Love how one of the channels I watch most reviews this product, my uncle is the one who made this product. Super proud moment to see how far it has come and see it on your channel! Really awesome
MrShortGame, thanks for the review against Trackman. I purchased TittleX to get me through last winter's lockdown and had a blast with it. It favourably benchmarked clubhead speed and carry against PRGR, but I was never sure about face angle and path. If I understand your video, its fair to say that TittleX gives a fair representation of ball direction and flight path.
I love your videos. They get straight to the point. Lots of youtubers demoing golf gear but they beat around the bush for too long. Happy to find a channel that doesn't waste my time!
Right on, I couldn't find this last October, I went with the Phigolf Swing trainer, we now have a FACEBOOK group ( 3 groups actually) where we host tournaments, the big thing about tittlx and Phigolf is it keeps us swinging all winter, especially for my man cave where I can't swung a real club.. I increased my swing speed overall during a winter season where here on Nova Scotia, golf becomes non existent..
I took a punt on this last year in lockdown, I had no comparison to trackman or anything but found the device great. The fact you can have a swing stick for indoors (low ceilings) annnnnd the attachment for your actual club is awesome (there are a couple of diff attachments). You can play aboit with settings a little to help calibrate to a distance you get for irons/driver etc. But in general it was a fantastic way to practice on your swing, and even try and increase your swing speed by trying slight variations in your swing to see if it affected the swing speed. I found it great value and the fact you got some courses on the Software as standard is really cool. You can add packages to your deal and i think even compete in online comps 🤷♂️
Please be more clear that this is an advertisement. A section of the description isn’t enough. You are going to be biased in your review if they give you $$$
Thanks for the heads up. That probably explains why he commented on basically everything but the vastly different backspin numbers. On one of his shots he even mentioned how both devices picked up sidespin but conveniently didn’t mention the 4500 rpm difference in backspin lol. But for only $200 it seems like it does a good job.
Wow thats kinda scummy. Atleast put #ad in the tags like 99% of youtube. He is also technically breaking the law because you need clear and easily recognizable mention or symbolizing that it is an ad (like mentioned in the video or a graphic of some sort)
Late to the party here, great review, but would love more testing with the small swing trainer because I don’t have the ceiling clearance to take swings with a full sized club during the winter. The small training club is the perfect size so would be using that most of the time, probably like a lot of people on here. Interested to see how well it performs with various club lengths through the bag
I bought this a couple of weeks ago and this video helped my decision . I can say I really like the product, I bought basically to help improve my swing speed. I am not sure if the swing speed it tells me is exactly right( which sim does) but my 9 iron goes the correct distance for me. I know that if I swing harder Tittle knows it. So , to help improve my swing speed this product is great. The E6 connect is very fun to play , the courses , driving range and games are all awesome.
The difference in distances comes from the different length of handles between TittleX and your normal iron. If you attached Tittle higher on the handle of the iron, it would be closer to you and therefore travel less distance over the swing. This way you'd get distances closer to reality, it was just attached too low :)
I only care about direction and carry...Total is variable to conditions! i just need to know i can carry that trouble and place the ball on my target line. Thank you for bringing quality product reviews that can potentially help us all
Carry is dependent on clubhead strike location, spin, ground conditions, etc. I am curious how accurate this device is with thin/fat shots as well as heel/toe strikes.
First off this thing is incredible. I’ve had it for almost a year. I am the most experienced golfer with this product. Nobody in the country out of the 10,000 unit sold has played more golf with this than me. I have over 10,000 holes of golf played and over 35,000 swings. I will soon be getting the 2.0. Mine is the swing logic, micro Sim.
Now owned and sold by Swinglogic, and called SLX Microsim. As of this writing, out of stock ! Id really like to see how gameplay works when playing an actual hole with the simulator club. How does putting work, for example?
Got for Christmas. I love it. Using the swing stick gives me higher ball speed numbers, though there was a definite learn curve. My initial efforts resulted in slower speeds, so a possible benefit is in training wrist release through the impact zone. I won't know until I get outside next spring. Short game is very difficult to learn but I am more interested in full swing results
Does it show if you slice or hook it? I was looking at getting one to use when hitting into a net in my garage. Has it helped you golf game or it this more of a video game? Thank you
Whats the latest on the 1yr question? 3 months ago you said you were working on it. Currently looking like a throwaway product after a year ! The E6 subscription costs im seeing after buying this product remind me of a laser printer where the replacement toner cartridges cost more than the printer !
I bought a similar swing trainer. It allowed me to swing and play golf inside since my ceilings are too low to swing a real club. However without being able to see a club face contacting the ball, it royally hosed my ball striking.
Hello Drew. Sorry to hear that. We are committed to providing helpful and fun products. As a low-cost simulator option, this product has its limitations, but the accuracy is hard to beat. Have you tried the product on your actual club at the driving range? Stay tuned as we will also be releasing a new radar product that can help you tune in that swing at the range or in the backyard into a net. Thank you for your business. We have a great network of swing coaches that we can introduce you to for some custom lessons also.
@@divotislandtechnologies-sw1134 thanks for the reply! It wasn't your technology that I purchased, but the swing trainer "club" concept is similar. Before I dive into this, I really do think your product is really cool and its great to see its relative accuracy vs the trackman! To be honest my issue probably was my fault since I didn't trust the accuracy of tech, and with no feedback indoors (seeing actual ball flight/face contact), I wasn't able to really validate if I was doing anything wrong or if it was the software. After using it all winter, I got out on the range this spring and found that I had created an extreme in-to-out swing and inconsistent contact with the ball (hitting ground first a lot and never hitting the center of the face). None of this was your (or the other company's) fault, but just something that I felt would be a good piece of feedback on Matt's review. I would absolutely use this on my real set of clubs, hitting a wiffleball or something. I just unfortunately don't have that ability indoors to swing a full club.
