Hey all, for those interested, with these four bids, the prices paid are below: Ashcroft - 27, 34, 43, 49 & 60 - get Pick 70 Kako - 28, 46, 54 & 65 - get Pick 67 Lombard - 41, 43, 53 & 63 - get Pick 73 Marshall - 49 & 60 - deficit
I haven't watched the video yet but.... If a team has traded out of the first round, why the hell wouldn't you bid on these players? If the first pick Brisbane have is pick 27 and Essendon 28, bid at pick 1 or 2 (if you need that player type). What are they going to do take next available talent? At 27?! If a team completely commits to a academy/father son you have a free hit to bring your late picks forward. Where does Adelaide's pick 64 land after those picks get eaten up? It will raise the value for the bid on Welsh considerably won't it? Am I missing something?!
@@el-violador yes, ur missing the fact that all the clubs like to play nice when it comes to academy and father son bids because they figure if they screw a team by bidding high, then the other teams will screw them in the future. Also, for players not named levi ashcroft, nobody's going to bid on a player they don't actually want, that would just be petty and would also invite retaliation in the future. Teams will bid if they actually rate a player at that pick and would recruit them if the other team doesn't choose to match. Josh dunkley is a great example of that
@@daztalksfooty Pick 20 in a deep draft for future 2nd in a more compromised draft in a not as deep draft, which could be at best pick 19 before said compromisations lol
Pick 2 for 6 and 10 is way overs, Richmond won’t be that desperate. 6 and 18 is still slight overs points wise and is a fair deal. With the talent of the first 6 picks they’ll be content with getting 2 quality players.
As a Tiger Fan I wouldn’t be trading to get pick 2. The Draft is to even to do that this year. Picks 1 ,6 , 10 , 11 &18 are very important for the Tigers 🐅 in this draft and I think would be a massive mistake to part with any of those’s picks ? North would be a big winner out of that trade if that was to happen ? Yes it’s pick 2 you are giving up but getting 6 and 10 that could be as good as pick 2 or better ? In a very even year it is to much. Maybe a different Draft Year you would take that deal for pick 2 but not this year I don’t believe Richmond would be silly enough to do that in this draft. I do think with the right deal Clubs could get picks 20 , 23 & 24 off us for deal of first rounder picks for next years draft ? No Second Rounders picks for next year that would be a waste of our time for 20 , 23 , 24. I would be happy to take all are picks in this draft. 🏆17 🏆19 🏆20
No bloody way 6 and 10 for pick 2. This draft is deep, and pick 10 might be as good as pick 1. There is no need to trade up when you have 8 picks in the first 24. I'd take all the 8 picks and start the rebuild
Richmond needs to offload some picks into next year. Even though this is a deep draft, it would be crazy to have 6 first rounders all go out of contract at once.
Does everyone forget you can extend after the first year we could stagger that easily especially with 3 of those picks being on 3 year contracts to start if where smart and that remains to be seen ofcourse we could manage it no worries
I don't see Richmond taking 8 picks to the draft that's too many players to develop at once and can stunt development. Also all of them coming out of contract at same time. 5-6 max is my bet
@@lcurran I'd rather see all picks taken in a great draft (which we need) than speculate for next year. We prob remain in the top 5 picks next year. So, may get something decent.
Yes you are right on that. Matt Clarke is a great recruiter and we were very disappointed to lose him to you over there at West Coast. As for Travagalia he won’t get past 10 and 11 if still available at the Tigers choice you would probably need to trade higher up again like getting Melbourne pick 5 or St Kilda pick 7 or 8 if you want Travaglia ? Not that I want to help you out on that because I want to see him at the Tigers 🐅 but just saying the truth. Armstrong and Travagalia are on a lot of Clubs list to be true about this Melbourne and St Kilda are in the box seat to get him ahead of us at pick 10 and West Coast at pick 12 ☹️😤
@@Howsthat-xq3sn I reckon Richmond will go more pure mids/talls and the clubs before us will take all of the top class mids + 1 or key forwards or backs as well as the possibility of a bolter, really hoping he slides to west coast.
