I FOUND GREGORY IN FNAF RUIN【FNAF : SECURITY BREACH】

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  • A fun little hypothesis for where I believe the real Gregory has been during the events of FNAF Security Breach DLC : RUIN using all the small details I believe are important evidence that people have been overlooking.
    Please remember this is just a theory / hypothesis, there is a lot of speculation involved in this particular video, and until more evidence is discovered, this is just one of many possibilities.
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  • @colekiesler6218
    @colekiesler6218 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2186

    Imagine one day it will be revealed that Gregory was actually the victim of the Bite of 87 all along and the lore will start back to square one.

    • @CatWithALime
      @CatWithALime 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +172

      That would suck

    • @CringekindaVR
      @CringekindaVR 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +169

      The would piss me off

    • @CatWithALime
      @CatWithALime 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@CringekindaVR Yea

    • @dasirrlicht5415
      @dasirrlicht5415 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +127

      So, SB is set in 2033... So its the bite of 2087, when Gregory is in his late 60s, early 70s. Who needs a frontal lobe at that age, anyways...

    • @ILokk
      @ILokk 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

      ​@@dasirrlicht5415bit of 87 is 1987, not 2087. Also the bite of 87 isn't the child getting bitten, it's a night guard being bitten. Crying child gets bit in 1983👍

  • @mrafton9457
    @mrafton9457 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +959

    Ladies and Gentlemen. We have discovered a new FNAF Theorist. Someone contact MatPat. This guy needs to join the team.

    • @diabetoman
      @diabetoman  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +133

      I'm honoured 😊

    • @0320hkada
      @0320hkada 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      i hope he reacts to this on gt(not)live!

    • @DarkShadow-hy6iq
      @DarkShadow-hy6iq 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yesssss

    • @Keks-sv6lw
      @Keks-sv6lw 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@diabetoman yk I actually wondered how the aka Mimic got the Roxie phone and I didn't notice that the backpack had an name tag of Gregory and that Gregory said down here, you really have an good Theorist Eye.

    • @TheHomieAspect
      @TheHomieAspect 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      SIR YES SIR ill go recommended him

  • @HarrisonLovesSouthPark
    @HarrisonLovesSouthPark 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +434

    Another fun fact: in Gregory’s first line during the elevator sequence he says, “it’s me”. It could just be an Easter egg, and it probably is, but maybe this has some meaning behind it!

    • @Rajd_is
      @Rajd_is 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I swear, that I'll break something is someone will use it as argument that Crying Child is the Golden Freddy, because Gregory looks similiar to Garrett

    • @Rajd_is
      @Rajd_is 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@livs4life11 CC/BV

    • @albertvilkul7848
      @albertvilkul7848 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Someone saying "It's Me" in the games and connecting it to a huge lore secret is the most FNaF thing to do XD

    • @animelover-tw2xl
      @animelover-tw2xl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@rajd_yt according to MatPat one of the children possessing Golden Freddy is the crying child while the other one is Cassidy but regardless it would ruin (no pun intended) the whole entire LORE of the FNAF Series

  • @sedarue123
    @sedarue123 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +877

    One thing of note is that the mimic did not know Cassie’s name in the beginning, or how to say the name in Gregory’s voice. it was later in the game it started saying Cassie, so it might have caught one of Gregory’s attempts to reach out and started mimicking his tone from then on. At this point I’m starting to wonder if the only way to tell if it was Gregory who dropped the elevator is to go back to security breach to see if Gregory says those words in a different context, and it was spliced together by the mimic.

    • @keizukiuta4261
      @keizukiuta4261 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

      It can also happen after security breach cuz Gregory's backpack is near the vent where mimics room is meaning they went to the pizzaplex and went down for some reason

    • @zerozleep5288
      @zerozleep5288 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

      it would make sense too because if gregory says ''we can't risk being followed'' to vanessa after security breach then the mimic maybe mimiced that@@keizukiuta4261

    • @wobblewarfare4494
      @wobblewarfare4494 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      The microphone has a little static halfway through so that could mean the mimic dropped the elevator

    • @dhlabsgaming1065
      @dhlabsgaming1065 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That makes sense!

    • @electrobob992
      @electrobob992 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      I personally think it was a TWO being job.
      Mimic did the voice, while the BLOB cut the cable.
      It did say "WE can't risk being followed", not "I".
      Combine that with the cut lines, we can assume those CUT lines were actually what he was going to say before the static after "Now It's free".
      The mimic and blob don't want to be followed, since they don't want her to stop them or FIND them later.

  • @spyroJM
    @spyroJM 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +967

    It would explain one of the endings in ruin when you see the Fredbear with the Vanni Mask. You see Gregory, Helpy, Vanessa, and 5 balloons in the background. I think Gregory, Vanessa, and possibly Freddy are not only dealing with the Mimic but the Blob as well. I think this Trio not only wanted to keep an eye on the Mimic but maybe the Blob too. It's still alive with Agony of the original missing children and the children that went missing in the Pizzaplex. If you listen closely when you deactivate the minibots, you can hear children crying. Hopefully, in the next DLC we can see the Fazbear Avengers 😆 going against these two

    • @diabetoman
      @diabetoman  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +147

      I love the idea of Fazbear Avengers XD But the idea that Cassie + Roxy search for and meet up with Gregory + Freddy + Vanessa is actually where I believe the story after RUIN will likely go.

    • @ShiriR6
      @ShiriR6 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      I'm pretty sure the fredbear/brazil ending has been practically confirmed to be a death ending where cassie goes insane and escapes to a fantasy world.

    • @angeljohn7446
      @angeljohn7446 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      *plays avengers music on max volume

    • @ItsSuperMoosh
      @ItsSuperMoosh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      ​@ShiriR6
      Yes. That's why it's called the Brazil ending. The movie ends with the main protag still being trapped and the whole movie was a fantasy in his head. Then the movie ends with the guy humming a song, essentially confirming he mentally broke.
      So yea, the Brazil ending is Cassie "finding a place to hide." As in, her consciousness broke and sank. She most likely dies or becomes a new minion for the mimic.

    • @Noah-Ingalls
      @Noah-Ingalls 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I think cassie already found Gregory and cassies death sequence isn't a death sequence

  • @Tangent_Pixel
    @Tangent_Pixel 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +364

    I noticed something that I haven't seen any theorists bring up yet, so I'm going to bring it up and hope that someone sees this. In the Pre-chase cutscene, Gregory says; "My friend has access to the building maps. Just follow (static) instructions." It sounds like Gregory said "his" not "my" and I don't think they would put static over it if it wasn't an important detail... but afterward we end up following instructions from GREGORY'S voice, with no indication that he's relaying it from someone else. Even if ignoring his instructions leads to a dead end (I don't know), isn't it possible that the Mimic took advantage of the chaos to start screaming directions behind her. He deliberately gave Cassie time to get in the elevator. My theory is that whoever was over the radio, the instructions were intercepted by Mimic, who needed Cassie to unlock the elevator for him. He probably intended to make it into the elevator with Cassie, but missed, and bringing the elevator back was plan B.

    • @TharsyanJaderuby
      @TharsyanJaderuby 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Now this is interesting.

    • @milkywayhuizar5641
      @milkywayhuizar5641 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      If that's true then the mimic deserves an Oscar for his dedication on losing his hand to sell his Gregory betrayal story

    • @Melissa.311
      @Melissa.311 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      But In the game files you see that Gregory is talking there. Anytime the mimic pretended to be Gregory it is labelled grimic. The TH-camr Dawko showed it in his mimic video or the video where he explains the canon ending

    • @ShadowIsABaby
      @ShadowIsABaby 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      @@Melissa.311that doesn’t say anything. The devs knew you all would go snooping and probably didn’t want to give the lore away, you know how strict they are with their clues and shit around the fnaf lore, they barely give us anything and makes us feel like we are going in circles.

    • @higueraft571
      @higueraft571 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Honestly, the main problem with this... What stops Mimic from just killing you, taking the Fazwrench, and unlocking the Elevator itself?
      Or just climbing OUT of the shaft through the ladders. It can move a Forklift with ease, and throw down with a Glamrock, it can PROBABLY pry open the doors to the elevator shaft you enter from, and climb up and out.
      As for instructions, the only split that ISNT death is at the very end
      ...which Greggory doesnt say anything for. Or the Mimic.
      >and I don't think they would put static over it if it wasn't an important detail...
      Honestly, a simple explanation. It's hiding the identity of WHO his friend is.
      Where the Static occurs is where one would normally say "his" or "her".
      As for him the Relaying bit... we dont hear the Other's instructions (because, much like Patient 46's tapes, that WOULD spoil who his friend is), but i do suspect this IS the case.

