Gday, best video I’ve seen so far, I’ve got the 2011 VE series 2 with 150kms and time for a service, the dealership did it last and near had to give a kidney and left nut to pay the bill, thanks for you help, cheers
Hi Mate Geeting my VE 6L50 serviced next week, do you need to completely flush all the old fluid out of these transmissions or is dropping the pan enough?
@@YepThatsIt , all done, your videos are very helpful, I did make a bit of a mess as working with car ramps and stands. There was a bit of muck over magnet and oil quite dark. Thanks again.
I've done this service, filled with Penrite oil that meets GM specs, correct temp etc, drove car, auto slips after slowing down to turn into another street. Check oil.....low.....wait to get temp to correct range....ad oil, back on the road.....still slips. Did everything as per video including the new position of magnet, new aftermarket filter.....same as A C Delco that was replaced. VE 2011 SV6 130,000km. What next please.
hi, was there any issue previously? what was fluid condition? sometimes if fluid is very dark/old/burnt it is slightly thicker than new trans fluid, so if you have internal pressure leaks then new fluid can make it worse. also all depends on service history, mileage, amount of debris/swarf in trans pan and on magnet. cheers
@@YepThatsIt Thanks for the reply. Oil condition was pretty good. No smell or bad colour. No issues before. I changed the 3 timing chains etc, all other fluids, so did auto service. Did my time in the late 70's, HQ-HZ, XY-XE etc. Not much muck in the pan at all, cleaned up real well, magnet was a bit thick with build up, replaced the same way you did, as all the magnet type trannies I have done. Will be looking at car again this Friday. Even though I have replaced oil as per temp & level, I may have overlooked the capacity for the torque converter. I'm pretty spot on with my levels normally, but this is the first one I have changed without the good old dipstick ! Maybe I'm the dipstick & have stuffed up somewhere ! Also, checked trans temp at pan, side of box & oil coming back out of drain hole. Got 3 different readings. Pan was the coolest within 30 to 50C, side of box was showing 80C & oil flowing out was 65C with engine running. Also did not replace the seal up in the tube as the spare parts guy, who used to service autos like you, said if the filter came away with a bit of effort, there is normally no reason to change it. My filter was tight & firm & required a bit of effort to pull down. Looked up tube, seal looked great, could not feel any damage, new filter fitted nice & tight as it should & as per video. Surely that seal couldn't be giving this slipping problem ? I think I'm still low on oil somehow, even though it was showing to be full. Thanks for your interest.
Update, 29.11.2021, put car back up on 4 jack stands, everything level. Gear box temp showing 47C, pan showing 35C. Removed drain plug......no oil ! Used another 2 litres, with engine running, in Drive, wheels turning etc. Temp rose a bit, within 30-50C. Oil started overflowing, let drain a little, replaced bolt whilst some oil trickling out, test drove.....happy days, car is fixed. When I did it previously, oil was coming out, yet tranny slipped. I did run the engine, but did not put into Drive like I did this time. Torque Converter probably took some oil from previous fill & my temps were a little too hot. This time, all good. Job done !
I've been watching similar videos, and they recommend NOT measuring the temperature at the pan, but to use your scan tool trans temp reading. I don't have that on my scan tool, so how long do you let it idle? And do you go through all the gears first, then check the temperature? Thank you.
hi, the temp sensor is on trans valve body, usually toward front of the trans. if you take a rough average of temp between front/middle/rear of trans pan, you will be in the ball park temp ( i have tested quite a few times comparing scan tool temp and digital thermometer - and i should make a vid of it! ) besides all that .... the choice is always yours cheers
@@YepThatsIt There's no way for the temp in the pan to be higher than at the sensor. The sensor is part of the techm. It's just a little thermistor. So if you estimate the temperature to be a bit below the actual temp, you should actually be pretty spot on. I would work with whatever is the hottest temp you see, in the pan its self. That being said, those that build these trans for racing and myself, will overfill the 6l family plenty. The viscosity of factory fluid is low enough and never thickens really that it won't cause any noticeable extra drag. If the trans is low on fluid, or you put the wrong filter in (like the neck is too short to reach the bottom of the pan), that's when you will cause problems.
