David Baron Stevens This is not jazz. This is harmony used in a beautiful way with beautiful lyrics. Jazz sometimes is played to impress people with rather ugly and unsignificant dissonances. I think Bill Evans is an exception in Jazz...an architect of beautiful harmony, a poet. Maybe among the best jazz could ever have. Jobim uses harmony in the same fine way..this is poetry.Very VERY few jazz musicians will understand this.
@@TheJazzMemoir Bossa nova is definitely jazz, my friend. I understand what you mean concerning harmony, and its true that the bossa nova greats manipulate it in ways that no one else does. But to say that Evans is the only exception in jazz is so narrow ... Bossa nova is, in essence, a mix between brazilian music (samba, pop.. think of Caymmi for example) and... jazz. Gilberto and Jobim are the BEST examples of this. Also Vinicius de Moraes if you consider that half of his songs are simply 2516 progressions. Even if harmony is used slightly differently, it still VERY often revolves around some kind of 251 movement, either directly or through some alteration (thats where the difference comes in, if I understand correctly what you mean) like a Imaj Im7 7m7, relying heavily on tri subs, alterations to stay in (or to stay out) of key, chromaticism, changing keys with diminished chords, etc. To deny this is to not know jazz. Nor bossa nova... I understand that the final product is not the same at all, of course, but they definitely have some roots in common. And it is insulting to neither of them :)
@@mo0dyy Bossa Nova is not a mixture of jazz and samba. Bossa Nova is a type of Samba. Bossa Nova has Samba rhythms and grove. Bossa Nova has initially the melodic structure and chord progressions that are typical of the samba. The fact that Bossa Nova got influenced by Jazz doesn't change what Bossa Nova is. Bossa Nova is initially a cooler form of Samba with, as he says in this interview, a more positive message than what was standard back then. Samba de Uma Nota So is called "Samba" because it is a Samba. When it became very much obvious that they where sitting on a new form of Samba they called it Bossa Nova. This is more in the style of how Bossa Nova would have first sounded: th-cam.com/video/7c8Yc3cyu9s/w-d-xo.html
Amazing how much Tom looked at this time with the way of being from Villa Lobos, even smoking, like Villa Lobos, a cigar...I would like to make a statement here to that the translations from Portuguese to English, of Brazilian Bossa Nova songs made by Norman Gimbel, left Tom Jobim exasperated, because he totally escaped the poetic meaning of the songs in Portuguese, as he was only interested in the lyrics falling well with the musical notes, not caring much about the poetry behind each song, taking away much of what was meant ... just to get an idea, Gimbel didn’t want the most famous song, Girl from Ipanema to have "Ipanema "because he said it sounded like the brand of a very popular toothpaste at the time, in the USA. For our luck, Tom did not give up on Ipanema, who at the time was not even known. Tom Jobim then decided to do even more in English and got rid of the English translations that Gimbel did, - which did not take much into Tom Jobim's statements - when he did "Águas de Março - Waters of March". In fact the lyrics for "Garota de Ipanema" in English, have nothing to do with what is sung in Portuguese ... The letter in Portuguese is this: Look what a beautiful thing Olha que coisa mais linda More full of grace Mais cheia de graça It's her, girl É ela menina, Coming and going Que vem e que passa On a sweet swing Num doce balanço On the way to the sea ... A caminho do mar... And it looked like this in English: Tall and tan and young and lovely The girl from Ipanema goes walking And when she passes, each one she passes Goes "a-a-a-h"
2 genialidades da nossa música e uma canção para o mundo. (Desafinado vendeu muito nos EUA e até hoje é muito tocada por vários artistas de várias vertentes .principalmente no Japão Itália e EUA).
There's a book called "Chega de Saudade" by Ruy Castro (I don't know if there is a english version) that explain the history of bossa nova, I recommend that you read it, IF it's possible.
It wasn't just Gilberto that created bossa nova, he only come with the softly sing and the beat (the beat he took like 90% from the song "Eu quero um samba" by João Donato).
Jiao Gilberto the creator of Bossa Nova! They think Jobim pioneered it. Its a creation of Jiao Gilberto that was popularized by Tom worldwide! It starts form guitar and brush on drums...
@@rogeriannavarro5640 there is no such thing as bossa nova. Bossa nova is Samba. Even joao Gilberto said so himself. He hated the name bossa nova and said it is Samba.
Every jazz musician who wishes to attempt to play this rich and often misunderstood music should watch this video...
David Baron Stevens This is not jazz. This is harmony used in a beautiful way with beautiful lyrics. Jazz sometimes is played to impress people with rather ugly and unsignificant dissonances. I think Bill Evans is an exception in Jazz...an architect of beautiful harmony, a poet. Maybe among the best jazz could ever have. Jobim uses harmony in the same fine way..this is poetry.Very VERY few jazz musicians will understand this.
@@TheJazzMemoir so stupid.
@@TheJazzMemoir Bossa nova is definitely jazz, my friend. I understand what you mean concerning harmony, and its true that the bossa nova greats manipulate it in ways that no one else does. But to say that Evans is the only exception in jazz is so narrow ... Bossa nova is, in essence, a mix between brazilian music (samba, pop.. think of Caymmi for example) and... jazz. Gilberto and Jobim are the BEST examples of this. Also Vinicius de Moraes if you consider that half of his songs are simply 2516 progressions. Even if harmony is used slightly differently, it still VERY often revolves around some kind of 251 movement, either directly or through some alteration (thats where the difference comes in, if I understand correctly what you mean) like a Imaj Im7 7m7, relying heavily on tri subs, alterations to stay in (or to stay out) of key, chromaticism, changing keys with diminished chords, etc. To deny this is to not know jazz. Nor bossa nova...