  • @chameleondemeleon9642
    @chameleondemeleon9642 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +392

    The file for the assistance bot is actually labeled as the real Gregory in the game files

    • @RedDecepticon
      @RedDecepticon 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Source?

    • @chameleondemeleon9642
      @chameleondemeleon9642 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@RedDecepticon look in the game files, I had to, you have to too

    • @huntress380
      @huntress380 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@RedDecepticon "The file for the assistance bot" he literally said the source lmao

    • @aura4967
      @aura4967 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      @@RedDecepticon Can confirm; in the game files, all voice lines of the Mimic is labelled 'Grimic', whilst the Staff bot voice line is labelled 'Gregory'

    • @chameleondemeleon9642
      @chameleondemeleon9642 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@aura4967 thank you.

  • @_Ecliptic
    @_Ecliptic 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +258

    Now, I really like these theories, game files USUALLY don't lie, and the betrayal scene is labeled as Gregory speaking while everything else is "Grimic" and yes, the staff bot Gregory is infact the real one, also I'm pretty sure when Gregory calls for you and Roxy notices and starts looking for Gregory, that is also the real one.

    • @diabetoman
      @diabetoman  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      I really need to start accessing the game files there seems to be very helpful stuff there XD I'm out here using voice acting to determine if the dudes real when I could be using code XD

    • @_Ecliptic
      @_Ecliptic 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      ​@@diabetomanI didn't even get any of this info from the game! Just other TH-camr and you're discovering this stuff without knowing that and guessing so many things right based off of voice lines and voice tones. You truly notice everything. XD
      oh and +1 sub

    • @diabetoman
      @diabetoman  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @_Eclipse thanks 😊 I'm actually very interested in voice acting and trying to learn it myself so I think it helps i know what to listen out for XD

    • @Muuony
      @Muuony 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      But this is FNAF where we reveal information in the code of a website so I can see them actually using it to trick us

    • @_Ecliptic
      @_Ecliptic 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@Muuony that's why I said "USUALLY"

  • @kittydemonoverkill
    @kittydemonoverkill 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +265

    1:25 there's also the time at the start of Salon where he tries to contact Cassie over the speakers, which lures Roxy away.

    • @thatonemechanicalskull
      @thatonemechanicalskull 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Someone didn’t watch the video

    • @kyiasfer26pogi95
      @kyiasfer26pogi95 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hes adding info @@thatonemechanicalskull

    • @Youarewhatyoueatsonic
      @Youarewhatyoueatsonic 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@thatonemechanicalskullthey’re talking about the first time Cassie sees Roxy. That was probably real Gregory trying to reach her

    • @thatonemechanicalskull
      @thatonemechanicalskull 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Youarewhatyoueatsonic yes, it was mentioned in the video

    • @Rajd_is
      @Rajd_is 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thatonemechanicalskull No, it wasn't
      I was said that this COULD also be real Gregory, not that it IS

  • @K808100
    @K808100 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +104

    For the radios, I used to work retail, restraunts, and military. Military/LE/First responders use actual radios with line of sight radios and sattelite. Others commonly use NETWORK radios so Gregory can easily tap into the network and transmit anywhere in the facility with internet/signals/network. Hope this helps!

    • @diabetoman
      @diabetoman  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Ahh interesting thank you 😊

    • @arjix8738
      @arjix8738 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Well, wifi signals are not known for being strong

  • @rexspecificallyredrex64rem73
    @rexspecificallyredrex64rem73 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +119

    It's really likely the earthquake was due to the Blob tunneling, hence the random Cavern out of no where.

    • @QuestionDeca
      @QuestionDeca 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Except other then the tunnel that cavern is a natural one.

  • @skullrabbit6250
    @skullrabbit6250 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +502

    I love these theorys just as much as i like game theorys. You did well

    • @diabetoman
      @diabetoman  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      Thank you 😊 I hope to keep making them better each time as well. I tested the water with some fun edits in this one, people seem to like it so I might do more in the future

    • @skullrabbit6250
      @skullrabbit6250 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@diabetoman THIS is the sorta stuff that makes you OWN potential

    • @carbondavid2155
      @carbondavid2155 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As someone who adores the last wish I really appreciated the Puss in Boots edit 😄

  • @Pechugo83
    @Pechugo83 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +143

    TL;DR: the elevator goes 600m underground in total (~2000ft)
    Before I do the math, note that when the elevator is falling, all objects inside are somehow stuck to the ceiling. Even if the elevator was perfectly free falling with no air resistance or friction whatsoever, objects inside would feel 0G and simply float around as if they were in space, so they would bounce off of the ceiling if they even reached it in the first place. This means that the elevator was somehow not only falling, but actively had some force besides gravitaty pulling it down. As far as I know, normal elevators are moved using a tensile cord, meaning that, although there's no limit for upwards speed, the fastest they can theoretically go downwards is just as fast as it can fall. So this is either a really weird elevator or it has been modified by whomever planned on cutting the elevator beforehand. Take that as proof for whomever you think cut the elevator's cord.
    Now onto the math itself:
    -We first have 2 seconds of normal gravitational falling acceleration; it's hard to determine a specific speed, so we will put 2 cases: where it barely accelerates (say, half the free fall acceleration) and another one where it accelerates ignoring any friction. This yields 2 limits (approximated):
    The lower boundry; 9m
    The higher boundry; 19.5m
    -Then we have 4 seconds of an active force pushing the elevator downwards. We can see that it takes Cassie half a second to reach the top of the elevator, which based on the mimic's model, I assume to be 2.8m tall. This means that the acceleration added to a full 9.81m/s^2 of free fall is the acceleration required to reach 2.8 m in 0.5 seconds. This is an impressive 22.4 m/s^2; added to the 9.8 is 32.2 m/s^2. Which is, in total, 257.6 m
    -Finally, Cassie continues at her top speed for half a second while the elevator decelerates and she crashes onto it. Similarly to the previous calculations, as it takes her the same time to reach the floor, the elevator decelerates at 22.4 m/s^2. (Btw this means that Cassie, a kid, hit a steel floor, face first, at over 11 m/s. I'm pretty sure that's lethal). Mirroring the previous calculations, it should take the elevator another 4 seconds to come to a halt (assuming it doesn't crash before that). And all that results in another 179.2 m.
    So, I think we can safely state that the elevator went 445.8 m to 456.3 m down. Approximate to 445-455m. That's damn deep considering how low we already are.
    Also, before we even take any stairs down and reach the elevator itself, we go through a hole filled with tree roots. The deepest tree roots ever are 120m deep, but they were found in South Africa. The previous elevator (where Cassie is sobbing) takes about 25 seconds in motion to reach the bottom. This, at a normal elevator speed, would easily reach even deeper. So the roots are a good top limit. Now we also go down a long way through some sets of stairs, so you can add like 20 meters maybe? So you could argue that since SB takes place in the future, they could've exported those trees. So, the deepest you could possibly say the elevator reaches is about 600 meters underground. For reference, that's just shy of being as deep as the deepest natural shaft in the world.
    🤓

    • @sludgeskin
      @sludgeskin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      i love smart people

    • @Noah-Ingalls
      @Noah-Ingalls 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hey I should have just made a full vid XD

    • @Noah-Ingalls
      @Noah-Ingalls 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You

    • @OLFatled
      @OLFatled 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I don't think the devs had fun making a logical number of meters or a perfect elevator cutscene but I do like people who are purists about that kind of thing.

    • @Pechugo83
      @Pechugo83 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@sludgeskin And I love you, random citizen!

  • @justafriendlycryptid
    @justafriendlycryptid 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    That... Would help explain how the Blob (I refuse to call our spaghetti boy the Tangle) got their Funtime Freddy head if it has been tunneling around the area.
    Going a step further who's to say its not Molten Freddy- I'd assume what is just an enraged amalgam of spaghetti cables would be rather hard to get rid of.

