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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- You either love them or hate them - or in my case, maybe a little of both! Here's my final review on the Milestar Patagonia MT tires I've been running on the Jeep for the last 25,000 miles. I also share some tips and thoughts on how you can maximize tread life.
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I'm running the 33 milestar Patagonia Mt tires in Alaska and I'm totally blown away by how well they work year round. Taken them on the beach, mud and into the mountains and of course driven on ice or snow without issues. I run at 38 psi for pavement with next to no visible wear over a year. The key to running these is to not use them for high mileage commuting and drive sensible upon take offs from a stop. 65mph is by far the fastest I've driven on some trips to Homer but 55mph has always been an appropriate speed for all Mt tires I've used over the years. If you have white letters the manufacturer recommends to install the white letters in because the black walls are thicker. Hope this helps someone and I have zero complaints about these budget tires.
Great info - hadn’t heard that about the black letter sidewall thickness. Glad you’re enjoying them!
I've got the 35/12.50r20's on a '16 Z71. I've been running 40 to 42 psi for about 15k miles now and I've got more than half the tread left. I would say 60% left. It does ride rougher than if I aired down to 35psi. Off-road I drop to 20 to 25 psi and it does excellent. I will definitely be buying these again.
Oh and I have the black label edition. Tread seems to be wearing slightly more in the center than the outside but I believe that's to be expected from a domed style mud tire. I usually run 70 to 75mph on the freeway. But these have hit 115 ish for a somewhat extended amount of time. Maybe 2 or 3 miles continuous at 115. Define been well over 80 for half hour at a time. They seem to do great. I had the americus rugged m/t 33x12.5 before these. They did great off-road but shit on road. Couldn't keep them balanced to save my life. Wheel shake from 60 mph to 85mph. It sucked.
I'm running the Milestar Patagonias (original, not the improved MT-02) and have 14K on them. Milestar officially says to run them at the air pressure listed in your Jeep's door jam. On my '13 JKU that's 35 PSI. Running at 38 PSI on my Jeep would be too much pressure according to both Jeep & Milestar. I have been running them at 35-36 PSI on the road. Tread noise is still quiet, and looks like it will last over 40K. In 14K I have used less than 1/3 of the tread. When I bought them I was hoping for 30-35k. The rubber is soft with very good grip. I have done about 20 trails and notice I always seem to have better grip than other Jeeps who spin their tires while I crawl it (without lockers).
The only area I haven't been impressed with is occasionally when engine oil is on a wet road. It will not stop as well as all-terrain tires in that condition, but I am aware of it and drive accordingly.
I have had to do a couple emergency stops on the road on dry roads (thanks to stupid drivers) and with my upgraded brakes I have been extremely impressed with how well it stopped - about 20+ feet shorter than I expected. My next set will probably be the new Patagonia MT-02.
There are 2 keys to making these tires last. 1) Run them at 35 PSI. 2) Because the rubber is so soft, they need to be rotated every 3500 miles.
Additionally, it helps to have a properly aligned suspension. All mud terrain tires needed to be rotated more often than all-terrain tires. While everyone's experience can be different, with mud terrains, it often comes down to how you take care of - or don't take care of - your tires and your suspension/alignment. If more frequent tire rotations aren't something you can handle (along with maintaining correct tire pressure) this may not be your tire. Some mud terrains that are harder rubber can be rotated every 5000 miles.
Hey Jon! Appreciate the detailed comment. Some great and helpful info here! 👏🏼
I just installed the Patagonia MT 35’s and was wondering about proper air pressure. This certainly helps
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I have 33” Patagonias on my TJ. Run them about 32 psi on the road and about 15 psi off road (no bead locks) They have probably 40k miles on them (bought them in January 2019) Aside from some goofy wear patterns because I’m lazy when I comes to rotating them, and probably the low psi on road, I have zero complaints. They are phenomenal off road.
Amazing!
