Loved listening to your insights of transition we had as Tamils… thank you for sharing this wealth of knowledge… it’s an eye opener personally and truly appreciate it 🙏
Sir, they changed our nation's name as BHARAT taken from the story book Shakunthalam written by kalidasa In any case they can change " National anthem , that is Bengali language.
Karunanandan in this video is talking humanism and in praise of the “modern”. He is downgrading and at times attacking the past and its traditions, literature, and customs as being either unnecessary in today’s world or some kind of derogatory practices, encouraging stupid ideas and beliefs and so on. Is he correct? Definitely not. On what basis is he saying that the past human societies were far worse than our society? Is it based on the fancy gadgets we have and the cars, planes, the mega cities, and of course cell phones? He calls them comforts and says our ancestors did not have them and therefore he assumes they were inadequate as a society. He is saying all this regarding the Tamil, Hindu society of the past. Yes, if it is a comparison in terms of gadgets and technology, of course the past did not have it. We did not even have cell phones when we were young. However, what is the measure for a good society? It cannot be these gadgets and technologies. It must be measured in terms of happiness, family stability, safety of children, health, a sustainable economy, food in plenty and clean air, clean water, and organic, natural, and healthy food. Which society fulfilled these criteria? In my opinion even our parents’ generation was better off than today’s modern regarding these issues. Going back further it was even better. Yes, illness was there but it could not have been like today, where we are facing a disease epidemic. Logically speaking, what does a doctor say to us to keep healthy, he will say, be stress free, exercise regularly, eat healthy food, drink clean water, breathe clean air and sleep well, be free of fear of the future and so on. Which society had such things more, the past ones or the modern? The pre-industrial society met all these criteria. The post-industrial society has been losing each one of them rapidly. Of course, there was disease, suffering, adultery, conflicts, wars, and poverty in the past too, but in comparison it was minimal. In the past death was inevitable (most of the time) regarding childbirth gone wrong, serious accidents, illnesses requiring surgery, heart attacks, etc. Eye care was not available and teeth care. Therefore, it is only regarding certain health issues that we moderns are better off. The rest of the gadget and technologies-based advances in our modern society are trivial and the detail and cannot be means to create a better human society. Therefore, Karunanandan’s admiration and praise of the modern is faulty. His comparison is faulty. He points out evidence of bad kings and says look, such guys also existed. Of course, they did. Even in Ramayana and Mahabharata such bad characters existed. That is human nature. However, the percentage of higher souls, noble leaders, honest people, and heroic men and women was far greater in the past. Why? Mainly because society had better moral, ethical, and social standards. The Family unit was strong, the competition was less. People were religious and followed the scriptural instructions strictly and 99% of such instructions were aimed at elevating the human mind to a higher state of consciousness. Therefore, in the pre-modern era, human society was less corrupt, nobler, peaceful, and relatively content and happy than modern society. The fact that they had less desires and no consumerism itself is a major psychological reason for society being in such a good situation. He mentions the mother who declares that if my son was killed by a lance in his back I will cut my two breasts, which gave milk to a coward. He tries to paint that mother as a war monger. First, she is from the warrior caste, Kshatriya caste, called Maravar in Tamil. Even today, in the West, in families that have a lineage of military service, there are parents who do not fall apart when their child is killed in battle. That is a mindset which develops in such families. The Kshatriya families were such. Therefore, that mother acted in the manner any Kshatriya mother would have acted. Then he goes on to say, why did she not discourage him from going to war, why did she not talk pacifism to him and so on. I consider that stupid talk. I do not think I need to explain why I think so. Therefore, Karunanandan has virtually insulted the Tamil culture, by saying the things he says here. He has not given credit to the noble character, the pious religious culture, the wonderful eco-friendly lifestyle, the empathy prevalent among the people, the charitable nature of the people, the great literature, the large number of great saints, etc. etc. and the existence of great and noble kings, all of which prevailed in ancient Tamil Nadu. The Tamil culture and civilization of the past has no match in the world. It was a society largely living the lifestyle that Thirukural praises and recommends. Most of such characteristics came to the people by default, it was their very nature, just like that of other species. These animals and birds do not try to be their true nature, they simply exhibit their default character; it comes naturally to them. In the past the Tamil people were such, they were good, noble, and cultured people, by default. Therefore, the professor has done great injustice and disservice to the Tamil people through this lecture.
Isn't "உயிர்" the complement of "மெய்"? Like உயிர் எழுத்து and மெய் எழுத்து? So, I don't think juxtaposing "பொய்" against "மெய்" is the right approach. "மெய்" is a lesser reality as against "உயிர்". I think the expression "காயமே இது பொய்யடா" ought to be appreciated in this context.
The speech contains nothing,literally nothing, about the " psychological trends in Tamil literature". It is an aimless wandering thru Tamil history.Except one important point mentioned and passed over : The unique, distinctive roles of அஹம் and +புறம் literature, the likes of which are rare elsewhere. From where the day's subject would have evolved into thought-provoking topic-related motivation to the student- listeners. A good opportunity missed.
if u can understand, clearly uŕ wavelength is different. may be its better to stick to someone who speaks ur ideology like saideepak or keerthi. pls dont bother watching this channel.