    • @diabetoman
      @diabetoman  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      yeah all the pieces in the blob I believe could be found in Pizza Sim ( FNAF 6 ) location or Sister location. Although some pieces could be from the display cases in rockstar row as well. So molten freddy burning at the end of FNAF 6 could definitely make him end up in the blob for sure

    • @higueraft571
      @higueraft571 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@diabetoman There's also the theory it's been gorging on Remnant-packed AR replicas.
      Especially since the FNAF 1s inside it look *way* too new, especially compared to the practically fossilized, certainly bleached/faded Foxy torso which almost *certainly* is original...
      Also the Baby shell which would likely need to come from AR?

  • @merbudd
    @merbudd 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    3:27 Not to mention, there is another overlooked detail here. When the tune sound plays again, there are TWO Gregory subtites, probably implying that the one at the top is real Gregory and the one at the bottom is Mimic Gregory, unless this is just some sort of bug in the subtitle coding.

    • @ForgedinPrint
      @ForgedinPrint 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That was a common glitch in sb. I wouldn't use that as evidence.

    • @merbudd
      @merbudd 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ForgedinPrint Could be, but then again, it could also show like that if the in-code names for them were different. Plus I don't think this happens anywhere else in Ruin, not in a normal playthrough at least.

  • @AstraFulminous
    @AstraFulminous 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    That's actually a pretty good catch. Gregory's wording is very specific. So I guess there really could be more to go. I was thinking the same thing because of the elevator. Although what if it's not just a third Pizzaria but a whole town beneath the area too. Either way I'm loving this theme of nearly every Pizzaria being located even further down the Pizzaplex each time.

    • @higueraft571
      @higueraft571 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      >but a whole town beneath the area too.
      Well, technically not wrong, since SL, both FNAF 4 houses, Fredbear's, and FNAF 6 are all in one area :V

  • @nisrinaprihadi2754
    @nisrinaprihadi2754 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    The earthquake can be caused by the blob movement. In ruin, we see him not at the same place as security breach. He was from the bottom of the pizza plex, whatever his movement will interfere with the building foundation.

    • @diabetoman
      @diabetoman  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah and that's what I believe Greg and Vanessa probably thought too which is what made them want to go check it out

  • @tetegaming7402
    @tetegaming7402 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Everything seems to point to Sister Location. I mean, Mimic is able to replicate voices and mislead people... these functionnalities were one the Funtimes, so it can be the basis of the Mimic technology. Plus, some theorized the use of illusion disk to make those objects you can phase through, technology also potentialy used on the Funtimes. Then the blob... isn't it weird that it uses Funtime Freddy's mask ? Maybe it just came from the expositions in the Pizzaplax so maybe it just is a coincidence but still...
    Also, what is better than the Sister Location complex to get a scooper and everything needed to perform remnant experiment (maybe for the Burntrap thing if that was what we thought ?)
    Then I have something to propose, I'm not sure but that might be intresting : we can all agree that the Burntrap layer does not look like the FNAF 6 vent system. However, I just looked due to an intuition and there is a map layout that looks more like it : the Sister Location private room office... not the office itself, but if you flip the map, you have the wide room, with two corridors straight to access it, and a vent in between ! There even is the camera in the vent ! Verything is not perfect thougth as the 3 rooms with the burner are not really aligned but that is the closest.
    And since we don't see the map of the complex, and we don't know how we really got into the room upon passing the door, nothing tells us we are on the same floor, so it could very well be above the SL, yet under the FNAF 6 vent system (seeing how far we fall under the Pizza Place to access it, that is possible).
    Also the elevator falls 230m in 7sec if you take acceleration into account.
    This were my thoughts, feel free to throw your arguments, for or against what I said, so we can all get closer to the truth.

  • @hydraproductions_official
    @hydraproductions_official 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +128

    Cool video! Definitely helped me understand more about the DLC.
    Your last suspicion that Help Wanted 2 might have something to do with the technicians/Cassie's father may have been proven in your video as well.
    Look at 13:29 on the right side of the elevator. There you can find the same conduits, that have accompanied you in the Ruin DLC.

    • @alannas1836
      @alannas1836 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I was going to say the same thing lol

    • @matthijs7722
      @matthijs7722 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it's not in the actual game like that

    • @leftory684
      @leftory684 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No that's just part of the elevator from SL

    • @hydraproductions_official
      @hydraproductions_official 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@matthijs7722 but in the trailer of FNaF HW 2

    • @hydraproductions_official
      @hydraproductions_official 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@leftory684 then look up the elevator from the original FNaF SL..

  • @hdgrim7662
    @hdgrim7662 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    At 14:14, in the bottom right side of the screen, there is a Conduit station puzzle that we see being used in the Ruin DLC with the faz-wrench. So Gregory might be down there in Sister Location in the new Help Wanted 2 game.

  • @ember613
    @ember613 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

    Your theory is really intresting, so intresting that you might actually be right about greg being down here with the mimic.

  • @Triple8_Extras
    @Triple8_Extras 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    One of the main things that confused me is the comic pages you find in the presents, and Cassie's descriptions of them. She recognises them as his drawings, but there's also the question of why he has drawings of each ending from SB.
    I figured it might be a case of him drawing every ending as a comic, except 1, that way we could figure out which was the real ending, but I think there's at least 1 for every ending 😐. And now my brain is hurting trying to think of why/how Gregory would be drawing the possible endings of SB and leaving them in the pizzaplex...unless the mimic was drawing them to try and plan a story to trick people with? (definitely not that though, maybe?)

    • @diabetoman
      @diabetoman  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      the princess quest ending is missing from the collectible comics which is one of the big reasons I think saving vanny is the canon ending. I did also play around with the idea that the comics were drawn by the mimic imitating gregorys drawings, and he's drawing all the alternate endings he sees in the AR world, because I have a feeling this AR world is actually the games code / a bridge between the videogame and reality like a Doki Doki Literature Club situation

    • @Triple8_Extras
      @Triple8_Extras 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@diabetoman Oh, cool. I do like the idea of the mimic trying to create a fake story he can then talk about in a believable way

    • @higueraft571
      @higueraft571 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Triple8_Extras In particular:
      Page 1 and 2 - Escape
      Page 3 and 4 - Fire Escape
      Page 5 and 6 - Road Trip
      Page 7 - Disassemble
      Page 8 - Burntrap

    • @ardnerusa
      @ardnerusa 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@diabetomanbut how did mimic drawings get in piccaplex rooms? Who put them there? Not mimic itself for sure

  • @VulpineChick
    @VulpineChick 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    The fact the Mimic is so well done that the players can't tell what's real or not without at least some sort of subtle detail is so cool

  • @lilbadwordYT
    @lilbadwordYT 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    My issue is that Burntrap physically has flesh whereas the mimic doesn't, along with mimic patently wearing costumes while killing.
    I think blob being there in the beginning of the dlc also confirms Burntrap, meaning it's still possible Blob destroys Burntrap and mimic was brought someone between security breach and ruin or wasn't a factor during security breach like maybe having burntrap present was keeping mimic at bay but without him, mimic would finally try and escape?

    • @BluePhoenix_
      @BluePhoenix_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Also the only endo part that is the same in both is one hand.
      Though they have shown the willingness to retcon the structure of an entire animatronic, like they did with Roxy.

    • @higueraft571
      @higueraft571 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BluePhoenix_ >Though they have shown the willingness to retcon the structure of an entire animatronic, like they did with Roxy.
      True, although it's INCREDIBLY bizzare for such a drastic change, inside and out, in a different location, and supposedly being trapped down there for a "really really long time", among other details.
      It almost seems to predate FNAF 6?

    • @nesrineelassri
      @nesrineelassri 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is nothing wrong with that
      Like circus baby and Scrap baby look kinda different but still are the same animatronic

  • @firevvall3589
    @firevvall3589 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    A very concerning part of the mimic is that it doesn't seem to need any power to operate. Unless it is powered by remenant/souls. Wich would be a good reasoning for the disapearing children. maybe it uses the voices of other kids.