hi, removing trans pan and doing filter service is adequate to improve the old fluid properties. we only do a full flush if coolant has entered the trans, and even then you will need to do at least 5 full flushes to get it all out. see my milkshake trans fluid vids. cheers
Hey bud just a question for you i have a late 2009 ve wagon with the 3 litre v6 with a 6speed auto and it has a dip stick , i have seen some of your other vids with the 6speed and they dont have a dip stick , is that because its a different transmission
@@brettwheaton6631 should be no problem, just make sure you check fluid level as per your owners manual because without dipstick yo need to measure level to a specific temp range because the fluid expands with heat.cheers
The magnet will move drop an a big shot of steel dust will pop off an smack the filter pick up all at once.. so no bad idea . If you want to help it put another magnet in the pan away from any moving parts.. that's it
hi, for more of our associated vid on this transmission see our playlist th-cam.com/play/PLQLkuOdKuFotzfpdV15zq07e32CUjYhbS.html cheers
Gday, best video I’ve seen so far, I’ve got the 2011 VE series 2 with 150kms and time for a service, the dealership did it last and near had to give a kidney and left nut to pay the bill, thanks for you help, cheers
no worries, if deserved cheers for some beers. link is in description
After refilling with 6 Liters of tansmission fluid, does one start it up and remove the plug or wait until correct temp to remove the plug?
Hey mate, Great videos. I've heard some filters are not as good, namely Ryco ones are bad. Can you recommend a good quality brand of filter for 6L50?
Hi Mate Geeting my VE 6L50 serviced next week, do you need to completely flush all the old fluid out of these transmissions or is dropping the pan enough?
Guess it’s time to have a go, I don’t think my 2010 has ever been done , Thanks for information
thanks & cheers
@@YepThatsIt , all done, your videos are very helpful, I did make a bit of a mess as working with car ramps and stands. There was a bit of muck over magnet and oil quite dark. Thanks again.
Any need to do a flush to get all the old fluid out of the torque converter ?
hi, we only do multiple full flush when there is coolant/water in trans or when someone put wrong trans fluid in. cheers
Hey mate, handy video, wondering what the torque specs are for the 10mm fasteners and 14mm drain bolt? (Ryco cork/rubber gasket)
Cheers
80 in/lbs for 10mm pan bolts
I assume the 6L45-E is the same?? any substantial differences in drain and fill process?? thanks
hi, fill and level check is identical. cheers
did it work for you? I dont think the 6l45 has that rubber fill plug but it has a metal botl on the side for filling.
I've done this service, filled with Penrite oil that meets GM specs, correct temp etc, drove car, auto slips after slowing down to turn into another street. Check oil.....low.....wait to get temp to correct range....ad oil, back on the road.....still slips. Did everything as per video including the new position of magnet, new aftermarket filter.....same as A C Delco that was replaced. VE 2011 SV6 130,000km. What next please.
hi, was there any issue previously? what was fluid condition? sometimes if fluid is very dark/old/burnt it is slightly thicker than new trans fluid, so if you have internal pressure leaks then new fluid can make it worse. also all depends on service history, mileage, amount of debris/swarf in trans pan and on magnet. cheers
@@YepThatsIt Thanks for the reply. Oil condition was pretty good. No smell or bad colour. No issues before. I changed the 3 timing chains etc, all other fluids, so did auto service. Did my time in the late 70's, HQ-HZ, XY-XE etc. Not much muck in the pan at all, cleaned up real well, magnet was a bit thick with build up, replaced the same way you did, as all the magnet type trannies I have done. Will be looking at car again this Friday. Even though I have replaced oil as per temp & level, I may have overlooked the capacity for the torque converter. I'm pretty spot on with my levels normally, but this is the first one I have changed without the good old dipstick ! Maybe I'm the dipstick & have stuffed up somewhere ! Also, checked trans temp at pan, side of box & oil coming back out of drain hole. Got 3 different readings. Pan was the coolest within 30 to 50C, side of box was showing 80C & oil flowing out was 65C with engine running. Also did not replace the seal up in the tube as the spare parts guy, who used to service autos like you, said if the filter came away with a bit of effort, there is normally no reason to change it. My filter was tight & firm & required a bit of effort to pull down. Looked up tube, seal looked great, could not feel any damage, new filter fitted nice & tight as it should & as per video. Surely that seal couldn't be giving this slipping problem ? I think I'm still low on oil somehow, even though it was showing to be full. Thanks for your interest.
