Why I sold my Honda X ADV !
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ส.ค. 2023
- After 6 month of ownership I sold my Honda X-ADV 750. In this video I will tell you why and why I bought a new scooter.
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The most important thing is that you feel good with your bike and get a smile on your face when riding ;-)
My first time listening and watching comment video on x-adv which gave me a kind of new perspective. Nice video quality too. Thanks so much
We were shocked by this news..and of course everyone has his opinion..the bike is strong and eye-catching..regardless of the price..it was very beautiful and tidy..in the world of bicycles you can make modifications to anything you want..we wish you good luck..it has It was a pleasure to follow you during the last period❤️👍😢
Subbed! I've just bought a c400x for my Landscape Photography trips. Great to have found your channel!
Thanks and have a safe ride !
Viel Spaß und gute Fahrt wünsche ich dir mit deinem neuen Scooter! 👍
Have a safe ride with Neo! Good choice I like the BMW C 400 GT 🤙🤙
Thanks for all the videos about the Honda X-ADV. Very professional with a lot of practical infos.
I have my X-ADV since June this year and had before a Suzuki Burgman 650. I‘m very happy with the Honda, but you’re right. It is expensive.
I wish you good luck with the BMW 👍
I love my X-ADV but the Burgman was something special. It will always be in my heart.
Thanks a lot, have a safe ride!
Your riding comfort is the most important thing.. Congratulations & good luck
Absolutely right, thanks a lot, have a safe ride :-)
@@Marc.Stonesthe weight for moving it is high if you do it with dct innested..if you turn off the engine, x adv is absolutely a medium weight..and the x adv is well balanced bike
@@Marc.Stones yes now you have a lighter scooter..but you don t have a premium BIKE. I don t think you can say ti have a bike for touring or a bike for going with a good speed for all the EU in 2 up...400 gt is almost a city scooter 😢😢
Hallo und herzlichen Glückwunsch! Ich kann deine Argumente nachvollziehen, bleibe aber trotzdem bei meinem X-ADV. Den habe ich mir als 2019er Modell mit gerade mal 150 km vor 8 Wochen gekauft und bin, vor allem nach dem letzten Wochenende im Harz, total begeistern. Die Honda hat jetzt 2000 km runter. Ich habe noch kein Gerät gefahren, welches so sicher, so schnell und mit so viel Schräglage um die Kurven fliegt. Dabei bleibt der Verbrauch unter 4 Liter. Das Optimierungspotenzial bei meinem Modell ist ja bekannt. Machen lassen, muss ich noch die Sitzbank. Da sind 400 km und 6 oder 7 h im Sattel eine Tortour. Für 40 andere Biker mit zum Großteil viel stärkeren Maschinen (Ducati, BMW, KTM) war es jedenfalls eine Überraschung, was das Ding alles kann und zum Glück gab es es mehr kurvige Passagen als lange Geraden. Ich freue mich jedenfalls auf weitere Touren mit der X-ADV im nächsten Jahr. Dieses Jahr müssen noch ein, zwei andere Mopeds bewegt werden. Ach ja, die Tunneltasche. Bei 30 Grad draußen und strammer Fahrt wird es dadrin gefühlte 40 Grad. Alles was da drin transportiert wird, sollte das abkönnen.
Viel Spaß mit der BMW und mach weiter mit deinen Videos.
Vielen Dank Wolfgang für dein Feedback. Mit der Sitzbank hast du absolut recht. Ich wünsche dir weiterhin viel Freude mit deiner X ADV und sichere Fahrt 👍🏻👍🏻🏍️
Muchas gracias por los subtitulos en español 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻👍🏻✌🏻🙋🏻
Un saludo enorme desde Zaragoza (España )
I have several BMW’s well three different model GS but last year bought a C400GT and love it. Although I love riding the GS the C400 probably gets more use than the rest. It rides really well, my wife goes on the pillion and finds it really comfortable as well even at Highway speeds that it manages easily. I bought mine used two years old but with only 390 miles (627km) and looked like new. Even though I’m very happy with this one my local BMW dealer has a new one and am thinking about selling this one and getting the newer version. After watching you videos last year, the other channel I bought the Shad expandable top case and find this really useful for keeping our helmets or getting some shopping. Look forward to seeing your next trip👍
The BMW C 400 GT is a good choice. The new model has some technical improvements like e gas. My next trip follows soon. Have a safe ride 🙂👍
Do BMW manufacture C-600 GT?