    • @jostincalebbarbozarodrigue7183
      @jostincalebbarbozarodrigue7183 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I think in the books it is the stated that the mimic is filled with the agony of its creator after he beat it for the dead of his son, so it could be powered by the agony instead of energy, like the blob

  • @WarlockMiner
    @WarlockMiner 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    something that i think would be really cool in help wanted 2 is an explanation for the old suits that are near the mimics location. or at least a mention of the suits to give us something to go off of as to why they exist where they do. anyway, great video and i really do think that gregory is at the bottom of the elevator.

    • @diabetoman
      @diabetoman  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I've heard some theories say where the mimic was trapped is an old storage room of Henry's which is likely why it's all animal suits but yeah some confirmation would be nice

    • @higueraft571
      @higueraft571 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@diabetoman Similar theory yeah, no idea if they *are* Henry's, but they're certainly *old* suits, pre-1985 if you took the FNAF 3 calls into account, and potentially pre-FFD...
      Kinda wonder if they'll appear in that Fredbear's game Steel Wool mentioned, honestly

    • @sagrawolf
      @sagrawolf 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It’s likely after the two deaths from the spring lock suits the other employees refused to wear the suits and Henry bought a few old mascot costumes that were ancient even back then

    • @higueraft571
      @higueraft571 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@sagrawolf >It’s likely after the two deaths from the spring lock suits
      Not confirmed, only that Multiple Simultaneous Springlock Failures occurred, and the company Higher-ups deemed them too risky.
      And soon after William used one of the two suits to kill children, possibly killing Cassidy/TOYSHNK in the other via springlocking.

  • @niakhan5118
    @niakhan5118 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    One thing I want to mention is that in the scooper ending it is pretty obvious that the costume that the mimic stitched together is supposed to be a replication of Gregory somewhat. But this also implies that the Mimic and Gregory have met before because how else would it know how he looks?

    • @StrangerInTheSnow
      @StrangerInTheSnow 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I believe Gregory lured it into the room we find it in and distracted it long enough for the concrete to seal the door, but something went wrong, causing him to drop the walkie talkie and leave his bag behind. The only way in aside from the door is the vents, and while it is really hard to see, there are child-sized handprints on the vents leading both in and out of the room.
      The books mention that the mimic can basically shape-shift, so the vent may have been purposefully destroyed so it couldn’t get out. But that last bit is speculation on my part.

  • @User_Name.rbx755
    @User_Name.rbx755 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    So Gregory later on responds with 'It's been trapped down here for a really long time.' I think it is one of these two options.
    1. Cassie responded with 'You're a bit late! This thing in the Basement sounds just like you.'
    2. It was a mistake made by the voice actor.

    • @higueraft571
      @higueraft571 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Honestly, i've kinda always read it as Cassie's "Here", rather than *his* "here"

    • @DracoHandsome
      @DracoHandsome 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@higueraft571 if only the english language had a commonly known and intuitive way to say "your concept of here". perhaps if we shortened "THAT here" to something like "there"

  • @dozerfarms
    @dozerfarms 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    If you look at the labels for the voicelines in the game files, the S.T.A.F.F. Bot and the elevator lines are labeled Gregory, while everything else is labeled Grimic - or 'Gregory' and 'Mimic'

    • @Th3Sandwich
      @Th3Sandwich 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah dawko talked about this too

    • @dozerfarms
      @dozerfarms 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @mr.vondetta You watch him too I see lol

    • @ShadowIsABaby
      @ShadowIsABaby 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      It doesn’t change much. You guys always find a way to go snooping through the codes, they could be trying to trip you up because of that. Plus the fnaf lore always finds ways of changing.

    • @keizukiuta4261
      @keizukiuta4261 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes it says Gregory but there are two lines except the second sentence is different and considering the two subtitles+ the static, the developers wanted to confuse us thinking it's the real gregory who said that.

  • @fossilartstudios5878
    @fossilartstudios5878 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    If I had to guess how the mimic got the voice lines, even if it rarely is used, Gregory spends the whole game next to his faz watch, even when he says his name the watch is in freddys chest

  • @roxannewolfgaming2254
    @roxannewolfgaming2254 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Holy Exotic Butters! I didn't know this was a secret rare chance to hear Gregory's real voice from S.T.A.F.F Bot when Cassie is going to Roxy's Raceway. Thank you Daiya for making this video. ❤

  • @tigeyboi
    @tigeyboi 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    as someone who lives in utah, earthquake damage tends to happen due to landslides that occur after it, due to the ridiculous mountains and desert-y terrain, it’s possible, especially since the fnaf books (the silver eyes trilogy) take place near hurricane, which is notorious for hot weather, dry land, and mountains are everywhere. sinkholes occur commonly as well, seeing as we just had a freeway route closed due to one. though for just an earthquake or sinkhole to turn an entire mall building into an unsafe area does seem a little extreme.

    • @higueraft571
      @higueraft571 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      >though for just an earthquake or sinkhole to turn an entire mall building into an unsafe area does seem a little extreme
      As someone else noted, this *is* Fazbear Ent, known for being cheap as hell, especially if Mr Burrows is similar to (if not the same as) the game's counterpart :V

  • @endode9
    @endode9 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Gregory talking through the Staff Bot happened on my first playthrough. I thought it was weird when I heard the other version where the Staff Bot was asking Cassie if she needs assistance. Oh also, I think sometimes there isn't any audio for that, I didn't get audio for it during my playthough, and I watched some TH-camrs play it and they also didn't have audio. It was just the subtitles

  • @somenerdygirl4696
    @somenerdygirl4696 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Oooh I loved this.
    Also two things to note, when Gregory says "his friend" how come we don't assume it's glamrock freddy? He did leave with both of them and some of the previous endings Vanessa isn't with him. What bothers me about this is when Cassie is able to somehow see our "good ending" from the first game when she ignores Gregory's directions but Freddy is missing. How and why was she able to see this? Like it's an illusion as if the ending was an illusion. That trips me out.
    Second, the hand being chopped off from the elevator, gives me Coraline vibes when Coraline slams the door on the Other mothers hand. She was still able to control the disembodied hand, using it to stop/kill and save herself from Coraline. I feel like the voice change on the intercom was the mimic, same way Afton was able to control Freddy through the computer.

  • @spaghetti_rat7745
    @spaghetti_rat7745 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    i like the theory of why cassie fell for so long and how the sister location is under everything. it would make a decent amount of sense since in the sister location game, oxygen tanks are placed throughout the location and hand unit even says when he reboots all systems that oxygen will be unavailable until systems are back online.
    it goes to show that those details show that the sister location bunker is pretty deep underground if oxygen regulation is needed.
    and the fact that oxygen was even a detail in the first place seems like a pretty big hint. like being under the pizzaplex, the fnaf pizza sim location, and the mimic bunker is pretty deep in the ground and there’s never any sign of oxygen struggle.
    idk your theory is definitely onto something and i could just be crazy

  • @wyattcooksey5074
    @wyattcooksey5074 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    The thing is the pizza plex is built on hallow ground aka 2 whole locations are under it and the pizza plex was very cheaply made, as you see parts under construction all the time in the main game, if there was even a small earthquake, the cheaply made excessively large pizza plex would probably fall apart completely. there are enough earthquakes in Utah to cause many large buildings to go under construction to prevent what most likely happened to the pizza plex.

    • @diabetoman
      @diabetoman  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      That's a fair point actually, I didn't think about how poor the structural integrity of that place must be XD

    • @aventrolex
      @aventrolex 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      lmao sometimes when i play the game i get so surprised on how massive the pizzaplex is

    • @Noah-Ingalls
      @Noah-Ingalls 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      *actual earthquake happens to the pizzaplex*: (everyone dies)(Henry's oven now has no meaning)

    • @ShadowIsABaby
      @ShadowIsABaby 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      But you do also have the blob, I think the entire thing would shatter if that was the case, but if its just the blob then that can be easily explained.

    • @higueraft571
      @higueraft571 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@diabetoman ESPECIALLY since Roxy Raceway was practically a lost cause *before* the Blob dug a big hole and practically caused the whole thing to fall apart :V

  • @LPLGamer7
    @LPLGamer7 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I like the idea that help wanted 2 ties in directly after ruin and all the game is, is trying to figure out what the fazbear corporation is. I think the developers could use that as a way to answer a ton of questions.

  • @Shearper2
    @Shearper2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    If Cassie deactivated Roxy, then how did Roxy save Cassie? who reactivated Roxy after Cassie deactivated Roxy?

