingsbridge Road. Sighs memories
It's a shame I never got a chance to ride them when I was young. I was only like 4 when they retired the BMT Redbirds. I grew up by the 1 train so I never got a chance to check out the other lines until high school. I got to ride the IRT redbirds a lot before they were retired in the early 2000s. They were rust buckets by that time, but man those were some beautiful rust buckets!
I just love how the lights on these and other fleets of older cars- including SEPTA with the Almond Joys, would sporadically go out due to the third rail. It’s funny that MTA’s R-32 Budd cars lasted over 24 years long than SEPTA’s M-3 cars.
I’m glad they saved a few R30s, even though the museum right now only has an R30 without a mate. Hopefully we don’t have to suffer another era where an entire Subway class was scrapped, with the last being the R27; the last was scrapped in 2013.
Maserati7200 ...The R30's did not have air conditioning, and retrofitting them would have made the already heavy cars prohibitively heavy. The T. A. Decided that since A.C. was a priority, it was a better idea to just scrap them.... Pity.
Ah...I was only 4 months old when this footage was recorded. Simpler times when everyone wasn't distracted by their smartphones. Also were those people actually throwing down at 23:40 ?! Holy smokes!🤣
The R-32s were roughly three years younger than the R-30s which were retired in 1993 and the R-32s were retired nearly three decades after them in 2022, kinda amazing.
Given that I was born in ‘97, long after these trains were retired, I’m quite surprised to see how much has not changed since this was shot. Most of the train stations have remained unchanged for nearly thirty years, with the Franklin Avenue shuttle line, and Coney Island being the only exceptions. Granted the changes made since then are very subtle, but other than that it’s the same today as it was then.
Anyone know why the lights go out in the cars at 1:53? I remember this also happening on the 7 line heading into the times square station, as well as the N line between 59th st and 8th ave in Brooklyn.
@@eightavmta Yes but the Redbird in this video is a R30 model aka BMT Redbird. The ones that's preserved are IRT Redbirds. Not much different but still ain't quite the same either
Yup I was there in the summer of 94 with my dad but did not enter the station cause it looked super dangerous I was 8 years old at the time so we went to park place instead Dean street closed September 10 1995
Amazing to think that the slightly younger R32s will remain in service until three decades after this was taken
Greg Huang
Imagine the redbirds had air conditioning? Then they would still be here most likely. The overhall failed I hear on Wikipedia.
@@an2niotransitproductions813 nah probably not they were showing their age and the R142/R142A were technologically better in every way
@@trainsgod1042 when did the r142 run on the b division
@@blockvfive1196 they did say Redbirds as a whole sooo
@@trainsgod1042 so r142s didnt run on the b division idk much abt anything
Man... seeing this just brought tears to my eyes. I remember riding the r30 C train from harlem to Broad Channel to get the A when i was like 5 years old
I used to pester my moms and pop to wait until the r30 came just because it was red NYC will never be the same... RIP r44 r38 and r30 I wish i could have shown my children this in real life.
R.A W they retired because it didn't have air conditioning so the TA decided to retire them
Charly L but that's stupid they could have used them for the winter and cold times in the fall
Christopher Dobson
Space is limited though. Coney island Trainyard is packed for example.
@@charlyl9252he didn’t ask that
I am a massive fan of the BMT Redbirds. Thank you for uploading this great piece of history
Funny how these are rarely mentioned
Damn, like I know we glamorize the past with nostalgia and there were sure a lot of bad problems back then, but something about the simplicity of the 80s and 90s just feels like life was way better back then. I'm honored to have grown up in the 90s, but what I wouldn't do to experience that time as an adult.
This video gives me so much nostalgia, thank you for uploading it
You;re welcome.
15:30 INSANE footage of the former Dean street. I did not believe how badly deteriorated that station was. There are rarely any photos available of how it looked post 1981. Seeing this in 1993 is blowing me away. The worn platform, fragile railings and antique like walls look like they resemble the 1910's fulton ave el style elevated stations and was badly falling apart. Plus the station was so close in proximity to the others near it with graffiti everywhere. I read turnstiles were being jumped resulting little to no fares being collected here. So glad footage exists of this.
I was 14 when you filmed this, looking at the old "TA" brought back a lot of memories. Thanks @trainluvr keep em coming.
I wish they preserved one! These were cool with the doors though. They rode in them with the doors open
Who is they and which doors?
trainluvr
1:54
They rode with the emergency doors open probably because it was hot right?
trainluvr
I also like how you recorded all the lights flickering on and off. The new trains must be AC power and these older ones were only DC. How ofter would the trains loose power briefly when moving?
The end doors were kept open for ventilation, even on regular trains.
Any time both contact shoes on a car stopped touching a third rail, the lights would go out. Such as at the necessary gap at track switches.
Taken 5 days after my 9th birthday, i was lucky to ride on the R27/R30 one year before retirement on the C train from 167th street to Kingsbridge Road. Sighs memories
It's a shame I never got a chance to ride them when I was young. I was only like 4 when they retired the BMT Redbirds. I grew up by the 1 train so I never got a chance to check out the other lines until high school. I got to ride the IRT redbirds a lot before they were retired in the early 2000s. They were rust buckets by that time, but man those were some beautiful rust buckets!
