Really fun down to earth video, you have a new subscriber 😃 2 great cars. I have a red Clubsport 40 and the special edition GTI's are very enjoyable cars.
Good comparison. Would you take a proper track-like hothatch that’s light and nimble with some decent power, but FWD, or a higher powered hothatch that isn’t as serious, but has RWD??? As a guy who owns a MK7 GTI 6spd, is FBO, IS38, custom tuned, WMI, all the suspension goodies, etc., and much faster than a stock TCR, unfortunately, I probably would still choose to go the RWD route. RWD is just funner, especially when modded correctly.
@@Erwinbonkington1 Errr no, the M2 is on another level for sound, handling, cornering, ride, and chassis dynamics. My M140i was tuned to 455bhp/634nm, so it was pretty quick (in a straight line), but pretty wobbly around the corners, and seeing as any muppet can boot it in a straight line, but cornering requires skill, I have 100% upgraded. Maybe when you have owned both, you might understand son.
@@Erwinbonkington1 I doubt you are older, judging by the childish amount of smilies. Even if you were, you are obviously mentally very childish. 1) I'm 55 years old. 2) I could have bought an M2C, but for the budget I had, they were all higher mileage and multiple owners, by a long way, than my 28k, 1 owner from new, OG M2 I bought. 3) The M2C has 40bhp more, but weighs 55Kg heavier, and if you had the experience of actually owning one, and an OG, you would know there is almost no difference in performance, due to the almost identical power-to-weight ratio. Calling my OG M2 slow is just a pathetic trolling attempt. It is still faster to 60 than my 455bhp M140i (although the M140i was much quicker once on a roll). This is due to the much better traction of the M2, from it's wider tyres, and LSD. Yes I could have spent the difference in cost, by modifying my M140i more, but it would still have just been an M140i. You are an M140i fanboy (and a childish one at that), so until you have owned both, like I have, your opinion means absolutely nothing SON.
In a straight line which is the quickest.. I would say definitely the BMW M140. As anyone had a race in a straight line which involve these two cars. Before you say that TCR is better on the bends.. I just wanted to know how is the quickest to 60 and to 100 mph.. As I said M140 would win out right in my opinion that B58 engine is a Beast..
hmm out of the two, I pick the GTI TCR just more of a track build while the m140i is a one series with a b58 lump in it without any changes to a normal one series
@@kiritokun1791 The M140i is a completely different kettle of fish. Especially with some subtle modifications. I think driving them back to back would the best way to choose between them. You say it’s ‘just a 1 series’, but the Golf GTi TCR is literally based on the normal Golf. They are the same in that respect, just done differently. The sub frame is the same as normal 1.6 mk7.5 GTI, just with different suspension, etc.
I've just sold my TCR for a Mk8 Golf R. Have to say the TCR is a great car, you need to have DCC which allows you to adjust the suspension. I hardly ever noticed any torque steer on mine so i'd say you need to get that looked at. There are some good roads around there but far to many average speed cameras now hey 😉 Good work chaps.
@@duncanh997 Very nice! I do like the Mk8 generation, however I’ve heard the interiors are a bit of a step down in quality compared to the MK7.5. I think if I spent time in the TCR I would be able to dial that tourqe steer out just by being smoother and being used to the car. Better tyres would help too. I think AJ has plans to get PS5’s on there soon.
@@andrewjohnston2901 exactly, it all depends on your driving style too. If you power hard out of a roundabout or junction, that will be where its noticed.
@MrVideeeooo The TCR is a great car and was a real wrench to sell it. If i compare the 2, you can feel that the TCR was lighter and was ever so slightly more nimble. Where the R changes things up is grip, pulling out of junctions, wet weather, roundabouts etc, having that playful rear diff really gives you a sharp front end. Both my TCR and R have DCC, so i can compare ride quality. I would say overall, from softest settings to the hardest settings, the R is a slightly softer smoother ride with the TCR always feeling slightly firmer. Now, reflecting on both cars. When i sold my TCR i had big doubts whether i was doing the right thing. The TCR looked amazing where as the R is more stealthy. However from the moment i took the R off the forecourt, i have not looked back or missed the TCR once and that speaks volumes.( I dont have any issues with the infotainment system either.)