Pick 2 and F2nd for picks 6, 10 and 23 makes ALOT of sense Daz (and I'm genuinely saying this with my North cap off here [tho it is great]) From a rebuilding perspective though it ticks every box! And getting a future second (high one at that) it makes all the more difference in a SPREAD of talent across the first few yrs of a rebuild. Richmond fans plus a few others, losing their minds over that are just thinking of the now in what's a SINGLE draft. Of course its a deep one and for Richmond to take the best two players in the draft for a tag team team tandem trick (say that 5 times really quick) your not just getting a premium punch fir the next 10-15yrs your getting the best opportunity from A REBUILDING PERSPECTIVE to draft inward. THROUGH THE SPINE. Which is exactly what you've done mate *chefs kiss perfecto. Teams will be looking for refinement and depth this year onwards people. Tassie looms and if any team can trade up for higher quality and higher chances to select in a draft, they're doing it. From a North perspective tho Richmond fans, trust me you DO NOT want to take all those 1st rounders into a draft. North went down that road and history is grim. I hear what you'll say "cause its North" and frankly yes.. along with Brisbane, Carlton, Melbourne etc near half the comp has gone through it and its no exception here.
Yeah but your looking at it from a prospective of a normal draft and it's not a good deal for richmond at all we will be giving you potential travaglia and maybe shanahan for finn thats madness we need more than mids we need kpp players aswell you didn't take your north hat off at all your 2nd rounder nect year in a significantly compromised draft means nothing when we will have the pick before it. A fair trade is either 6 and 18 or 10 and 18 and 20 then you get 3 pick an we move up in an even draft but to give you 2 first rounders to live 4 spots is nuts we don't need to do that trade at all you guys do. Also if you use pick 2 it will likely be on a kpp in tauru or Armstrong then we get one of the elite mids anyway. As I said we won't care for your 2nd rounder next year that won't even move the needle. Just my opinion and yes my richmond hat is still on but points wise those trades are similar.. And wce set the price for a top pick this year with 12 and 14 so no way we give up 6 and 10 there is no chance for that. And as you said with tassie around the corner we need as many top picks as possible like you guys do
@@Womas161 no no I completely understand on what your saying. I do strongly disagree on several points though. - I took this deep draft into account especially with the idea that if Richmond do in fact make this trade, then it strictly narrows the mindset of targeting KPP'S and from there Richmond can in fact recruit players for their future spin even after a trade with North. - I did take my North cap off. Whether you believe that or not is strictly how the domino's fall. Another reason this trade works for Richmond though is they're not hetching their bets off this singular draft. Dosn't matter how deep a draft is who recruit 8 draftees you've got 8 players who are most more than likely coming out if contract the same time. We can be generous and say they sign extensions at a staggered rate but the level of talent and development or lack of, is the same. It's like what Daz said though. Richmond can land two of the best three Midfielders in tbe draft and fill out their spin for the next 10-15yrs. That's done with KPP's To address your mention of WC setting a standard of dealing a top 3 pick, being honest, WC screwed themselves over in that deal. Having two players they could've signed for nothing as part of it significantly devalued pick 3. You raise an interesting debate, though I strongly disagree with what you've said. That as it may be, it's a good hypothetical to debate over and will be more interesting to see how things go
