Yes...SABC where all over us about xenophobia.This people think their opinoin makers. They made so much noise untill we kept quite. Now they blame the goverment as if they were not part of it.
If only they took operation Dudula and PSAF seriously then instead of calling them xenophobic and vigilante, we would be far in dealing with this scourge
SOUTH AFRICANS SHOULD BE THE ONLY OWNERS OF SPAZA SHOPS. And we should fine and also jail the SA homeowners who rent their rooms to illegal foreigners for trading on their premises.
How do u compete with people who produce their own fake products? In Ratanda, South Africans are being massacred for owning spaza shops. So what are you saying? @@matsikajaricha
Why are South Africans buying from spaza’s that they do not want in their communities? No business will keep its doors open without consumers. The solution is in the hands of the community.
@@AmoMoëtiDA is just as useless. In Tshwane, there are so many non compliant foreign owned spazas. We made Brink aware yet him and his MMC's have done nothing.
@@AmoMoëti you jumping to conclusions. What I'm saying is that the party I thought would make a difference(DA- not because I love them, but because I thought something different to ANC would make a difference)- they(DA) are failing also. Who is the better option?
They are a necessity for the economy in townships especially for people who cant access the city every day. So they cant close all. just the ones killing our children
@@matsikajarichaAre you suggesting they should continue eating rat poison buying it with their parents' money? You are heartless. Why don't you buy those snacks to your own children then ???????
Can we Annalise our contributions as communities by allowing foreigners to operate spaza and support them without inspecting what is sold to us? We, too, contribute as prolification of these spazas!
Clement... if there is a problem with koo beans from Spar or pick n pay.. the whole batch is recalled.. Why dont we hear anything about these foods from spazas being recalled and tested... our health inspectors and health department are failing us.. maybe they are benefiting..
If you remember our local shops and general dealers use to take our brothers and sisters to university and colleges but today someone gonna tell us that nonsensical
South Africans must teach their children not to buy food from these spaza shops and families should do the same as well. South Africans must open up their own spaza shops. What makes us think foreign spaza owners have our children's best interests at heart?
Tell me how does a family that earns less than r2000p.m does that. The govt needs to do their job we tax payers are paying them for. A massive audit must be done and guilty parties must be arrested...period!
Clement is it possible that local councillors are getting their palms greased by these Spaza conglomerates. Because they huge, countrywide, with bottomless resources. Someone within government is involved with these Spaza shops.
@@firstcomment749 No they don't register, they don't even pay tax, and only Home Affairs can check if they legal in the country. And our own people rent these spaces to them.
There were many videos that were circulated in south Africa showing how these spaza owners are wiping the expiry dates from the products, but we still have the same problem and the government is failing the communities
South Africans let's open our eyes did you ever see one of these foreigners complaining about their kids dying from the spaza shops food bazosiqeda babahambe bonke indaba enkulu ITSHOTSHO😢
What a discussion we have tonite,bear in mind we not far away from harties,its heart breaking esp the age of those involved.coexistence will never happen there ,maybe another generation ,highly impressed by some people in that panel tonite ,well done xoli
Big retailers must also be investigated. Some sell expired food too. Apparently some of the expired food stuff end up in the hands of these syndicates that repackage them for resale.
Mbalula scored an own goal.. even their propaganda specialist can't even protect him..Lusufi is a tactical master.. this gnu is on life support.. 🇿🇦 isn't free cause Palestine is still oppressed & under apartheid.. the government is still failing the black child- five innocent souls are gone just like that and the country is quiet.. soweto we cry with y'all..only revolutionaries can turn all this around..
Communities should focus on ensuring that all businesses, including those run by foreign nationals, are compliant with regulations. It's disappointing that the government hasn't made this a priority. Many politicians seem more concerned with their own interests than addressing these issues.
I think it would be just fair to prosecute those who allow their place to be used by these foreigners. We know and have seen business people arrested for employing illegal immigrants, why are these residents who give away their rights to foreign nationals not prosecuted?
Ennie Did not lose the network she ran away, Clemment was asking simple questions but for her, those questions were hard because her department was not doing its job
South Africa is a spaza shop itself. Me, myself and I, says we are in the end and let everyone do themselves. We are all going to die, this temporary life is fought between the righteous and unrighteous... Do what feels right for you...
