Actually love this video. It’s so refreshing seeing a training video where the dog isn’t fully trained before the vid even starts. I watched a bunch of other shaping vids and the the dogs clearly had it nailed before the vid was even filmed. Thanks for the content that fits real people. Will be looking up your other vids.
I've found freeshaping improves confidence in timid foster dogs, especially when I am asking them to target objects instead of just look at or follow me, touch, etc.
Thanks for putting this fabulous video together and sharing. I love that you didn't use a fully trained dog. It's really helpful. Can I ask, when do you start naming the behaviour so you can request it when you want it?
So, I have a generalized answer for that, but I hope it makes sense. The answer is, when I love the behavior. When I love what it looks like, then the cue is put in.
Hi thanks for the video - I'm interested in where and when I would introduce the 'release' word ie. the word that says he can break out of standing on the platform. My instinct would be to use it (I always use "ok !") from the start, like when throwing the treat away, but I notice u don't do this ? Is that bcos it would be too much info at this point ? I mean, eventually u wud have to use his release word right, to complete the excercise and reinforce staying put until released ?
Super question. My simple answer is, when you love the behavior. What I mean by that is, when we love what we are getting in the behavior, it's time to start the anticipation process and enter the cue. In freeshaping, it's no different than any other anticipation training process. Always put in the new signal or cue first, followed by the old or last understood cue. With freeshaping, there isn't another cue other than the behavior or recognition of the desired behaviors context. If possible, cue first and then create the context of the freeshape. Or, if you have another waiting type of behavior like a sit, you can use your cue almost as a release to perform the behavior. I hope this makes sense.
The “free” part of free shaping is that it is done in the absence of luring or physically prompting the dog onto the box. The dog is free to not engage in the response, he just doesn’t get reinforced for doing anything other than the target response.
What if the dog isn't bribed with food? Or refuses to work for food? Or toys? Or affection or praise? We adopted our puppy at 5 months. He's now 8 months. He's a Greek Shepherd dog (a rarer breed of livestock protection dog). The bond we have is a bit weak...how to build that up first? You had all Koda's attention before you even started. But I'd never have that for my dog to even begin with... Feeling a bit helpless...
Don't feed him for 24hrs. Won't hurt him and he'll probably be more driven for food. Some dogs just aren't very driven. They're less of a terrorist but harder to train.
@@Sottanpoomkavu this is typically used for very young dogs or puppies while waiting on maturity. And this video is meant to just demonstrate one piece of training and how it can be done.
Well, he lacks on technical skills and it´s not consistent. Actually it´s not really free shaping, quite normal in videos on the web. nice try anyways!
Luring is drawing them into position with a treat. He sort of lured with his body but also treated any progress towards the goal, lured or not, which is free shaping.
It was mostly luring. If you want to see better example of freeshaping see the video "8 weeks old Rottweiler puppies ACTIVE LEARNING". The puppy goes into the tub without the trainer walking him over it.
Hi I love your vedio I have something tell u ,u should change your youtube channel name I suggest ur name and ur last name for example and put tutorials abt training
i'm so glad you showed the whole process and didn't just edit all the successes together.
The best thing about free shaping is to see how proud the dog gets when he breaks the code. I just love that! 🤩
Truth *light bulb!"
Actually love this video. It’s so refreshing seeing a training video where the dog isn’t fully trained before the vid even starts. I watched a bunch of other shaping vids and the the dogs clearly had it nailed before the vid was even filmed. Thanks for the content that fits real people. Will be looking up your other vids.
I've found freeshaping improves confidence in timid foster dogs, especially when I am asking them to target objects instead of just look at or follow me, touch, etc.
Thanks for putting this fabulous video together and sharing. I love that you didn't use a fully trained dog. It's really helpful. Can I ask, when do you start naming the behaviour so you can request it when you want it?
So, I have a generalized answer for that, but I hope it makes sense. The answer is, when I love the behavior. When I love what it looks like, then the cue is put in.
Thanks, I will be following your channel. I know that your moving and talking was necessary for the video aspect, but still super awesome technique
Thank you so much for that video, so helpful
Hi thanks for the video - I'm interested in where and when I would introduce the 'release' word ie. the word that says he can break out of standing on the platform. My instinct would be to use it (I always use "ok !") from the start, like when throwing the treat away, but I notice u don't do this ? Is that bcos it would be too much info at this point ? I mean, eventually u wud have to use his release word right, to complete the excercise and reinforce staying put until released ?
What a fantastic training session. I can totally see this working with my boy Bing.
I dont understand the importance of the clicker. Seems to me you can free shape without it or am I misunderstanding
Dude you missed some key marks, and treating was really slow.. otherwise the info was helpful
Like what marks
From there, where would you begin adding the command or cue to the behavior?
Super question. My simple answer is, when you love the behavior. What I mean by that is, when we love what we are getting in the behavior, it's time to start the anticipation process and enter the cue. In freeshaping, it's no different than any other anticipation training process. Always put in the new signal or cue first, followed by the old or last understood cue. With freeshaping, there isn't another cue other than the behavior or recognition of the desired behaviors context. If possible, cue first and then create the context of the freeshape. Or, if you have another waiting type of behavior like a sit, you can use your cue almost as a release to perform the behavior. I hope this makes sense.
The treat - giving is WAY too slow! Otherwise, a great video...
Good presenter!
Can I use a square towel instead?
Absolutely. It might have slightly more of a challenge to it, but you certainly can.
Lol he touched it a couple time I was yelling lmao
Treating us way too slow homie. Charging, then talking, then treating isn’t a good idea
Would that srill be free-shaping, as you have a 'goal'?
The “free” part of free shaping is that it is done in the absence of luring or physically prompting the dog onto the box. The dog is free to not engage in the response, he just doesn’t get reinforced for doing anything other than the target response.
What if the dog isn't bribed with food? Or refuses to work for food? Or toys? Or affection or praise? We adopted our puppy at 5 months. He's now 8 months. He's a Greek Shepherd dog (a rarer breed of livestock protection dog). The bond we have is a bit weak...how to build that up first? You had all Koda's attention before you even started. But I'd never have that for my dog to even begin with... Feeling a bit helpless...
Don't feed him for 24hrs. Won't hurt him and he'll probably be more driven for food.
Some dogs just aren't very driven. They're less of a terrorist but harder to train.
Why waste so much time. It can be done even easier😅
@@Sottanpoomkavu this is typically used for very young dogs or puppies while waiting on maturity. And this video is meant to just demonstrate one piece of training and how it can be done.
Well, he lacks on technical skills and it´s not consistent. Actually it´s not really free shaping, quite normal in videos on the web.
nice try anyways!
This looks more like louring to me.
Luring is drawing them into position with a treat. He sort of lured with his body but also treated any progress towards the goal, lured or not, which is free shaping.
It was mostly luring. If you want to see better example of freeshaping see the video "8 weeks old Rottweiler puppies ACTIVE LEARNING". The puppy goes into the tub without the trainer walking him over it.
Hi I love your vedio I have something tell u ,u should change your youtube channel name I suggest ur name and ur last name for example and put tutorials abt training
a stupid haircut and mirrored sunglasses on a teenage talker is a turn-off. He is not a pro dog handler. Skip it.
OK, Doug in Virginia with no videos posted himself troll.
What turns you on then bro