I understand that the final product is not the same at all, of course, but they definitely have some roots in common. And it is insulting to neither of them :)
@@mo0dyy Bossa Nova is not a mixture of jazz and samba. Bossa Nova is a type of Samba.
Bossa Nova has Samba rhythms and grove.
Bossa Nova has initially the melodic structure and chord progressions that are typical of the samba. The fact that Bossa Nova got influenced by Jazz doesn't change what Bossa Nova is.
Bossa Nova is initially a cooler form of Samba with, as he says in this interview, a more positive message than what was standard back then. Samba de Uma Nota So is called "Samba" because it is a Samba. When it became very much obvious that they where sitting on a new form of Samba they called it Bossa Nova.
This is more in the style of how Bossa Nova would have first sounded: th-cam.com/video/7c8Yc3cyu9s/w-d-xo.html
Tom Jobim, João Gilberto, dois grandes músicos brasileiros.
This amazing music is a coastal breeze that blows through me. Long live Jobim!
It's always wonderful see over and over Maestro Tom Jobim and João Gilberto. I (we) miss them a lot.
Thank you for posting.
Tom Jobim one of a kind human being and the best of Brazil 🇧🇷 ♥️♥️♥️
Aaww Tom como vc faz falta!! We miss you dearly Tom ♥️♥️♥️
um amor o Tom 💖 Maestro Jobim dearest, you live on in you beautiful music, forever in our hearts 💖
amazing!
Amazing how much Tom looked at this time with the way of being from Villa Lobos, even smoking, like Villa Lobos, a cigar...I would like to make a statement here to that the translations from Portuguese to English, of Brazilian Bossa Nova songs made by Norman Gimbel, left Tom Jobim exasperated, because he totally escaped the poetic meaning of the songs in Portuguese, as he was only interested in the lyrics falling well with the musical notes, not caring much about the poetry behind each song, taking away much of what was meant ... just to get an idea, Gimbel didn’t want the most famous song, Girl from Ipanema to have "Ipanema "because he said it sounded like the brand of a very popular toothpaste at the time, in the USA. For our luck, Tom did not give up on Ipanema, who at the time was not even known. Tom Jobim then decided to do even more in English and got rid of the English translations that Gimbel did, - which did not take much into Tom Jobim's statements - when he did "Águas de Março - Waters of March".
In fact the lyrics for "Garota de Ipanema" in English, have nothing to do with what is sung in Portuguese ...
The letter in Portuguese is this:
Look what a beautiful thing Olha que coisa mais linda
More full of grace Mais cheia de graça
It's her, girl É ela menina,
Coming and going Que vem e que passa
On a sweet swing Num doce balanço
On the way to the sea ... A caminho do mar...
And it looked like this in English:
Tall and tan and young and lovely
The girl from Ipanema goes walking
And when she passes, each one she passes
Goes "a-a-a-h"
Escreva em português, você é brasileiro.
2 genialidades da nossa música e uma canção para o mundo. (Desafinado vendeu muito nos EUA e até hoje é muito tocada por vários artistas de várias vertentes .principalmente no Japão Itália e EUA).
Jobim...Ariel Ramirez...os melhores compositores da america do sul...em piano
I was there...at Ipanema...living 20 years
Sunset - Bossa Nova - Composer Brazilian Fabio Valente
Enjoy New Generation Bossa Nova too, Thanks!
is this documentary available on DVD? If yes, I would like to get it. does anyone know?
"Garota de Ipanema" Patrimonio Cultural de Brasil y del resto del Mundo
De qual documentário esse trecho é tirado? Abraços!
Tom Jobim e a Bossa Nova
@@barrosoneto40 Vlw!
legenda bisonha!
❤️❤️❤️❤️
Do you have the full video???
Does anyone know the date of the publishing of the original interview/ documentary?
Couldn't help but observe the cut in the translation of "Gilberto creating the Bossa nova." Still trying to get the bottom of origins.
Joao didn't create bossa. It's a lie everyone keeps spouting
There's a book called "Chega de Saudade" by Ruy Castro (I don't know if there is a english version) that explain the history of bossa nova, I recommend that you read it, IF it's possible.
It wasn't just Gilberto that created bossa nova, he only come with the softly sing and the beat (the beat he took like 90% from the song "Eu quero um samba" by João Donato).
But João Gilberto was responsible for bring all of bossa nova's caracteristics together and fighting really hard for his space
It may seem in this comments that Gilberto it's not much important, my mistake, but it's a really complex history, witch this book explain much better
Whats the suicide bolero hes referencing?
dreamy touch from jojo
Pena que cortou a fala como João Gilberto refinou os ritmos das escolas de samba e criou a bossa nova baseando no tamborim, mas está em inglês.
♪♫ Blindfolded - Bossa Nova by composer Fabio Valente♪♫
Jiao Gilberto the creator of Bossa Nova! They think Jobim pioneered it. Its a creation of Jiao Gilberto that was popularized by Tom worldwide! It starts form guitar and brush on drums...
Joao didn't create it either
Lol. Cant you hear his music? My God are you a musician or a critic?
@@rogeriannavarro5640 I'm both, and Joao didn't create bossa
@@Stewartaj2010 Then if you said so? Who create bossa nova? Who pioneered that song?
@@rogeriannavarro5640 there is no such thing as bossa nova. Bossa nova is Samba. Even joao Gilberto said so himself. He hated the name bossa nova and said it is Samba.
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