Update, 29.11.2021, put car back up on 4 jack stands, everything level. Gear box temp showing 47C, pan showing 35C. Removed drain plug......no oil ! Used another 2 litres, with engine running, in Drive, wheels turning etc. Temp rose a bit, within 30-50C. Oil started overflowing, let drain a little, replaced bolt whilst some oil trickling out, test drove.....happy days, car is fixed. When I did it previously, oil was coming out, yet tranny slipped. I did run the engine, but did not put into Drive like I did this time. Torque Converter probably took some oil from previous fill & my temps were a little too hot. This time, all good. Job done !
I've been watching similar videos, and they recommend NOT measuring the temperature at the pan, but to use your scan tool trans temp reading. I don't have that on my scan tool, so how long do you let it idle? And do you go through all the gears first, then check the temperature? Thank you.
hi, the temp sensor is on trans valve body, usually toward front of the trans. if you take a rough average of temp between front/middle/rear of trans pan, you will be in the ball park temp ( i have tested quite a few times comparing scan tool temp and digital thermometer - and i should make a vid of it! ) besides all that .... the choice is always yours cheers
@@YepThatsIt There's no way for the temp in the pan to be higher than at the sensor. The sensor is part of the techm. It's just a little thermistor. So if you estimate the temperature to be a bit below the actual temp, you should actually be pretty spot on.
I would work with whatever is the hottest temp you see, in the pan its self.
That being said, those that build these trans for racing and myself, will overfill the 6l family plenty. The viscosity of factory fluid is low enough and never thickens really that it won't cause any noticeable extra drag. If the trans is low on fluid, or you put the wrong filter in (like the neck is too short to reach the bottom of the pan), that's when you will cause problems.
How about the torque converter does it have to be drained? To fully replace new ATF on the whole transmission??
We use same transmission on Trailblazer or Colorado 2.8 diesel. It has torque converter. Does it needs to be drained?
hi, removing trans pan and doing filter service is adequate to improve the old fluid properties. we only do a full flush if coolant has entered the trans, and even then you will need to do at least 5 full flushes to get it all out. see my milkshake trans fluid vids. cheers
@@YepThatsIt Your answer is very helpful! Will definitely replace ATF 100k kilometers on Trailblazer uses same transmission. Thanks!
Cheers mate, exactly what I needed to know for the miss car , your a legend mate 👍🇭🇲
good to hear, cheers
thanks MATE.
Great video mate where are you located
hi, we are in country vic. contact link is in description. thanks & cheers
Mate you're a legend!
thanks & cheers
Thanks mate, great video!
thanks & cheers
What torque do you tighten the pan bolts to?
hi, cork/rubber, duraprene or torlane gaskets? cheers
Hey bud just a question for you i have a late 2009 ve wagon with the 3 litre v6 with a 6speed auto and it has a dip stick , i have seen some of your other vids with the 6speed and they dont have a dip stick , is that because its a different transmission
hi, is it factory or retro-fit dipstick? cheers
@@YepThatsIt factory mate
@@brettwheaton6631 should be no problem, just make sure you check fluid level as per your owners manual because without dipstick yo need to measure level to a specific temp range because the fluid expands with heat.cheers
Great info, thanks very much
no worries, cheers
This is a great video thanks
hi, thanks & cheers
very good info, thanks buddy
thanks & cheers
You should show us how to remove the seal. Thats the only issue i’m having I cannot get the dang thing out
hi, moon shaped disc on slide hammer to pull some filter seals out. cheers
Good information 👍
thanks & cheers 👍
Thaaanks for the video mate👍👍👍
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Nice video . Thnx. 🍺
thanks and cheers
These don’t have solenoids do they? Controlled by shift model?
hi, they have solenoids in tehcm. see th-cam.com/video/gd_jWHueP-o/w-d-xo.html and th-cam.com/video/iBAHr6GbSmg/w-d-xo.html cheers
The magnet will move drop an a big shot of steel dust will pop off an smack the filter pick up all at once.. so no bad idea . If you want to help it put another magnet in the pan away from any moving parts.. that's it
hi, we are yet to have that issue..... always good practice to check/confirm magnet will not be in way of something before you reassemble. cheers