@@ShadowLight-kn7rl fair point in regard to kpp players and a future move afterwards melbourne getting 2 picks inside the 10 really threw a spanner in the works in regards to kpp players. I like the debate because there are so many different avenues /opinions aswell I do enjoy this time of year. I just no I can come across as arrogant instead of passionate sometimes 🤣🤣 I just think where giving up alot to secure the top 2 in a very even 10 but I will concede our recruiters may think very differently. I have sensed we do want those 2 boys weather we give up so much remains to be seen but thats half the fun in the end 🤣 Wc sure did shot themselves seemed like they should of just done the deal with us instead they would have pick 10 instead of 12 I'd suspect.. I will throw up a crazy trade give me your thoughts We give you 6 10 and 11 and 20 for 2 and your future first or what would you change to get that deal done from your perspective but would get you guys all the kpp players you want in a stronger draft than next year which looks to be midfield heavy at the top again. Whilst we stagger top picks over 2 years making it easier to retain them in the long run. Completely hypothetical ofcourse I don't think it happens
@@Womas161 fully agree with what you said mate!!! In terms of your trade hypothetical, I think that's one too many picks given up. I agree on your thoughts that it's a strong draft. Hence why I took the direction that North's future 2nd though not a first rounder, it's points value as early second round pick will in fact be the same in value as this year's pick 20 (course its a liquid pick, though the projected value based off history looms promising lol) There is also the potential chance that a third party gets involved in this too as that is often the the case in what gets pick swap trades done more fluently. Be very exciting to see where things fall. I'll stand by my previous comment that granted at face value Richmond do give up a bit of something for getting something else. Same can be said for both parties tbh. Though for North it's more of a preference. We could certainly take pick 2 to the draft, tho that's probably not the most preferred direction. Bloody oath what a head scratcher 🤣 hopefully both sides come out if it for the better
How much are WC going to regret trading pick 3? Only Boantempellen at 15 can save us. Contrary to your suggestion, I think WC do in fact need a midfielder. Happy with Cooper Hynes at 30.
Yep, can’t believe they traded pick 3 without getting a top 10! Pick back at least. Think they will use pick 15 for Bo Allan. Need high talent midfielders. Allan plays similar to Ginbey. A half back/ mid.
There is not a chance in the world that Carlton will take Jagga Smith in the draft. Yes, Sid Draper as the 3rd option, but you clearly don't understand the Carlton team, what they have and why they traded up for this pick. Carlton don't need another extractor, they need a point of difference.
Love the trade Daz! Makes a whole lot of sense!!! Now. Armstrong, Trainor and M.Whitlock is spot on!!! Armstrong is the perfect student to Darlings master and the fact they both know how to use their bodies in the game means Harry can learn the dark arts from the get go while having the cover to make his own art work effective. Trainor is also a bargain get for North for every reason and pinch of culture too. So many people are sleeping on him and I get that, but its getting beyobd ridiculous. Tauru would be great, but if Trainor is on the board while Tauru isn't, you take Luke as he's just as good as Alix with the refinement of a tempered vision of play. It's the composure and precision North needs in a big man for the future as when Logue and Corr depart, W.Dawson and L.Trainor enter and go BANG!!! Matt Whitlock is the crème de la crème for North mate and I so wish he can land at the Roo's. Where Darling Mentors all the big kids for the forward line w/Larkey as teacgers aid, Matt makes the perfect shadiw to Charlie Comben. And that's what I'd have him do. Comben while down back predominantly I have no doubts he'll swing forward at times and be the perfect Utility at North. Whitlick is the perfect successor to that. And with Chom's injury sheet I have no doubt that Matt can become the same as he's strongest in defence but has shown to be a very capable forward. The blessing of a side with the continuous options of flipping a 3 pronged tall offence to Defence at the flip of a switch is a lethal combination and I am all for that for North mate. Loving your work mate! Keep up the good stuff!
1.Lalor 6.Langford 10.Armstrong/Tauru 11.Allan/Hotton 18.20.23.24 Out of Whitlock,Shanahan,Faull, Dodson, Dattoli. OR if we get pick 2 prob lose 6,18 1.Lalor 2.OSullivan 10. same as above 11. same as above 20,23,24 any of Whitlock, Faull, Dodson Thoughts (Thinking Melb may grab Armstrong at pick 9.)