If a tire is not domed and if it’s new do a chalk test to get proper PSI for your rigs weight and Garrix characteristics. My stock Jeep came with Firestone destination MT and from dealer it was 40 PSI. I started having cupping and feathering boys at local 4x4 shop set my tires to 36 PSI it’s not as rough on road and after two rotations ( or 1200 miles) there back to flat and not so noisy! Thank for video on the tires keep it up!
Great reminder on chalk test! Need to do that. Thanks!
I am running the 37's in a D load range. Been running 38 psi since day one. I do a lot of daily driving and sitting close to 15k miles. I do keep them inflated as recommended. I also rotate them ever five thousand miles or so with a fifth wheel rotation. So far they have been great. Now I have not experienced a rough ride. I do have really nice shocks and springs though. Running metal cloak springs and fox performance by BDS suspension for shocks.
Awesome! That’s a good point on more supple suspension offsetting the harshness of the higher psi.
Just turned 25k on my 35" pats ... I run them right around 32-34 psi (10-15 offroad). I think they have been great tires so far on my JT... they are now starting to gradually get louder, but that is normal for any tire as it wears. I did notice the snow performance dropped off at approx. the 20 k mark. Wanting to get one more winter out of them, so I siped them and that made a huge difference. They've been fantastic off road.
Thanks for the feedback!
I had a set of brand new Patagonia AT R's on my Silverado Z71 that my dealership threw on. Almost spun out on the highway in snow with them. Yea I was in 2WD and not 4WD. Yet with a set of Cooper Discoverer AT3 4S I could go on snowy roads in 2WD that I couldn't with the Craptagonia's. Both times I had weight in the bed of the truck. Plus the Craptagonia's where loud on the highway. Well I had replace the AT3's (due to wear) and since the AT3's are discontinued unfortunately. Two co-workers suggested the Nitto Terra Grappler G2. We will see how they due when winter hits.
Ran Milestar MT 31's on my Dakota for 20k miles midwest CO/WY/MT @35/20psi hwy/trl - Great traction but wore quickly. Down to 2cm middle tread. Replaced w/Milestar XTs w/40k warranty. They are whisper quiet on hwy and love leaving the hardball. Looking forward to snow. Good review!
Great info! Thanks for sharing 🙌🏼
I'm running 35 inch General Grabber X3's for now at about 33-35 psi and they're great. I will be moving up to 37's in the same tire next time.
Good to know - have a buddy who likes the Grabbers as well. Thanks for sharing!
Best tire I've ever owned
Got these when they first came out a set of 31/10.50r15
For 105$ each
And I loved them working on my fourth set right now ,
I ended up putting them on my JT! They are hard to beat offroad / lightweight / price point.
I'm currently running the ProComp MT on my 2015 Rubicon. I've been running them at 36psi on the highway because they also ride much smoother with less direct pressure on the side lugs. There's a lot less lug vibration and "MT howl" when aired up.
I've run the Patagonia MT on two different vehicles. My only complaints are:
1. I think they could be slightly improved for mud
2. because they are a softer tread compound, they don't last as long as similar MTs.
Other than that, for me they have been a great tire (regardless of price) for offroading and I think they're very comfortable and quiet on-road when properly inflated.
Great info - I wheeled with someone running pro comp MT 40s the other day and he really liked them as well. That may be a tire I check out in the future.
2015 f150 fx4 super crew with 33x12.50r18LT ROADONE Aethon M/T 42 psi seems okay and I love the tires off-road. Great price
Good info! Haven’t heard of them. Thanks for sharing 👊🏼
I ran these in a 37/13/20 on my 2015 GMC sierra 1500 loved them! Mostly highway and back roads. Great road manners not as noise as some of the mud tires! I ran about 38-40psi as a 12 ply! Wet and snow they performed great but mud there were ok 👌 sold the truck and I had about 30,000mils on them and saw the truck there day the same tires r still on it! I like them so much I bought them for my daughters Zj and a 31 1050 she has about 32,000miles on them mostly highway still have about half tread! Running about 35psi and still ride ok not the softest ride
That’s great! 12 ply probably helped them wear better 🤙🏼 thanks for the comment!