@@oferzeira8125 think it’s the C650GT and the sport version was badged C600 although think it may have had the same engine as the GT at 647cc. It’s a good scooter but don’t think they make it anymore although I may be wrong there. I have a friend who has two and loves them.
How many miles does yours have? Do you find the maintenance straight forward and is it reliable? What’s considered high mileage on BMW scooters?
@@clayfarnet970 Not sure what’s considered high mileage on a scooter, my one only has a few thousand at the moment with no problems so far. I don’t do any work myself just get serviced at the local BMW dealer. I have a friend who has the C650GT with about 50k, does all his own servicing and has not had any problems so far. I think the belt needs changing at 12k not sure I’ll have it that long but if I have maybe that’s when my can help out, think that can be a bit pricey at the dealer.
Haha u make me think twice to replace my C400GT to XADV 750. Anyway, appreciate yr sincere review. Kudos!
It depends on what you want. The X-ADV is the scooter + motorcycle replacement. Its perfect for that. If you need a full on scooter or a full motorcycle then it might not be for you. The big plus for me is offroading which is a lot of fun with it.
Ha, ha, welcome (back) to the BMW family! I have never regretted buying my C400 scooter. Many happy and safe miles on NEO3! Maybe we can go for a tour one day in Boston or Germany! Cheers!
Hi Dan, yes, back to the BMW :-D A tour would be great. I will start my next road trip in 2 weeks. Cheers Marc
Hi Marc....im just curious. Can you rent a C400 in Berlin for going on tour?@@Marc.Stones
It is not possible to rent a C 400 in Berlin, even buying is difficult, because the delivery time is very long. :-)
Same problem here in Boston! Shipping the scooter to destination seems impractical.@@Marc.Stones
Im thinking of an X-ADV to replace my Africa Twin. I've had the Twin for several years and use it nearly every day. I've done Alpine trails and long road trips and its been fantastic. Problem is i mostly use it as a daily ride to work which is all short urban journeys. I'm trail riding a lot less. I'm riding with my wife a lot more and I think the X-ADV would be a better choice for the majority of my riding. I've tested an ATAS with the dct and loved that. Choices, choices...
Hello, I did sale my X-ADV 750 3 days ago for exactly the same reason : its weight ! I am sad to have sold it (although after having owned it for 2 years) because it’s really a fantastic motorbike but, age coming (I am 73 now) I had to be more than careful at low speed in the traffic.
The day after the sale I bought a ADV 350 which is 50 kgs less and I can ride it the same way as a bike. Of course the difference is huge, but I am now more relax and comfortable, time will help me to forget 😎
Thanks for your feedback and have a safe ride
The biggest error about the Honda X-ADV 750 is, that most people think that it is "half a scooter, half a motorcycle". Big Foot rests, a small space where normally the tank is and some storage place under the sattle, does not make it a scooter. A Harley Electra Glide has the same amount of scooter attributes as the Honda has. The "Swiss Army knife"X-ADV replaced my Africa Twin and Electra Glide and I never had that much motorcycle fun in over 40 years and now 75.000 km. Yeah it is heavy for 55 Horsepowers but still 140 kg lighter than the Harley, and yeah it is absolutely great for that kind of legal German Offroading ;-)
Anyway I understand your position as a scooter man.
