SURPRISING Team USA Media Day Takeaways 👀 | The Hoop Collective
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ส.ค. 2024
- Brian Windhorst is joined by ESPN's Tim Bontemps and Tim MacMahon to talk the winners & losers of the Paul George decision all together with Team USA, Kawhi’s reaction to losing PG, Embiid’s interesting comments on his new teammate, LeBron managing expectations for the Lakers, Steph Curry & Steve Kerr’s reaction to Klay’s departure, the Kings trading for DeMar DeRozan, some contract highlights and more!
0:00 Welcome to the Hoop Collective
1:34 Kawhi & Embiid on PG To Philly
15:59 No Pressure on Lakers From LeBron
23:20 Curry & Kerr on Klay Departure
31:56 Kings Trade For DeMar DeRozan
37:04 Spurs Get Help For Wemby
42:17 Interesting Contracts To Watch
51:32 Olympic Basketball
54:11 Thanks For Watching!
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"Chilled urine is better in those situations" is the best thing Windhorst has ever said. 😂
Thought I was gonna have to wait through the whole episode to catch that craziness 😂... nice he made that comment 1 minute in
@@mattk720lol same
😂🤢🤮😪😅
“Jesus Christ” - Bontemps
@@curtislinden9297 😂
Thanks to Tim MacMahon for mentioning Puerto Rico!!! All the Boricuas are ecstatic about making it back to the Olympics!! It took a lot of grit to beat Italy and Lithuania and we are extremely proud of our team’s accomplishment.
Well-deserved and will be cheering you guys on :)
@@chaught Thank you so much!
If you’re looking at it oprtimistically, the spurs added three rotation players, probably two starters. Paul pushes Jones to backup pg (48 minutes of capable pg play), Harrison Barnes pushes campaigney too the bench, Castle upgrades either your starters or your bench. Who knows how much that improves the team record in the west but they’re definitely better.
I could see OKC and Minnesota both going crazy in the regular season and then 11 teams all going between 40 and 46 wins, Dallas, Denver, New Orleans, Sacramento, Memphis, Houston, Pheonix, Golden State, Clippers, Lakers, and San Antonio!
I love what the Spurs did as a fan, they got a free upgrade at SF for this year. And the following year they will have expiring deals for Zach Collins/Harrison Barnes equal about 40m in salary, so if they wanted to bring in another big salary on or two role players on to the team, they have the expiring deals and the draft picks to make it happen. I could see them try to trade for Nic Claxton or another high level role player to put next to Wemby. Or they can continue to trade those expirings for bad contracts + draft picks to solidify the roster. Overall, they lost zero flexibility, while also pretending for the media they are trying to bring vets along next to Wemby. This is how you build intelligently
One of the hoop collective crew needs to ask Kerr if he has considered running a hockey style lineup. 3 min rotation and full court press the entire time. It would be unstoppable.
Why the Spurs catching strays here for getting an unprotected swap and Harrison Barnes for FREE?
'I mean, Jesus Christ' to respone to the urine soaked wet blanket digs... at that point I lost it 😂
what is this in reference to? I don't get it
@@bobbynw438 A quote from one of the podcasters... very early in the video.
The NBA just hands out money my goodness and player options
Keep that same energy, Bontemps. Spurs will be back playoff contention this coming season 👀🏀
Steph said he wanted Klay, him and Dray to play together til the end. Steph did NOT say he literally thought it would happen.
Gotta love hoop collective man
they said the same thing with fit when we got Sabonis
KD leading and carrying the 2021 olympics team for gold is one of the most underrated missions in usa basketball history
Let's all hope for Team USA egos to be the headline.
The team goes home, and that carries over to the regular season.
Spurs AND WEMBY have said multiple times that they are being patient with the rebuild. It's like these guys expect them to trade away all their assets in one offseason otherwise "they're tanking again."