Did she says it's just this 5? Speaking about dead kids who consumed poisonous food and she couldn't protect them? Please value the lives of ths poor! They are lives too!
That Lady from health said nothing Clement , I'm beginning to ask myself questions in terms of the criteria of appointments, Cry my beloved country 😂😂😂😂
This is always the case with us , people in the townships.We wait for someone or someone's child to die or get sick before we take actions. These foreign traders should be completely removed from our locations before it even gets to a point where we have to deal with deaths caused by their fake ,non-regulated products.Let's forget about the government coming to help us. We are the ones renting out our yards to these traders to come operate , instead of making sure we don't allow them to trade illegaly from the beginning..... Condolences to all the families who lost their loved ones ,our prayers are with you.....
During Boer time township shops were inspected, all government authorities must have 50/50 black and white workers bcs when blacks a alone at work its mess
As for the solution, I think these people should not be allowed to operated unregistered business in our country. They don't even pay tax, not regulated whatsoever like other companies.
Lesufi is correct my brother, the local community as the direct affected party must join together with all the relevant stakeholders to mitigate the ongoing ill effects of illicit capital monopoly as one government.
We don't have a government in this country at all, what is the problem with ANC. We are losing children every munite because of this foreigners. Enough is enough 😊😮😅😢 ANC must fall
We dont have government and police that is why we have police forums while there are people earning every month for wearing uniforms to collect bribes while we dying🇿🇦
Corruption at municipality level is so disheartening. One inspector in ELM was silenced,appatently for being vocal and causing discomfort for foreign Spazashop Owners. A friend once posted on FB about a Spazashop selling Flupack with antibiotics in Sharonlea, next the swimming pool. Reported the matter but a feedback didn't reach her.
its because dudula startede in Soweto just like Soweto uprising, so these foreigners and their hero Julius Malema knows that if they kill the youth of Soweto the rest of SA is gone to foreign nationals
All shops must display a regularly updated food health and safety certificate in their window. If not, report them. This is gov responsibility, not the community.
do we have competent men and woman in these municipalities to carry out the baylaws ? the problem is competency, the officials we have are not qualified
So the locals are sitting down waiting for the government to shut down these shops while children die?? 😢 Why are people still renting their rdp houses to these people ?
These snacks that. are. sold in spaza. shops are not. found at normal. retailers like shoprite. govt needs to trace where these snacks are made.did govt. visit these factories
Clement worse this MMC's are there for campaigning, they don't make any follow ups. Just listen to what Panyaza said when they have to investigate he says he'll come back for a report from the community instead of his blue uniform friends and amapanyapanya chasing mozambiquen nationals for passports in salons looking for bribes. Yesterday the residents of Naledi now jumped into Tladi and the sad part is looting in spaza shops will start again in Soweto through COSAS as it has already begin.
Japan from Jabulani The MMC is saying that they issue warnings where bylaws have been transgressed but she doesn't say how many so far since January as she alluded. Finally if health inspectors do inspections quarterly - what are they doing in the other months because they earn salaries on a monthly basis without fail.???
Makhafola, what a minion! these people hate South Africans. How many dies this year? She is asked - She does not know, she lies. In fact she has not answered any of the questions asked.
Go listen to what she said again but this time, listen objectively and with sense. Instead of being a coward why don’t you put your frustration and anger on the South Africans who rent out the shops and trading license? What do you expect a mere MMC to do about it other than carry out inspections? What else must she do?
@@YT-xk5jl You clearly do not expect much from her and you sound like her fan-boy. The bar is already low. And I listened to her, it was painful. She is useless, and logically very protective of a silly ideology. I haven't heard anything she said that suggests she is in tune with the problem. For God's sake she could not even tell how many kids died in the past year due to these type of poisoning. And she is responsible for HEALTH. You and her deserve each other.
Unite your rand mntu wase mzantsi. You're too dependent on government to solve your problems. Unite, unite, unite!!! Buy in bulk, you can do better than these guys even with R100 per month
MXM..i am so disgusted by this journalist who called xenophobic not so long ago fighting to PREVENT the exact incidents but today they act like this is all new and bad. NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN untill the community take law into their own hands and CLEMENT CALL THEM XENOPHOBIC. As for politicians they just enjoy spotlight at the expense of lost lives now. Come back in 2 weeks on this issue you will see no one from government. Those spaza shops foreigners BRIBE healthy inspectors, SAPS and Politicians
This eff member is just explaining what the health inspector's job description is, and is not really answering your questions, Clement. She just happens to be repeating everyone's role and not explaining the outcomes.🤦
Thos is DEMOCRACY. We must direct the Gvnmnt as voters and tell them our needs and they must deliver. Lesufi is right by coming back to the community to hear from them what they want
AN EFF member may not express any distaste on a proven modus operandi of illegal foreigners in the tuckshop industry.This attitude and behaviour is seen in drug trafficking dealing as well as illicit cigarette.
