@roadreg1820 Alot of people don't like the Eco Mode so I've read but if used properly with the coasting feature and driving like Miss Daisy 😂 I've seen over 50mpg 😁😉👌
@@roadreg1820 Yes my A35 use to get 25.1 mpg and my C63 4.0L not the 6.2L gets about 23.2mpg for city driving. But the only difference is, if you wanted to have fun in the A35 mpg would drop to about 15/16mpg and on the C63 it drops to 7/8mpg 😭😭
@@roadreg1820 I would have loved 40mpg out of it the facts were 30mpg still not bad for a 3 ltr .I know 4 people that have sold with petrol being a big issue
@@andrewjohnston2901 you can get 40 out of it on a long drive, but it’s not built for economy. In reality you won’t see 40 out of it unless you are doing long cruises on motorways etc. that’s where Diesels come into their own. This video was a comparison between the 140 and Golf R, and as the video shows - there is a small difference. That difference is still significant though, and really highlights the differences between a 2.0 and 3.0 etc.
@@roadreg1820 agreed even on my 20 mile trip doing 65 mph all seemed a bit pointless. Put your foot down and that b58 got you on first name terms at the petrol station
You should do a few drags and rolls with these two, I see a lot of people online say the r wins from the dig but I've seen the m140 match the r in the dry even from a standstill then obviously has the advantage in rolling, be good to see whether it still pulls on the r when on a wet track whilst rolling but also whether it can keep up with the r from launch in dry, probably be hard to film though because you'd have to do it over multiple days of different weather 😂
The Golf will always be quicker in went and greasy conditions from a standstill. And yeah you’re not wrong. With the right tyres, and if you don’t use LC, the 140i can launch pretty hard for a RWD car. No match for the Golf’s AWD system tho.
@@roadreg1820 be good to see at what point the m140 overtakes the golf though, I'd imagine over half mile the 140 would take it in every condition bar heavy rain
@@jb123564 I mean the M140i has more power, so it will be faster from a roll. But as for how much, I’m not sure. I guess over 80 it will start pulling. The Golf r is not that much slower tbh.
@@roadreg1820 that's true, the r is very capable, I came from a cupra 290 and that was quick however after driving the golf and the 140 the mlite feels much quicker than both in gear could be the torque though
I dont have either of them but I do have a Stage 1 Cupra 300 which is the same engine as in the golf. 6 speed dsg here and in eco mode I can achieve 42mpg at motorway speeds. Around 38-39 in comfort mode.
Would there be a big difference if you used the Mk.7 Golf R with a 6-speed DSG box? Without the overdrive 7th gear from the Mk. 7.5, I drive around 3k rpm in 6th gear when doing 130 km/h (roughly 80mp/h).
It would probably end up being exactly the same as the M140i on a similar distance, however on long cruising trips, it won’t get near the economy of the M140i (that’s long distance trips cruising on the motorway).
This is a comparison between the VW golf R and M140i. Lewis’s Golf R is the estate version, so it’s heavier. I added a passenger to stop people complaining that it wasn’t fair due to the Golf R hatch (not estate) being lighter. I explained this in the video.
@@LewisAllam there was about 1/2 difference from what I can remember. Without spoiling it for others that haven’t seen the video in full, I guess just wait for the end of the video where we reveal who wins the challenge.
@@andrewjohnston2901 that’s decent mate, nice car too the TCR. my combined MPG is 31mpg. Then my R is gunna be much heavier than yours, anything with 300bhp or more that does 30mpg I think is decent.
Highway no question m140 is better. i've seen 5.5L/100 over more than 100km (in 100 zone). Can regularly get under 6L/100 which ive struggled with in any of the VW 2L ive had previously. The town component and driving styles can actually make a big difference. I know others cant get the same efficiency as me on highway. That's measured, not estimated or trip computer
I would agree, and if we had a longer section of motorway.. the result would have been different for sure. I tried to a crate a route that was realistic and would not favour the M140i because I wanted to see if it could even get close to the Golf R’s economy.
@@roadreg1820 You did a great job and it looks like the route you selected reflects real world. I'm about 10.5L/100 for mostly town driving. I know Golf R equiv is roughly 9.5-10 same driving
@@roadreg1820 My thought was, if you drove the 140 more economically you’d get a better result. Lifting off the throttle earlier and rolling into junctions saves lots of fuel!
