Review & Demo - Marie's Chinese Painting Colors 🎨
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
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✒ Materials used in this video
Marie's Chinese Painting Colors
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Royal and Langnickel Zen brush, round, size 8
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Bee watercolor cotton paper
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Strathmore Ready Cut Watercolor Paper, 5x7
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Painter's tape
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Pentel Brushpen
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Music :
"Ambiment" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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I first used these nearly fifty years ago! They were the only paint you could get where I lived, and I was grateful to have them. Unlike western watercolours these one did ok on ordinary drawing paper, called bristol board, and even worked ok on the cheapest of papers. This I believe was due to the very different binder, which is I think an animal glue. The best use I found for them was direct onto a white washed indoor wall! not modern indoor paint, but more like lime wash.But really they are closer to gansai type paint than watercolour. With the very fine papers from the far east these perform well, but I think there is also a more professional grade of Maries for doing the very fine and detailed type Chinese and Japanese painting, these are more for the expressive style characterised by very loose brush work in a flowing style, like the horse on the box. The better kind are labelled as water colours and are quite a bit more expensive. Having said that I remember doing some very detailed paintings of birds, rabbits and other small animals.
As a Chinese, I have to tell the truth,it’s not watercolor but Chinese traditional color,it’s semi-opaque, low chrome, it’s not well at mixing.
Can you please tell what the binder is in these paints? Animal glue or some kind of starch? Thank you
@@gabriellaritaart Hello, most chinese paints made for chinese styled painting use a gelatin binder like animal glue
So is it acrylic, guoche, or oil based paint?
I have been using these paints for over 10 years for Chinese painting. These are my go to for sumi painting. They should not be called watercolor because they don’t behave like western watercolors. On rice paper, which is traditionally used for Chinese paintings, these paints work the best. Western watercolors don’t perform as well on Chinese paper. It is just different mediums for different techniques.
I agree! They don't do the paints a service by calling them watercolors.
@@EveBolt Marie's has watercolors, the came in a blue box. The yellow box is for chinese painting,as the other user said.
After watching a lot of videos where there was separation problems in some cheaper brands of tube paints, I tried to come up with a hack to help. The night before I open problematic or unfamiliar tube, I stand it cap-side-down. New or mostly full tubes will usually stay upright on their own but I put mine a cup or container to prevent them from tipping over. During the night, any excess binder should float to the top while the paint collects down at the cap. This doesn't solve the un-mixed binder problem so you can expect that the paint that comes out will be thick and/or chunky. At that point though, you can add gum arabic or water to thin it to the right consistency. Hope it helps. 😁
I have this set too. I’ve tried to use them as regular watercolors, but I enjoy using them for Chinese painting techniques. I’m still a beginner at it, but it’s been very relaxing and fun. 😊
I am an American who lived in China for 12 years. I was very fortunate to find a native Chinese art teacher who taught me Gong Be Hua. I used Marie's Chinese Watercolor paints on rice paper and on Silk.
Ooooh, that's really neat! Have you kept the practice?
that is their student palette, they also gave a "Fine" palette which is promoted as artist grade. As you noted the Chinese paints are opaque and traditionally used wet as opposed to dry in the palette. My daughter had the same set you have for a college art course exploring painting styles around the world but they were not liquid like most of yours, so I think you may want to contact Marie's to discuss this issue. I tried them out and found the smell had dissipated in a short time and the cost was minimal (thanks going out to the professor for that parent surprise!!) but I don't use them as I prefer transparent pigments. I admire Marie's for clearly identifying that their paints are meant for painting in the eastern tradition as opposed to some other paint companies that produce paints for artists who paint in the eastern watercolor style (such as Turner's and Holbein) yet broadly advertise their palettes as being transparent when the majority of the paints included are indisputably opaque.
I tried them before and came to the exact conclusion that you did. I'll still use them. But they either have to be used as they were meant to be used or experimented with a bit
Hello, thanks for this useful review! I recently discovered your channel and really enjoy your down to earth yet professional approach.
I have these and they are Chinese traditional pigments and are nice but Marie's makes watercolor sets that are very beautiful too.
Ooh my gosh! This is actually what we used in chinese class with rice paper. Ahh nostalgia
Did you enjoy the paints back then? :)
@@EveBolt the result on the rice paper is much better than the normal watercolor. BTW most of Chinese paint are semi opaque and need a lot of water to dissolve them first in order to have better consistency.
Thank you. Very informative. Your opinion and sharing is appreciated.
Thank you very much! :)
I see so many racist reviews by people not understanding foreign paints and painting practises and I think you did a great job of explaining everything in a respectful way in your video
Companies need to stop advertising them as watercolors, when they simply aren't.
(Same goes for the Japanese Gansai Tambi that are pretty popular)
I’m so happy now that I did not order these! Thank you for the review!
