Nah. Its just Neil Drunkman trying to get people to go buy his games again. (And it did work for him because people did buy the game again.... *but not me.* )
Couldn't naughty dog like, afford to animate a proper rig for the male characters instead of just changing the skin from Abby's model? It gives me a lot of uncanny valley looking at him running, lol
Your answer is no. Unfortunately, animation movesets are really hard to make. It requires them to design a new play style different from Abby and Ellie (and even Joel’s part 1 version) that works fluidly. Then, get a mocap actor(s) to run through a course and record fight animations and gun animations (and whatever else) that work with the Part 2 Joel model and all of it’s quirks and stuff. Not to mention the height difference will disable Joel from being able to use a few mechanics (can be seen on PS4 mod for Joel where him being taller can stop him from using melee, go through tight spaces and puts him in weird spaces in cutscenes.) All that for one character. And this mode was literally just a cash grab. Wouldn’t have been worth it in their eyes… Not even to give them their own backpacks.
Homie had me feeling like "oh thank god I'm not the only one who forgets how to shoot people" and then I get further in and I'm like "ah goddammit he's def better"
I really just wish I could use a fucking mouse with this game though. There was a time I was better with a controller than mouse but that was many years ago and somehow it feels like skill with a controller can be way more fleeting than with a mouse.
@@trs8696 Yah it was pretty scuffed. If i miss a single shot running around strategically like a navy seal, i’ll die. It must be the trip plan thing, Idk theres something up with some guys HP & zombie health. Must be an experience thing.
I love watching and making No Return videos!!!! I recently completed my first run on grounded as a blind player. It was stressful as hell, but it was a really fun challenge! Finishing the daily run on grounded is the last trophy for No Return I need, and it's super hard! The infected on grounded is always my downfall! Right now I'm doing custom runs ungrounded, and I think I need to work my way up to standard runs because that's basically what the daily run is. The other issue I have is I'm terrible at the Bloaters! Even on very light I struggled for quite a while, so I definitely get nervous with the daily runs because you never know what the boss is. I know I'm going to fail if it's the arcade or the garage. I do OK with the Rat King sometimes, and it's actually my favorite boss. The one I've been able to beat on grounded is the Seraphite elite, and even that had my heart racing! Watching these always gives me the motivation to try again! I'm always afraid to use the pipe bombs because sometimes I use them when it's too close and I end up blowing myself up. Same with the explosive arrows. I really wish Joel could dodge. I love playing as Joel, but I'm afraid to try a run on grounded with him because of the fact that he can't dodge.
@@mirelcostin7538 that's insane dude. Play something else, I guess your definitely getting your money's worth but I would never brag about paying such a shitty game for such an extended period of time
@@lawrenceragnarok1186 in Germany we say taste is different. In my opinion both parts of this game are masterpieces. So when you don't like it fine, there are propably games you like, what I think is crap. 🤷♂️
They should of made this multiplayer/ co-op with other players. Imagine a map builder and you can create your own custome levels and place enemies anywhere you want and then let others play your creation as well
Yeah that’s pretty lazy honestly. Especially charging money for the update. When they had Joel’s combat from TLOU part 1, like port that over or something.
@@BrandonGavin_EDCthe character rig for last of us 1 will not match last of us 2 character rigs. The animations and mechanics of last of us 1 are different to last of us 2 because of the new mechanics in part 2. You would basically need to create a whole new character at that point.
I mean, insomniac and Sony Santa Monica don't use matching animations cus they never need more than the two playable characters in their games in a remastered game made by a very small amount of people (20 according to the credits) who don't have access to actors and motion capture rigs. Honestly they did the best with what they could and without draining resources from what ND should be focusing on, their next single player game.
Grounded pretty much forces you to play defensively most of the time. With the right kit you sometimes can get away with it but you're punished most of the time for even trying.
Thought you were toast twice. That blast out of the bathroom stall probably should've killed you and that Stalker grab at the Brewery when you didn't have a shiv. Still, nice work staying alive. Much different style than me, but still skilled.