Do you have the phi golf one, Drew? I have that and it's not great with the sensor for accuracy. I think of it as more of a novelty/game at this point. I'd like to try it on a real club while hitting a ball though, eventually.
My appreciation for these types of products boils down to this. If face and impact are the most important thing in golf, but there is no face or impact, all this could possibly replicate is path. And path, club rotation can vary massively even among great golfers. So for fun, this is great, but impact and delivery cannot be "simulated" for an accurate or even close experience. The user simply does not have the feedback to apply the on-screen data to their swing in any relevant manor.
@@raywilliams5099 same as vr is you break your wrist then it will definitely show. U can still rotate the head of the club it’s just gonna take time to know where the face is
I think for the price this is a really cool product that is great for those who live where the weather makes it hard to play golf year round or who are on a tighter budget and I’m sure the tech will get better as they make updated versions
Hello Joshua. The response for mishits is not precise but will show a difference when using a real club. The indoor swing stick will not be able to predict to that degree. However, please stay tuned as we will soon be releasing a new radar product that I think will be a great solution for tuning your game.
@@divotislandtechnologies-sw1134 thanks for the reply! As a beginner golfer trying to practice at home getting accurate feedback about my mishits is really helpful.
Not sure you noticed, but the carry tended to be the same, but the Tittle X had nearly 2x the spin rate as Trackman and would likely impact total distance
There is the ability to adjust the settings to try and tune in the results. Spin is the elusive measurement that only the highest-end $15k+ products can reproduce outdoors, but we are working on solutions to improve this and bring accuracy to golfers at lower price points.
@@divotislandtechnologies-sw1134 For this technology, I assume it shouldn't actually be that hard to guess what is happening for a good shot. The device has no idea whether you topped the ball or how worn your grooves are so if they let you adjust it, it should be pretty decent. Assuming you hit the ball well on the swing and not top/shank it, play a flop shot or something.
I just recently got this product for Christmas, good for practice with a real club and golf ball. It does pickup mishits, but won't accurately portray mishits, I just end up using a mulligan on mishits. The swing stick is great for travel or indoor with low ceilings, but will ruin your contact. I only try using this on real clubs and mat. This at least lets me know distance and club face orientation. Definitely worth it if you have a mat and net setup. I'm using it outdoors in Florida with an iPad.
Garmin Tru-Swing was just like this, they discontinued, wonder if they sold it to Golf Pride. Mine is still usable and i liked the swing tempo measurement (goal of 3:1). It synced with my watch or my phone, them i could see results in Garmin Connect.
My and my buddies built a golf sim in my friends garage but I want something cheap and simple to do at my own house and backyard. I think this might just work!
I'd be interested in knowing how this is better/worse than the Rapsodo R-Motion. They look similar, as in tittle-x may be an OEM of the R-Motion? (NOTE: I'm not saying it is, I am just curious what is different from the R-Motion. It's just that the R-Motion has been discontinued and the timing seems right for another company to come in, buy the rights to it cheaply, and rebrand it.)
This product is a carbon copy of Rapsodo R-Motion with an extra swinging stick. The clubpath and angle is always very accurate due to the actual measurements using the accelerometer sensors but it could never tell you an accurate carry or total distance because these devices can not measure if you hit a shank or chunk. I already have R-Motion and it helped me correct my hooks but never helped me with my contact. If it's your swing path and club path that you wanna practice these devices are a bargain for their price. I wish they could come up with a device which has a doppler radar and a sensor for club like this then it would be the ultimate Trackman killer. ;) If Garmin and Rapsodo do a partnership and work together and come up with such device which would be a combination of Garmin R10 and R-Motion I would even pay the full SkyTrak price for it because it would have the potential to be more accurate then those devices...
I got this a couple weeks ago...and it's an absolute BLAST! I pull it out almost daily. Is it as accurate as a Trackman? I seriously doubt it, but look at the price! That said, clubs can be adjusted +/-10%...so probably close enough for most of us. Clubhead speed OTOH seems to track fairly well...though that's entirely anecdotal because I don't have regular access to a Trackman. But it SEEMS about right, given my past experience. I DID notice the same thing with the trainer distance...it's a little far/optimistic with the irons...I am CONSISTANTLY about 1 club over on short irons with the Tittle X. And if the "wind" is behind me...consider going two clubs down. Maybe. (That's that the bad.) To be fair, I CAN wallop my irons, but the algorithms are said to be based on a "pro" swing... I am NOT a professional. Low/Mid handicap these days at best. With real clubs it's simple enough to adjust. Well, +/-10%... If your REAL clubs are outside that 10%..? Yeah, I've got nothin'. And to be honest, I've not had the luxury/time to fully calibrate it to my clubs yet. Regardless, it's been GREAT to 'hit" golf balls on the road without having to check my clubs. (I travel WAY more than most, 200+ nights in hotels is the norm.) Sometimes I can take my clubs with me, most times I can't. This now allows me to work on my swing regardless of where I end up. BUT, the best part? "Playing" actual courses wherever I am. And it's easy enough with friends that are there or online. We can pull up an E6 Connect course have almost as much fun as we might on a real course. Yes, part of that is down to E6 Connect, but that the Tittle X is supported is a HUGE plus for me. It now has a permanent space in my suitcase.