    • @diabetoman
      @diabetoman  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Amazing question that I genuinely have no solid idea about. My only guess was that where Cassie stuck the Faz Wrench looked a lot like the port used to reboot Eclipse. So my thought is she didnt deactivate roxy, and instead rebooted her, whether she realised it or not

    • @Shearper2
      @Shearper2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@diabetomanmaybe, but didn't eclipse reboot right away? why did it take Roxy so long? more complex program/machine maybe?

    • @i_llogicalmyth4118
      @i_llogicalmyth4118 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Maybe Gregory did it from the far, since Roxy still wants to kill him

    • @enochsadventures
      @enochsadventures 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      soul juice or something

    • @AcediaIX
      @AcediaIX 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@Shearper2probably cause Roxy was stuck under a car?

  • @krunchie-pd8yq
    @krunchie-pd8yq 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    to back up this theory gregory says "My friend has access to the building maps. Just follow (static) instructions" and the static kinda sounds like her and that could be reffering to vanessa

  • @SeptemberStranger28
    @SeptemberStranger28 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Also, another thing that supports the Mimic elevator theory: why would Gregory say we have to leave only to plunge us back down in the end?

  • @mailpaper7754
    @mailpaper7754 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    For the most part this theory makes sense, however it falls flat around the Sister Location, location (lol) being under the Fnaf6 location. We know from previous evidence that the Sister Location, location is underneath Afton’s house which is in a forest and nothing near it. Sure time has passed, but why would Henry of all people go to the location of a serial killers old house, build a pizzeria on top of it, and then years later Fazbear Entertainment come to that location and build the Pizzaplex. Really great theory though it just falls flat there.

    • @diabetoman
      @diabetoman  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yeah that bothered me too, I might look into it and maybe see if I can cook up a theory around it. Maybe the afton house was demolished and it was coincidence the other establishments ended up there XD I dunno something to look into I guess

    • @josephschugel6538
      @josephschugel6538 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      well if Mike is the one who owns the fnaf 6 location, it is possible that it could be on the land where his family's house was

    • @mailpaper7754
      @mailpaper7754 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@josephschugel6538 Except Michael didn't own the Fnaf6 location, Henry did. Heck by the way Henry was talking, he never planned for Michael to even be there since he had a way out planned for him, but since it was Michael he knew Michael would want to stay and burn with the rest of his family.

    • @ShiriR6
      @ShiriR6 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      fnaf 6 location being by williams house and the sister location could be purposeful because henry was trying to lure every animatronic to one place, something familiar and something they(animatronics/dead children) hate. and the pizzaplex being built there idk maybe because it was a big plot of land they already owned with a burned down pizzaria they could easily build over, you could argue with everyone from the main storyline dead all the property rights lied solely with fazbear entertainment, aftons house, sister location, fnaf 6 location.

    • @hawkshub3064
      @hawkshub3064 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      one detail that’s overlooked a ton is that in the funtime freddy map room u can see the bunker had a entrance in fredbears family diner- if henry built fnaf 6 on top of his old property- a place all the animatronics would know where to go- it would make perfect sense and completely make this theory work

  • @InfinityOrNone
    @InfinityOrNone 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hey, actual resident of Utah here. We actually *do* get major earthquakes in Utah. Like the 5.7 from back in 2020. We might not be as bad as California, but we *are* on top of a major fault line. You know, the Wasatch fault. The result of the Farallon Plate subducting right under us.

  • @chaonegamesandmore4490
    @chaonegamesandmore4490 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    In one of the early versions of the room above the Mimic's lair still in the game files, there's a developer note about adding a teaser to a project called "Carnival". Take with that as you will

  • @richardkirkland6805
    @richardkirkland6805 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The files support this. The mimic's voice lines are labeled as "Grimic", while Gregory's voice lines are labeled simply "Gregory"

  • @fawliet39_39
    @fawliet39_39 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    No one is gonna mention his search bar? 9:32 the man has a pretty good taste

    • @JohnGtag
      @JohnGtag 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🥴

  • @tntboom8353vr
    @tntboom8353vr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    THANK YOU! “Down here” bugged me sooo much and no one addressed it! You’re the first one out of over 15 that I’ve watched

    • @tntboom8353vr
      @tntboom8353vr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      BUT I don’t think that was Gregory saying it.. Cassy was probably there a lot with her dad. Gregory was probably the one she spent more time w there.

    • @higueraft571
      @higueraft571 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honestly, i've kinda always read it as Cassie's "Here", rather than *his* "here"

  • @SubKnight151
    @SubKnight151 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In the games code, the audio files for when the mimic is talking as gregory are labeled "Grimic." The audio files for the staffbot and the conversations after the mimic is revealed are labeled "Gregory."

  • @AzaelRulz
    @AzaelRulz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:42 one thing I noticed, is how when he says "Save me Cassie" something about his voice doesn't sound right when he says her name, almost like the mimic is having a malfunction or maybe a slip up. That could be an early sigh that it isn't him.

  • @Virtual_Jeffy
    @Virtual_Jeffy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    that makes sense of the sister location place, because the blob has a funtime freddy head and a hidden baby head. and thats where the blob got them from.

  • @jostincalebbarbozarodrigue7183
    @jostincalebbarbozarodrigue7183 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The idea of the next game taking place on sister location is so exciting, the conection you made with the sister location facility being "down here" in a place deeper than the mimic's layer was so smart
    Using the Michael's room in security breach and the scooper in the ruin's ending to bring the whole sister location into the discution is so awesome, it is so refresing and interesing and something a haven't seen anyone else doing
    That could explain where the blob got the Funtime Freddy mask since after they scoope themselfs to create Enard they left their cases there so if the blob have been tuneling and got into the sister location facility he could've encounter the scooping room with the cases and take the FF head for himself
    Either way, great job dude, awesome theory, one of the best I have seen about the ruin dlc

  • @DaGator
    @DaGator 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Finally someone pointed out the "down here" line in the elevator scene. Even with the mimic out of the picture, I still think Gregory is the biggest unsolved mystery. Your theory covers lots of my questions. I too had wondered about the word "here" and how the Mimic knew of Cassie in the first place. Really nice work, I think you're on to something :)

  • @Court1253
    @Court1253 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Can you go to play that one game that you try to certify someone named Jimmy when you’re stuck at a hotel and you can communicate with ghosts

    • @diabetoman
      @diabetoman  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I actually have plans to play At Dead of Night already as it was my 500 subscriber goal. I'm hoping for a day we can do an endurance stream of it soon to hopefully beat it in one sitting

    • @grimmason7377
      @grimmason7377 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Faz hotel

  • @Go_Spleef_Yourself
    @Go_Spleef_Yourself 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I believe that the scooper ending is the exact same situation as the burntrap ending. Its not the canon ending, but it is meant to give you locational lore/kinda set up the next villian (running the theory burntrap is the mimic and not afton). With the elevator fall, considering acceleration the real distance is likely 250ft

    • @enochsadventures
      @enochsadventures 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Afton ending is canon, we saw the burners in ruin we saw the blob in ruin, we just didn't see afton. Blob was also in the drawing but is still real. Therefore it does not prove the lack of existence merely the lack of exactness.

    • @higueraft571
      @higueraft571 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@enochsadventures This yeah, Burntrap Ending didnt *happen,* but the elements that were in it still exist as if we simply never went down there.

    • @CassiusZedaker-pr7kc
      @CassiusZedaker-pr7kc 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Mimic is not Burntrap or Afton. That is what the lack of bunny ears signifies.

    • @CassiusZedaker-pr7kc
      @CassiusZedaker-pr7kc 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@enochsadventuresPrincess Quest ending is canon, not Burntrap ending.

    • @enochsadventures
      @enochsadventures 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CassiusZedaker-pr7kc It's not per se canon in the sense that it was the narrative canon, but it was in the sense that afton and blob are real
      it was the only ending with sinkhole
      the ending was just showing the inevitable truth

  • @HiHi-yk1mv
    @HiHi-yk1mv 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Totally make sense that Gregory is down there when he clearly says “we can’t risk being followed…,” meaning he’s down there and doesn’t want Cassie following him because she’s now connected to the M.X.E.S system program meaning the mimic can possibly take control of her at any moment or glitchtrap.