Loved listening to your insights of transition we had as Tamils… thank you for sharing this wealth of knowledge… it’s an eye opener personally and truly appreciate it 🙏
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I was attained the programme… what a wonderful speech…… hats off Sir….
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Sir, they changed our nation's name as BHARAT taken from the story book Shakunthalam written by kalidasa
In any case they can change " National anthem , that is Bengali language.
Karunanandan in this video is talking humanism and in praise of the “modern”. He is downgrading and at times attacking the past and its traditions, literature, and customs as being either unnecessary in today’s world or some kind of derogatory practices, encouraging stupid ideas and beliefs and so on.
Is he correct?
Definitely not. On what basis is he saying that the past human societies were far worse than our society? Is it based on the fancy gadgets we have and the cars, planes, the mega cities, and of course cell phones? He calls them comforts and says our ancestors did not have them and therefore he assumes they were inadequate as a society. He is saying all this regarding the Tamil, Hindu society of the past. Yes, if it is a comparison in terms of gadgets and technology, of course the past did not have it. We did not even have cell phones when we were young.
However, what is the measure for a good society? It cannot be these gadgets and technologies. It must be measured in terms of happiness, family stability, safety of children, health, a sustainable economy, food in plenty and clean air, clean water, and organic, natural, and healthy food. Which society fulfilled these criteria? In my opinion even our parents’ generation was better off than today’s modern regarding these issues. Going back further it was even better. Yes, illness was there but it could not have been like today, where we are facing a disease epidemic. Logically speaking, what does a doctor say to us to keep healthy, he will say, be stress free, exercise regularly, eat healthy food, drink clean water, breathe clean air and sleep well, be free of fear of the future and so on. Which society had such things more, the past ones or the modern? The pre-industrial society met all these criteria. The post-industrial society has been losing each one of them rapidly. Of course, there was disease, suffering, adultery, conflicts, wars, and poverty in the past too, but in comparison it was minimal. In the past death was inevitable (most of the time) regarding childbirth gone wrong, serious accidents, illnesses requiring surgery, heart attacks, etc. Eye care was not available and teeth care. Therefore, it is only regarding certain health issues that we moderns are better off. The rest of the gadget and technologies-based advances in our modern society are trivial and the detail and cannot be means to create a better human society.
Therefore, Karunanandan’s admiration and praise of the modern is faulty. His comparison is faulty.
He points out evidence of bad kings and says look, such guys also existed. Of course, they did. Even in Ramayana and Mahabharata such bad characters existed. That is human nature. However, the percentage of higher souls, noble leaders, honest people, and heroic men and women was far greater in the past. Why? Mainly because society had better moral, ethical, and social standards. The Family unit was strong, the competition was less. People were religious and followed the scriptural instructions strictly and 99% of such instructions were aimed at elevating the human mind to a higher state of consciousness. Therefore, in the pre-modern era, human society was less corrupt, nobler, peaceful, and relatively content and happy than modern society. The fact that they had less desires and no consumerism itself is a major psychological reason for society being in such a good situation.
He mentions the mother who declares that if my son was killed by a lance in his back I will cut my two breasts, which gave milk to a coward. He tries to paint that mother as a war monger. First, she is from the warrior caste, Kshatriya caste, called Maravar in Tamil. Even today, in the West, in families that have a lineage of military service, there are parents who do not fall apart when their child is killed in battle. That is a mindset which develops in such families. The Kshatriya families were such. Therefore, that mother acted in the manner any Kshatriya mother would have acted. Then he goes on to say, why did she not discourage him from going to war, why did she not talk pacifism to him and so on. I consider that stupid talk. I do not think I need to explain why I think so.
Therefore, Karunanandan has virtually insulted the Tamil culture, by saying the things he says here. He has not given credit to the noble character, the pious religious culture, the wonderful eco-friendly lifestyle, the empathy prevalent among the people, the charitable nature of the people, the great literature, the large number of great saints, etc. etc. and the existence of great and noble kings, all of which prevailed in ancient Tamil Nadu. The Tamil culture and civilization of the past has no match in the world. It was a society largely living the lifestyle that Thirukural praises and recommends. Most of such characteristics came to the people by default, it was their very nature, just like that of other species. These animals and birds do not try to be their true nature, they simply exhibit their default character; it comes naturally to them. In the past the Tamil people were such, they were good, noble, and cultured people, by default. Therefore, the professor has done great injustice and disservice to the Tamil people through this lecture.
Isn't "உயிர்" the complement of "மெய்"? Like உயிர் எழுத்து and மெய் எழுத்து? So, I don't think juxtaposing "பொய்" against "மெய்" is the right approach. "மெய்" is a lesser reality as against "உயிர்". I think the expression "காயமே இது பொய்யடா" ought to be appreciated in this context.
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The speech contains nothing,literally nothing, about the " psychological trends in Tamil literature". It is an aimless wandering thru Tamil history.Except one important point mentioned and passed over : The unique, distinctive roles of அஹம் and +புறம் literature, the likes of which are rare elsewhere. From where the day's subject would have evolved into thought-provoking topic-related motivation to the student- listeners. A good opportunity missed.
Your thinking and comprehension seem very limited
if u can understand, clearly uŕ wavelength is different.
may be its better to stick to someone who speaks ur ideology like saideepak or keerthi.
pls dont bother watching this channel.
சலுய்ட்!