Agree with everyone else the pick trade is unlikely. Tho im not sure why you included it cause it pretty much makes the entire exercise useless because who Richmond theoretically pick at 2 changes the whole outcome of subsequent picks. Don't know why you include a theoretical trade that undermines the entire point of an exercise like this.
good vid mate but no way we let a minnow like North pull our pants down with that trade! 6 and 10 is overs before 20 even gets thrown in. I hope we make them an offer on 2 but don't pay crazy overs. If they want to reach for a tall at 2, that's their business - just means someone else will be waiting at 6!
Yeah Richmond could very easily let North take someone. If it's a mid or even Lalor, Tigers get a Langford or Smillie. I'm trusting Cal's judgement that they want Finn and Sam
Daz, I don't see the picks on the screen (referencing you saying "Gold Coast have the picks as you can see on the screen"). Great video, just nit picking cos I'm a pain, sorry😅
Daz, as your resident North supporter "I'm Just Wild About Harry" Luke Trainor is one payer the club is chasing in this draft and will fit in very nicely as that intercept marking option.
Amen 🙏 on that I agree Lalor and Langford would be good at picks 1. & 6 if Langford is gone before 6 Smillie could be at 6 for the Tigers but one to watch is Harry Armstrong Richmond would be keen for the Tall Forward and may not be able to get him unless that get him at pick 6 ? Even that may not be enough as Melbourne may select him at pick 5. This is what I would do with Richmond picks if it was up to me and theses players were available at theses selections? Pick 1 Lalor , Pick 6 Langford or Smillie , Pick 10 Travagalia , Pick 11 Armstrong or Trainor , Pick 18 Hotton , Pick 20 Berry , Pick 23 Whitlock or Shanahan , Pick 24 Dattoli. That to me would be a perfect draft by Richmond. We would have great Mids and two of the best Tall forwards one of the best tall backs and two of the best small forwards in Berry and Dattoli. In saying all this I would still be open for trades with picks 23 & 24 offers for 1st round picks in next years draft only if Berry and Dattoli are not available there at 23 & 24 ? I hope we a least get some of theses players I have mentioned 😁💥✨🥇 🏆🏆🏆🐅🐅🐅
No clear favourite for the number one this year I think any of the top 5 could be potentially picked at one, I have Smith going first, Ashcroft second, O'Sullivan third, Draper fourth, Lalor fifth! Whether a Vic club picks Draper will be interesting I think if O'Sullivan is taken before Carltons pick and Draper is still available then they will pick him up and vice versa! Probably the most stacked first round since 2018
Nice video Daz! Do you potentially see North instead of trading down from pick 2 keeping it and using their future first for 2 picks in the 6-20 range or would that not be a good enough offer? 100% agree we need talls a plenty at North and this draft is perfect one to do so.
Scary thing is whoever Carlton pick with 3 it has cost them 2 first round picks this draft a future first and a future second a lot of capital to spend on Jagga Smith or Sid Draper
I really rate Travaglia, hoping tigers grab him. Would fit in perfectly down back with the rest of what we have and rioli moving out. He can also take intercept marks, did it at the championships.
@@daztalksfooty Tigz won't give 3 picks away especially as its such a strong & even draft, there'll be top line talent at 6 for them to select, Tigs will be wanting 5-6 players in this draft then trade the rest of the picks for next year.
The tigers don’t need to overpay. North are the ones who will be desperate to split. Tigers can still happily walk away with great talent at 6. 6 and 18 maybe.
@@yokobarry-ns3itagree I don't think Tigers care to be moving . It will be more North wanting to split which gives tigers the power to offer up a trade
Great mock! You clearly no your stuff Daz I would love that trade as a north fan! I’m a bit worried our future first might need to be involved though! Your trade would be perfect for us! I love Tauru and hope we grab him at 6, travaglia at 11 and a Whitlock or faul at 20 odd 🤞 I’m a little worried Armstrong and Larkey are best suited as a low possession full forward. Which would be less than ideal for our forward mix. Combden or Tauru forward for their contested marking would be ideal Travalgia for much need pace and rebound with potential to become our defensive mid long term. Whitlocks/ Faull - future third tall forward and back up ruck
Love the Eagles picks here. If we go into it with 12+26 they're the ideal pair imo. Hynes a big body mid who works with Reid and Hewett and Travaglia who I'd have taken if the Eagles had pick 5 tbh, just the perfect fit
Everyone's saying the depth of this draft runs deep but rest-assured the top 6 or 7 ARE superior and similar, and Richmond have positively spoken with all of them. #2 for #6, #10 and #20 is seriously close to #10 and #20 for nothing!