In the more fun to drive question no one mentions the front and rear wheel drive aspect. I personally think rear wheel drive cars are more fun. But that's just me (an owner of a M140i 😛)
@@markjones-ej8tm The M140i has a bit more adjustment, if you have electric seats but I would say the TCR is probably more spacious, driving position wise.
Tcrs are amazing. Theyll hold their value well too
there great !
140i all day!
I think many underestimate the 140i! the only rear-wheel drive hot hacht with a 3-liter and mechanical gearbox available
Good fun reg well done to George for filming 👏👏
Really fun down to earth video, you have a new subscriber 😃 2 great cars. I have a red Clubsport 40 and the special edition GTI's are very enjoyable cars.
@@MrVideeeooo Glad you enjoyed the video !! Very nice 👌
clubsport 40 a holy grail golf i'd love to have your wingbacks in my TCR !
@@andrewjohnston2901 no rear seats tho!? Or is that the Nurburgring special edition?
@@roadreg1820 clubsport S has no back seats
@@roadreg1820 Yeah as AJ said the Clubsport S has no rear seats but the standard CS 40 has them, a great all round car like the TCR.
Good comparison. Would you take a proper track-like hothatch that’s light and nimble with some decent power, but FWD, or a higher powered hothatch that isn’t as serious, but has RWD???
As a guy who owns a MK7 GTI 6spd, is FBO, IS38, custom tuned, WMI, all the suspension goodies, etc., and much faster than a stock TCR, unfortunately, I probably would still choose to go the RWD route. RWD is just funner, especially when modded correctly.
Gti tcr a brilliant car, very sought after and rare.
Great car review
But it's the bm for me
I'd have kept the M140i.
I owned one for 4 years, but upgraded to an OG M2.
So you down graded then 🤣🤣
@@Erwinbonkington1 Errr no, the M2 is on another level for sound, handling, cornering, ride, and chassis dynamics.
My M140i was tuned to 455bhp/634nm, so it was pretty quick (in a straight line), but pretty wobbly around the corners, and seeing as any muppet can boot it in a straight line, but cornering requires skill, I have 100% upgraded.
Maybe when you have owned both, you might understand son.
@@DjNikGnashers son 😂😂😂 I’m probably older than you lol.
So could have at least got the proper m2 Competition pack, not the slow n55 🙄😬🫣
@@Erwinbonkington1 I doubt you are older, judging by the childish amount of smilies.
Even if you were, you are obviously mentally very childish.
1) I'm 55 years old.
2) I could have bought an M2C, but for the budget I had, they were all higher mileage and multiple owners, by a long way, than my 28k, 1 owner from new, OG M2 I bought.
3) The M2C has 40bhp more, but weighs 55Kg heavier, and if you had the experience of actually owning one, and an OG, you would know there is almost no difference in performance, due to the almost identical power-to-weight ratio.
Calling my OG M2 slow is just a pathetic trolling attempt. It is still faster to 60 than my 455bhp M140i (although the M140i was much quicker once on a roll).
This is due to the much better traction of the M2, from it's wider tyres, and LSD.
Yes I could have spent the difference in cost, by modifying my M140i more, but it would still have just been an M140i.
You are an M140i fanboy (and a childish one at that), so until you have owned both, like I have, your opinion means absolutely nothing SON.
had my TCR 3 years love it not seen another one seen 48 at a steady 70 mph
@@kevdavies3445 nice!
Hey Reg, great video. Generous to GTI .. M140i in a different league. #B58
TCR will hold its value better
@@nah4got Yeah, as they are rare.
Definitely an easy choice. M140 all the way - 6 cylinders, RWD, cheaper than the Golf.
You said it!
In a straight line which is the quickest.. I would say definitely the BMW M140. As anyone had a race in a straight line which involve these two cars. Before you say that TCR is better on the bends.. I just wanted to know how is the quickest to 60 and to 100 mph.. As I said M140 would win out right in my opinion that B58 engine is a Beast..
hmm out of the two, I pick the GTI TCR just more of a track build while the m140i is a one series with a b58 lump in it without any changes to a normal one series
@@kiritokun1791 The M140i is a completely different kettle of fish. Especially with some subtle modifications. I think driving them back to back would the best way to choose between them. You say it’s ‘just a 1 series’, but the Golf GTi TCR is literally based on the normal Golf. They are the same in that respect, just done differently. The sub frame is the same as normal 1.6 mk7.5 GTI, just with different suspension, etc.
