@@adaptivetech8165 10 miles is long? And you need a better battery because of the hills and wind or even weight etc, so It's not really the distance., It's how much power you'd need for those things. And I don't drive so It's perfect for me.
MFSGamePlay why don’t you drive? I’m 15 so I legally can’t drive, so yeah electric scooter is a great way of transportation, also there’s something called Uber, and electric scooters are made very short commutes, not like a 20 mile trip, 10 miles is plenty, and is way more than you think. That’s around a 30 minute drive, 10 miles is at 30 mph. Soooo
@@adaptivetech8165 I know what uber is duh! why would I pay uber? when I have a scooter? I'm saving much more money with my scooter. if I don't ride my scooter, I'll just take the bus. And, driving isn't for everyone. I live in nyc, I don't need to drive sir.
MFSGamePlay how much does a scooter cost? Yeah over $500 for a nice one, Uber is around $10 a ride, that means you can have 50 Uber rides for the price of one scooter, just saying, I love my electric scooter, (Xiaomi M365) but if I need to go anywhere over 10 miles than I take an Uber, I would still do that if I had a scooter with 40 miles of range.
Hi all, I confirmed you can remove the battery by just removing the deck. You could swap it for double the range in a few minutes once extra batteries are sold. It's 6.7 lbs, 370Wh, 43.2 V nominal. Cell type and configuration unknown (Boosted won't release publicly). 0:01 Deck removal 0:06 Controller removal 0:41 Fender assembly removal 1:06 Rear tire removal 1:46 Finish fender assembly removal 2:42 Battery removal 4:11 Battery weighed 4:44 Battery stats discussed 7:01 Weather proofing illustration/discussion 7:37 Simple battery removal (only deck off) + swap discussion (for range doubling)
If there was a battery compartment that you could just undo a slider and replace the battery with a spare... that would have been fine.. I just can´t get over a €2000 scooter only probably averaging around 12miles (19km) for me. For me a scooter is a leisure item... I want to explore the local paths, ride it along the coast here in Valencia or nip to the shops... I don´t want it to die in half an hour LOL
@@CliveSmithy they are def. marketing this as a commute vehicle, primarily in cities with traffic or cities where you'd normally take an Uber. It's not really being marketed as a leisure vehicle you can ride around all day on. I think people should buy this if they care about the following for their use case: a) 2 motor torque for fun factor, maneuverability, hill climbing performance, b) superior weatherproofing vs. almost all other scooters on market, c) ~10 miles-ish range, d) a premium-looking scooter (aesthetically-minded people), e) high build quality...and arguably f) solid customer service from a US company (although they've actually been slipping a little here, I think mostly due to Rev launch overwhelming their resources). It's def. not for everyone.
Boosted Luke Yes I get that - perhaps that works in the US where the scooter can be bought for $1500. In Europe where the scooter costs €2000 and we have to deal with third party suppliers, I am not so sure. For €1099 I have a Minimotors Mini 4 Pro, which is also a premium scooter with an LG battery pack. Its just the lack of range I can't get over... 22km in a usable mode at best is poor. I get a real range of 26km in mode 3 on the new Xiaomi Pro - single motor rated at 300watts but actually peaks at 1000watts - costs €499 here. Most of the trips out that I do are - 16km on the Xiaomi Pro - which the Rev may do, but not in mode 3 and 30km on the Minimotors mini or Dualtron. I don't expect a scooter to ride all day, but I do expect a couple of hours at least and I ride them all in the fastest modes
@@CliveSmithy agree $2200 USD would also be too much for me. I think these scooters are all about matching capabilities to individual needs. I personally would be bored AF on a Xiaomi Pro, it couldn't handle the hills in my area, and it's not weatherproof. The Mini 4 Pro does look like a great all rounder. I feel like single motor won't compete with dual on hills at speed though. If I cared more about range than hills, weatherproofing, etc. + lower cost those sound like great options.
Wondering if I can replace those cells with 2170s from Tesla model 3, there is plenty of them available at big battery, and looks like they’re using 12s configuration, just don’t want to destroy my battery pack yet...
My Rev battery died, currently looking into ways to get it fixed as a replacement is 600 euros and they're sold out everywhere. Have you found any more info on this battery since posting? Thanks!
Can't wait to be able to put a couple batteries in my backpack and haul ass everywhere on mode 3. Love this scooter so far but switching back and forth from a Onewheel, the range and 3 hour charge time seems to be it's weakest point. Thanks for the tear down.
I have owned my Rev for about 18 months. Battery is draining faster than I thought. I might have put about 70-80 miles on it. Anyone else seeing this kind of degradation of the battery?
