However, the constantly changing rules and new materials(the ball and the glue) introduced by ITTF have already killed the penholders and this kind of skills and techniques.
If this is really not trolling, slow the video down to 0.25x speed. Especially with that speed it is, bright as day, visible that he was shakehanding when he smashed the ball
3:16 Why Xu Xin stopped playing like this? It's not every time you need to backhand topspin, sometimes you can use the push (shoto), even finalize with it, just like Ma lin.
in todays TT PenHold players, if you don't have a solid RBH, you wont compete VS shakehand players by just blocking and pushing. look at XX now, he has a solid RBH shot when hes in a tight spot, and can pull off a quick topspin rather than pushing it back. but if he has the chance, he will pivot for a FH shot instead.
boy has xu xin's techniques and playstyle changed since then. so many times he just pushed the ball back when today's XX just RBH flicks nearly anything.
We don't see too many players that can win a fair amount of long rallies against Xu Xin. This is one of them. I would say it is almost 50/50. Ma Lin was near the end of his career. Overall, I think Ma is the better player compared to Xu Xin.
Well, you’re comparing a past-prime Ma Lin to a pre-prime Xu Xin which is kinda unfair. Ma Lin retired in 2013, 3 years after this match took place, and Xu Xin only joined the national team in 2006, 4 years before this match, and his prime is generally agreed to be in 2013ish. Ma Lin had more than a decade worth of experience, and I’d argue that since either player is in their prime, experience is the ultimate factor. The fact that a young Xu Xin could best Ma Lin, an amazing tactician, shows Xu Xin’s natural talent, and skill. Sure Ma Lin has the better medal count, but Id say Xu Xin is a better player, but lived in an age full of legends (Wang Hao’s career, Ma Long, ZJK, FZD etc).
Xu Xin is the octopus while Ma Lin is the honey badger. One could recover any shot while the other could initiate any nasty short attack. Amazing match!
So many old school penhold techniques on display here, especially we can see how XX stopped playing alot of old penholder repertoire in order to match new generations of SH playeds. These forehand flicks at 4:15 and 8:19 are particularly coo!
One have to admit that when two penholders play against each other, it's always a lethal battle. Sadly Xu Xin couldn't able to gain much fame in singles coz of intense competition with his counterparts in China but he's one of the most skillful player. Still going strong 👍🏼👍🏼
@@purpose6113this was in 2010, and yes Xu Xin used to use a lot more TPB. Around 2013, Xu Xin’s private coach told him to ditch TPB and focus more on rpb consistency, but before then, Xu Xin used much more TPB in his matches.
许昕这个时候打的多好啊，全台正手加推挡，现在练横打四不像，还把影响了正手。XU played better compared now. at that time his right hand was dominate. nowadays, his right hand is not so powerful, unfortunately his back hand also not so good, and may have a negative effects on his right hand.
The level of skill displayed here is just insane.
However, the constantly changing rules and new materials(the ball and the glue) introduced by ITTF have already killed the penholders and this kind of skills and techniques.
Are you here from Table Skills Xu Xin - Chinese Cloudwalker? :D
@@junyiyu7578 not much
Junyi Yu yep， the purposes of why ITTF doing so is very obvious.
Penhold vs Penhold at its absolute best. Xu Xin plays some beautiful shots at the end to seal the match. What a match!!!
6:09 Ma Lin going shakehand on that smash :O Very clever.
Hector Brown he was penholding during the smash
Larry Shrekker no, he clearly wasn't
Krizbi he was doing a penhold smash, it's bright as day. professionals will rarely ever switch grips
If this is really not trolling, slow the video down to 0.25x speed. Especially with that speed it is, bright as day, visible that he was shakehanding when he smashed the ball
Forgot to mention, you can even see the motion of him switching from PH to SH
Creativity, technique and fight spirit to the highest level
Two penholders = light-speed footwork. What an incredible match. Rarely seen these days as people rely more on BH rallies.
Dan lancar kembali serangan dg lawan kikia
7:43 xu xin´s top spin is so nice :)
The degree of difficult techniques displayed here will probably never be seen again in today's table tennis.