I would have liked if every character had their own animations instead of abbys or ellies but that would have taken a lot of effort and time for a remastered game
They did nerf Joel pretty hard this game.Part 1 remake feels a lot sturdier even tho its still slow. Probably because in this game its a reskin of Abby
man they nerfed Joel so bad in this mode even the experience of the player and gameplay is affected? did him way too dirty in this mode considering how much of a badass he is in story mode
Well they did him dirty in the second game so of course they're gonna do him dirty when you play as him too I'm personally not surprised as long as you have Neil druckman as the director you can alwyas expect things like this
Killing Joel at the start of the second game is one of the most baffling, blisteringly incompetent choices ever made in the history of storytelling. It's the worst thing they could ever have possibly done. I will never understand it.
Exactly man I’ve lost count how many times I’ve beat TLOU 1 on ps3 ps4 and ps5 Joel is one of the top 3 best video game protagonist of all time they fucked up killing him they could have at least made Tommy the lead protagonist! but they fucked his character up too in the story. 🖕🏻Abby and all her friends I had no sense of remorse for Abby whats so ever she sucks ass so does lev and yara.
I play both modes actually fidelity and performance.I have a high Hz monitor so i can play 30fps and not really burn my eyes.Most of the time feels like im playing 40-50 fps.But sometimes i switch and just play the 60fps mode.Just to switch things up a bit
@@triscuitsarebadnot in the most stupidest yet uncharacteristically way imaginable why are you tlou2 fans too dumb to understand the difference between good and bad writing
Watching Joel gameplay in The Last of Us Part 2 shows that you can never truly kill a character as they will be revived in another form
Nah. Its just Neil Drunkman trying to get people to go buy his games again.
(And it did work for him because people did buy the game again.... *but not me.* )
@@nightowl7261nah he js did it for fun
Sounds like Copium™ to me
They will be missed, but never forgotten
@@nightowl7261who cares
Couldn't naughty dog like, afford to animate a proper rig for the male characters instead of just changing the skin from Abby's model? It gives me a lot of uncanny valley looking at him running, lol
Your answer is no. Unfortunately, animation movesets are really hard to make. It requires them to design a new play style different from Abby and Ellie (and even Joel’s part 1 version) that works fluidly. Then, get a mocap actor(s) to run through a course and record fight animations and gun animations (and whatever else) that work with the Part 2 Joel model and all of it’s quirks and stuff. Not to mention the height difference will disable Joel from being able to use a few mechanics (can be seen on PS4 mod for Joel where him being taller can stop him from using melee, go through tight spaces and puts him in weird spaces in cutscenes.)
All that for one character. And this mode was literally just a cash grab. Wouldn’t have been worth it in their eyes… Not even to give them their own backpacks.
If only they could've ported in the mocap from Part 1.
@@Wedge_The_Almighty So they don't do it because of lazyness basically and cause they don't care.
Really well done. You had a few close calls, mainly at the beginning, but you breezed through the later half.
Homie had me feeling like "oh thank god I'm not the only one who forgets how to shoot people" and then I get further in and I'm like "ah goddammit he's def better"
I really just wish I could use a fucking mouse with this game though. There was a time I was better with a controller than mouse but that was many years ago and somehow it feels like skill with a controller can be way more fleeting than with a mouse.
He runs pretty fast for a guy with one knee.
Bruh lmao
And he's pretty alive for a dead person
@@RealGhostface-y9b cant die twice
The run was a little bit scuffed but i thought it was fun to watch so i uploaded it.Enjoy!
i think i mentioned in another one of your videos but you really need to try gyro aiming. you can boost your accuracy enormously.
@@trs8696 i will give it a try!
@@trs8696 Yah it was pretty scuffed. If i miss a single shot running around strategically like a navy seal, i’ll die. It must be the trip plan thing, Idk theres something up with some guys HP & zombie health. Must be an experience thing.
I love that it wasn't perfect.
I love watching and making No Return videos!!!! I recently completed my first run on grounded as a blind player. It was stressful as hell, but it was a really fun challenge! Finishing the daily run on grounded is the last trophy for No Return I need, and it's super hard! The infected on grounded is always my downfall! Right now I'm doing custom runs ungrounded, and I think I need to work my way up to standard runs because that's basically what the daily run is. The other issue I have is I'm terrible at the Bloaters! Even on very light I struggled for quite a while, so I definitely get nervous with the daily runs because you never know what the boss is. I know I'm going to fail if it's the arcade or the garage. I do OK with the Rat King sometimes, and it's actually my favorite boss. The one I've been able to beat on grounded is the Seraphite elite, and even that had my heart racing! Watching these always gives me the motivation to try again! I'm always afraid to use the pipe bombs because sometimes I use them when it's too close and I end up blowing myself up. Same with the explosive arrows. I really wish Joel could dodge. I love playing as Joel, but I'm afraid to try a run on grounded with him because of the fact that he can't dodge.