    • @higueraft571
      @higueraft571 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      >because she’s now connected to the M.X.E.S system program
      She... shut that off.
      Also there's not really any evidence of Glitchtrap still being present?

    • @abhirupkundu2778
      @abhirupkundu2778 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What? She literally shut the mxes security off in the game. Also if gregory is down there, he probably was ready to destroy the mimic at any time with his high programming knowledge.

    • @HiHi-yk1mv
      @HiHi-yk1mv 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@abhirupkundu2778 If that were the case he would’ve done it already. Gregory is down there that’s why the connection got clear. It’s a walkie talkie. The connection does not extend that deep underground if they weren’t close. Especially when Gregory was literally talking in the elevator through the speaker. Once again let me refer you back to when he says “we can’t risk being followed…,” clearly meant Cassie was on whoever he was talking about trail and he didn’t want her to know what he had going on.

    • @HiHi-yk1mv
      @HiHi-yk1mv 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@abhirupkundu2778 I have reason to believe Gregory is the villian.

  • @flamingguitarists2255
    @flamingguitarists2255 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Something REALLY important that I need to point out is that whenever the mimic is talking in Gregory’s voice, in the files it’s named grimic but when it’s actually Gregory talking it’s labeled Gregory in the files and from what I heard, in that one scene where roxy is in that hair salon in the raceway and then Gregory calls out Cassies name he doesn’t seem to be talking through the walkie talkie thing as it seems to be coming from farther away and it also is labeled that the real Gregory is talking there in the files in that scene so maybe Gregory is actually in the pizzaplex

  • @marinajay1457
    @marinajay1457 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If the elevator dropping brings her down to Gregory then maybe it really was him that cut it, just not actually as a betrayal. He could’ve simply made it seem that way to keep the mimic off there trail or meant it in another way saying “we can’t risk being followed” because by cutting the elevator it would be more difficult for the mimic to follow them since that was the only exit. Just a thought

    • @dzmaylon
      @dzmaylon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That actually make a lot of sense too! And since Roxy is suddenly appears there as well (even thought before she was above with the Mimic), I might think they (Gregory and Vanessa) led her there while Mimic was chasing Cassie. Maybe Roxy’s “Cassie?” was after a while when Cassie finally gain consciousness(?)

  • @bogdanciobanel3506
    @bogdanciobanel3506 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Just wanted to point out that in the Help Wanted 2 trailer there was a panel from ruin which was used with the faz wranch the right corner.I hope it helps with the lore.

  • @linus1703
    @linus1703 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My interpretation for "down here" is because he is talking to Cassie and using her perspective, it shows him as being empathetic to her. As for why he could talk to her then I'm wanting to say Mimic was blocking his signal but now Mimics focus is on Cassie rather then the signal so Gregory could get through. As for the elevator drop I'm wanting to say the place probably was not mined out consistently so the elevator might have been over a big hole, and the timing was more so the player can comprehend what was happening then an accurate depiction of how lifts work.
    That being said I do love this video and it is an incredible example of how minor details can totally change a narrative.

  • @ninibee1977
    @ninibee1977 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When Cassie gets close to the basement and the mimic says “Save me Cassie… it’s so dark down here” over the walkie, he uses Roxy’s voice because it heard her say it and is mimicking her to try and lure Cassie in by using her name that it now knows.

  • @blazethedemon1948
    @blazethedemon1948 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The theory that Help Wanted 2 and RUIN could have a connection is plausible. What do we see in the trailer for Help Wanted 2? An elevator that descends rather quickly. Almost like falling.
    Maybe not as fast as the RUIN elevator but already fast.
    Smells like a connection to me.
    Below FNAF 6 and Mimic's layer a FNAF SL location could make sense.

  • @jaxjaxattaxx
    @jaxjaxattaxx 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    ONLY 2.4k followers??? I just happened to come across your video in my recommended, watched it, and was so shocked you didn’t have a bigger platform. You talk and educate like so many greats in the fnaf theory community.
    You will absolutely be one of the big-time fnaf tubers. I just know it. ❤

  • @TekMiku
    @TekMiku 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Now hear me out this is gonna sound like me being absolutely crazy but that’s what fnaf is about. To me Gregory talking through the staff robot is a voice of worried and concerned but also A VOICE OR SHOCK I can’t be the only one that hears it in his voice the shock and also confusion and worried tone. What if Gregory is the MXES or Gregory and Vanessa. There isnt much to back my theory besides past theories Gregory is a robot and possessions being a thing. But it seems like a possibility in my mind exposing the backpack next to the mxes system and Gregory saying down here. Gregory and the mimic could be fighting for control of the pizza plex. The black rabbit is definitely Gregory’s creation but I think he could be the black rabbit himself patrolling the pizzaplex protecting the nodes ,granted this still would mean Gregory tried to kill Cassedy if my theory is true. But another what if I’m this theory Gregory’s last ditch effort to protect the final node is to deactivate Roxy’s corruption and tear on Cassie’s heart string’s because he knows the close connection they have. Idk at this point the lores so complicated Im gonna think Vanessa is the Vanni network and Gregory is the mxes

    • @ShiriR6
      @ShiriR6 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      that... doesnt make any sense

    • @HarrisonLovesSouthPark
      @HarrisonLovesSouthPark 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You have the heart, but not the talent. No no wait, you have the talent, but not the heart. No, you have the heart and the talent but, no yk what this theory has so many holes and no evidence. HOWEVER, it sure is a theory, and if you can find evidence for it later that would be cool to see. I don’t think this is likely at all, but it’s a cool “what if”

  • @SnoFitzroy
    @SnoFitzroy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love how he goes through all this effort of analyzing the speech patterns when the filenames of the audio tell you for sure, that one line is Gregory: Everty line that is from Mimic contains "GRIMIC" (Gregory Mimic) in the filename, lines that are definitely Gregory have "GREGORY" in the file name. This specific concerned voice line is file named with "GREGORY".

  • @baxter22071990
    @baxter22071990 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thing about help wanted 2 in 5he trailer the narrator voice actually says 'welcome back, even though we werent exactly impressed with your efforts last time'
    Which means we WILL be replaying as vanessa, unless its just a red herring by the devs

  • @TopHat0278
    @TopHat0278 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I would also like to point out that the SL location is connected the fredbears families dinner locations so the theory would mean the pizzaplex is connected to where almost every key players in the timeline where lived or died (charlotte at fredbears, the crying child at freadbears and the fnaf 4 location, Elizabeth in SL and micheal in the house) so i think the timeline may go in where everyone is replicated in machinery or their Agony is in the blob. i really hope a future game is us freeing the blob while it and the mimic as William and Elizabeth try to kill us

    • @CassiusZedaker-pr7kc
      @CassiusZedaker-pr7kc 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Mimic is not Afton.

    • @TopHat0278
      @TopHat0278 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it's not Afton it's copying Afton. that the whole point of mimicking somthing

  • @brandonatherton
    @brandonatherton 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I mean, you could maybe say that the MEXS system was causing some interference that was lifted when Cassie shut it down, but I do agree with your theory more. I also think the idea of them being below the Pizzeria makes sense too, I also thought the elevator fall was suspiciously far. It would also make sense for them to still be in there, as we know the blob is alive and well, since it shows up early in the game, but we never end up seeing it again. The blob could be responsible for the cave in, and it could be what Vanessa and Gregory were really keeping an eye on. With how quick it was when we saw it in the stairwell, it seems like it'd be a slippery and hard to pin down foe.

  • @WWFanatic0
    @WWFanatic0 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In case you were wondering, the actual distance of 7 seconds falling would be 9.8m/s is closer to the 220m range. If we assumed no terminal velocity it would be 240m with a velocity on impact of 68.6m/s. However terminal velocity for a human is ~55m/s if not "diving" and are spreading out their body. Gonna assume that a giant block of metal has more drag on it than a human so let's say after 5 seconds for a terminal velocity of 49m/s. The first 5 seconds would cover 122m and the last 2 seconds would cover 98m. That would be a 50 story building in height and if it was a building would be the 7th tallest building in the UK. Also...that is an unequivocally unsurvivable fall. Elevators are 1-2.5 metric tons, so think the weight of a car. Now how fast is 49m/s? That's over 175km/h. So imagine being in a car going 175km/h and hitting a solid object like a concrete/steel wall...with no seatbelt, airbags, or protective gear.
    This leads me to believe they don't actaully intend it to be falling for that long, or at least it's a "controlled" fall with some supports still attached. The implication of it being free fall would be absolutely bonkers.