I guess what I'm saying is we likely won't see another penhold with techniques like Ma Lin or Xu Xin.
3:16 Why Xu Xin stopped playing like this? It's not every time you need to backhand topspin, sometimes you can use the push (shoto), even finalize with it, just like Ma lin.
Alan Gonçalves Pinheiro it may need a bit more time, judgement and adjustment to hit the ball like this, compared with the common 'make spin' style
in todays TT PenHold players, if you don't have a solid RBH, you wont compete VS shakehand players by just blocking and pushing. look at XX now, he has a solid RBH shot when hes in a tight spot, and can pull off a quick topspin rather than pushing it back. but if he has the chance, he will pivot for a FH shot instead.
Xu Xin has an amazing sidespin backhand shot. I love it!!
probably one of the best games i have ever seen. so much feeling in one match
It's the greatest TT battle I've seen in my life ☝️👍
06:57 07:43 08:28 xuxinの表面プッシュだ！かっこいい！
просто зверская скорость , движения отточены.. класс!!
boy has xu xin's techniques and playstyle changed since then. so many times he just pushed the ball back when today's XX just RBH flicks nearly anything.
We don't see too many players that can win a fair amount of long rallies against Xu Xin. This is one of them. I would say it is almost 50/50. Ma Lin was near the end of his career. Overall, I think Ma is the better player compared to Xu Xin.
Well, you’re comparing a past-prime Ma Lin to a pre-prime Xu Xin which is kinda unfair. Ma Lin retired in 2013, 3 years after this match took place, and Xu Xin only joined the national team in 2006, 4 years before this match, and his prime is generally agreed to be in 2013ish. Ma Lin had more than a decade worth of experience, and I’d argue that since either player is in their prime, experience is the ultimate factor. The fact that a young Xu Xin could best Ma Lin, an amazing tactician, shows Xu Xin’s natural talent, and skill. Sure Ma Lin has the better medal count, but Id say Xu Xin is a better player, but lived in an age full of legends (Wang Hao’s career, Ma Long, ZJK, FZD etc).
Nothing beats a good match between two crafty penholders :)
One of the highest quality table tennis displayed here
I was with Ma Lin during the whole game
The best penhold vs penhold match is a 1983 WTTC semi between Guo Yue Hua and Jiang Jia Liang. Guo the looper and Jiang the hitter.
Xu Xin is the octopus while Ma Lin is the honey badger. One could recover any shot while the other could initiate any nasty short attack. Amazing match!
best penhold clash so far
俩直板，一左一右对打，太逗了！
直拍打球者的教学片，示范课。步伐，手法，预判，反应，板形控制，变化的多样性等等等等，太精彩了。
Супер матчь просто смотрел с удовольствием
This right here was Xu Xins first Single Pro Tour win.
two of the best penhold players! 😃
I cant find any numbers but xu xin has some freaky long arms for his size... He's reaching shotsnoff the side of the table like its nothing
Insane speed and power, as if in a thrilling action movie!
im still mesmerised with the level shown here. Xu Xin went for imposible counter attacks.
這局好精彩 許昕也太帥了吧😍
The best pen hold table tennis players of the world.
So many old school penhold techniques on display here, especially we can see how XX stopped playing alot of old penholder repertoire in order to match new generations of SH playeds.
These forehand flicks at 4:15 and 8:19 are particularly coo!
One have to admit that when two penholders play against each other, it's always a lethal battle. Sadly Xu Xin couldn't able to gain much fame in singles coz of intense competition with his counterparts in China but he's one of the most skillful player. Still going strong 👍🏼👍🏼
what a match! many great shot, creativity, block, drop shot,...
Величайшие игроки!
Extraordinário. Dois dos maiores caneteiros do mundo, exibindo uma habilidade fantástica.
Xu xin played a lot of traditional backhand back then
What year was this game at?
I always thought xu xin blocked with rpb, I didnt know he uses tbh
@@purpose6113this was in 2010, and yes Xu Xin used to use a lot more TPB. Around 2013, Xu Xin’s private coach told him to ditch TPB and focus more on rpb consistency, but before then, Xu Xin used much more TPB in his matches.