Thanks for your feedback :-)
Hallo ScooVenture, ich bin ein neuer Follower aus Belgien und fahre die diesjährige Honda Forza 350. Ich stimme Ihnen voll und ganz zu, dass die 750er Forza Modelle ziemlich schwer sind. Sie sind fast besser dran, wenn Sie eine Africa Twin kaufen. Die meisten Kilometer, die ich fahre, sind immer Landstraßen und Nebenstraßen und da ist meine 350er Forza mehr als zufriedenstellend, leicht im Handling, ganz zu schweigen vom Kraftstoffverbrauch. Sie geben ab Werk einen Durchschnittsverbrauch von 3,3 bis 3,4 pro 100 km an, bei meinem Fahrstil komme ich auf 2,6 pro, wenn ich gemütlich auf den kleinen Landstraßen fahre. Glückwunsch zu deinem neuen BMW, übrigens eine gute Wahl 👍 und ich freue mich auf die kommenden Videos. Grüße Erwin
Hallo Erwin, mit dem Forza 350 hast du eine gute Wahl getroffen, riesiger Stauraum und dein Verbrauch von 2,6 Litern ist ja nicht zu schlagen. Die Wendigkeit auf Landstraßen ist sehr gut und er ist auch gut in der Stadt nutzbar. Viel Spaß und gute Fahrt mit deinem Forza. Viele Grüße Marc
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Yikes! 18000 euro that was a lot of money for something that is not giving you what you want. I am glad you have found the machine for you. I came to the XADV from a traditional motorcycle background so it gives me the motorcycle feeling with the comfort of a scooter (now I am getting older). Having tried many scooters and as my wife is the pillion she also had a say in what was purchased and the XADV was found to be the most comfortable, so that was that! Enjoy your riding.
If you are riding a lot with your wife the pillion comfort is very important and happy wife happy life :-) Enjoy your ride with the X ADV
I've recently bought an X-ADV but was also looking at the BMW C400. I really like DCT and that's ultiately why I went for the Honda. Apparently there's very little difference in performance between the 750 & 350 Honda ADV's. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and I'm looking forward to seeing more BMW videos 😎
The DCT is really amazing, a lot of fun. About performance, you are right up to 100 km/h there is no huge difference.
There is a huge difference between the 350 and 750. The have a completly different layout and design.
@@K0nst4nt1n96 I very specifically mentioned performance, not overall design.
@@TheDervMan i have both on my own mate done about 3k on each and they are different on performance, ride feeling, brakes, suspension everywhere and they have quite similar look for people they don’t know them. Simple saying 350 is 100% fantastic but big moped and x adv is 75% bike and 25% big scooter
You made the wright choice. I drove a c400gt for 39000 km comunting an that was the most miserable bike I ever had ( it broke down a lot and is very expensive to maintain) Now I have the adv. And I must admit that this is the better choice. The cost of ownership of an xadv is far less then a c400gt. I have 18000km on the xadv and only had to visit the workshop for normal maintenance.
Enjoy your neo3😊
I m on 8k km with my 18 months Adv 350.
Considering the c400gt
I will have to go and test ride it.
Please make a review with the screen functions etc
Thanks
Hi, thanks, you find a video with subtitles on my other channel: th-cam.com/video/SISZkleUNgA/w-d-xo.html
Hey Marc, sorry for being off-topic but that's why I decided to step up by getting the CB500X. It's "somewhere in the middle", does almost everything and ptovides a good mileage.
Of course I clearly understand your choice to go back to the Luftwaffe (BMW😅)! The C400 is a very nice and solid scooter. Remember : it saved your life that day. Imagine being there on a smaller scooter...
So, cheers my friend, I 'll keep on following you👍
Hi Dimitris, the CB500x is really a great bike for a good price. It really saved my day in France when I had my accident :-) I like the comfort of the BMW the X ADV is more a motorcycle. I hope you are fine my friend, have a nice weekend :-)
@@Marc.Stones you too Britton!
I (aged 63) tested the honda NC750X, the X-ADV, the Forza 750 and the NT1100 DTC in one day with my wife as a passenger (aged 67) at an expo. The most comfortable was the Forza 750 for me and my wife. But the most efficient was the NT1100. When accelerating the NT1100 felt vibrations. Not at all with the 750s. Honda's pricing policy is sometimes strange because the full option X-ADV costs the same as the NT1100. I had an Africa Twin DCT 1000cc for two years, but it was too high for my wife and too abrupt for me during acceleration. The DCT sometimes dared to chock during acceleration. The NT1100, on the other hand, is much smoother when accelerating. On the X-ADV there, the seat was thinner and the passenger footpegs were way too high than on the Forza. This is because the Forza 750 has a lower exhaust. Regardless of the Forza's thicker seat, the scooter is lower than the X-ADV. Which probably gives the feeling of more comfort but also more stability. It is a pity that BMW no longer has a 650 cc scooter in its range. The 400cc is certainly a nice scooter but a class too light for me. Enjoy your new acquisition.