I own a M140i, its good on fuel but it's built for power. Bigger engine displacement and generally more powerful so golf is better in real world... BUT the M140i is the better car
I think they’re both great, just depends on your personal preference! But yeah, the M140i is a power house for sure. I love the silky strait-6. The last of its kind tbh!
Nice 👌 Love the 3 door lines. Also a bit of a hark back to old school hot hatches where they mostly only came in 3 door. I rearly have people in the back too.
The slightly worse MPG on the M140i is more than made up for by the sound it makes.
🫡
I’ve had both an S3 S tronic and M140i auto and the M140i is so much more economical at 70 mph! The gear ratio in 8th is magic.
I think what this proves Reg is that you wasn't driving in Eco Mode 🤔😂
@@deanoearly8817 Just normal ‘Comfort Mode’ 🤩
@roadreg1820 Alot of people don't like the Eco Mode so I've read but if used properly with the coasting feature and driving like Miss Daisy 😂 I've seen over 50mpg 😁😉👌
Reg your a natural in front of the camera
You always put a grin on my face lol
Used to enjoy when you’d nip in on forensics detailing
Keep it up bud
Thanks Jon. Really appreciate that!
Great video. Good information, thanks
I had an A35 and a C63s. The A35 was more fuel efficient by 2mpg. Was interesting to compare the 2
Wow I’m surprised. The C63s is a V8 Bi-Turbo?
@@roadreg1820 Yes my A35 use to get 25.1 mpg and my C63 4.0L not the 6.2L gets about 23.2mpg for city driving.
But the only difference is, if you wanted to have fun in the A35 mpg would drop to about 15/16mpg and on the C63 it drops to 7/8mpg 😭😭
@@dbagdi1998 I mean, neither of those figures are good numbers, fuel economy wise. I’m shocked at the A35’s average! What do you have now?
The fuel gauge in my old 140 used to drop quicker than phillip Schofield's popularity 😬 if you want both get a gti 😉
Yours must have been broken then :)
😂
@@roadreg1820 I would have loved 40mpg out of it the facts were 30mpg still not bad for a 3 ltr .I know 4 people that have sold with petrol being a big issue
@@andrewjohnston2901 you can get 40 out of it on a long drive, but it’s not built for economy. In reality you won’t see 40 out of it unless you are doing long cruises on motorways etc. that’s where Diesels come into their own. This video was a comparison between the 140 and Golf R, and as the video shows - there is a small difference. That difference is still significant though, and really highlights the differences between a 2.0 and 3.0 etc.
@@roadreg1820 agreed even on my 20 mile trip doing 65 mph all seemed a bit pointless. Put your foot down and that b58 got you on first name terms at the petrol station
You should do a few drags and rolls with these two, I see a lot of people online say the r wins from the dig but I've seen the m140 match the r in the dry even from a standstill then obviously has the advantage in rolling, be good to see whether it still pulls on the r when on a wet track whilst rolling but also whether it can keep up with the r from launch in dry, probably be hard to film though because you'd have to do it over multiple days of different weather 😂
The Golf will always be quicker in went and greasy conditions from a standstill. And yeah you’re not wrong. With the right tyres, and if you don’t use LC, the 140i can launch pretty hard for a RWD car. No match for the Golf’s AWD system tho.
@@roadreg1820 be good to see at what point the m140 overtakes the golf though, I'd imagine over half mile the 140 would take it in every condition bar heavy rain
@@jb123564 I mean the M140i has more power, so it will be faster from a roll. But as for how much, I’m not sure. I guess over 80 it will start pulling. The Golf r is not that much slower tbh.
@@roadreg1820 that's true, the r is very capable, I came from a cupra 290 and that was quick however after driving the golf and the 140 the mlite feels much quicker than both in gear could be the torque though
He did with Hampshire photography with his R
I dont have either of them but I do have a Stage 1 Cupra 300 which is the same engine as in the golf. 6 speed dsg here and in eco mode I can achieve 42mpg at motorway speeds. Around 38-39 in comfort mode.