I just love how the lights on these and other fleets of older cars- including SEPTA with the Almond Joys, would sporadically go out due to the third rail. It’s funny that MTA’s R-32 Budd cars lasted over 24 years long than SEPTA’s M-3 cars.
I’m glad they saved a few R30s, even though the museum right now only has an R30 without a mate. Hopefully we don’t have to suffer another era where an entire Subway class was scrapped, with the last being the R27; the last was scrapped in 2013.
Gese, even in 1993 the r68 trains look old. See the windows scratched up and rust?
5:34 There’s a R12 subway car.
I remember I used to ride the R-30s as a kid. Great video.
They were only 3-4 years older than the R32, yet the retired 24 years ago and the R32 is still here today. Why would they retire them so early?
Maserati7200 ...The R30's did not have air conditioning, and retrofitting them would have made the already heavy cars prohibitively heavy. The T. A. Decided that since A.C. was a priority, it was a better idea to just scrap them.... Pity.
Also they're weren't all stainless steel like the 32s so their bodys wouldn't have lasted as long as the 32s
Ridership at that time also wasn’t too high to where the MTA could wait about a decade to replace the R27/R30s with the R143s.
@@TheSUBWAYZ the nycta 44s where carbon steal so they got scraped 13 years only
@Renz-O he said they were going to be replaced by the 143s. They were unfortunately retired early by the 68/68As.
I wish I was alive at the time to see the R30s :(
But instead you get to enjoy the fruits of internet augmented living for your whole life, instead of just half your life like me.
Ah...I was only 4 months old when this footage was recorded. Simpler times when everyone wasn't distracted by their smartphones. Also were those people actually throwing down at 23:40 ?! Holy smokes!🤣
The subway system had hardly no delays at this time,compared to nowdays
It was better than now, but on time performance never recovered to pre-1970 levels.
The R-32s were roughly three years younger than the R-30s which were retired in 1993 and the R-32s were retired nearly three decades after them in 2022, kinda amazing.
25:45 and 28:15 Dr. Zizmor sightings
Damn awesome video!
I also forgot to mention i got my hands on the R1-9 Destination sign used in the beginning of this video and on the fantrip. A friend gave it to me :D
R30s On The Brown (M).
Given that I was born in ‘97, long after these trains were retired, I’m quite surprised to see how much has not changed since this was shot. Most of the train stations have remained unchanged for nearly thirty years, with the Franklin Avenue shuttle line, and Coney Island being the only exceptions. Granted the changes made since then are very subtle, but other than that it’s the same today as it was then.
Taken 13 years and 1 day before I was born.
Your point being?
Nothing
I remember when these cars ran on the BMT almost exclusively - in their original olive drab.
Yeah but the dirt and grime made appear as a dusty black.
Amazing video!!!
I got to ride these from 1989 through 93. I sure liked these B Division redbirds along with the R32
i miss the r33 redbirds subway cars
Anyone know why the lights go out in the cars at 1:53? I remember this also happening on the 7 line heading into the times square station, as well as the N line between 59th st and 8th ave in Brooklyn.
These trains are lost gems looks just like r32s but red I really wish I could ride one
Actually if you look out for different events you could ride a redbird
@@eightavmta Yes but the Redbird in this video is a R30 model aka BMT Redbird. The ones that's preserved are IRT Redbirds. Not much different but still ain't quite the same either
15:39 Dean Street was still in use in 1993?
Yup I was there in the summer of 94 with my dad but did not enter the station cause it looked super dangerous I was 8 years old at the time so we went to park place instead Dean street closed September 10 1995
Reminds of when the C used to go to Rockaway Park, why did they retire these? They looked cleaner than the R32's today!
They didn't have A.C,so the TA decided to scrap them.
joe c that's a real stop reason to retire them they could had just used them I'm the winter and other cold times
15:25-16:15. Dean Street station covered in graffiti. It was closed in 1995.
Amazing R27’s & R30’s are sister cars to R32’s!!
look at all those retired GMC Fishbowls and Flexible New Looks.
not retired.
You should change your name to the 90s train expert films
You know what
They should of never scrapped the R30s
I wanted to drive that day
Well they had to
1. Not stainless steel unlike the r32, their bodies won’t last very long
2. They didn’t have AC so the Ta ain’t like that at all
I hope you still have the original VHS..I may be able to convert it to full 60fps
What ever happened to all those great shirts at 24;45???
I never got to ride bmt redbirds
The R27/R30 would of been have been retired by the R160s in 2009 it would of been great yk
Awesome video! :D
RIP R30
Never seen Them in action
are there any R30 cars left in new york that runs other then the brown car in the museum.. which i have never seen move?
To my eyes that car appears to be olive drab, known as Pullman green.
Is that Bill Wall towards the end?
where did the NX train go...?
From brighton beach to 57 St/7 av thru coney island and via sea beach express
WOW!!! #nostalgic
Why were there 4-car D trains and 6-car B trains back in 1993???
Ridership was different back then and plus this was taken on a weekend.
For safety reasons and cost reductions, off-peak service often used short trains at the time.
Cool! :)