Thank you for this review. I just got a set of these paints a few weeks ago. I bought the 24-color set.
I was surprised at how your paint came out of the tubes. My paints don’t behave that way and they also don’t smell.
I agree that they don’t work supremely well for wet on wet techniques but I love the vibrant colors so that more than makes up for it, to me.
Hi! Did you get the watercolors or the Chinese painting colors? If you got the watercolors, that might explain the different formula! :)
I am interested in traditional Chinese Art and have considered getting these. For the price and my intended use, I am not concerned about the drawbacks you mention but that information is very helpful. I am actually considering trying some color Inksticks first. I have a black inkstick and an inkstone and the stone isn't expensive enough that I am concerned with anything scratching it. So cheap tourist type colored inksticks would be ok. As a hobby painter this is just something to play with for me. If I want to do a little more serious work (and I do occasionally), I have Sennelier, not that I am stuck on any particular brand or snobbish about art materials but they are nice. Anyway, interesting video, thanks!
it's designed for Chinese painting.. Different ways to tap actually..
I'm glad I didn't get the box color you got, which is marketed as the Masters set on eBay and Amazon. I bought the extra fine set from jerry's arterama which comes in a blue box. They behave like western watercolors and come out very thick from the tube, mix well and have no smell. They were $8 for 18. Try the blue set it's actually very good...and I usually use sennelier and grumbacher finest, qor and Daniel Smith.
Thanks for the info! I'll keep an eye out for that specific set! :D
This basic set is mainly for Chinese painting. It works differently than Western Water Colour. Marie's Masters set on the other hand can be compared to the regular water colour paints. Easy mix, run well on wet etc. Get 18 instead of 12.
Thanks, Eve. Nice review.
Thank you! :)
@@EveBolt Just subscribed. Late to the party, but looking forward to getting caught up on your videos.
Some of colors are opaque and others more translucent... they are not watercolours, they are for gong bi or traditional chinese painting on xuan paper and it's not the best use to apply them just like watercolour... you can paint layers of transparent colour over gray tones of ink, then use the opaque colors (white, yellow..) to paint over details... look for gong bi painting, peony painting...
Well those look interesting and pretty opaque. Were those watercolors or gouache? Your painting was lovely though, it shows a lot how much practice you had with different paints and how skilled you are :)
Nor watercolor nor goauche, those are intended for painting over rice paper.
go for marie's master watercolour, this is for primary school kids, its chinese tradition drawing paints.
I bought the paint and i havent tried it out but i hope ITS amazing!..
Edit:I know it work Like other paint cuz i litterky buyed them in person '-'. I didnt biught the water color one instead i got the acrylic paint cuz idk how to use watercolor 😀
Hope you enjoy it! :D
I am telling u about its real price in asia, u can buy it in 1.5$ set.Its probably student grade watercolor. And frankly saying i dont use it. I use either Maries ARTIST Acrylic or Poster color. Acrylic 300ml Jar costs around 4$ and Poster 100ml Jar cost 1.3$. Its even cheaper in Mainland China domestic market. Both color quality is pretty good.Specially Acrylic. Its sad that u cant get them in that lower price in Canada or US.
I've never heard of them. Was the shipping expensive?
In the tubes it literally says 5ml though
Iuh, stinky paints! I have some Talens Gouache, that is stinky. But it is more like something rotting in the tube than chemical smell :D
The Talens gouache is really stinky indeed, as is their Rembrandt tube paint, for some reason. No one likes stinky paints T_T
I probably won't be getting these. I'm very sensitive to art supplies fumes and such.
Better to skip them, then!! There are MANY more art things to spend money on XD
They are Chinese watercolors. And a cheaper brand I believe.
No, those are not watercolors. They are intended for chinese painting over rice paper.
they are stinky because as I guess the animal binder stinks,which is common in traditional Chinese paint.
"they separate, and they stink!" oooooh! Sign me up! LOL nope.
Estás no son acuarelas, son pigmentos de pintura tradicional china!!!
I got my set at a garage sale for $3
I just bought this sh$t. Thank you for letting me know I’m not gonna like it!!!
Eww!
Both you and the paints will be disappointed if you use these like Western watercolors. Chinese paints are more similar to gouache, but still have differences. They are best kept in the tube rather than cured like Western watercolors. The binding agent is typically glue, and reactivating with water isn't going to get you back to the ideal texture. These paints have low flow by design because they are meant for use with unsized (read not starched) paper. For this Marie's line, it uses synthetic and natural pigment sources; there is a more expensive line of natural only pigments. Traditional Chinese paints are colorfast and the opaque colors are intended to be able to be visible over Chinese black ink. Totally at odds with the Western transparent colors application characteristics, which you found out firsthand. 🫤