The ability to see face contact is huge with me, ball flight is equally as important but actually see how the club hits the ball is a huge teaching aid
Agree John. That is an amazing benefit of higher end slow motion video. Lower end radar gets close but still relies on an algorithm. The simple device provides a low cost way to represent face angle, but as mentioned…. stay tuned for future product releases to push the envelope at an affordable price.
My sensor worked for 2 days then would no longer power up, or wake up from its sleep when plugged in to the charger. $266.00 for 2 days of use. Then useless!! It was fun for the 2 days that it worked.
It's even cheaper if you don't get the gaming stick. I didn't know you could hit it with a real golf ball. On some forums, real golf balls reduced the distance reading. I use it on foam balls indoors and it's pretty good for making contact. The putting however is horrendously inaccurate- I keep taking mulligans because of readinging errors. Otherwise, it's the ultimate cheap indoor simulator. You can play an entire round on E6 with analysis on your clubs. Installed on my phone and then screen mirror to my big TV while hitting foam balls into a net is the cheapest and easiest indoor simulator you can get. The driving range feature lets me see which clubs/shaft give me the highest swing speeds and good for trying to improve swing speeds which everyone wants.
For putting switch to real balls. Helps tremendously. Also, I usually pause on my back swing. I stopped that and it really helped the in game putting as well.
I just got this yesterday for Christmas, pretty happy with it, fairly odd to set up and it says it can connect to android (and has google play store app) but when I retrieve the license off of the website it forces me to choose Windows/PC or IOS only. I ended up using the license on my laptop since I can just take it to the hotels for work and swing in the room. I noticed it gives me a few more yards per club than normal except on the driver it hits the low end of my average. I haven't tried it on my clubs yet but glad to see from the video it looks accurate Questions I have are probably newb questions as I've never had a device like this or simulator but: 1) How do I aim on the course? Say I play a course and it aims safe for the middle of the fairway but I want to aim over the water. Manual didn't say anything 2) Putting seems like a nightmare, is that typical for devices like this or just a learning curve? I'll put what feels like 10 ft and it goes 20 feet.
This is an awesome video. I think im sold on this device. Ive got a nice mat and net in my garage and just looking for feedback on whether I'm making good contact. Ballparking distance is just a bonus.
I would like to see them make a product with just the sensor to attach to our clubs. Don’t really need the simulated golf club. Some cheap software to give us the basic numbers and flight when hitting into a net at home. Maybe in the $100 range.
I’ll have to try and find another review. I was watching for a breakout of what you get out of the box. I loved the comparison of numbers against the Trackman to determine level of accuracy . However, using the screen and projector and maybe other things (what is tittle-X) was confusing. Do I run the software on my laptop and swing the stick in my living room and get the same thing on my screen that you had on yours? How many clips come with in the package? Do you share one sensor? The company website is t very clear either and their packaging looks different so I’m not sure if you ah e a different model or just a different version.
It's basically a Rapsodo R-Motion. It gathers very little ball data. Everything is calculated from the clubhead. So Chunks generally fly a little shorter, and thins aren't really affected much at all.
@@WhyWeBuyIt yeah but i wouldn't be able to know if my swing is good if i use the club provided since club head speed wouldnt be changed at all since there iss no grounding?
@@jeff05989 exactly. It's far better if you attach a real club. That swing stick is provided for indoor use in case your neighbors can hear you swing a real club. Better than nothing I guess.
To be fair it gathers a substantial amount of actual clubhead speed and rotation data, but will inherently have some limitations. Stay tuned for a new product that we believe will has the potential to revolutionize accuracy for a reachable price.
wow! first thought this is gonna be like a Golf PS4.... but the accuracy is pretty close to trackman..... so correct me if I'm wrong? can the simulator both running on PC and your iphone at the same time???
The sensor needs to sync with one device at a time, but you can switch between the two. For the price range, the accuracy cannot be beaten. As with all the swing simulators, there are some inherent improvements in technology that align with the price point. With that said, stay tuned for our future product release in 2022 that will truly shake up the current price model providing superior precision at an everyday price point.
@@TGO88Video Stay Tuned. Joint Venture announcement is eminent. We have been working with TittleX throughout the year on the details and have don’t countless hours of testing with this product and others here in the United States, including getting feedback from professional golfers and top golf instructors. We have a passion for delivering the great game of golf to all skill levels, but especially new entrants and young players. As we are all aware golf requires a lot of confidence we strive to provide that while also striving to reach more skilled golfers looking to refine their game.
Bought this after watching the review really looking forward to trying it out and seeing if it’ll match up with my PRGR results. Cheers for bringing the good content as always
Any updates on the product? i have just enough space in my room for a full swing with a medium net with practice balls and was hoping this was at least semi accurate for some weekday golf practice.
@@ethanruiz3022 it’s definitely worth the price I love it, the weather here in Scotland isn’t great so it’s a really good way for me to keep practicing without getting soaked 🤣 also it comes from South Korea and only took about a week or two to arrive in Glasgow so was happy with that too
Are the stock lofts adjustable? Could be a difference as well. I had to put in that info and and distance from club head for the old rhapsodo (comparable type of tech).
There is some calibration that can be made for distance, putting, sensitivity, and skill level. When using your own golf clubs the sensor will work as you change out clubs. We also want to stay tuned for user suggestions as we continue to improve the products being offered.
Also, the one key advantage in the difference is the sensor below the grip is sensitive enough to give a more accurate clubface angle than lower-end radar can do alone. Stay tuned for new products coming soon also. UPDATES@swinglogic.us if you want more info for product launch.
Funny enough they must have had a hard time with the name, it is now called SwingLogic SLX. I live in a smaller area and not much room for the net and don't have a ceiling high enough to swing real clubs to make a real simulator. Really thinking about giving this a try, appreciate the review.