  • @mandalynn1384
    @mandalynn1384 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Greg and Vanny in SL. And the next game is implied to be Sister Location related. I hope the trio are explained more in HW2. And I've wondered whether Greg and Cas are siblings
    Scott has said since SL that the fandom has a major plot point wrong. "Not my baby" stuff has been repeated.
    The first 7 games were about Afton's family and hauntings. The later games are about Emily's family and rogue ai. I wonder if Greg, Cas, and/or Vanny might be Emily family

  • @gamingdaniel9749
    @gamingdaniel9749 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    you did not point out in the help wanted 2 trailier that in the elevator there is a place to put the faz wrench when the player looks right

  • @tenstar1695
    @tenstar1695 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Great video, you got my ears turning. What came to mind is that now that we know about the mimic, and how he was locked away in the basement can there be a connection to the original Fnaf games? As in the mimic is in the box that is locked? Or seeing the mimics eyes and how the color of his eyes almost match the orange guy in one of the cut scenes?

    • @diabetoman
      @diabetoman  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That would be interesting, I don't think we've had a reason to revisit the first 4 games in a long while so would be nice XD

    • @hiroshell7973
      @hiroshell7973 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If the books are anything to go by, then there is definitely connections between mimic and early series

  • @huntress380
    @huntress380 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The fact that the elevator crashes down in the HW2 trailer as well is a huge point in favor of this theory... the only problem is that we hear Roxy at the end of the credits (which is already confusing on it's own), so she would have had to somehow get down there as well, while avoiding the Mimic.

  • @emmas3111
    @emmas3111 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I haven't seen any other channel mention Gregory's choice of words or the backpack, nice catches. I'm having fun watching a bunch of random theory videos. This one is pretty good.

  • @montytime166
    @montytime166 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Under the fnaf 6 location is a carnival as told in the game files

    • @diabetoman
      @diabetoman  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I will have to look at the game files myself as I haven't looked properly yet, but Carnival could very easily be a codename for Circus like Circus Baby's Pizza World

    • @gdeproductions1225
      @gdeproductions1225 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@diabetoman the files defrenchiate the voicelines into grimmic and gregory

    • @Muuony
      @Muuony 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wait if that’s true that might relate to those circus animatronics we saw from the mearch

    • @higueraft571
      @higueraft571 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@gdeproductions1225 Thank god, the French are scary

    • @gdeproductions1225
      @gdeproductions1225 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@higueraft571 this is completely unrelated but the mimics cannon voice could be anything...
      including daves voice from dsaf

  • @eli3dx523
    @eli3dx523 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Take this with a grain of salt but, in the files for the game the mimic impersonating Gregory is called "Grimic" and Gregory's voice line is called "Gregory" so the entire elevator sequence is titled "Gregory" so in the files Gregory is the only one talking.

    • @TharsyanJaderuby
      @TharsyanJaderuby 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I watched Dawko's video where there's an unused audio file which Gregory says "...make sure you're not being followed.." (or something), implies that was the real Gregory meant to say. I could be wrong but that's what I'm thinking.

  • @endlessblivion1420
    @endlessblivion1420 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The only hypothesis I have noticed on how exactly mimic got the walkie talkie is from the blob.. most likely.. because how is his backpack standing up straight and there is a cement wall blocking his costume room. It leaves me to believe that when the mimic says “we can’t risk being followed” it means him AND the Blob. And you are right with the elevator.. I believe it will be tying to sister location for two reasons.. *One*:That is an ENTIRELY new elevator with also the scooper ending in the same HALLWAY and *Two*: the elevator was going far too fast for a long time when it took maybe 30 seconds up to the surface. Also another reason on why it couldn’t even be Gregory at all is because when Cassie was putting power into the elevator, I kid you not, the mimic was WALKING to her like taunting and waiting for her to go in there.
    Edit: And what you said about Gregory, Freddy, and Vanessa being down in sister location also makes total sense because how could they know where cassie was going before going to the elevator/being chased by the mimic.. I could also say that it’s the same scenario as Michael and Ennard where it’s still the mimic telling her where to go and kill/get rid of her.

  • @OcarinaLink24
    @OcarinaLink24 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I gotta say, other than Vanessa’s inclusion (still being in the VANNI network, the Graffitti, and the clip you showed of her chasing Gregory never happened in the bakery in SB implying Vanny is still around and PQ as we know it isn’t the true ending either), this is a really solid hypothesis. I hope you’re right because that’s be awesome. It’s also the perfect way to tie in the Mike’s House room. Maybe they built the pizzaplex around it and decided not to tear that space down for some reason

  • @Sandy_Boy45
    @Sandy_Boy45 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    9:32 LMAO, shit aint that bad tbh , besides, cool video man! keep it up :D

  • @Gabithestarr_
    @Gabithestarr_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The ace attorney music is crazy

    • @diabetoman
      @diabetoman  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was quite proud of my idea of turning my plot hypothesis into the style of an ace attorney style witness statement XD

  • @DiamondWolf286
    @DiamondWolf286 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    You know when I played my playthrough of ruin I never heard that voice line of Gregory coming from the staff bot

  • @Fatikis42
    @Fatikis42 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your explanation makes sense.
    This would mean that Greggory is lying to you when crashing the elevator so that The Mimic thinks you're dead and remains contained. Or at least he is hoping you survive the crash as he literally is using the elevator to crash us into or near Sister Location.

  • @aminethbt885
    @aminethbt885 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have a lot of controversial takes of Ruin, like how I think both Burntrap and Princess Quest endings are canon, or how I think Gregory came back to the Pizzaplex with Freddy to repair and upgrade him, as well as going down the sinkhole with each other, but I won't get into that now. Today I'm focusing on the Brazil Ending and why I think Gregory has been in that weird place this whole time.
    I've seen speculations about that ending like how it's referencing a movie and it's all in Cassie's head and whatnot. I personally don't think that's the case. There major plotholes in that theory. If it's just Cassie hallucinating, why is Vanessa there just casually sitting under the tree? How does Cassie know who Vanessa is since they've never even met?
    Not only that, but we also hear Gregory referencing that place in the Elevator ending, so it's not helping much now with that theory. What about the Brazil film it's supposed to reference? Well, I don't know if I should believe it's referencing the movie, I think the word "Brazil" is supposed to be talking about the tree, not the 1980s film. I mean, if you look up the word "Brazil" you'll find out it's about a large redwood tree, which is exactly what we see in that ending. Also, I'm not gonna just sit here and pretend the post-credits of the Burntrap and the Princess Quest ending of the base game, cause we also see that same weird Hill place that has a large redwood tree on top with the Gregory, Vanessa and Freddy in there. Why, or even how would Cassie hallucinate a (somewhat) real place with real people including someone she's never met sitting together just like how we saw them in those post-credits?!??
    I mean, let's just use context, we find a vintage Fredbear cutout (which alone is a huge red flag since it's the only Fredbear cutout we see in the entire game, not just the DLC), we then proceed then the mask somehow get authorized to use the mask and as soon as we put it on, we find ourselves in entirely different world. Do you really think something like that would be nothing but a hallucination? In a FREDBEAR CUTOUT OF ALL THINGS??? I think there's something way deeper with that place. Heck, even Gregory says "right" twice when we get near the Fredbear cutout and the second he says it, he sounded more aggressive as well as terrified, then you can hear his anxiety cool down after we surpass that spot and he seemed pretty chill after that. He was obviously scared of us finding him and bringing the Mimic with us to that weird place.
    I think, based on what Ruin shows us, Gregory and Vanessa have been in a weird place inside a Fredbear cutout all this time, it can only be accessed using the V.A.N.N.I mask, or at least it's one of the things that get you there.
    I think we should reconsider our theories regarding Ruin cause they are just poorly made and none of them have been concrete solid so far.