To tell the truth I've never seen any inspectors in these shops except for police who will take them in their vans and few minutes later they are back fully operating
Mr journalist host, you are the same people who said we are xenophobic when we reported these activities
Yes...SABC where all over us about xenophobia.This people think their opinoin makers.
They made so much noise untill we kept quite.
Now they blame the goverment as if they were not part of it.
Especially this guy I hate him 😒
If only they took operation Dudula and PSAF seriously then instead of calling them xenophobic and vigilante, we would be far in dealing with this scourge
@@nomawethumqina3270ngeke umnyanye njengami
@@nomawethumqina3270 makes 2 of us. bloody sellout
Anc is finished
SOUTH AFRICANS SHOULD BE THE ONLY OWNERS OF SPAZA SHOPS.
And we should fine and also jail the SA homeowners who rent their rooms
to illegal foreigners for trading on their premises.
What stops south Africans to have spaza shops. That's my question bcoz we been complaining about this for long time
How do u compete with people who produce their own fake products?
In Ratanda, South Africans are being massacred for owning spaza shops. So what are you saying? @@matsikajaricha
@matsikajaricha these foreigners threathen and kill SA's who own spazas, do you think we never had spazas pre 94?
Why are South Africans buying from spaza’s that they do not want in their communities? No business will keep its doors open without consumers. The solution is in the hands of the community.
@@matsikajarichathe issue once you try those guys comes and open 2 three shops around you. If you aren't financially balanced you go bankrupt
Anc is finish.a black child mean nothing .this people must go
DA is now in control of some of the departments that should deal with these issues yet they are doing anything
@@mlazakenna276😂😂😂 you want to blame DA to protect your beloved party
@@AmoMoëtiDA is just as useless. In Tshwane, there are so many non compliant foreign owned spazas. We made Brink aware yet him and his MMC's have done nothing.
@@AmoMoëti you jumping to conclusions. What I'm saying is that the party I thought would make a difference(DA- not because I love them, but because I thought something different to ANC would make a difference)- they(DA) are failing also. Who is the better option?
@@mlazakenna276haibo you can't blame DA for the mess they found bathong 😅
Close all spaza shops
They are a necessity for the economy in townships especially for people who cant access the city every day. So they cant close all. just the ones killing our children
Abahambe labantu babulala impilo zethu
We are here to stay, just focus to get a men & stop drinking alcohol.
Close all spaza shop
Where people gona buy because big shops are far frm people
@@matsikajarichaAy nina niyanyanyisa with your small minded and lazyness bowuthengaphi before abo my friend
@@matsikajarichaAre you suggesting they should continue eating rat poison buying it with their parents' money? You are heartless. Why don't you buy those snacks to your own children then ???????
That will never happen
@@lehapanamaleto6059 if it's poisonous why people looting. Something fishing here
My heart goes out to the affected families but this is what we will get for voting for these useless ANC
Can we Annalise our contributions as communities by allowing foreigners to operate spaza and support them without inspecting what is sold to us? We, too, contribute as prolification of these spazas!
Clement... if there is a problem with koo beans from Spar or pick n pay.. the whole batch is recalled.. Why dont we hear anything about these foods from spazas being recalled and tested... our health inspectors and health department are failing us.. maybe they are benefiting..
First of all, are they legal in the country?😤😤
This woman is lying last week 3 children have passed away in same situation
They must go stop making excuses
Yeah and they are arrogant and stubborn hmmm these failures
The quality of this cadres are so poor. Tjooo the ANC has fallen.
We always blame.anc.but what are we doing to spot.this bizarre?
Talking to the EFF member about Spaza shops is just a wasting of time.
Kikiki 😂
😂
If you remember our local shops and general dealers use to take our brothers and sisters to university and colleges but today someone gonna tell us that nonsensical
@ngoakosemenya5890 I know many people who are teachers because of those general dealers.