Great review
Would there be a big difference if you used the Mk.7 Golf R with a 6-speed DSG box? Without the overdrive 7th gear from the Mk. 7.5, I drive around 3k rpm in 6th gear when doing 130 km/h (roughly 80mp/h).
It would probably end up being exactly the same as the M140i on a similar distance, however on long cruising trips, it won’t get near the economy of the M140i (that’s long distance trips cruising on the motorway).
@@roadreg1820 this information is simply not found on the internet. Awesome, thanks for your reply. You got yourself a new sub. Keep it up!
@@dazom Really appreciate that Jeff!
I've got a manual stage 2 M240i and can still get 40mpg with only 6 gears!
Nice!! So can I on a long journey, sitting on the motorway. 😁
@@roadreg1820 My M140i last month, on a B road run from Lincs to Yorks and back (about 75 miles each way), averaged 42.2 mpg (and mines 455bhp/634nm).
Did I miss the actual overall M.P G..? Of the two ?
They were very close. I can’t remember if I said it at the end or not? But the difference was a few MPG, if I’m not mistaken!
Are you comparing or fuel economy why add a passenger when the car does not come with one
This is a comparison between the VW golf R and M140i. Lewis’s Golf R is the estate version, so it’s heavier. I added a passenger to stop people complaining that it wasn’t fair due to the Golf R hatch (not estate) being lighter. I explained this in the video.
Im sure reg mentioned why he has a passenger in his bmw 👍
So what was the end mpg values?
From memory there was 2-3 MPG in them, the R was circa 33mpg with the M140 being circa 30ish. We shot this video ages ago.
@@LewisAllam there was about 1/2 difference from what I can remember. Without spoiling it for others that haven’t seen the video in full, I guess just wait for the end of the video where we reveal who wins the challenge.
@@LewisAllam I get around 38 from my golf gti tcr which has a golf r engine but bit lighter
@@andrewjohnston2901 that’s decent mate, nice car too the TCR. my combined MPG is 31mpg. Then my R is gunna be much heavier than yours, anything with 300bhp or more that does 30mpg I think is decent.
140i love
Highway no question m140 is better. i've seen 5.5L/100 over more than 100km (in 100 zone). Can regularly get under 6L/100 which ive struggled with in any of the VW 2L ive had previously. The town component and driving styles can actually make a big difference. I know others cant get the same efficiency as me on highway. That's measured, not estimated or trip computer
I would agree, and if we had a longer section of motorway.. the result would have been different for sure. I tried to a crate a route that was realistic and would not favour the M140i because I wanted to see if it could even get close to the Golf R’s economy.
@@roadreg1820 You did a great job and it looks like the route you selected reflects real world. I'm about 10.5L/100 for mostly town driving. I know Golf R equiv is roughly 9.5-10 same driving
you need to test it on th whole tank. *only watched the final minutes...
I don’t think it would make that much difference tbh.
Also, we have both been running the same fuel. So the difference would be negligible
The fact that the Bmw has a b58 engine with 6 cylinder and the difference was £1.10 which proves bmw is more efficient.
It’s a lot less than I thought it would be considering the things you mentioned.
👍
Now you both need to switch and drive each other’s cars.
That was actually the original plan on the way back.
@@roadreg1820 My thought was, if you drove the 140 more economically you’d get a better result. Lifting off the throttle earlier and rolling into junctions saves lots of fuel!
I own a M140i, its good on fuel but it's built for power. Bigger engine displacement and generally more powerful so golf is better in real world... BUT the M140i is the better car
I think they’re both great, just depends on your personal preference! But yeah, the M140i is a power house for sure. I love the silky strait-6. The last of its kind tbh!
i bought a golf r est 7.5 in white it is a superb vehicle WHY DO YOU WANT A THREE DOOR CAR lol
Nice 👌 Love the 3 door lines. Also a bit of a hark back to old school hot hatches where they mostly only came in 3 door. I rearly have people in the back too.
@@roadreg1820 very true but its only a matter of taste look at the golf r est 7.5 version it far exceeds the 7 and has space for the kids dog etc lol.
@@aceace5457 I don’t understand what point you are making ?
@@roadreg1820 means buy a estate not a three door car lol.😁
@@aceace5457 if I wanted an estate I’d have one, plus I would probably go for a 340i.