@daztalksfooty I'm afraid you did sir. Pick 20 was part of your trade. You then had north Melbourne picking at 21, but this was 18 moved back 3 places by Ashcroft, Kako and Lombard 😊
Dees would be over the moon with these selections. Could see the Giants getting involved with the pick swap, in a three way deal i.e., Tigers 2+16, Roos 6+15, Giants 10+23.
Respect the evaluation of each of the players, terrible trade for Richmond though. Don’t see any reason why they would do that trade. They can only take 5-6 players and pick 24, the start of round 2 will 100% be traded as it will more than likely be a hot commodity to other teams targeting someone who slipped, likely first round pick plus extra. If it’s 3 picks to NM surely 10, 18 and 20. North don’t need pick 2 as they need to target talls, allowing them to aim for Tauru/Trainor and Matt Whitlock later as well as best player available with 3rd. Worst case Richmond could offer 10 and 11 if saints come with an offer of splitting one of their picks with gws. Really want Richmond to get Fos and Lalor, but trading pick 6 plus 2 picks makes zero sense, maybe if norths future first was involved but even then it seems like too much in a deep and evenly based draft, not to mention how desperate teams are to get back into this draft. Solid breakdown aside the massively favourable trade to north.
Love your work mate but zero chance the tigers trade 6, 10, and 18 i domt aee nect years 2nd from nth mobing the needle in a really compromised draft. But i do like the picks that we did take live dodson at 27 he will be veey similar to jackson afyer some development i reckon hes very good below his knees for a bloke that tall. Keep up the good work 👏
No way, Pyke and Worsefold will let Bo Allan stolen by other club. The new playing style requires line breaking player like Bo Allan. Top 15 players are very even. For similar quality, WA talents come first.
@@johnfloris6306 with pick 20 that we don't give away, or 11 which prob becomes 14. Berry's ranked at 13 and if we keep our picks we've probably already got 3 mids by then.
I'll be gobsmacked if North trade down to 6 just so they could take Armstrong. They have Duursma coming along who I would rate as better overhead than Armstrong. On the flipside, Trainor at pick 10-11 would be short odds to occur. He's basically the Dan Houston of this draft.
Not sure if Port would go with a small forward 1st pick,especially after picking up Joe Richards Sam Powell Pepper walks into our forward line when he comes back from injury then theirs Rioli,then JHF plays 50/50 mid/forward role.Have Tom Anastopoulous and Lachie Charleson who are small forwards on the list also but yet to debut,they could be duds but only drafted last year
Was a toss up between Berry & Lindsay. Reckon Port take Barrat or a key defender with their pick in the 30's so they can get two positions of need in one go. Keep in mind as well Hawthorn had Jack Ginnivan, Luke Breust and Dylan Moore. Sam Butler coming off an ACL, Jack O'Sullivan and Josh Bennetts who haven't/won't debut and still went with Watson.
St Kilda are very very hot on Trav. I would be surprised if we took Reid over him. I get your logic with Tauru and the Saints as well. St Kilda had Adrian Cole at 196cm at age 17. He's apparently gotten a little taller, he's more of a Dougal Howard Key Back than a pocket. I really wouldn't be shocked if we take Tauru over reid. Different types of defenders.
To be honest Draper has to contest with Peatling Soligo Berry Crouch and Taylor more so then Laird. Laird it seems will be a depth option for half back but will be teaming up with Smith in the sanfl to help the up and coming talent. FOS would be a great get for Crows aswell I would take him over Draper if available.
@@daztalksfooty In an even draft then trading up would require a lower value. Tigers are better off sticking then paying overs. Pair Lalor with Smillie or Langford at 6.