I've just sold my TCR for a Mk8 Golf R. Have to say the TCR is a great car, you need to have DCC which allows you to adjust the suspension. I hardly ever noticed any torque steer on mine so i'd say you need to get that looked at.
There are some good roads around there but far to many average speed cameras now hey 😉
Good work chaps.
@@duncanh997 Very nice!
I do like the Mk8 generation, however I’ve heard the interiors are a bit of a step down in quality compared to the MK7.5. I think if I spent time in the TCR I would be able to dial that tourqe steer out just by being smoother and being used to the car. Better tyres would help too. I think AJ has plans to get PS5’s on there soon.
i'v never noticed torque steer or any other reviews of it on the tcr but reg is used to rear wheel drive
@@andrewjohnston2901 exactly, it all depends on your driving style too. If you power hard out of a roundabout or junction, that will be where its noticed.
How have you found it going from the TCR to your Mk8 R?
@MrVideeeooo The TCR is a great car and was a real wrench to sell it. If i compare the 2, you can feel that the TCR was lighter and was ever so slightly more nimble. Where the R changes things up is grip, pulling out of junctions, wet weather, roundabouts etc, having that playful rear diff really gives you a sharp front end.
Both my TCR and R have DCC, so i can compare ride quality. I would say overall, from softest settings to the hardest settings, the R is a slightly softer smoother ride with the TCR always feeling slightly firmer.
Now, reflecting on both cars. When i sold my TCR i had big doubts whether i was doing the right thing. The TCR looked amazing where as the R is more stealthy. However from the moment i took the R off the forecourt, i have not looked back or missed the TCR once and that speaks volumes.( I dont have any issues with the infotainment system either.)
I really enjoyed this!
@@billionbear Really pleased to hear that 😁
Nice comparison there. What did you do to the M140i to make it more comfortable ?
@@danielreeves5399 Bilstein Dampers/Eibach springs - Glad you enjoyed the video.
In the more fun to drive question no one mentions the front and rear wheel drive aspect. I personally think rear wheel drive cars are more fun. But that's just me (an owner of a M140i 😛)
It was all unscripted so we didn’t talk about it directly but I mentioned the torque steer, which is a result of being FWD.
@@dmitricalnev7037 I'm in the den of lions here 🤣🤣
I had a 1.6 tdci fiesta and now got a bmw 116d and going from front to rear wheel drive is a hell of a lot more fun
Autos are so Boring 😉
Hi Reg Which interior felt more spacious from the driving position would you say out of the two?
@@markjones-ej8tm The M140i has a bit more adjustment, if you have electric seats but I would say the TCR is probably more spacious, driving position wise.
Thanks. The tcr looks taller and slightly wider. The m140 looks longer somehow. Great video 👍👍
Golf will hold value
Do you have a summary of the modification you’ve made to your 140i?
@@samherford1298 I haven’t unfortunately but I’m glad you mentioned it, I will sort out a video for that soon.
@@roadreg1820 that would be cool. Would be great for a mini review of each upgrade and whether you think it’s worth the price 🤩
@@roadreg1820would also love to see this vid 🙌
@@nallanw4329 I’ll get it sorted 😎😎
Are you at Portsdown Hill?
@@MK8RBigBuzz Good spot, we are!
Nice to see someone doing local car videos. 👍
you stated you get the 5 pot burble through the speakers in the golf. did he engine swap it was an audi rs3? 🤣
@@jamielearmonth1039 from the inside it sounds like it ! 🤷♂️
@@jamielearmonth1039 I like that 💪
Seen this owner on another channel😅
The hurse looks horrible, golf looks so much better. I ❤️ the m2 look tho. Golf for me all day long...
@@TIM612826 I’m confused - do you mean the estate ? As in the hurse?
@roadreg1820 the 140 looks like a hurse. Lol.
@@TIM612826 👀 okay buddy!
BMW
That bmw is ugly car.Golf is beautifull.That bmw is so ugly i would go for golf even if its fwd
@@bobanppvc Beauty is in the eye of the beholder 😁
@@bobanppvc bit harsh but like your style 😉