I love the design of the "rev" but lets be honest here, that battery is a joke, some people is only getting 8 miles out of the "rev" that's seriously weak, and the fact that they wont even share the cells can only mean that they know it's some bad cells. they could have made the deck a tiny bit wider and easaly fit a 1kwh battery in there, and some samsung/sony 18650 cells to increase the range of the scooter to 35+ miles at an average 20mph cruise. At this price point, its primary value comes from the design.
A great pull down, thanks. I'm of the view that the Boosted approach to waterproofing is pretty much the best way. Waterproof connections and have the shell open so that it shields water but is open enough to allow drying and prevent ponding. Hence those weep-holes and the big gaps in the case. If I was to conjecture I'd not be surprised to find that the battery was not 18650 but was indeed pouch lithium cells, as thats pretty much their heritage in skate boards right? Nothing wrong with them, although I don't think that they're available in the INR (Nickle) chemistry yet. If you measured that battery and then considered the dimensions of 18650 cells (18mm diameter cylinder, 65mm long) you'll be able to estimate if they could be stacked in there (draw some circles, say in paint) and then lay the next ones over offset to see). FWIW the battery pack in my Mercane Wide Wheel (which is 633Wh is substantially bigger than yours. Its 13S6P and is 405mm X 100mm (X 55mm high) ... it has the BMS inside it. If interested here is a pull down of my smaller single motor battery pack: cjeastwd.blogspot.com/2020/01/mercane-battery-pull-down.html So nearly as water resistant as yours (probably)
Hi Luke! I have a question about Boosted Rev. My charge stops at 75%. Is that anything u can do like resetting the rev at any point? Can I remove the battery for that maybe?
@@LukeMTB I do know where to buy a new battery. But I will try remove the battery first and put it back if it works. Maybe I will reset everything. I hope so ☺️
Yeah you'd have to charge it inside the rev unfortunately as the battery routes through the controller to the charging port. For me, this would become a major pain if needing 2 batteries to go one way to work. You'd end up having to swap 3 times - once to get to work, once at work to charge both batteries, then once on the way home. Well, then another swap once you get home to charge them both, so 4 times. Prob too much of a PITA for me personally tbh. Prob realistic for an occasional out/back longer ride. Or for someone just willing to do that. Using less deck screws or mod-ing them to be quick release somehow (while maintaining safety of the deck not coming off while riding) would help.
LukeMTB all great points. If Boosted ever achieved scale with these I could see a little exchange zone where you could swap your battery. My personal interest is travel. I live in Canada and I’m trying to figure out ways I could take this with me when I fly.
@@scobelverse Yeah I guess you easily pop the battery out, carry it on, and check the scooter in a bag. I imagine the problem you'd run into is the airport/airline staff understanding that's what you did, and that the scooter's battery has been removed. Sounds like it has potential for things to go wrong. Curious if you figure it out though, agree would be cool to travel with this and not have to rent a car for certain trips.
Here's the airline I use the most in the US - looks pretty dire for a Rev: "Two-wheel electric boards, hoverboards, gliders, electric unicycles, or intelligent scooters of any type which use lithium or lithium ion batteries will not be accepted in either checked or carry-on baggage." www.alaskaair.com/content/travel-info/baggage/prohibited-items/spare-batteries-electronic-devices
did you measure the battery voltage after you removed it? i tried on mine but no voltage, did find 11V & 1.9V on 2 sets of smaller pins. my battery works fine, but this makes me wonder if there is a mosfet turn on switch in the battery pack? thxs
Hey. I’m from the US but I live in Argentina. I’m hoping to bring a rev back to Argentina on my next trip but the battery is an issue with the airlines. Thoughts on removing cells? I imagine that’s really risky. Just trying to explore possibilities. Thanks!
That's what I was looking for - thanks for sharing!! Hopefully there will be any kind of better battery solution - range is just not good enough for me. ;)
How many Mha is the battery capacity please ? So I can compare it to another battery pack I have . I've tried to convert wh to mha but haven't been able to figure it out . Thanks! I've just subscribed Anthony from London uk
G'day, Anthony! Am Sharing: I converted the watt-hours to milliamp-hours by entering the energy in watt-hours, and voltage below. Watt-hours: 370 Wh Volts: 43.2 V Milliamp-Hours Results: 8,564.8 mAh Cheers! 😊✌🏼🛴❤️🎄
That's super informative! I would imagine it wouldn't be too hard to get someone to engineer a similar replacement battery - the hard part will be that silly proprietary connector that Boosted used (unsurprisingly). The 43.2 "nominal" voltage is also interesting, because Lithium cells are usually 3.7v nominal; at 11 cells in series that's 40.7v, 12 cells in series is 44.4v. Apparently the Boosted version is just slightly different? Hmm interesting. I do love my Rev, I haven't taken the deck off quite yet though. You're braver than I am! haha!