Thanks a lot for your feedback. I had no chance to test ride the Forza 750, think you are right about the more comfortable seating position. Maybe the NT1100 is the best for long distance touring and you get a lot of motorcycle for your money. Have a safe ride!
I couldn't agree more, even though 98% people like it but we are the 2%.
This made me recall when I sold my brand new BMW GSA 1250 after 6 months, the bike is 200% fantastic but I had no good feeling ridding it but scary just because it is bulky. Then I bought HD Pan America 1250 which I loved it as I have been ridding HD for more than 20 some years.
Used to consider to buy BMW C400GT but wanted to have bigger cc so I am about to buy the Honda ADV 750.
Have fun with the beemer!
Thanks for your feedback and have a safe ride :-)
Obrigado por compartilhar sua opinião e quando tiver o vídeo da C 400 gt gostaria de ver.
por aqui no brasil vão lançar no final em dezembro mas o preço não é muito bom por volta 12.000,00 euros
very informative video, thnx
How about considering the adv350? Wish you had the opportunity to give a review on it ;) still enough power and half the price
Ofcourse as a daily commuter
Im waiting for mine 😊
I considered the adv 350 too, great commuter, lots of under seat storage, good engine, but my seating position is better on the BMW :-)
Hallo Marc,
viel Spaß mit Neo3. Ich warte nach wie vor auf meine c400x. Sie soll aber anscheinend noch diese oder nächste Woche bei meinem Händler an kommen.. LG Angelo
Vielen Dank Angelo, dann ist es ja bald bei dir soweit 👍🏻👍🏻 Lg Marc
@@Marc.Stones Danke kannst mir Ja die Daumen drücken das es zeitnah klappt.
Why not you get the Forza 750. It's also a DCT gearbox
Also heavy and expensive :-) For the same price I can get 2 bikes.
Congratulations with New bike. But litle regret to know that your Honda review Will not be relised anymore. By the way Honda with Last soft update introdused turn by tyrn navigation ))
Thanks a lot :-)
I can completely understand your decision. I've lived in Germany for 9 years and if you really don't go off-road you don't need a bike like X-ADV. On the other hand, in Croatia, the roads are not as nearly as good as they are in Germany, especially in the cities, and this is one of the main reasons I will get the Honda, it's a perfect commuter for me personally, except the price, which is really high and a reason for me to go slightly used. P S. I have a sports bike when I want the thrills 😁
Keep up the good work!
Hello Marc and thanks for your info’s. I agree: the sitting position is very bad on the XADV.. I am 183 cm and not finding (have only done 200 km so far) a good sitting position. How did you upholster and remodel your Sitzbank? Higher? Further back?
Thanks for any tipps
Christoph
Hi, the seat was upholstered a bit more straight and the curvy shape was not that strong, so you sit a bit more back.
@@Marc.Stones thank you Marc
I’m a viewer from Shanghai, China. Like you, I used to own a bmw 400gt. I saw your video and changed to a Honda xadv750. Have you ever considered changing to a yamaha Tmax? I also think that BMW’s seats are much more comfortable than xadv. Most of my time It's all commuting in the city, DCT will have setbacks when it is congested
If you ride mainly in the city, I would prefer the BMW because it's lighter and easier to handle. I never considered the T MAX, too expensive, I would go for a motorcycle for this price.
@@Marc.Stones In China, the price of tmax and xadv is about the same. After watching your video, I was also considering whether to switch back to bmw. I switched to bmw at the time because the shock absorbers were too hard. There are many potholes on the road in Shanghai. I often drive my wife, so it is not very comfortable.
You can get some shock absorbers from YSS for the C 400 GT. They are adjustable.
@@Marc.Stones Thanks bro
How about Piaggio 400 ??
I am 202 cm, i used to Drive Piaggio 250 and it was kind of perfect, good wind protection, uused to Drive like motorcycle....
If you want everything please try the new Tmax, it has everything for us older men. You have sporting feel, smiling face from start to finish, comfortable, storage and looks from everyone. Happy riding.
Ok, kommt überraschend, so schnell! Warum es ist denn kein 650 GT geworden? Der würde mich ja total reizen.
Der wird leider nicht mehr gebaut und ist in den Servicekosten sehr hoch.