Great review. Question for anyone who may know. Does the E6 subscription that comes with this allow you to use it with anything else? For example i have a Mevo Plus but don't have a PC simulator yet. Would this work? Thanks ahead of time.
I don't think most people can appreciated that a mini multi-axis accelerometer plus data transmission be packaged complete with software that makes the computations to provide fairly realistic performance data is functional and affordable. This technology was not even remotely possible just a generation ago.
I am a little surprised by my results with the real club and ball, a bit of a letdown versus the video results. Mr. Short Game got great results but mine was way off versus the swing stick. Not really sure what to say or why I am having issues? I will keep playing with it to see if I can get better results.
I need to compare the results of the slx to a real launch monitor. i cant believe that i really exceed 100mph clubhead speed. that would mean that i should try a stiff shaft.
Received as a Christmas gift and totally impressed with what it does for what it is...thank you very much for the demo, I requested this as a gift from watching your demo from 3 months ago
Some ability to adjust this, but as mentioned there is reliance on club selection. Hope in the future would be selecting your clubs, shady, and ball to truly refine the estimates.
Do you have a tittle x contact, I just got mine connected and after three swings it shuts off, I cannot get it to turn back on no matter how long it charges? I cannot get a hold of customer support. Thx
Golf toys like this is for family fun and friends/guest tryna get them involved in a golf swing… it will never give you true results from a golf swing just a simulation of… I’ve owned these kinds of products never but for accuracy just for fun ✌🏾 on the flip side I just received my p790 irons hurray!
I love the idea, especially having golf friends all around the country. I live in the Midwest, and it would be cool to have some fun and work on the swing through winter.
Couldn't agree more. It is also great for hitting into a net in the backyard. Stay tuned for additional products in the lineup coming in 2022 with a new Joint Venture with Divot Island Technologies.
I use Phi Golf with WGT and it is amazing. Pretty accurate compared to the expensive simulators. This product looks pretty good as well. Love the demo.
Well done Matt. Nice review. I would love to see you intentionally hit some draws and fades in doors. To see how it was recorded on both systems. Pretty enticing for 200 bucks.
Enticing, appealing, desirable, oh my. Great product for increasing data analytics inside and out. The price point is hard to beat. We all want the quality of a Bentley for the price of an accord. We are dedicated to breaking the mold and providing fun and helpful products. We have additional product releases planned for 2022 to build on this and bring technology to golfers of all skill levels.
Bought this in November, the sensor fell off the clip and it doesn’t work. Plus, no 1-800 number so, I’m hoping someone will get back to me through email 😒😒😒
Love how one of the channels I watch most reviews this product, my uncle is the one who made this product. Super proud moment to see how far it has come and see it on your channel! Really awesome
Tell your uncle to fix the connection issues, just bought one today. Couldn’t wait to use it and it just won’t stay connected to my pc
He didn’t make it, he bought existing IP. Then failed to deliver on kickstarter X3 hybrid.
MrShortGame, thanks for the review against Trackman. I purchased TittleX to get me through last winter's lockdown and had a blast with it. It favourably benchmarked clubhead speed and carry against PRGR, but I was never sure about face angle and path. If I understand your video, its fair to say that TittleX gives a fair representation of ball direction and flight path.
I love your videos. They get straight to the point. Lots of youtubers demoing golf gear but they beat around the bush for too long. Happy to find a channel that doesn't waste my time!
Right on, I couldn't find this last October, I went with the Phigolf Swing trainer, we now have a FACEBOOK group ( 3 groups actually) where we host tournaments, the big thing about tittlx and Phigolf is it keeps us swinging all winter, especially for my man cave where I can't swung a real club.. I increased my swing speed overall during a winter season where here on Nova Scotia, golf becomes non existent..
I took a punt on this last year in lockdown, I had no comparison to trackman or anything but found the device great. The fact you can have a swing stick for indoors (low ceilings) annnnnd the attachment for your actual club is awesome (there are a couple of diff attachments). You can play aboit with settings a little to help calibrate to a distance you get for irons/driver etc. But in general it was a fantastic way to practice on your swing, and even try and increase your swing speed by trying slight variations in your swing to see if it affected the swing speed. I found it great value and the fact you got some courses on the Software as standard is really cool. You can add packages to your deal and i think even compete in online comps 🤷♂️
Thanks for thee feedback Ian.
does the swing stick know if youll fat it?
Please be more clear that this is an advertisement. A section of the description isn’t enough. You are going to be biased in your review if they give you $$$
Thanks for the heads up. That probably explains why he commented on basically everything but the vastly different backspin numbers. On one of his shots he even mentioned how both devices picked up sidespin but conveniently didn’t mention the 4500 rpm difference in backspin lol. But for only $200 it seems like it does a good job.
Wow thats kinda scummy. Atleast put #ad in the tags like 99% of youtube. He is also technically breaking the law because you need clear and easily recognizable mention or symbolizing that it is an ad (like mentioned in the video or a graphic of some sort)
Show evidence
have you nothing better to do really
@@CarrterGolf1 he puts in description it’s a paid ad
Late to the party here, great review, but would love more testing with the small swing trainer because I don’t have the ceiling clearance to take swings with a full sized club during the winter. The small training club is the perfect size so would be using that most of the time, probably like a lot of people on here. Interested to see how well it performs with various club lengths through the bag
I bought this a couple of weeks ago and this video helped my decision . I can say I really like the product, I bought basically to help improve my swing speed. I am not sure if the swing speed it tells me is exactly right( which sim does) but my 9 iron goes the correct distance for me. I know that if I swing harder Tittle knows it. So , to help improve my swing speed this product is great. The E6 connect is very fun to play , the courses , driving range and games are all awesome.