I have a 2016 GMC Sierra and I’m about to buy the Patagonia M/T for it. Do you have your 2015 lifted, and if so, by how much?
@@TitanTrev the truck had a 6” rough country lift when I bought it with 35s did not rub and it had 20 x 9 wheels with a -24 offset I believe! I put pinch weld plates in and trim the front bumper just a little bit and I didn’t rob a 37‘s
The price point on these tires can't be beat. You get alot for your money 💰 the last snow storm we had I went out and had a blast. They look great on my expedition.
Agreed! That’s cool, haven’t seen them on an expedition before! Bet they look great.
Just a little rub. Who cares? Great tire so far.
These tires are dogshit and you both know it.
Great review.. I was searching to see what others were experiencing.I had a 37 inch blow out on me. I have 2 keeps and both have them and they seem to be a little rough on the highway. I think for strictly of-road, they are great. Thanks!
Wow, hopefully nothing serious from the blowout. Any idea of the cause??
Thanks Caleb. This is the exact video I needed to see. I run 33s in these. I had a set prior to this set and I swear they changed the compound not as happy. I'm not aware of "black label ". ???
Though this set is relatively new, I'm thinking about changing them.
I do run near 40. Did a cross country overland trip last year. Just a lot of highway when you live in New England.
Glad it was helpful! The black label Patagonias are a stickier compound for better grip off road. I haven’t run them but I’m pretty sure they are not intended for pavement use. Yes, that’s a long drive out west from NE! Good memories made though I’m sure.
I'm running 38 and the shop recommended 25psi and it is happening exactly as you had. I would vibrate the whole jeep when I come to a stop. Just recently put 37psi, but didn't help much.
Ugh, yeah these tires love higher PSI for sure. I’m running them in a 40” on my new JT build. Hopefully higher PSI will make this set last longer than my last!
I run the Dynapro MT2 by Hankook( 285/70/17) on my 2019 JL Sport S. So far they are awesome problem is with the Milestar/ Patagonia is my Jeep is my daily commuter as well and I hear they are not a mileage tire.....
Nice, yeah it seems like PSI is key to mileage with the Milestars…I’d guess you could get closer to 40k with 36-38psi.
I'm running some cheaper Chinese knock offs, and I always do the chaulk test on my tires and find the best and flattest possible wear psi which for me I run just about 22-28 osi
Thanks for the comment!
I'm running 33x10.50R16's on my WJ, and my experience mirrors yours. Coming up on about 20k and the lugs are cupped, the center area's wavy, theyre noisy, and will rattle your teeth out coming to a stop. Thanks for the info- I will try bringing them to 38psi and see if it makes a difference.
Sorry to hear it - hope it helps 🤙🏼
They gave these tires out to a ton of youtubers to "review" and they used to be cheap. Can get much better tires for basically the same price now
Are these the originals or the MT 2’s? The 2’s were supposed to solve a lot of these issues
Apologies for the delayed response - originals. Hoping the 2s are better!
Thanks for that. I’m shopping for 37s now. Finally got all the parts needed to support 37s (it’s a lot lol). Side note, do you sell merch? You often wear your brand in the vids.
That’s great! No merch yet…hopefully soon! TH-cam requires more subscribers to sell merch.
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I'm running between 37 and 40 psi on 35s Patagonia mts
Same here
Hey man I know this video is kinda old lol but im curious did you notice alot more road noise on the pats as you went up to the 20k mark? I’ve got 295 70 17s on my gladiator and about to hit 20k and run mines at 32psi as well just for the softer ride but I’ve noticed they have gotten a lot louder on the road. Even my wife notices how loud they are lol. And also I feel like they don’t have the best traction in the rain as I live in florida and we always have some rain coming down. Considering selling them and getting into some ridge grapplers.
Hey man! Yes I definitely did. Not remembering exactly when I started noticing it, maybe around 12k miles or so? Didn’t get “bad” until about 15-20k miles. Proper pressure is definitely key for these tires.