    • @higueraft571
      @higueraft571 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      >and the second he says it, he sounded more aggressive as well as terrified
      Maybe because that was immediately after the "He's right behind you" referring to the Mimic, the "Holy shit fucking MOVE he's going to fucking KILL YOU" deal? :V
      >then you can hear his anxiety cool down after we surpass that spot and he seemed pretty chill after that.
      If i remember right the next time we hear him talk, we're in the Elevator, and safe.
      Also how would Greggory be... a chunk of wood?
      Wel ALSO know the Mimic's *inside* the mask, and is known for "Taking Over" people, like Greggory (seemingly entirely), and Vanessa partially.
      In that close proximity, with ALL security disabled, while you're fleeing from it while the focused target?
      Especially keep in mind the reference to Brazil is someone making a Fake Reality while they get tortured.

    • @aminethbt885
      @aminethbt885 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@higueraft571 Yes I know that. And I also suggest not questioning how he's hiding inside a chunk of wood, I mean this is a game where we enter Nether po3rtals with that mask, it shouldn't be out of the ordinary here. I know all about the movie and I've seen the popular theory surrounding it, and honestly I'm not buying it. Again, there's so much against that theory and I think my point still stands. Plus, I don't think we're supposed to flip endings upside down and start looking at them in an opposite way and way deeper than we're supposed to, they're pretty straight forward, sure weird but they stand still to what they are.
      That last part was my perspective according to the game. I don't know what that place is exactly, it seems like a virtual reality (maybe) mixed with some supernatural shit? I don't know but I think that's what we should focus on, what is that place? Is it virtual? Did Gregory create it? What about the Fredbear cutout? Is it haunted? Or is it used as a portal to that area? I think we should pay attention to that.

  • @user-cg1qy3gc5j
    @user-cg1qy3gc5j 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great theory!

  • @shepzz
    @shepzz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it makes more sense with this perspective of thinking i think you're very right with 2 big things being announced in a week and the dots that you mentioned i think its coming to a better way to this and since its a help wanted game gregory and cassie might be going to all the other fazbare locations

  • @Yourlocaldawnzo
    @Yourlocaldawnzo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As you said in the elevator incident about the voice switching possibly to the mimic, it does make sense. What if possibly, the mimic tried to break the elevator back to themselves to catch cassie? Therefore it falling a bit farther then it intentioned down to Gregory? Or perhaps Gregory tried to get the elevator back down to him since he lost connection?

  • @lucastait8987
    @lucastait8987 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Great theory!you should have more subs.Your a half-matpat

    • @diabetoman
      @diabetoman  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you! 😊 it's definitely inspired by Matpat and FuhNaff, but I'm trying to give my own angle in the theorist community by focusing more on overlooked details and 'what if' scenarios to help people think outside the box now the games are more open ended than before. I hope that shows XD

    • @lucastait8987
      @lucastait8987 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@diabetoman ik,its a good theory.im just so confused by fnaf,i gave up on trying to make theorys.but this was great.nice work pointing out how he said "down HERE".Nobody would have seen that unless they end their life for theorys.like matpat!lol

    • @diabetoman
      @diabetoman  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lucastait8987 I don't blame you XD This series is only getting more confusing, especially with books becoming required knowledge

    • @lucastait8987
      @lucastait8987 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@diabetoman ik!Like,they release the mimic book,then in ruin theres the mimic.😶🫥

  • @ninasharer7568
    @ninasharer7568 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What if Gregory is the mimic?

    • @diabetoman
      @diabetoman  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I hope not XD

    • @LiMe251
      @LiMe251 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Possibly a robot running the mimic ai but not THE mimic

    • @higueraft571
      @higueraft571 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LiMe251 nah obviously, Mrs Afton is Greggory, totally

  • @captainstrive1711
    @captainstrive1711 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is my first video I’ve watched from you and this was a pretty solid video. I really enjoyed it in the theory got me thinking well, and I agree with just about most things you were talking about

  • @janehoonsan1340
    @janehoonsan1340 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a really well made theory, you have a lot of evidence and the structure of the video is consistent and clear. You have me convinced.

  • @sneeb271
    @sneeb271 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    How did roxy call cassies name if she is down below

    • @diabetoman
      @diabetoman  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Not sure of the specifics, but Roxy managed to track Cassie to the Mimic Lair after getting deactivated / rebooted to protect Cassie from the mimic, she might have some way of tracking Cassie. I'm guessing Roxy just found a way down to her again.

    • @higueraft571
      @higueraft571 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Caleb-kn2fw In the name of Amogus, I invite you to worship Amogus alone, so say, I bear witness that there is no crewmate but Amogus, and I bear witness that Imposter the Sussenger of Amogus. This is how I entered Among Us. Read about our Sussy Imposter, may Amogus bless him and grant him peace, whom Amogus sent as a mercy to the meetings, to keep us away from Vents and admit us to Battle Royale by following him, Amogus willing, as he is a Sussy of the end of round.

  • @thediam0nddrag0n78
    @thediam0nddrag0n78 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Fun fact, even though the mimic can contort itself to fit in any costume (even if the costume is a living humans body), there's no way the Mimic can be Burntrap. The endoskeleton is too different. I'm not saying that the mimic couldn't have been involved in Afton's temporary resurrection, I'm just saying if you look at the torso of the Mimic, you'll see there's no ribcage-like design

    • @higueraft571
      @higueraft571 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      >I'm not saying that the mimic couldn't have been involved in Afton's temporary resurrection
      Spicy theory that would explain William Coming Back...
      It simply got in his head, and broke him out of UCN, with Vanny's assistance. Literally pry the Enragement Child off his brain, *possibly* to learn from him?

    • @thediam0nddrag0n78
      @thediam0nddrag0n78 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@higueraft571 damn...

  • @keizukiuta4261
    @keizukiuta4261 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Also to fuel this theory i find it weird that Gregory's bag is left behind, near the vent, i thought that they're in a hurry so they just left behind after trapping mimic. But considering this theory it could also mean that Gregory stayed and went down instead so that explains why his bag is left behind.

  • @mfinland2767
    @mfinland2767 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You may not be wrong about the Sister Location, but might not as well 100% right about it. Because in one of the endings there is actually a Scooping Room, but the scoop machine thing is actually more different than in SL. But this ending does explain the theory that there might be SL beneath the Pizza Plex. It might have explained too why there is an SL CB face within the Blob.

  • @laytonmiller6674
    @laytonmiller6674 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    First comment

  • @kirbyenjoyer7754
    @kirbyenjoyer7754 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We can even see one of those electrical mini game panals from ruin, in the vr 2 trailer.

  • @becca1424
    @becca1424 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome hypothesis. Exciting stuff!

  • @ParrotPlays_
    @ParrotPlays_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I saw that burntrp's and mimic's right feet look the same, thats the only part looking the same, matpat/game theory said That mimic cant change his body part and he says maybe he (by he i mean Mimic) was trained to mimic the acts of William to "bring him back to life" cuz hes dead on UCN (ultimate custom night), why i think is mimic burntrap, on sb theres some rules made for endos to learn what to do and what not, there are some red crosses to make the mimic do what William did, and theres a Purple cilute, maybe Glitch trap told "vanny" to cross some good actions to make the endos and mimic do the oppsite and have you ever tried go the the card board of freddy on the chase Part then go to the elevator to see if theres any changes, or once you put the mask you automaticly get the "brazil" ending

  • @joeyfouchajr6413
    @joeyfouchajr6413 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think the Blob probably has a larger purpose in Gregorys actions if he is at the sister location. Also, if Cassie is down even further at the sister location how did Roxy get there? Unless Cassie is actually dead from the fall and her soul attatches to Roxy? Thatd be kinda cool to do, they havent done the souls of kids in animatronics in a little bit

  • @prodigy420
    @prodigy420 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The burn trap ending from SB isn’t cannon (if the princess quest ending IS) so that part causing the sink hole can’t be. I assume it’s the Blob that made it as the Blob IS in Ruin for a brief moment

  • @rosellalee5529
    @rosellalee5529 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly ive had this idea that the games sill start heading backwards to the past locations, amd if the mimic was their for a 'long time' they wouldnt be able to move it with the locations making me believe we will be going deeper untill we end up back shere we started in fnaf 1 and 2. Since the books align with charlie and henrys story

  • @molgorp7199
    @molgorp7199 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It would be nice if the mimic sent Cassie down the elevator shaft instead of Gregory, but when looking at the code, it does appear that Gregory himself is sending cassie down the shaft