I challenge you to take the entire thing apart and put it back together 😜... only if this comment gets a thousand likes though lol loving the content on this piece of tech.
Hi Luke, I posted a video on how to make a field charger for the Rev for when you are away from any AC outlets. It's here th-cam.com/video/ZNmkINUJnGs/w-d-xo.html - I hope your viewers find it useful. I also measured an entire charge from empty to fully charged, and only saw only 300Wh go in. That's a little disappointing when compared to the nominal 370 Wh capacity. The difference would probably yield a couple extra miles in range...
Where , and who can you buy a battery from
Once they make a better battery, the rev is gonna be a way better scooter. I love it so far for my nyc commute .
It’s an electric scooter! You shouldn’t be using it for long commutes, that’s what cars and motorcycles are for. Lol.
@@adaptivetech8165 10 miles is long? And you need a better battery because of the hills and wind or even weight etc, so It's not really the distance., It's how much power you'd need for those things. And I don't drive so It's perfect for me.
MFSGamePlay why don’t you drive? I’m 15 so I legally can’t drive, so yeah electric scooter is a great way of transportation, also there’s something called Uber, and electric scooters are made very short commutes, not like a 20 mile trip, 10 miles is plenty, and is way more than you think. That’s around a 30 minute drive, 10 miles is at 30 mph. Soooo
@@adaptivetech8165 I know what uber is duh! why would I pay uber? when I have a scooter? I'm saving much more money with my scooter. if I don't ride my scooter, I'll just take the bus. And, driving isn't for everyone. I live in nyc, I don't need to drive sir.
MFSGamePlay how much does a scooter cost? Yeah over $500 for a nice one, Uber is around $10 a ride, that means you can have 50 Uber rides for the price of one scooter, just saying, I love my electric scooter, (Xiaomi M365) but if I need to go anywhere over 10 miles than I take an Uber, I would still do that if I had a scooter with 40 miles of range.
Hi all, I confirmed you can remove the battery by just removing the deck. You could swap it for double the range in a few minutes once extra batteries are sold.
It's 6.7 lbs, 370Wh, 43.2 V nominal. Cell type and configuration unknown (Boosted won't release publicly).
0:01 Deck removal
0:06 Controller removal
0:41 Fender assembly removal
1:06 Rear tire removal
1:46 Finish fender assembly removal
2:42 Battery removal
4:11 Battery weighed
4:44 Battery stats discussed
7:01 Weather proofing illustration/discussion
7:37 Simple battery removal (only deck off) + swap discussion (for range doubling)
If there was a battery compartment that you could just undo a slider and replace the battery with a spare... that would have been fine.. I just can´t get over a €2000 scooter only probably averaging around 12miles (19km) for me.
For me a scooter is a leisure item... I want to explore the local paths, ride it along the coast here in Valencia or nip to the shops... I don´t want it to die in half an hour LOL
@@CliveSmithy they are def. marketing this as a commute vehicle, primarily in cities with traffic or cities where you'd normally take an Uber. It's not really being marketed as a leisure vehicle you can ride around all day on. I think people should buy this if they care about the following for their use case: a) 2 motor torque for fun factor, maneuverability, hill climbing performance, b) superior weatherproofing vs. almost all other scooters on market, c) ~10 miles-ish range, d) a premium-looking scooter (aesthetically-minded people), e) high build quality...and arguably f) solid customer service from a US company (although they've actually been slipping a little here, I think mostly due to Rev launch overwhelming their resources). It's def. not for everyone.
Boosted Luke Yes I get that - perhaps that works in the US where the scooter can be bought for $1500. In Europe where the scooter costs €2000 and we have to deal with third party suppliers, I am not so sure. For €1099 I have a Minimotors Mini 4 Pro, which is also a premium scooter with an LG battery pack. Its just the lack of range I can't get over... 22km in a usable mode at best is poor. I get a real range of 26km in mode 3 on the new Xiaomi Pro - single motor rated at 300watts but actually peaks at 1000watts - costs €499 here. Most of the trips out that I do are - 16km on the Xiaomi Pro - which the Rev may do, but not in mode 3 and 30km on the Minimotors mini or Dualtron. I don't expect a scooter to ride all day, but I do expect a couple of hours at least and I ride them all in the fastest modes
@@CliveSmithy agree $2200 USD would also be too much for me. I think these scooters are all about matching capabilities to individual needs. I personally would be bored AF on a Xiaomi Pro, it couldn't handle the hills in my area, and it's not weatherproof. The Mini 4 Pro does look like a great all rounder. I feel like single motor won't compete with dual on hills at speed though. If I cared more about range than hills, weatherproofing, etc. + lower cost those sound like great options.