I have the Pats in their 38” tire on my 2020 JLUD. I’m running them at 30-31psi. I had them as low as 25psi. I’m noticing the cupping and vibration noises only at deceleration when close to stop. I’m gonna try to air them up to 34 to see if that helps. Thanks for the video!
Glad it was helpful! Hopefully 34 works better for you. I ran mine @ 37psi near the end but they were too uneven to make a difference.
I've been loving my 37×12.50R17 Nitto Trail Grapplers. They're a bit heavy, especially with beadlocks (136 Lbs). Ive found that they run and wear the best around 30-32 PSI. Having a manual in my '15 Rubicon Hardrock 2-door, I regeard down to 5.13 and they turn and stop just fine. I've put about 25k miles on them and still have about 13/32 of tread left. (New tread is 21/32.... I think) I rotate all 5 of them super often at only every 2,500 miles. At about 20k mile they did make a bit more noise, but they're still not bad at all and are wearing perfectly. I'm thinking about tying the yokohama's. How do you like them so far?
I hear nothing but good things about the Trail Grapplers! Wish they weren’t so heavy… So far the Yokohamas are good. They had a slight hum on road from the get go so we’ll see how they wear in over time. They’re performing well out here in the Anza-Borrego sand this weekend and have been good on the rocks as well.
How are the Yokohamas holding up?
They are doing well, around 10k miles so far and wear is pretty even. They’ve had a slight hum since new and it has increased a little but not overpowering. They aren’t quite as sticky on the rocks as the Patagonias but I think the useable tread life will be greater.
So what tire pressure did you run offroad on the Patagonia on rocks? I normally run 18psi..
My deflators are set to 15psi but I’ll go down to 14 or so if the trail is particularly rough.
I have had those same tires (including size) for around 12,000 miles. I can already see the odd wear patterns you talked about. Some roads these ride like a dream, while others they seem to ride odd. Off-road, they have been amazing. I really like the looks but they are a turn-off for many people. The price to weight to performance ratio has been solid but I will look for something else when it's time to change. I need more consistency and a better ride on-road.
Yep, I can relate! Was your wear psi related as well?
@@4XTRAIL I'm guessing probably so. I ran around 30 most of the time then saw where these need higher PSI and the "chalk" test wasn't correct on these tires so run about 35-36 now. Hard to say for sure as these do seem to wear quicker than normal but that's probably part of what makes them so good offroad. Not sure what I'll go with next but I like what you've changed to. I don't offroad as much as I thought I would but I still want either a MT or a more aggressive trail/AT tire.
I wonder how to chalk test on these ? LoL for real
Good question! I guess it would help you know you aren’t running them too flat 🤷🏼♂️
@@4XTRAIL true true. I just picked up a set today and wow, they’re so smooth compared to by 13 year old BFG’s. I’ll try and chalk test them for sure. Had no idea that center strip was so beefy, now I get the chalk test. Thank you so much!
This is exactly what i was looking for. I ran 24psi in a jeep xj on 35x12.5r15 on a 15x8 wheel and to get full tread contact i had to run 24psi maximum otherwise running high pressure it would wonder all over the road and ride like shit. I just noticed today the side lugs were chunking off and whether that’s from low tire pressure and turning on roads or a welded rear or just poor quality.
Subbed for sure.
Though my channel is scale rc haha. Thinking of throwing the milestars on my scale Rubicon
That’s awesome! Thanks for the comment 🤙🏼
I went from yokohamas to milestar patagonias and have the same experience. They wear a little too quick and get uneven wear that makes them noisy. They do great in the rocks but dont last long on the road
I know this video is a year old now but I have the milestar pats on a 35x12.50r15 and I have maybe 10-15k Miles on them and are chopping weird and loud but the contacted milestar they informed me to run them at 36psi as I was running them @ 25psi on the road that’s what I ran my federals MTs at and the lasted 40-45k miles . So put the pats to 36 but still noticed the tread getting less so I took them off and deemed them for off-road only set. As the where 1500$ for 5 new. But on that note I love them off-road they are amazing . But on road not impressed on how they hold up
Dang, sorry to hear it! I agree though, these are great offroad.