What is a “wasting” of time? Can’t even put together a sentence but you are worried about the EFF
Great work Clement
We're led by clowns
Yes they are just after money, greedy leaders.
True
But why our government hate us like that? Government choose foreigners instead of choosing us 😢😢😢
And we are the ones paying them with our taxes
Lol they asking him about the ANC and he keeps saying the GNU... 🤣😂 I fear the power of the dollar
South Africans must teach their children not to buy food from these spaza shops and families should do the same as well. South Africans must open up their own spaza shops. What makes us think foreign spaza owners have our children's best interests at heart?
Tell me how does a family that earns less than r2000p.m does that. The govt needs to do their job we tax payers are paying them for. A massive audit must be done and guilty parties must be arrested...period!
Clement is it possible that local councillors are getting their palms greased by these Spaza conglomerates. Because they huge, countrywide, with bottomless resources. Someone within government is involved with these Spaza shops.
In Ratanda, it has been alleged that the ANC mayor there works with foreign spaza owners who are killing South African spaza owners.
It's obvious
Do they have to register such spaza shops?
@@firstcomment749 they can't. They don't even qualify
@@firstcomment749 No they don't register, they don't even pay tax, and only Home Affairs can check if they legal in the country. And our own people rent these spaces to them.
The only thing we should do is to vote them out and put people who can listen to us
No need to vote in future let them vote for themselves
@@ReubenMotena yes they must vote for themselves
@@ReubenMotena yes
@@ReubenMotena we must vote , for those who care for us
I'm tired of this government cz they're not affected on this horrible situation it's on us poor of the poorest are affected 😢😢
Don’t vote for them!
But ur de1 who's buying de food and supporting Abu my friend
There were many videos that were circulated in south Africa showing how these spaza owners are wiping the expiry dates from the products, but we still have the same problem and the government is failing the communities
Talk about our contributions
Clement your journalism skills is on another level 👏 big up...!!!
South Africans let's open our eyes did you ever see one of these foreigners complaining about their kids dying from the spaza shops food bazosiqeda babahambe bonke indaba enkulu ITSHOTSHO😢
This is deliberately food poisoning and drugs to reduce the population of the youth so that they can take over the country
These Pakistanis buys their food from the pick n Pay and other big retail stores they not eating that rubbish they are selling
Clement was spot on here and that ANC guy was too defensive.
We are the community who are saying close all foreigners shops 😢😢😢
What a discussion we have tonite,bear in mind we not far away from harties,its heart breaking esp the age of those involved.coexistence will never happen there ,maybe another generation ,highly impressed by some people in that panel tonite ,well done xoli
Big retailers must also be investigated. Some sell expired food too. Apparently some of the expired food stuff end up in the hands of these syndicates that repackage them for resale.
They also get their food from food banks
The same community keep on supporting abu my friend why mara nathi..
You can see that this lady from the health dept is lyng, doesn't even know how kids have died this year alone
They get paid for doing nothing and knowing nothing these people😒🚮
Where is Ramaphosa when things like this are happening ? Cause his Cabinet is not working
Thanks a million times Clement 🤝. I have become a regular to the show now because u ask politicians relevant questions
Mbalula scored an own goal.. even their propaganda specialist can't even protect him..Lusufi is a tactical master.. this gnu is on life support.. 🇿🇦 isn't free cause Palestine is still oppressed & under apartheid.. the government is still failing the black child- five innocent souls are gone just like that and the country is quiet.. soweto we cry with y'all..only revolutionaries can turn all this around..
MBALULA is power hungry and always throws an under the bus😂😂
ANC doesn't exist anymore. 95% are just there for their stomach
When they say they do make inspection its nonsense.
ANC IS THE CURAE IN THIS COUNTRY
We need action
Communities should focus on ensuring that all businesses, including those run by foreign nationals, are compliant with regulations. It's disappointing that the government hasn't made this a priority. Many politicians seem more concerned with their own interests than addressing these issues.
I think it would be just fair to prosecute those who allow their place to be used by these foreigners. We know and have seen business people arrested for employing illegal immigrants, why are these residents who give away their rights to foreign nationals not prosecuted?
U can talk your heart out the problem is the landlords they must stop renting rooms for this people😢😢😢
You must consider the filth in the water as the root evil.