Boosted Luke hi bro. I saw 2 ports when you unplugged the battery. What is that other port do you suppose?
Wondering if I can replace those cells with 2170s from Tesla model 3, there is plenty of them available at big battery, and looks like they’re using 12s configuration, just don’t want to destroy my battery pack yet...
My Rev battery died, currently looking into ways to get it fixed as a replacement is 600 euros and they're sold out everywhere. Have you found any more info on this battery since posting? Thanks!
One of the best video on the REV. Battery Removal first☝️ 👍
Can't wait to be able to put a couple batteries in my backpack and haul ass everywhere on mode 3. Love this scooter so far but switching back and forth from a Onewheel, the range and 3 hour charge time seems to be it's weakest point. Thanks for the tear down.
Nate Baird yes dude, in level 3 battery drops so fast... they must improve soon this point
The battery price is so steep ($500 on BoostedUSA)
have you tried to open the battery itself and have a look inside?
I have owned my Rev for about 18 months. Battery is draining faster than I thought. I might have put about 70-80 miles on it. Anyone else seeing this kind of degradation of the battery?
Ive seen people making batteries for the boosted scooter. Is it more difficult to build batteries for the Boosted Rev scooter?
Can you charge the battery with it outside of the rev?
about how long should the battery last? and where can i get a replacement battery?
Did you open the battery, yet
I love the design of the "rev" but lets be honest here, that battery is a joke, some people is only getting 8 miles out of the "rev" that's seriously weak, and the fact that they wont even share the cells can only mean that they know it's some bad cells. they could have made the deck a tiny bit wider and easaly fit a 1kwh battery in there, and some samsung/sony 18650 cells to increase the range of the scooter to 35+ miles at an average 20mph cruise.
At this price point, its primary value comes from the design.
LOVE Sunzet boosted rev battery really sucks!!!
Would i be able to take the battery out easily and take the rev on a flight? and ship battery separately
This was great. Thanks!
Do you know where can I buy an extra battery?
Im going to dread replacing the bearings if those go bad. I had to do it for my xiaomi M365 but luckily i didn't have to do it with the hub motor.
A great pull down, thanks. I'm of the view that the Boosted approach to waterproofing is pretty much the best way. Waterproof connections and have the shell open so that it shields water but is open enough to allow drying and prevent ponding. Hence those weep-holes and the big gaps in the case.
If I was to conjecture I'd not be surprised to find that the battery was not 18650 but was indeed pouch lithium cells, as thats pretty much their heritage in skate boards right? Nothing wrong with them, although I don't think that they're available in the INR (Nickle) chemistry yet. If you measured that battery and then considered the dimensions of 18650 cells (18mm diameter cylinder, 65mm long) you'll be able to estimate if they could be stacked in there (draw some circles, say in paint) and then lay the next ones over offset to see).
FWIW the battery pack in my Mercane Wide Wheel (which is 633Wh is substantially bigger than yours. Its 13S6P and is 405mm X 100mm (X 55mm high) ... it has the BMS inside it. If interested here is a pull down of my smaller single motor battery pack: cjeastwd.blogspot.com/2020/01/mercane-battery-pull-down.html So nearly as water resistant as yours (probably)
Hi Luke! I have a question about Boosted Rev. My charge stops at 75%. Is that anything u can do like resetting the rev at any point? Can I remove the battery for that maybe?
hey no idea, but maybe you need a new battery. not sure if you can get them anymore. thankfully mine is still going strong.
@@LukeMTB I do know where to buy a new battery. But I will try remove the battery first and put it back if it works. Maybe I will reset everything. I hope so ☺️
That’s exciting to know. Would it be possible to charge the second battery externally or would it still need to charge while connected to the Scooter?
Yeah you'd have to charge it inside the rev unfortunately as the battery routes through the controller to the charging port.
For me, this would become a major pain if needing 2 batteries to go one way to work. You'd end up having to swap 3 times - once to get to work, once at work to charge both batteries, then once on the way home. Well, then another swap once you get home to charge them both, so 4 times. Prob too much of a PITA for me personally tbh.