瘋狂側身進攻，現在已經很少見了
Beautiful!
Amazing
Unforgettable
ma Lin Fantastika!
1:58 / 7:43
Nicolas Baraja
미쳤다...... 인간이 아니다 둘 다
Просто потрясающая игра.
6:09 there's no way that shot is getting back!
What a level!
Incredible match!!
Ma Lin still use so much penhold backhand shoto. This is the transition for the latter chinese penhold style like wang hao, which is superior.
Сразу видно,кто будет первый в рейтинге в будущем)
Legend vs legend
Why does xu xin use so much traditional bh in this match?
This game was played in 2010 !!
xu xin has improved since that
in 2010, he didnt have training with wang hao. he does now wich is why his RBH got so much better
O terrível e extraordinário XU-XUN
Просто красавцы
WOW!! Two gods of table tennis...
二人共、人間じゃないよw ショートをあれだけ巧みに使いこなすのに、さらに裏面でバックハンド振るんだから。ストップの巧さやドライブのコースの凄さは真似出来るものじゃない。本当にとんでもない。((((；ﾟДﾟ)))))))
The best match ever!
Incredible
Высший пилотаж.
Amazing match
Боги настольного тенниса
와 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍
每个球都相当于Nba最佳top10
This is like two gods playing table tennis...much more preferable to Fan Zhendong or Ma Long...Xu Xin is the only worthy successor of Ma Lin.
许昕这个时候打的多好啊，全台正手加推挡，现在练横打四不像，还把影响了正手。XU played better compared now. at that time his right hand was dominate. nowadays, his right hand is not so powerful, unfortunately his back hand also not so good, and may have a negative effects on his right hand.
Zhanhui Qi from right hand you mean forehand?
@@kamyarzojaji3526 yes， forehand, sorry for this mistake
길이 남을 명경기~
The summit of penhold table tennis
Cara ambil ser Pendhold yang pas dan bisa juga
역시 쑤신은 나의 히어로♡
Ma Lin barely loses to... Xu Xin (10 - 12), Joo Se Hyuk(9 - 11), Timo Boll (12 - 14), Jun Mizutani (9 - 11)... WHY?
he hates to play choppers.
And he's kinda getting old
Best match of tt
The great
Don't like Ma Lin's game but i have to say he's fantastic
6:09
*Two aliens: the pinnacle of table tennis.*
와 흥미진진하다 레알로
許昕若いなぁ 普通にバックハンド使ってる
今はほとんど使ってないような
这个时候的许昕还在用推挡
Master vs master.
神々の闘い。
machine gun vs machine gun
3:53 a guy just make a noise
这个时候许昕太像马琳了
that ma lin hand strike
今と比べてめちゃくちゃ鳴ってますね
un be lieve able
Like.. suport me
这时候的许昕技战术还没成熟
横打会牺牲正手
馬琳到手的勝利飛了。
許昕的正手比馬琳強，但是兩人的直拍橫打一樣差。
林達浪 這影片至少有7年了，當時的許橫打確實差些，不過這次日本公開賽我發覺他的橫打的反撕精進了不少，橫打的得分率也提高了，雖然不能與王皓相比，但整體更好了些。
@@陳球球-h2v 那时候的许昕的打法，在近台的争抢 近台攻防转换比现在更主动，调对方正手斜线大角，然后在上升期加力推挤直线到对方反手位，能创造很多机会的，后面放弃推挡直拍横打的实力上来了，但又不能和王皓比，似乎有些不上不下
Bu maça kadar hiç Şu Şin'i TPB kullanırken görmedim vay be
TPB ne kanka?
Xu xin hep tpb kullanıyordu be kanka
@@laqatasgig2858 TPB yani "traditional penhold backhand" . Raketin önüyle backhand vuruşu yapmak.
@@tomorinao2434 hep kullanıyordu derken ne zamanlar? Uzun yıllardır sadece RPB kullanıyor backhand için.
Хухин раздавил малинку
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오줌싼다 진짜...와...
6:11