I love Bontemps but I hate how he’s thinking the Spurs will be not that good next year. CP3 still played plus net rating basketball last year in a diminished role, he’s basically ancient, but I think he’s a perfect fit next to Wemby that can really elevate the team. The Spurs scouting and coaching has not changed for a long time and they’re the same guys that found diamonds in the rough in the draft and made them championship level players on the court. I wouldn’t underestimate Gregg Popovich, arguably the greatest coach ever. San An intentionally tanked last year, hence one of the reasons Wemby played sub-30 minutes per. If they really wanted to they would make the play-in. Their bottom guys might not be bonafide NBA talent, especially for a playoff team but you have a borderline superstar already in Wemby, you bring in finals-experienced vets, and you have arguably the greatest coach ever. If they can more about experience and being competitive than a slightly higher draft pick next year then I think they can be a 35-40+ win team, even in a loaded west, the Spurs have all-around good talent. Maybe not top of the league but at minimum should have average shooting, defense (probably top 10, especially with more Wemby minutes), ball movement, etc. I am a firm believer in the Spurs to make the play-in at minimum this year and the fact that Tim doesn’t see the potential and is preparing for the worst irks me. It’s not even being a realist because even in a loaded west that got better this offseason I still believe the Spurs are more likely to be a 9th seed than a 13th seed.
If they care* (not can) more about winning… (I meant to say)
Kawhi Leonard rarely talks to the media, so quit attempting to catch him slipping, WON"T HAPPEN
😡🏀💯
Yall acting like hes joe biden , sad
@@Angel4298Gclose
Calm down
He sorry af that why PG left him😂he straight 🗑
They make the nba spend too much time with the media. Buncha people who never played BBall asking questions.
44:28 Patrick Williams was not a mistake. That’s a bad take by MacMahon. He probably thought two years ago Coby White was a mistake too. Patrick Williams has not even turned 23 yet and played only half of his eligible games so far in his career, there is still much time for him to develop. What would MacMahon do if he were in Karnisovas or Marc Eversley’s position? Let your 4th overall pick that was your fourth leading scorer behind three former all stars two years ago walk for nothing? That would look even worse. Even if PatWill does not improve whatsoever and has already reached his ceiling he’s still a great 3&D player in this league. 40% from three on over three attempts per game is still great, three attempts though simply cause Billy Donovan is not a young player’s coach and does not run the offense to get him any touches. And now with Caruso gone he’s the team’s best defender. For that kind of player, in this kind of market today a five-year 90 mill contract for a young player on a YOUNG REBUILDING team is good value, especially considering the contract is a diminishing one over the five years, giving more wiggle room for extensions and other players in Chi for the future. The Bulls have the money, this is the exact type of move the fans and organization wants and it makes sense to double down on Patrick Williams. You want to already give up on him in his third year offseason? MacMahon was wrong he’s not a mistake and that’s a good contract.
And not to mention Patrick Williams is an analytics darling on the defensive end. MacMahon and these guys need to look at that and actually watch the games, he shows amazing flashes attacking the rim, pulling up in the midrange, etc. Seriously though he’s younger than Ayo on that team by over a year, he’s not played enough, had enough touches and has been playing behind three former all stars and Coby White what do people want from him seriously? He’s efficiency is great for his age, he’s a smart player, he’s talented. Why would the Bulls let someone that fits the timeline that has great potential and is already a good contributor walk? A cheaper deal wouldn’t have worked for PatWill’s camp. As silly as it might seem he’s a cornerstone for this rebuild, and I’m tired of the public narrative that PatWill is bad. He suffers from being on a losing team that doesn’t get much coverage and having no name like LaMelo or Anthony Edwards or Devin Vassell. Even in his draft fourth was high for him and people didn’t recognize him like those other guys. He’s not the level player those guys are but he doesn’t get the same chances as them, so I wouldn’t speak on it and dismiss him until we see that actually happen since unlike those guys, he went into a competitive, non-rebuilding team playing behind vets scrapping for his production and his stats whenever he wasn’t injured. It’s sickening that even experts like the Hoops Collective pod has are victims and feed into these false public narratives about players, teams, contract.
Am I the only one bothered on how Tim Bontemps keep cutting them or talking over them? Man, they let you say your piece, so let them finish with their own respective takes. I got no issues on how good Bontemps is, he surely is capable media veteran but really 🤨
Lol. They all do it, every single podcast they're together. Just ignore it.
As a biased spurs fan ur wrong they definitely won’t be as bad as last year, they finished the season strong wembys only getting better, the played half the season with sochan at point guard. They will end up in the play in
USA vs FRA Olympic final.
Spurs going to go get Cooper Flagg to pair up with Victor W. to try being the next Era's Celtics!
Okay, at this point I cannot be the only one that goes "weeeeeee" whenever Windy does his the intro for the episode.