Prob realistic for an occasional out/back longer ride. Or for someone just willing to do that. Using less deck screws or mod-ing them to be quick release somehow (while maintaining safety of the deck not coming off while riding) would help.
LukeMTB all great points. If Boosted ever achieved scale with these I could see a little exchange zone where you could swap your battery. My personal interest is travel. I live in Canada and I’m trying to figure out ways I could take this with me when I fly.
@@scobelverse Yeah I guess you easily pop the battery out, carry it on, and check the scooter in a bag. I imagine the problem you'd run into is the airport/airline staff understanding that's what you did, and that the scooter's battery has been removed. Sounds like it has potential for things to go wrong. Curious if you figure it out though, agree would be cool to travel with this and not have to rent a car for certain trips.
Here's the airline I use the most in the US - looks pretty dire for a Rev: "Two-wheel electric boards, hoverboards, gliders, electric unicycles, or intelligent scooters of any type which use lithium or lithium ion batteries will not be accepted in either checked or carry-on baggage." www.alaskaair.com/content/travel-info/baggage/prohibited-items/spare-batteries-electronic-devices
Matt Scobel removable batteries must be simply amazing!!!
Can you charge the battery when its removed from the rev, it kinda looks like it has a plug.
you cannot - at least not with the charger that comes with the rev
Now I have 2 batteries I wish I could figure out a way to charge the spare battery outside the rev
Do you know the dimensions of the battery? I’m planning to take mine on vacation and just need to ship the battery separately. Thanks.
i don't. i would make sure the airline will take a electric scooter on board. i suspect most won't understand or care that you've removed the battery.
did you measure the battery voltage after you removed it? i tried on mine but no voltage, did find 11V & 1.9V on 2 sets of smaller pins. my battery works fine, but this makes me wonder if there is a mosfet turn on switch in the battery pack? thxs
Hey. I’m from the US but I live in Argentina. I’m hoping to bring a rev back to Argentina on my next trip but the battery is an issue with the airlines. Thoughts on removing cells? I imagine that’s really risky. Just trying to explore possibilities. Thanks!
I don't removing cells will help with airlines - I would check with the specific airline you plan on using.
Thanks for sharing! Been wondering if the battery can be removed.
That's what I was looking for - thanks for sharing!! Hopefully there will be any kind of better battery solution - range is just not good enough for me. ;)
How many Mha is the battery capacity please ? So I can compare it to another battery pack I have . I've tried to convert wh to mha but haven't been able to figure it out . Thanks! I've just subscribed Anthony from London uk
G'day, Anthony! Am Sharing: I converted the watt-hours to milliamp-hours by entering the energy in watt-hours, and voltage below.
Watt-hours: 370 Wh
Volts: 43.2 V
Milliamp-Hours Results: 8,564.8 mAh
Cheers! 😊✌🏼🛴❤️🎄
@@JPilot2 that doesn't seem correct ? Does that say 8 thousand 500 and fifty six mha ? Its definitely more than that!
Just multiple voltage times Ah on your other battery.
E.g. 48v times 10Ah = 480Wh.
That's super informative! I would imagine it wouldn't be too hard to get someone to engineer a similar replacement battery - the hard part will be that silly proprietary connector that Boosted used (unsurprisingly). The 43.2 "nominal" voltage is also interesting, because Lithium cells are usually 3.7v nominal; at 11 cells in series that's 40.7v, 12 cells in series is 44.4v.
Apparently the Boosted version is just slightly different? Hmm interesting.
I do love my Rev, I haven't taken the deck off quite yet though. You're braver than I am! haha!
They can use 12x3.6 volts being on the conservative side that is 43.2V
I challenge you to take the entire thing apart and put it back together 😜... only if this comment gets a thousand likes though lol loving the content on this piece of tech.
awesome video. i just ordered my rev and already some what disappointed because of the battery life!
Yes not the best scooter for long range. Great for waterprooof, better power than single motor scooters (hills, torque), and customer service.
Calling it now, they're going to release an XR version with batteries in the shaft.
Not looking promising.. lol
Hi Luke, I posted a video on how to make a field charger for the Rev for when you are away from any AC outlets. It's here th-cam.com/video/ZNmkINUJnGs/w-d-xo.html - I hope your viewers find it useful.
I also measured an entire charge from empty to fully charged, and only saw only 300Wh go in.
That's a little disappointing when compared to the nominal 370 Wh capacity.
The difference would probably yield a couple extra miles in range...
Just about to buy one until I realised it does 10 miles on speed 3
Thanks for sharing. Love your videos.
I have spare battery from Segway it's 30,000 mah,1004 wh