Another good buy, thanks for sharing Marc, ride safely my friend: Russ 👍🏼🛵
Thanks Russ, I am looking forward to my next road trips with NEO. Cheers my friend :-)
Did you consider on buying Honda ADV 350? Have you tried it? If you have how does it compare with BMW?
I tried it, but the riding comfort for me is better on the BMW. More leg room and more comfortable seat.
@@Marc.Stones I'll take your answer in considiration since Im little bit taller than you and if you say that you have more leg room on BMW than on an ADV than that has to count for something.
Probaste la Voge sr4max? Es como la BMW C400x, pero más barata y con más espacio debajo del asiento.
Y la beverly 400? Yo tengo la beverly 350 y estoy muy contento. No sé si cambiarla por la beverly 400 o por la voge sr4max.
Muchas gracias desde España. ✌🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻🙋🏻
Just bought myself an ADV 350.
Je crois que la solution pour toi c'était le forza 750....
Tu retrouves le moteur /boîte xadv et mieux adapté pour la ville, plus bas, meilleur protection au vent, meilleur position des pieds 👍
What about Honda Forza 750 for example? Any opinions, experience?
A very good scooter, but I was not able to get one for a test ride.
I had C650S and It wasn't good at all. After 150 km/h very much vibrations. Also few faults, bigger end smoller. But I doubt on BMW quality after that.
very interesting video- thank you very much for very informative information. so months after that - do you feel the difference in power between 400 and 750?
Yes, of course there is difference in power, but the 34 hp are enough for my kind of usage
The question would be " didnt you imagine that all those accessories could make heavier your xadv? I mean, what did you expect with almost 30kg extra? Did you consider to remove things that you claimed to not be necessary?For me weight is not a big deal, if you stay vanilla as i prefer. I don't go off-road neither but i love the possibility to push a bit more and i like to have more bullet in a gun when i go for an adventure trip, even if it is planned to be zero-off road.
By the way, c400 is a great scooter and if you enjoy it, if you ride it happy and relaxed, i am glad for you and i wish you a safe and joyfull driving. Congratulations for you new bike
Thanks for your feedback, the helmet is a HJC RPHA 70. Cheers Marc
What's your opinion about BMW c400 gt vs Beverly 400hpe? Thanks!
For me the BMW is more comfortable when you are a tall rider.
Was hältst du von der Forza? Gruß Eddy
Die bin ich bisher noch nicht gefahren, ist aber bestimmt super. Grüße Marc
@@Marc.Stones wäre doch mal ein probefahrt Video wert oder? 😉😅
Man bekommt nur leider keinen für eine Testfahrt, ging mir beim X ADV auch so :-)
But the storage under the seat for the BMW is somewhat misleading. With the under seat storage in the flex position you cannot start the scooter as it needs to be up or else it will rub against the rear tire. Am I wrong about that?
You are right about the flex case.
hello whats thre brand of your helmet, it looks great, which model?
Hi, it's a HJC RPHA
Nice new scooter
Actually bikes have to bought with the usage purposes. İ'm very happy with my xadv, i live out of the city and i won't be comfortable with a scooter. Good luck with the the scooter...
Hi, do you know which parts numbers are necessary to install givi trekker topcase in bmw c400gt?
Thank you.
Hi, you need Givi SR 5136 and SR 5130
Why not the new Transalp ?! A Jack-of-all-trades. 80% road, 20% off. So mainly road. Cheers.
What is the brand and model of your helmet? I like it quite a lot
It is a NEXX helmet
@@Marc.Stones Thank you for the info!
Sold mine too....after 10 months for the exact same reasons:)
W E I G H T - finally someone talks about it the right way. If the bike was lighter I would LICK it !!!... but at this weight I'm not getting anywhere close to it.
Absolutely agree, way too heavy
You sold it??? I can’t believe it man😮
You bought the wrong scooter, shuda went for the T Max tech max.
I sold mine when I got really bad lower back pain after half an hour so, every time.
Did you had this on other motorcycles too?
Looks like suspension needed a tune for you
Did you consider the Honda nc750 DCT ?
Not really, I do not like the look 😁
Why you dont look Honda Adv 350? I think is better and chiper with lot of real space under the seat + top box
I tried it, but the seating position is not comfortable for me.