Puerto Rico is going to Paris! 🇵🇷🇵🇷🔥🔥
A pasear 🤣🤣🤣
@@BabylonGateLA Que se joda! Jajajaja
I guess your right 👍🏻
Imo world cup basketball>olympic basketball
More competitive teams are in it
Nah. Look at the teams. The rosters are much better during the olympics.
@@Dilemina for team usa....for everyone they don't change
Joel should also should b resting seriously that knee wasn't looking to Good
Bontemps likes the Celtics, the warriors and loves curry
He hates lebron, anything lebron related and doesnt like the lakers either its clear every time hes on and he kills the vibe the whole episode
Kawhi really trying to play for Team USA? I mean why not right...
At some point it is going to be amazing seeing these legends run to the gold.
Right now the sting of Lakers trainwrecks and Clippers window smalling shut is making it hard for me to appreciate it in the moment
very disappointed that brian windhorst or any reporter on espn has reported the bulls situation unlike KC johnson or Local bulls reporters reporting on the actual team that there was a mandate from the reinsdorf family and the ownership group to compete for the playoffs hence delaying moves for rebuilding how can these guys not at least know that are they that incompetent
Because people don’t care about the Bulls unless Michael Jordan is involved.
The Reinsdorfs are terrible owners everyone already knows that. If the Bulls didn’t win six titles. They would be up there with Donald Sterling.
Bontempts couldn’t let anyone get out a whole thought if he was paid to do so. And he’s paid to do so. So annoying.
76ers had "not much else"? I mean Harris averaged like 17-18ppg is that nothing? If he is mad that Harris didn't show up in the playoffs I wonder what he's gonna feel when pg13% shows up
I love that nobody cares that Giannis brothers have had 5+ years in the NBA. But Bronny omg
Thanasis was drafted by some other team and when giannis was a nothing.
Autism awareness month and you brought bontemps on. So nice of you
Did they even try to get Jonas absolute joke that would of filled a position of need with the mid level and then two decent trades they would be good unreal.. They went for Klay who Rob couldnt even get on the phone..
Klay asked for a 2 year 40mil contract you think steph couldn't get the org to take that up gtfoh these jokers
Think Embiid will get all the foul calls in international ball?
Only 1 big fish to land? lol ok
Barnes is good on that contract demar is a way worse fit kings are dumb.. Spurs win they upgrade a roster spot and get something for it
Spurs aren't tanking next year. LOL
the roster is god awful. they go as far as wemby takes them
Why is Bontemps high on the Warriors moving up in the standings while the lakers will move back ? The warriors didn’t get better , they’ve gotten worse every summer since their title in 2022
We should have stayed the with college players. I don’t watch the basketball game.
Spurs going to do like the Jazz the last couple of years. Win in the 1st half of the season and then tank the 2nd half.
Bontemps and Wundy were extremely hard to listen to in regards to the Spurs offseason moves.
Hes a Spurs hater. Why dont understand
Go Canada
🏁🏁🏁🐶
As a Dubs fan, this feels like it’s Steph’s last big basketball mission! He’s accomplished just as much as Bron has and now all that’s missing on his resume is getting that gold medal with Team USA with his HC Steve Kerr leading the way! 🥇 ❤
2 less mvp’s and 3 less finals mvp’s. Steph is great obviously but you don’t gotta lie lol
lol Tatum better and already has a 🥇
@@nickhurt6600 I agree 💯 and I'm Dubbs fan and Steph my fav player... but no need to exaggerate and make the LeBron comparison. Steph has done PLENTY in his own right - including changing how the game of basketball is now played.
@nickhurthe6660 got his in better fashion, and they hold more weight tho
Not the same accomplishments but equal or better. Curry is over Lebron easy. Period
These jokers steph could of got klay to stay he could of told the org to keep klay these guys no accountability for steph
These guy talk options like they are facts and get proven wrong constantly but never admit they could be wrong
Uruguay-Colombia and the US Open Cup semifinals are both better sporting events than a USA-Canada exhibition but nonetheless all are appointment viewing
Absolute Titel-Fail
Bontemps is really annoying…. Let the other guys get out a full thought without cutting them off.
The 11th seed? Lol! Okay.
Tim a hater. He KNOWS what the 2nd apron means. It don’t matter if they’re a dollar under it. Bron helped them.
They act like this team won 38 games last season lol
Warriors are a 12 seed next year. Jazz, Blazers, and Spurs only teams they’re better than and Spurs only gonna lose more bc they wanna tank. Warriors fans are most delusional I’ve seen
Window and his dry humor man
All yall do is nag and interrupt each other
unbearable to hear that guy my god..