In the settings, u have to choose between a club and the swing trainer, that’s probably what it was throwing off your distance using the swing stick.
The difference in distances comes from the different length of handles between TittleX and your normal iron. If you attached Tittle higher on the handle of the iron, it would be closer to you and therefore travel less distance over the swing. This way you'd get distances closer to reality, it was just attached too low :)
I only care about direction and carry...Total is variable to conditions! i just need to know i can carry that trouble and place the ball on my target line.
Thank you for bringing quality product reviews that can potentially help us all
Carry is dependent on clubhead strike location, spin, ground conditions, etc. I am curious how accurate this device is with thin/fat shots as well as heel/toe strikes.
That's exactly what I'm looking for. Just knowing I'm making solid contact hitting into my net.
First off this thing is incredible. I’ve had it for almost a year. I am the most experienced golfer with this product. Nobody in the country out of the 10,000 unit sold has played more golf with this than me. I have over 10,000 holes of golf played and over 35,000 swings. I will soon be getting the 2.0. Mine is the swing logic, micro Sim.
Now owned and sold by Swinglogic, and called SLX Microsim. As of this writing, out of stock !
Id really like to see how gameplay works when playing an actual hole with the simulator club. How does putting work, for example?
Got for Christmas. I love it. Using the swing stick gives me higher ball speed numbers, though there was a definite learn curve. My initial efforts resulted in slower speeds, so a possible benefit is in training wrist release through the impact zone. I won't know until I get outside next spring. Short game is very difficult to learn but I am more interested in full swing results
Does it show if you slice or hook it? I was looking at getting one to use when hitting into a net in my garage. Has it helped you golf game or it this more of a video game? Thank you
Whats the latest on the 1yr question? 3 months ago you said you were working on it. Currently looking like a throwaway product after a year ! The E6 subscription costs im seeing after buying this product remind me of a laser printer where the replacement toner cartridges cost more than the printer !
I bought a similar swing trainer. It allowed me to swing and play golf inside since my ceilings are too low to swing a real club. However without being able to see a club face contacting the ball, it royally hosed my ball striking.
Hello Drew. Sorry to hear that. We are committed to providing helpful and fun products. As a low-cost simulator option, this product has its limitations, but the accuracy is hard to beat. Have you tried the product on your actual club at the driving range? Stay tuned as we will also be releasing a new radar product that can help you tune in that swing at the range or in the backyard into a net. Thank you for your business. We have a great network of swing coaches that we can introduce you to for some custom lessons also.
@@divotislandtechnologies-sw1134 thanks for the reply! It wasn't your technology that I purchased, but the swing trainer "club" concept is similar. Before I dive into this, I really do think your product is really cool and its great to see its relative accuracy vs the trackman! To be honest my issue probably was my fault since I didn't trust the accuracy of tech, and with no feedback indoors (seeing actual ball flight/face contact), I wasn't able to really validate if I was doing anything wrong or if it was the software. After using it all winter, I got out on the range this spring and found that I had created an extreme in-to-out swing and inconsistent contact with the ball (hitting ground first a lot and never hitting the center of the face). None of this was your (or the other company's) fault, but just something that I felt would be a good piece of feedback on Matt's review. I would absolutely use this on my real set of clubs, hitting a wiffleball or something. I just unfortunately don't have that ability indoors to swing a full club.
@@divotislandtechnologies-sw1134 Will your new product be available before Chrismas? And how would I find out about it? Thanks....
Also. Website coming SOON, but emails are now active.
Do you have the phi golf one, Drew? I have that and it's not great with the sensor for accuracy. I think of it as more of a novelty/game at this point. I'd like to try it on a real club while hitting a ball though, eventually.
My appreciation for these types of products boils down to this. If face and impact are the most important thing in golf, but there is no face or impact, all this could possibly replicate is path. And path, club rotation can vary massively even among great golfers. So for fun, this is great, but impact and delivery cannot be "simulated" for an accurate or even close experience. The user simply does not have the feedback to apply the on-screen data to their swing in any relevant manor.
If the device is aligned on the shaft it should spatially know where the club face is right?
@@raywilliams5099 same as vr is you break your wrist then it will definitely show. U can still rotate the head of the club it’s just gonna take time to know where the face is
I think for the price this is a really cool product that is great for those who live where the weather makes it hard to play golf year round or who are on a tighter budget and I’m sure the tech will get better as they make updated versions
Thanks for the supportive comments Wozza
How well does it handle severe mishits? Like a topped ball or massive slice.
Hello Joshua. The response for mishits is not precise but will show a difference when using a real club. The indoor swing stick will not be able to predict to that degree. However, please stay tuned as we will soon be releasing a new radar product that I think will be a great solution for tuning your game.
@@divotislandtechnologies-sw1134 thanks for the reply! As a beginner golfer trying to practice at home getting accurate feedback about my mishits is really helpful.
Not sure you noticed, but the carry tended to be the same, but the Tittle X had nearly 2x the spin rate as Trackman and would likely impact total distance
There is the ability to adjust the settings to try and tune in the results. Spin is the elusive measurement that only the highest-end $15k+ products can reproduce outdoors, but we are working on solutions to improve this and bring accuracy to golfers at lower price points.
@@divotislandtechnologies-sw1134 For this technology, I assume it shouldn't actually be that hard to guess what is happening for a good shot. The device has no idea whether you topped the ball or how worn your grooves are so if they let you adjust it, it should be pretty decent. Assuming you hit the ball well on the swing and not top/shank it, play a flop shot or something.