What is your height, Marc? I am 187cm tall and I have BMW C650 Sport, was just bored and looking for a potential upgrade...
Hi, I am 188 cm tall.
Tmax?
How is it that you did not think of buying the Honda Forza 750?
I had no chance to test ride it.
@@Marc.Stones It seems to me that it could be a good fit for you. That is why i asked
I had the c400x and loved it comuting 22 miles per day each way, I ride the NC750x DCT which is my fvourite, like you said on the X ADV I rode the new one for the 1st time a great bike but I would not buy it, I would buy the GT400 BMW the spec on them are fantastic and there quick off the mark, the seating is really comfy, Great vid
You are right, the C 400 GT is a very comfortable scooter. Thanks for your feedback 👍
Hi, could you share your helmet model?
It's a HJC RPHA 70 Carbon
Imate preveč denarja in ne veste kaj bi pravzaprav radi!
I can't decide between the ADV350 and the C400X
I would go for the ADV 350
A Chinese made motorcycle? How does it compare to a vespa gts300?
Technically much better than the Vespa, but of course the Vespa is better looking 😁
China is the larger of the two first-rate manufacturer nations.
Noooooo😊
Hello Marc. - That's a big surprise, that you sold your Honda scooter. - Did you buy a BMW again?
Hi, yes, it‘s a C 400 GT again 😀
@@Marc.Stones Than we can say: "Never change a winning team!" 👍
Gibt's das auch in Deutsch ?
th-cam.com/video/T6OKjOq5tX4/w-d-xo.html
Have you tried a kymco ak550 ? Very nice ,comfortable, fast and handles curvey roads very good.
The premium model has heated grips , cruise control and a power windshield.
I have test-ridden a completely new one. It seemed a bit sluggish from the start, but the flickering dashboard Noodoe was a total killer to my sensitive eyes. Pass. Had a T-Max 530 Ironmax 2015 instead - best styling of them all, limited edition. Pinnacle of T-Maxes IMHO.
Ansonsten muß ich sagen, daß Du den X-ADV ohne Probefahrt gekauft hast, wundert mich nicht... Probefahrten bei den Honda-Rollern ist ein echtes Problem... ich verstehe gar, nicht wo Honda da die Arroganz hernimmt, sich so eine schlecht Versorgung zu erlauben. ;-)
Tja, sie verkaufen ja scheinbar dennoch genug von dem Modell 😉 ist dann aber für den Käufer immer ein Risiko.
Nun, ich habe den Honda X-ADV probegefahren, und war begeistert. Warum ging das in Deutschland nicht. Und wenn du so viel Geld ausgegeben hast, war der Wertverlust sicher sehr gross. Für mich passt der Honda X-ADV sehr gut. Hatte ich vorher doch eine Harley Road-King gefahren, die war 100 kg schwerer🙂 Bin mitlerweile 71 Jahre und suchte etwas leichteres und wegen meinen Knien, ist die Honda ideal. Auch von der Leistung, weil ich mit Freunden und Kollegen auf Touren fahre, da komme ich gut mit. Weiterhin gute Fahrt auf der BMW! Liebe Grüsse aus der Schweiz.
@@Schwallermann Vielen Dank :-) Viele Grüße aus Berlin und gute Fahrt mit deinem X ADV
Die sind halt immer ausverkauft es ist schwer überhaupt noch einen zu bekommen.
Gutes Video, leider nicht in deutscher Sprache.
Es gibt natürlich deutsche Untertitel.
@@Marc.Stones das ist ein schwacher Trost.
Yeah, exactly. Chinese made scooter with BMW logo on it. Still hugely overpriced. Potential customer should think twice before making any scooter buying decision. Throwing money out of the window. Personally I would like to go for motorcycle which is much much better option for thousand of reasons. And lastly of course I must admit that is still my point of view only..
CVT is the most significant innovation in the motorcycling. How many kms you've run on a decent size CVT ? (>300cc)
You spemt all that money in 6 months for a scooter that you realized you dont like? In the first place you didnt ask yourself if you wanted to go offroad? Then after buying you still bought alot of acceossries. And you want comfort. Bmw scooter is best for you. Looks boring! X adv looks alot better. But for practically on your situation then I can see why you chose bmw scooter.
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