The combat in this game is still one of the best ever maid. I got nearly 200 hours in the game.
Doing what?
Encounters,NG+ repeating chapters,No Return@@lawrenceragnarok1186
@@mirelcostin7538 that's insane dude. Play something else, I guess your definitely getting your money's worth but I would never brag about paying such a shitty game for such an extended period of time
@@mirelcostin7538 and double platinum. 😊
@@lawrenceragnarok1186 in Germany we say taste is different. In my opinion both parts of this game are masterpieces. So when you don't like it fine, there are propably games you like, what I think is crap. 🤷♂️
I don't know if it's poetic or ironic that Joel uses Abby's animations.
You've honestly inspired me to make my own No Return videos! Of course I could never do it on grounded I just stick with hard lol
They just need to buff Joel health and mele damage resistance 😅
Honestly they do.
“Time traveler moves one pebble”
I miss joel 😢
i bet joel is dissapointed after ellie Spared Abby😭
Shiiii🔥 your so good men, keep it up ✌🏻
Bro is just too Goated at No Return ! 😭👌👍
They should of made this multiplayer/ co-op with other players. Imagine a map builder and you can create your own custome levels and place enemies anywhere you want and then let others play your creation as well
The GOAT!!!
Joel with abbys moves just what i needed naughty dog are not top of sony no more maybe third place behind insomniac, santa monica
Yeah that’s pretty lazy honestly. Especially charging money for the update. When they had Joel’s combat from TLOU part 1, like port that over or something.
@@BrandonGavin_EDCthe character rig for last of us 1 will not match last of us 2 character rigs. The animations and mechanics of last of us 1 are different to last of us 2 because of the new mechanics in part 2. You would basically need to create a whole new character at that point.
I mean, insomniac and Sony Santa Monica don't use matching animations cus they never need more than the two playable characters in their games in a remastered game made by a very small amount of people (20 according to the credits) who don't have access to actors and motion capture rigs. Honestly they did the best with what they could and without draining resources from what ND should be focusing on, their next single player game.
@@BrandonGavin_EDCI don't think you quite understand how difficult that is...
@@everettenjeze6276 makes sense then I just figured with Part 1 they may be able to use it somehow.
Its so cool because they added joels playstyle as unstoppable, truly amazed.
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what
Rat king fight starts around 28:11 :)
Dang watching this makes me miss Joel.
Got REALLY lucky with that shot through the door paneling in 19:15ish
19:10
Well I am glad to finally see someone beat the Rat King (grounded).......I haven't yet
Close encounters😅
Yeah
... of the Joel&Clicker kind X)
@@gamenoobxdxd they need yhe dodges for those
@@emmaelstad341they took out dodges and gave him and tommy max upgraded weapons instead
Awesome game and played well too.
1:32 Holy Shit Joel!
Almost passed out during 3rd encounter
Joel handled the rat king much better than abby🔥
I wish truly strong Naughty God releases a version of No Return for pc, at least just that 😢
Edit: 02:25 MY GOD THAT SHOT. Super clean gameplay
Nice video! Could you do an aggressive one with Joel? Like, where he goes full rambo mode
Grounded pretty much forces you to play defensively most of the time. With the right kit you sometimes can get away with it but you're punished most of the time for even trying.
Thought you were toast twice. That blast out of the bathroom stall probably should've killed you and that Stalker grab at the Brewery when you didn't have a shiv. Still, nice work staying alive. Much different style than me, but still skilled.
I would have liked if every character had their own animations instead of abbys or ellies but that would have taken a lot of effort and time for a remastered game
Finally someone who’s not an idiot. I hate all these people calling them lazy
nice gameplay bluud
main character vibes
Is he not? But instead we got trans bodybuilder ugliest character in fiction as main character in this dog shit game
You should try and beat a bloater as Joel with the hands god gave you
19:42 i woulda shit myself. lucky that you were full hp or that would have been it.