I just recently got this product for Christmas, good for practice with a real club and golf ball. It does pickup mishits, but won't accurately portray mishits, I just end up using a mulligan on mishits. The swing stick is great for travel or indoor with low ceilings, but will ruin your contact. I only try using this on real clubs and mat. This at least lets me know distance and club face orientation. Definitely worth it if you have a mat and net setup. I'm using it outdoors in Florida with an iPad.
Contact as in hitting the ball with the club? How does it ruin it?
you can use it with a net outside?
Does this require a subscription that you have to renew every year or is it a one time payment?
Garmin Tru-Swing was just like this, they discontinued, wonder if they sold it to Golf Pride. Mine is still usable and i liked the swing tempo measurement (goal of 3:1). It synced with my watch or my phone, them i could see results in Garmin Connect.
My and my buddies built a golf sim in my friends garage but I want something cheap and simple to do at my own house and backyard. I think this might just work!
I noticed that this device gives about twice as much back spin rate. That would account for the difference in roll out.
i was about to comment this, weird that its almost double every time
What do you want for £200 😂
I should also say that I bought it from South Korea and it literally took 7 days to get to Canada. Awesome.
I feel all those non-club devices need is a lazer projecting where the clubface would be on the ground. This is so we can address the "ball" properly.
Seems like a fun way to play a more causal game w friends. Somewhere between a simulator and Golden Tee.
I'd be interested in knowing how this is better/worse than the Rapsodo R-Motion. They look similar, as in tittle-x may be an OEM of the R-Motion? (NOTE: I'm not saying it is, I am just curious what is different from the R-Motion. It's just that the R-Motion has been discontinued and the timing seems right for another company to come in, buy the rights to it cheaply, and rebrand it.)
This product is a carbon copy of Rapsodo R-Motion with an extra swinging stick. The clubpath and angle is always very accurate due to the actual measurements using the accelerometer sensors but it could never tell you an accurate carry or total distance because these devices can not measure if you hit a shank or chunk. I already have R-Motion and it helped me correct my hooks but never helped me with my contact. If it's your swing path and club path that you wanna practice these devices are a bargain for their price. I wish they could come up with a device which has a doppler radar and a sensor for club like this then it would be the ultimate Trackman killer. ;) If Garmin and Rapsodo do a partnership and work together and come up with such device which would be a combination of Garmin R10 and R-Motion I would even pay the full SkyTrak price for it because it would have the potential to be more accurate then those devices...
So even if you're swing would be a shank or chunk the sim. will just send it down the fairway anyways?
@@pete4ism yep exactly...
Is this better than phigolf and TruGolf MINI? And does this provide network plan mode?
YESS!! Can we please get a video covering the differences between these ???
I got this a couple weeks ago...and it's an absolute BLAST! I pull it out almost daily.
Is it as accurate as a Trackman? I seriously doubt it, but look at the price! That said, clubs can be adjusted +/-10%...so probably close enough for most of us.
Clubhead speed OTOH seems to track fairly well...though that's entirely anecdotal because I don't have regular access to a Trackman. But it SEEMS about right, given my past experience.
I DID notice the same thing with the trainer distance...it's a little far/optimistic with the irons...I am CONSISTANTLY about 1 club over on short irons with the Tittle X. And if the "wind" is behind me...consider going two clubs down. Maybe. (That's that the bad.) To be fair, I CAN wallop my irons, but the algorithms are said to be based on a "pro" swing... I am NOT a professional. Low/Mid handicap these days at best.
With real clubs it's simple enough to adjust. Well, +/-10%...
If your REAL clubs are outside that 10%..? Yeah, I've got nothin'. And to be honest, I've not had the luxury/time to fully calibrate it to my clubs yet.
Regardless, it's been GREAT to 'hit" golf balls on the road without having to check my clubs. (I travel WAY more than most, 200+ nights in hotels is the norm.) Sometimes I can take my clubs with me, most times I can't. This now allows me to work on my swing regardless of where I end up.
BUT, the best part? "Playing" actual courses wherever I am. And it's easy enough with friends that are there or online. We can pull up an E6 Connect course have almost as much fun as we might on a real course. Yes, part of that is down to E6 Connect, but that the Tittle X is supported is a HUGE plus for me. It now has a permanent space in my suitcase.
How do you calibrate the clubs on this? I bought it and it’s not giving me the numbers.
The ability to see face contact is huge with me, ball flight is equally as important but actually see how the club hits the ball is a huge teaching aid
Agree John. That is an amazing benefit of higher end slow motion video. Lower end radar gets close but still relies on an algorithm. The simple device provides a low cost way to represent face angle, but as mentioned…. stay tuned for future product releases to push the envelope at an affordable price.
Thanks Matt! I just added this to my Amazon wish list.
My sensor worked for 2 days then would no longer power up, or wake up from its sleep when plugged in to the charger.
$266.00 for 2 days of use. Then useless!!
It was fun for the 2 days that it worked.
It's even cheaper if you don't get the gaming stick. I didn't know you could hit it with a real golf ball. On some forums, real golf balls reduced the distance reading. I use it on foam balls indoors and it's pretty good for making contact. The putting however is horrendously inaccurate- I keep taking mulligans because of readinging errors. Otherwise, it's the ultimate cheap indoor simulator. You can play an entire round on E6 with analysis on your clubs. Installed on my phone and then screen mirror to my big TV while hitting foam balls into a net is the cheapest and easiest indoor simulator you can get. The driving range feature lets me see which clubs/shaft give me the highest swing speeds and good for trying to improve swing speeds which everyone wants.
For putting switch to real balls. Helps tremendously. Also, I usually pause on my back swing. I stopped that and it really helped the in game putting as well.