Dan has become so annoying and has a huge ego. He hates small market teams.
Why the hell is embid playing with USA he is not from this country
Not enough Iroquois, Sioux or Apache playing at a high enough level. So gotta depend on migrants and the spawn of migrants.
Boo hoo
Umm, these mega-millionaires all want to go to hang out in Paris and drink wine and go shopping with their wives. They seem to assume they will just win. But … first of all, the basketball tournament isn’t in Paris, it’s up north in Lilles which is essentially in Belgium. Second they have made the aging super star roster, not thinking about how to win FIBA basketball. Third their first game is against Serbia who were runners up at last summer’s World Cup without Jokic who will be playing in the Olympics. Finally Canada, Spain, France and Germany are prepared and designed for FIBA basketball.
😂 I'm looking forward to revisiting this very bold comment jajaja
On the international scale, what are you talking about on the international scale? This new should be out the league bro. He tried to Pat his name in history. That's it if I was the NBA after you're hearing that type of stuff, I would banned him forever. I wouldn't even let him buy the. Las vegas team
Cut Tatum of team USA he sucks not even a top 3 player on his own team
Kawhi should be resting as coach of the clippers listen we want a championship not sum Med al😮😢Seriously this is joel Happy PG is joining Him smdh take your Health seriously kawHi 😢😮🎉❤❤
Bontemps is absolutely annoying as hell!!! Dude interrupts them both often & then does the stream of consciousness rants. Terrible
France taking the Gold
They thought that in WWII also
Bonyemps is going to be eating his foot banking on Atlanta having a 40+ win team. Banned McMahon is on to something with the spurs having Atlanta’s 1st next year. It would be a huge story if the spurs win 40+ games and still get a top 5 pick in a loaded draft.
Good team back to back years? They didnt make the playoffs bontemps lol dude your a clown.. Make the playoffs again well they didnt bontemps make it last season.. Bontemps is a clown
Jesus windy is by far worse than Bontemps these days with the interrupting. He’s asking Bontemps about team USA because he’s actually there and then he’s interjecting trying to tell a story. Windy is great but I’m starting to think he getting a little big headed and thinks he’s this ‘Godfather’ of the NBA media.
8:40 unless this guy grows to be 6’11-7’0 flag will disappoint many he’s not that one
LeBron James Jr. should have been with the USA Olympic team instead of Ant
Brian looks hungry
Media is funny the lakers after all the mess last year literally lost to the ex champs because a handful of bounces didn't go their way 😂 it happens. If they can just stay healthy I see them at least top 5 but that if never happens
Wasn't botemps the one that said warriors ceiling is higher than the lakers that can go high as the fourth seed on get up? But he think lakers who beat them two years ago and warriors being out of the playoffs last year. Clown man. Don't know if he dislikes lakers that much or fan boys the warriors.
The US will bring home the gold because that's what the God almighty wants.
BONTEMPS is such a LAKER & LBJ HATER 😅😅😅😅😅 he can’t hide 🫣 his “CONTEMPT” anymore 😅😅😅
We got better without PG13. Bamba DJJ KPJ Batum Kai Jones Dunn and still counting. Less Stars more great Role Players. No problem with PG13 leaving. See ya
LMAO, only play-able players in there are batum, the woman beater, and DJJ
Lol. Losing a guy who was an all star for you for nothing is always upgrade.
lol that's a delusional take.
If u mean better at not making the playoffs I agree
Ty Lou has shown the ability to get the best out of role guys so I like the signings, but at the end of the day Kawhi is never gonna be healthy enough for a full playoff run so it doesn’t matter
Please don’t take my Lord’s namevin vain!
Sports news people, players..Cool-It with using Christ's name in vain, the "F" word....Vulgarity shows lack of character and so much more..please clean it up for goodnes sakes...let go of your "pride" if you dismiss what I say...
Why are media platforms so willing to disrespect Jesus name ? Why nobody use no other god names in vain ? Good luck to them tho
Sounds like you're the one who feels disrespected. 🎻
Don't watch if they're so offensive. Problem solved. 👍
Seriously no one cares
Jeezus, get a life.
These jokers steph could of got klay to stay he could of told the org to keep klay these guys no accountability for steph
Klay wanted to leave. End of.
@@LanZhansWeiYing klay went to them and said 2 years 40mil they said no steph could of made them say yes