2:25 toooo close
feels weird watching do that tireness movement all slugish
They did nerf Joel pretty hard this game.Part 1 remake feels a lot sturdier even tho its still slow.
Probably because in this game its a reskin of Abby
@@gamenoobxdxd he's older
@@ali2633 still,his movement is a reskin of Abby and thats why it feels weird imo
They should have added his moveset from part 1
i'm still tryna complete a daily run on Grounded but you make it look easy haha
8:19 oh no, that must've hurt. That was 10 bullets. I hate this mod xD
Seeing Joel with Ellie's run animation is so weird 😂
His skills aged like wine
why it is seems so easy when watching! I am getting exciting when i am playing and dying in panic.
Are the settings different for Capture in Grounded Mode? Usually when I kill all the enemies the safe locks…
man they nerfed Joel so bad in this mode even the experience of the player and gameplay is affected?
did him way too dirty in this mode considering how much of a badass he is in story mode
Well they did him dirty in the second game so of course they're gonna do him dirty when you play as him too I'm personally not surprised as long as you have Neil druckman as the director you can alwyas expect things like this
now do joel against tiger woods
I don’t like how they just reskinned Abby and Ellie. Joel does not run like that 😂
Lev is great too. Bow is S tier
Killing Joel at the start of the second game is one of the most baffling, blisteringly incompetent choices ever made in the history of storytelling. It's the worst thing they could ever have possibly done. I will never understand it.
Exactly man I’ve lost count how many times I’ve beat TLOU 1 on ps3 ps4 and ps5 Joel is one of the top 3 best video game protagonist of all time they fucked up killing him they could have at least made Tommy the lead protagonist! but they fucked his character up too in the story. 🖕🏻Abby and all her friends I had no sense of remorse for Abby whats so ever she sucks ass so does lev and yara.
Can you explain? Or are those just your vry loud emotions
🤡
it was literally the only way they could've done a second game. he needed to die and even Troy Baker thought so
@@triscuitsarebad I completely disagree. They skipped over an entire game's worth of story to get to the story we got.
Hate that he can't dodge
hes balanced out with a goated custom revolver
Why can't the damage of the hunting pistol be upgraded, is it a grounded thing?
Yeap
How about trying to pick up some of that ammo that drops instead of just leaving it. I don't know just a thought 🤷
Sometimes game is too fast paced
@@ColeJank dont like it 👍
Your sensivity setting please
I beat the rat king as joel, but i had tommy to help me
Joel Wick
Am I seeing correctly? Does Joel move like Abby?
You are actually correct 👍😂😂
Strange/lazy decision by the devs. Still, it's cool that you can actually play him again. @@gamenoobxdxd
The good thing in this game aside from the gameplay is this mode, I'm having lots of fun
What mode do you play? 2k 60fps or 4k fps?
I play both modes actually fidelity and performance.I have a high Hz monitor so i can play 30fps and not really burn my eyes.Most of the time feels like im playing 40-50 fps.But sometimes i switch and just play the 60fps mode.Just to switch things up a bit
Joel be Zeke bro.
Is Joel not able to dodge?
No unfortunately.Him and Tommy can't dodge but they have stronger guns.
Not worth the trade off imo 😕
@@gamenoobxdxdyeah Tommy is cool with his sniper and I really like Joel but you can get his revolver on any charecter it jsut cost more parts
@@FettDog79his revolver does more damage and comes with more ammo
Joel would 1 shot rat king. He’s just too good.
why are you wasting your money on medkits 💀 you literally had full rags and alcohol and get plenty in encounters just craft them
I just like to have back up plans if you try Grounded you will understand.Things can go south in a second and you might need to heal a lot
such a damn good game.
The story the characters the pacing the endings are dog shit
I'm a better Noob than you. You didn't even try to not try.
Rookie player
Neil Druckmann bastard, he has no forgiveness for what he did to Joel and Tommy in the HORRIBLE part 2
.....?
??? Joel kinda needed to die for the story to continue even Troy baker thought so
@@triscuitsarebadnot in the most stupidest yet uncharacteristically way imaginable why are you tlou2 fans too dumb to understand the difference between good and bad writing
@@ministerofasia7392retard tlou2 fan