I just got this yesterday for Christmas, pretty happy with it, fairly odd to set up and it says it can connect to android (and has google play store app) but when I retrieve the license off of the website it forces me to choose Windows/PC or IOS only. I ended up using the license on my laptop since I can just take it to the hotels for work and swing in the room. I noticed it gives me a few more yards per club than normal except on the driver it hits the low end of my average. I haven't tried it on my clubs yet but glad to see from the video it looks accurate
Questions I have are probably newb questions as I've never had a device like this or simulator but:
1) How do I aim on the course? Say I play a course and it aims safe for the middle of the fairway but I want to aim over the water. Manual didn't say anything
2) Putting seems like a nightmare, is that typical for devices like this or just a learning curve? I'll put what feels like 10 ft and it goes 20 feet.
It says they are unavailable and even the website says that to
Great review! A very nice surprise for a cheaper option.
Backspin is way off 12000 rpm on a 7 iron?
This is an awesome video. I think im sold on this device. Ive got a nice mat and net in my garage and just looking for feedback on whether I'm making good contact. Ballparking distance is just a bonus.
This looks like the go too for me, Canadian winter is here! Thx for the upload Matt....Subbed and liked!
Price is actually $119 on the companies website if you don't want the swing impact stick
I just ordered one without the stick, cant wait to try!!
Does it read the same when hitting a foam ball or does that introduce variance?
I would like to see them make a product with just the sensor to attach to our clubs. Don’t really need the simulated golf club. Some cheap software to give us the basic numbers and flight when hitting into a net at home. Maybe in the $100 range.
I'd like to get this set up in my garage. How does one get the big screen and projector to display in addition to buying this device?
I’ll have to try and find another review. I was watching for a breakout of what you get out of the box. I loved the comparison of numbers against the Trackman to determine level of accuracy . However, using the screen and projector and maybe other things (what is tittle-X) was confusing. Do I run the software on my laptop and swing the stick in my living room and get the same thing on my screen that you had on yours? How many clips come with in the package? Do you share one sensor? The company website is t very clear either and their packaging looks different so I’m not sure if you ah e a different model or just a different version.
I bought one, its pretty awesome for the price. The practice club stats are about 30 yards longer than real clubs.
I have this as well. For some reason my numbers arnt ending up like mrshort game.
does it vibrate/ give feedback through the grip when it makes the sound of contact with the ball or is it an inanimate swing stick
the swing stick gives feedback, there's something inside the swing stick itself
Good toy for the money. I travel a lot and the compact stick would be great.
Couldn't agree more. It works great on an IPad or mirrored to a TV in hotel. stay tuned for more great products UPDATES@swinglogic.us
I just laughed so hard. You're tone and humor is simply hard to emulate
question. if you topped or chunk it with the given club, does it know?
Good question, I was wondering the same…
It's basically a Rapsodo R-Motion. It gathers very little ball data. Everything is calculated from the clubhead. So Chunks generally fly a little shorter, and thins aren't really affected much at all.
@@WhyWeBuyIt yeah but i wouldn't be able to know if my swing is good if i use the club provided since club head speed wouldnt be changed at all since there iss no grounding?
@@jeff05989 exactly. It's far better if you attach a real club. That swing stick is provided for indoor use in case your neighbors can hear you swing a real club. Better than nothing I guess.
To be fair it gathers a substantial amount of actual clubhead speed and rotation data, but will inherently have some limitations. Stay tuned for a new product that we believe will has the potential to revolutionize accuracy for a reachable price.
How does this compare to the TruGolf Mini? Looks nearly identical.
wow! first thought this is gonna be like a Golf PS4.... but the accuracy is pretty close to trackman..... so correct me if I'm wrong? can the simulator both running on PC and your iphone at the same time???
The sensor needs to sync with one device at a time, but you can switch between the two. For the price range, the accuracy cannot be beaten. As with all the swing simulators, there are some inherent improvements in technology that align with the price point. With that said, stay tuned for our future product release in 2022 that will truly shake up the current price model providing superior precision at an everyday price point.
@@divotislandtechnologies-sw1134 that future product is made by your company?
@@TGO88Video Stay Tuned. Joint Venture announcement is eminent. We have been working with TittleX throughout the year on the details and have don’t countless hours of testing with this product and others here in the United States, including getting feedback from professional golfers and top golf instructors. We have a passion for delivering the great game of golf to all skill levels, but especially new entrants and young players. As we are all aware golf requires a lot of confidence we strive to provide that while also striving to reach more skilled golfers looking to refine their game.
excuse me, but how a desktop pc can read from the sensor of the tittle x???
@@kathyking295 Bluetooth?
Bought this after watching the review really looking forward to trying it out and seeing if it’ll match up with my PRGR results. Cheers for bringing the good content as always
Any updates on the product? i have just enough space in my room for a full swing with a medium net with practice balls and was hoping this was at least semi accurate for some weekday golf practice.
@@ethanruiz3022 it’s definitely worth the price I love it, the weather here in Scotland isn’t great so it’s a really good way for me to keep practicing without getting soaked 🤣 also it comes from South Korea and only took about a week or two to arrive in Glasgow so was happy with that too
Does it pick it up well if you shank it? Looked liked it had every shot going right down the pipe
Are the stock lofts adjustable? Could be a difference as well. I had to put in that info and and distance from club head for the old rhapsodo (comparable type of tech).
There is some calibration that can be made for distance, putting, sensitivity, and skill level. When using your own golf clubs the sensor will work as you change out clubs. We also want to stay tuned for user suggestions as we continue to improve the products being offered.