Do a chalk test, test multiple PSI and that will tell you what you need. Everyone has a different set-up that brings differences in weights and alignments. That’s why there’s always a horror story on tire wear for Jeeps, even on Nittos which I’ve found to be more forgiving.
Per Mikestar via YTs LiteBright - Chalk testing this crowned tire is different than a regular tire so be mindful of where/when chalking
I have 35 x12.50 on a 16 x 10 inch rim.truck is a 2008 2500 hd. 4.56 gears with front and rear lockers. Tires are absolute monsters off road and sticky-icky on the rocks as well.. I don't run bead locks and have had them down to 20 p.s.i. off road. Never had an issue. But with the softer stickier tire your gonna get less mileage from alot of highway driving. Especially if you don't rotate every 5k... Was running them at 35 to 36 on road...I love them ive noticed alot of off road recovery vehicles run 38 in milestar pats.... I'd buy again....
Thanks for the comment! Decided to try another set on my JT build in a 40x13.5r17 so hoping to hit the correct PSI and get more mileage out of this set! 🤞🏼
Hey Caleb, met your father at Pima Canyon TH at SMP a few months back. He was mtb there and had your jeep. I have a 12 jku Rubicon. Would love to catch up and 4x4 with you. I live in the east valley in Gilbert. Take care brother...
Hey Jayson! Yes he mentioned meeting you. Would be great man, feel free to message me through email @ 4xtrailvideo@gmail.com
I am running the 35” Patagonia MT-02’s on my TJ on 15 inch wheels. I have found that 28 PSI still keeps the edges off the road but feels comfortable and handles the wet well.
Great info. I think they have done some nice improvements to the 02s.
Found these from Matt's off road recovery, he said he runs 9psi... ?
He probably runs 9psi offroad 🤙🏼
38x13.50r17 patagonias on my jkur. 35 psi. 47k miles on them. At the end of their life. Still one of the quietest mt tires I've ever run. Will be replacing these with the 38x13.50r17 mt/02 patagonias this weekend.
Great to hear! Decided to run them in 40x13.5r17 on my JT. Will try to hit the PSI mark with the set and hopefully get your 47k miles out of them!
@@4XTRAIL did you get the mt-02 version? Possibly longer wear from them as they are a new rubber compound. Replacing mine with the 02s and will be putting a set of them on my wife's jtr as well.
Running the Pats 38s. I’m at 38-39 psi. It’s not a daily driver so don’t really mind the rougher ride. Really solid Offroad. They are wearing great so far. Only a few thousand miles on them though.
High psi is the ticket to treadlife for sure! Thanks for the comment.
well that explains why mine burnt up so fast lol
#relatable 🤦🏼♂️
I'll be sure to check them out xd
Would you check them out already? Haha I noticed I repeated myself but didn’t feel like taking it out 😂. Thanks for watching
Thank you for the video. You bring up some good points. I also have the same Yokohama’s and really like them. I did the chalk test and 25 psi seemed to be a good pressure to go with. To date I haven’t seen any wear issues but I don’t have a lot of miles on the tires yet. Can you advise what pressure you are running?
I’m still figuring out the best PSI too. Currently running 30 and they seem to like that pressure okay. Also don’t have many miles on mine yet (around 5k) and need to do another chalk test to see if I can go any lower. Thanks for the info!
I run the 37x12.5x17 Cooper STT Pros and love them. I run them at 28 PSI around town and anywhere from 12-20 PSI off road depending on the trail. I will either do these again or try the Nitto Trail Grapplers when it is time to change them out.
I second the question about merch. You have a cool logo. Sell shirts, hoodies, hats and stickers?
Heard really good things about the Coopers. That’s good info on PSI too, I may be running my Yokohamas too high on road @ 34… and no merch yet! Hopefully soon. TH-cam requires more subscribers to sell from what I understand.
Hey Ryan! Just letting you know I got a little merch shop up and running! Feel free to check it out and enjoy 15% off as a new customer. Appreciate the support! 4xtrail-adventure-wear.myspreadshop.com