To escape a vortex ring state (VRS) without loosing height just sweep the helicopter one or two rotor lenght to the right, while your nose stays in the direction you had before. But this depends on the direction your heck rotor blows. Most helicopter have to go right for an escape, there are not much helos with opposite blowing. Avoid it by not having about 300 sinkrate around 30kts.
@@AIRWARFAREGROUP really? That would awesome. Koder is gonna do a whole magnum PI mission once we get the curves right. Need to get the mod to change a jeep livery into an old 230 Ferrari and do a chase scene. Love to fly with you guys. Hit me up on Discord at ITTY#9286 later on brother!
@ThomasLowFlyer that's how I heard it. My friend I fly with made the mistake and I learned today it's vortex. Comment below yours has it wrong as well so it's not just me. But thanks for the correction. Funny in today's world with 9000+ genders that there's no such thing as vertical ring state lol
Why not invert your collective/throttle device so as to more closely mimic an actual collective? I did that with my WW Orion. I also set my collective range from 0-100% within the stops (AB and Fuel Cutoff). Did that with all A/C non-afterburning, eg, P-51, A-4, Helos, A-10, Su-25, etc. Using the slider and setting each scale.
@suecobandito8954 I believe I explained this in the video but the I did set it up originally and it just didn't feel right. When landing and evading fire I'd end up pushing the wrong direction and killing myself. I flipped it and it just worked for me. Bottom line is what ever works for you do it. Jimmy hendrix played a right handed guitar upside-down and was a legend. It's the pilot, not the gear. My buddy has the actual winwing collective for the apache and crashes 10x more than I do and can't fly nearly as clean as myself. And he's been flying helos for years more than me so there's definitely something to the way I set up the curves and throttle
@ShimonMaruani well the afterburner would be opposite for you as your setup is more true to an actual collective. Pull up you go up. But because I have a throttle and mostly did fix wing stuff for years before helos, it just felt more intuitive to push the throttle forward to add power and lift. So I just screwed around until I found something that really made a difference for my setup and the way I fly. I know there's a bunch of people that have a setup for fixed wing and still fly helos without a collective grip so this is really for them. But man, this video got tons of haters. Guaranteed they never bothered to watch how well I flew.
Playing around with the curves is helpful, telling people that different hardware and different helicopters needs different curves is helpful. Giving people some starting numbers is helpful. I do not have an afterburner detent myself, and even if I did I might still not make the curves that extreme. If you think the video is wrong then either give your advice or move on in silence. Just whining like that doesn’t help anyone, not even yourself
@30K_ACTUAL well said man, thanks for speaking up. I guess DCS has it's share of trolls that watch 30 seconds of the video and blast hate by the barrel
as a actual military uh1 aviator (retired) , who cares what he said . i always had a issue flying DCS choppers. I don't use VR so this is a great starting point
@jebb125 thanks man, all I was offering was help to people that needed an alternative to having a physical collective in their setup. So much hate on this for something that doesn't even matter to the people that hate on this solution. Oh well, trolls being trolls
Thanks for your video! Using your advice is a HUGE improvement in my game!
@dbonnice thanks man, I'm super happy that this helped as it did for me. But the amount of hate I got from this video was ridiculous lol
To escape a vortex ring state (VRS) without loosing height just sweep the helicopter one or two rotor lenght to the right, while your nose stays in the direction you had before.
But this depends on the direction your heck rotor blows.
Most helicopter have to go right for an escape, there are not much helos with opposite blowing.
Avoid it by not having about 300 sinkrate around 30kts.
I so wished that the H-60 MOD would go Pro! Rumor is that the dev Kink...is taking it forward with PolyChop.
@@AIRWARFAREGROUP really? That would awesome. Koder is gonna do a whole magnum PI mission once we get the curves right. Need to get the mod to change a jeep livery into an old 230 Ferrari and do a chase scene. Love to fly with you guys. Hit me up on Discord at ITTY#9286 later on brother!
Vortex Ring State is the term. No such thing as Vertical Ring State.
@ThomasLowFlyer that's how I heard it. My friend I fly with made the mistake and I learned today it's vortex. Comment below yours has it wrong as well so it's not just me. But thanks for the correction. Funny in today's world with 9000+ genders that there's no such thing as vertical ring state lol
Why not invert your collective/throttle device so as to more closely mimic an actual collective? I did that with my WW Orion. I also set my collective range from 0-100% within the stops (AB and Fuel Cutoff). Did that with all A/C non-afterburning, eg, P-51, A-4, Helos, A-10, Su-25, etc. Using the slider and setting each scale.
@suecobandito8954 I believe I explained this in the video but the I did set it up originally and it just didn't feel right. When landing and evading fire I'd end up pushing the wrong direction and killing myself. I flipped it and it just worked for me. Bottom line is what ever works for you do it. Jimmy hendrix played a right handed guitar upside-down and was a legend. It's the pilot, not the gear. My buddy has the actual winwing collective for the apache and crashes 10x more than I do and can't fly nearly as clean as myself. And he's been flying helos for years more than me so there's definitely something to the way I set up the curves and throttle
I use my left VKB for collective. Hang it angled so it is like you pull up you get more collective. How can i implement your advice?
@ShimonMaruani well the afterburner would be opposite for you as your setup is more true to an actual collective. Pull up you go up. But because I have a throttle and mostly did fix wing stuff for years before helos, it just felt more intuitive to push the throttle forward to add power and lift. So I just screwed around until I found something that really made a difference for my setup and the way I fly. I know there's a bunch of people that have a setup for fixed wing and still fly helos without a collective grip so this is really for them. But man, this video got tons of haters. Guaranteed they never bothered to watch how well I flew.
Two minutes in and you've already said more patently wrong things than I care to list. This is not only unhelpful, it's NOT helpful!
@AdmiralQuality super happy it's so not helpful to you! I actually took the time to do this video just for you.
Playing around with the curves is helpful, telling people that different hardware and different helicopters needs different curves is helpful. Giving people some starting numbers is helpful.
I do not have an afterburner detent myself, and even if I did I might still not make the curves that extreme.
If you think the video is wrong then either give your advice or move on in silence. Just whining like that doesn’t help anyone, not even yourself
@30K_ACTUAL well said man, thanks for speaking up. I guess DCS has it's share of trolls that watch 30 seconds of the video and blast hate by the barrel
as a actual military uh1 aviator (retired) , who cares what he said . i always had a issue flying DCS choppers. I don't use VR so this is a great starting point
@jebb125 thanks man, all I was offering was help to people that needed an alternative to having a physical collective in their setup. So much hate on this for something that doesn't even matter to the people that hate on this solution. Oh well, trolls being trolls