Also, the one key advantage in the difference is the sensor below the grip is sensitive enough to give a more accurate clubface angle than lower-end radar can do alone. Stay tuned for new products coming soon also. UPDATES@swinglogic.us if you want more info for product launch.
Matt your videos are great, keep them up
Funny enough they must have had a hard time with the name, it is now called SwingLogic SLX. I live in a smaller area and not much room for the net and don't have a ceiling high enough to swing real clubs to make a real simulator. Really thinking about giving this a try, appreciate the review.
can you adjust the tension on the swing stick?
So this would work hitting into a net in my backyard correct ?
This product shows open/closed clubface but not the degrees? Will future products break it down ?
Can it be connected to a projector onto a golf impact sreen
Great review. Question for anyone who may know. Does the E6 subscription that comes with this allow you to use it with anything else? For example i have a Mevo Plus but don't have a PC simulator yet. Would this work? Thanks ahead of time.
I don't think most people can appreciated that a mini multi-axis accelerometer plus data transmission be packaged complete with software that makes the computations to provide fairly realistic performance data is functional and affordable. This technology was not even remotely possible just a generation ago.
If I have E6 for my Mevo Plus can I just connect this device to that?
For indoors do you have to have a ball and net?
I am a little surprised by my results with the real club and ball, a bit of a letdown versus the video results. Mr. Short Game got great results but mine was way off versus the swing stick. Not really sure what to say or why I am having issues? I will keep playing with it to see if I can get better results.
How does it compare to the Blast Motion?
Why is this product unavailable both on Amazon and the main company website?
Looks like an pretty cool device. What are the using for projection from pc to the big screen?
So would you say it’s not necessarily good as a training tool but good for just goofing off?
How does this thing come up with spin rate? On your driver that was the difference in distance. TittleX had 2500, Trackman 1500. Android?
It's just doing math based on the club you select and swing speed
What he said :) there is some built in calibrations and we will always work to gather data to improve accuracy and calibration with updates
Very helpful review! Going on my Christmas list!
Awesome Info Mr. !
It looks cool! Would like to try it with family :) Christmas is comingg
I have four children and they all love the stick. With the ability to set the sensitivity to beginner it makes playing very fun for them.
I need to compare the results of the slx to a real launch monitor. i cant believe that i really exceed 100mph clubhead speed. that would mean that i should try a stiff shaft.
Trackman isn't accurate indoors am i correct? as it needs to track the ball.
GCQuad is the baby required here!
wondering what shafts those are in his irons?
Received as a Christmas gift and totally impressed with what it does for what it is...thank you very much for the demo, I requested this as a gift from watching your demo from 3 months ago
Thanks for a great video. Very informative, I will buy one.
Am I correct that it's going to ignore whether the shot is thick, thin, toed and heeled?
Amazon says "currently unavailable". Maybe tied to the recent shortages of.. everything.
Spin numbers were crazy
Pretty cool for the price. Seems like the backspin was way off, which is probably why the roll out wasn't great.
Some ability to adjust this, but as mentioned there is reliance on club selection. Hope in the future would be selecting your clubs, shady, and ball to truly refine the estimates.
Could that variation in club head speed be caused by the variations in flex along portions of the shaft?
Great review. I'm enjoying it!
Do you have a tittle x contact, I just got mine connected and after three swings it shuts off, I cannot get it to turn back on no matter how long it charges? I cannot get a hold of customer support. Thx
Is it to hit the ball of no import-ants?
I mean.. if you swing it 90° flat, will it still produce valid shot?
it says the backspin on ur 7 iron shot was 12000 5:00 is that even possible i cant even get that much spin with a 60 degree
Golf toys like this is for family fun and friends/guest tryna get them involved in a golf swing… it will never give you true results from a golf swing just a simulation of… I’ve owned these kinds of products never but for accuracy just for fun ✌🏾 on the flip side I just received my p790 irons hurray!
Also said his driver was 1500 on track man and then 2800 comparatively on n the other gadget. Very different, but not bad for the price
Spin isn’t totally accurate. Even Trackman is off with how close my screen is to impact
I love the idea, especially having golf friends all around the country. I live in the Midwest, and it would be cool to have some fun and work on the swing through winter.
Thanks for the thoughts.
Sounds very ideal for an indoor setup using foam balls.. as close as you can get to the real thing without breaking the bank.
Couldn't agree more. It is also great for hitting into a net in the backyard. Stay tuned for additional products in the lineup coming in 2022 with a new Joint Venture with Divot Island Technologies.
Graft review. How does it work with real clubs, but a plastic practice ball (i.e. if you don't have a net or screen)?
I've seen a similar product called phi golf. I wonder if that is any good or close to a real simulator
I use Phi Golf with WGT and it is amazing. Pretty accurate compared to the expensive simulators. This product looks pretty good as well. Love the demo.
Well done Matt. Nice review. I would love to see you intentionally hit some draws and fades in doors. To see how it was recorded on both systems. Pretty enticing for 200 bucks.
Enticing, appealing, desirable, oh my. Great product for increasing data analytics inside and out. The price point is hard to beat. We all want the quality of a Bentley for the price of an accord. We are dedicated to breaking the mold and providing fun and helpful products. We have additional product releases planned for 2022 to build on this and bring technology to golfers of all skill levels.
Did I miss the results with actual range vs the sim?
loveit! But is this thing discontinued? I cant find it anywhere, even Amazon!
Very like the R-Motion devices but way more expensive last time I checked. Thanks for the review Matt.
Can you pair this with iPhone so you can use it at the range with it in your clubs??
Bought this in November, the sensor fell off the clip and it doesn’t work. Plus, no 1-800 number so, I’m hoping someone will get back to me through email 😒😒😒