I love how South Africans still have faith on the ANC, fool me thrice - I am loyal and a fool.
Is it anc caused problem or something of our own making?
But this foreigner are still here in our country now one say anything no solutions nothing and this is not there first accidents tjooooo😢this country
No no Lesufi close the spaza shops.
Dont say the community must decide.
You allowed them in our commonalities
No spaza close by Lesufi, they still operating all over, Panyaza he doesn't care
Ennie Did not lose the network she ran away, Clemment was asking simple questions but for her, those questions were hard because her department was not doing its job
This Annie woman kele kaka getting paid for vokol😒🚮
The Question is , who is making these snacks they selling
The ANC guy is trying by all means to defend SG Mbalula and he is too defensive
South Africa is a spaza shop itself. Me, myself and I, says we are in the end and let everyone do themselves. We are all going to die, this temporary life is fought between the righteous and unrighteous... Do what feels right for you...
Shame on you SABC
The ANC do nothing for the township and normally they act after
Did she says it's just this 5? Speaking about dead kids who consumed poisonous food and she couldn't protect them? Please value the lives of ths poor! They are lives too!
tough questions to MMC until she dissapeared without clear answers
That Lady from health said nothing Clement , I'm beginning to ask myself questions in terms of the criteria of appointments, Cry my beloved country 😂😂😂😂
She knows nothing😒
This is always the case with us , people in the townships.We wait for someone or someone's child to die or get sick before we take actions. These foreign traders should be completely removed from our locations before it even gets to a point where we have to deal with deaths caused by their fake ,non-regulated products.Let's forget about the government coming to help us. We are the ones renting out our yards to these traders to come operate , instead of making sure we don't allow them to trade illegaly from the beginning..... Condolences to all the families who lost their loved ones ,our prayers are with you.....
Abahambe Laba lomama ,shes liying
During Boer time township shops were inspected, all government authorities must have 50/50 black and white workers bcs when blacks a alone at work its mess
As for the solution, I think these people should not be allowed to operated unregistered business in our country. They don't even pay tax, not regulated whatsoever like other companies.
They will still say the children did not die from eating snacks from spaza
Sibongile came to defend the anc😂😂 not to answer questions
Lesufi is responsible and should be locked up! 😡
Locked up for what?
You are sick
You're mad
Lesufi is correct my brother, the local community as the direct affected party must join together with all the relevant stakeholders to mitigate the ongoing ill effects of illicit capital monopoly as one government.
ANC must be charged. Not government bc they will use our taxes. From their own pockets.
Did they arest those pakistani guys?
We don't have a government in this country at all, what is the problem with ANC. We are losing children every munite because of this foreigners. Enough is enough 😊😮😅😢 ANC must fall
We dont have government and police that is why we have police forums while there are people earning every month for wearing uniforms to collect bribes while we dying🇿🇦
Yoh this to much 😢😢😢
And the ANC does it all the time. They twist everything to suit themselves
We don't have leaders in this country
The role of government is to listen to the people who voted for it
Food sampling should be done frequently, money to be provided for that.
can SA government stay away from middle east conflicts, we got many problems in the country to deal with.
Corruption at municipality level is so disheartening. One inspector in ELM was silenced,appatently for being vocal and causing discomfort for foreign Spazashop Owners.
A friend once posted on FB about a Spazashop selling Flupack with antibiotics in Sharonlea, next the swimming pool. Reported the matter but a feedback didn't reach her.
But why in Soweto only, something isn't adding up here. I'm telling you truth at some point will reveal. I don't get it why only in Soweto.
its because dudula startede in Soweto just like Soweto uprising, so these foreigners and their hero Julius Malema knows that if they kill the youth of Soweto the rest of SA is gone to foreign nationals
Last week 3 kids same situation in cape Town
Do your research, that's a nonsensical statement Mabena
@@WillamShaukeEast London
i think you on drugs my brother, its happening everywhere
Check. where these. Snacks made.These snacks not found. at retailers
All shops must display a regularly updated food health and safety certificate in their window. If not, report them. This is gov responsibility, not the community.
They gowing to make a fake certificate
Lo anc wathengisa ngathi kudala,
Siyabonga msholozi ,iyobonana ngelinye ilanga
Yizwa lesions gebengu,sidifender uanc
Laba
@@nomusashange8693 Not with a gov stamp.
do we have competent men and woman in these municipalities to carry out the baylaws ? the problem is competency, the officials we have are not qualified
Sometimes they are bribed
all this spaza's must be closed 🔒🔒
The police and health inspectors should start with the wholesales warehouses where they order or buy in bulks that's where the problem comes from
The shops must be inspected, if a tuckshop sold an item that caused death licence must be revoked or shut down the shop. But inspectors are needed.
there's no political will to stop this thing. communities must stop it on their own
These ANC people speak in parables, can’t answer any questions, keeps going around in circles 🤦🏽♂️
Viva SMWX. 😂😂
Is SMWX in government?
@@NgolaNalane No.
No one cares, the voters are gone sir
So the locals are sitting down waiting for the government to shut down these shops while children die?? 😢
Why are people still renting their rdp houses to these people ?
These snacks that. are. sold in spaza. shops are not. found at normal. retailers like shoprite. govt needs to trace where these snacks are made.did govt. visit these factories
If snacks were the cause of death, why has there been no arrests?
How would you arrest illigal immigrants? They flew the scene after incident
Clement worse this MMC's are there for campaigning, they don't make any follow ups.
Just listen to what Panyaza said when they have to investigate he says he'll come back for a report from the community instead of his blue uniform friends and amapanyapanya chasing mozambiquen nationals for passports in salons looking for bribes.
Yesterday the residents of Naledi now jumped into Tladi and the sad part is looting in spaza shops will start again in Soweto through COSAS as it has already begin.
Japan from Jabulani
The MMC is saying that they issue warnings where bylaws have been transgressed but she doesn't say how many so far since January as she alluded.
Finally if health inspectors do inspections quarterly - what are they doing in the other months because they earn salaries on a monthly basis without fail.???
Thats what happens when you regularly visit stellenbosch as a SG of the ANC...
Yeah, these puppets are confused now and they are totally exposed now
The spaza shops are been supplied by their own warehouses which should be inspected for unlawful food and whatever 😢
Makhafola, what a minion! these people hate South Africans. How many dies this year? She is asked - She does not know, she lies. In fact she has not answered any of the questions asked.
Go listen to what she said again but this time, listen objectively and with sense. Instead of being a coward why don’t you put your frustration and anger on the South Africans who rent out the shops and trading license? What do you expect a mere MMC to do about it other than carry out inspections? What else must she do?
@@YT-xk5jl You clearly do not expect much from her and you sound like her fan-boy. The bar is already low. And I listened to her, it was painful. She is useless, and logically very protective of a silly ideology. I haven't heard anything she said that suggests she is in tune with the problem. For God's sake she could not even tell how many kids died in the past year due to these type of poisoning. And she is responsible for HEALTH. You and her deserve each other.
Unite your rand mntu wase mzantsi. You're too dependent on government to solve your problems. Unite, unite, unite!!! Buy in bulk, you can do better than these guys even with R100 per month
Why always soweto?
The have to close sneakes manufacturers factory
MXM..i am so disgusted by this journalist who called xenophobic not so long ago fighting to PREVENT the exact incidents but today they act like this is all new and bad. NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN untill the community take law into their own hands and CLEMENT CALL THEM XENOPHOBIC. As for politicians they just enjoy spotlight at the expense of lost lives now. Come back in 2 weeks on this issue you will see no one from government. Those spaza shops foreigners BRIBE healthy inspectors, SAPS and Politicians
The ANC guy 😅
Campaigns where?
This eff member is just explaining what the health inspector's job description is, and is not really answering your questions, Clement. She just happens to be repeating everyone's role and not explaining the outcomes.🤦
Thos is DEMOCRACY. We must direct the Gvnmnt as voters and tell them our needs and they must deliver. Lesufi is right by coming back to the community to hear from them what they want
He needs to do more than that
AN EFF member may not express any distaste on a proven modus operandi of illegal foreigners in the tuckshop industry.This attitude and behaviour is seen in drug trafficking dealing as well as illicit cigarette.
To tell the truth I've never seen any inspectors in these shops except for police who will take them in their vans and few minutes later they are back fully operating
Lesufi is clearly undermining the gnu with utterances and actions. And you have to wonder what transpired in the meeting
No GNU just agreement between ANC and DA
@@sthembisomthembu395 and other parties. You agree with Zille then.