Good draft but I noticed 2 massive points of contention. I don't see why the Kangaroos would draft another key forward, the list is overloaded with key forward prospects that can't break through. I think Josh Smillie fits their list profile far better. Similarly, I don't see why St Kilda would draft Josh Smillie. Their list is pretty stuffed with taller midfield types, they need more pace rather than strength.
“If Jack works out…”? Jack Whitlock won’t play any senior footy for 2 years at a minimum, so the argument he’d make our forward line better would apply from 2027!!!
Not a fan of finn, clumsy player not clean with the ball like draper or jagga, to me Carlton need explosive speed = jagga or drapes yeh , check out drapes in the sanfl reminds me of sam Mitchell type player. plus look how the camp brothers play so well with him.
@@allenterry8614 Who do Essendon put more faith in to rise? Melbourne or Essendon? haha.. We'll know by who's pick they use to trade into this draft lol
@nathanmancusi2766 Yes, it will be very interesting indeed. TBH I think other teams will think Melbourne's would be the bigger carrot. But depends what pick they're chasing i suppose. Either way I hope we're able to pic up a great addition to the team.
North isn't trading their F1 for #10. I agree Richmond won't give three first round picks up for #2, but they will be very interested in #2 to have full control over who they get with their first two picks. The first six in this draft are supposed to be superior to the rest and #6 will get you the 7th pick at best.
@@gustaaf1892 north has brought in some experienced players and with another preseason under the belt of their young stars you don’t think they could finish higher on the ladder to justify pick 10 probably 15 to 13. Your not trading pick 10 in this year’s draft to get pick 10 in next year’s draft, at worst you would want pick 6 in what is considered a worse draft than this year’s. Also you’re taking the risk of North doing a Hawthorn and ending up with a pick in the teens!
@@seantayler5418 North should improve considerably, but the gap with the clubs above West Coast was very considerable. Adelaide should improve and whilst Melbourne could go backwards, they had 8 more wins than North last season. The bookies would probably have North finish 3rd last. North's first pick in 2025 will most likely be a top 3 pick and at worst top 5. I think North's goal should be to win 8 games, but I have been significantly overestimating their likely number of wins for the last two years. Btw, there are already rumours that the top end of next year's draft is better than this year.
jagga will go to tigers i am sure tigers will go for pick 2 but probably for picks 10 and 18 the draft is very even all top 30 will walk into sides next year
All of the top 30 will not walk into sides next year, the 2001 draft is the best of all time and still had players not work out, let's not get crazy with expectations
I'd say because it is such a good draft the Tigers will give 6 and 18 for north's 2 . If North don't want to accept that I doubt it would phase the Tigers. Also WestCoast will be doing a trade with either Giants or Tigers to move back into the first round with a combination of futures .
With this iteration of the mock draft, Tom Gross is high up there. Archer Day-Wicks could be another. I'm high on Zak Johnson but I wonder if a mid is the way to go. Is it all feasible that the Hawks take a ruck and go for a Kayle Gerryn or Tom Sims? Jack Ough is on the radar as a def/mid but the list isn't lacking for a lot tbh
Whoa, whoa whoa!!! Can you explain why Bo Allen is a really good fit for Fremantle? I mean even a tangential hint of why. He isn't getting a game in the backline or the midfield. You suggested he can play wing in an evidence free throw away comment, and ignoring that it will isn't an area of need with Sharp and O'Driscoll yet to reach their prime.
@@BigCatinBKK sure, I agree. Allen projects as one of the most ready to go players in the draft In our current midfield we have both Johnson and Erasmus holding their breath until Fyfe retires plus we have Brodie with 2 more years on his contract. I'm not a fan of bringing in first round picks and not having some kind of development pathway for them Erasmus is a case in point: best player this year in the WAFL and best in the WAFL Grand final, but can't get a game at the top level. Travaglia, Lyndsay, Berry, Hannaford: all hit areas of actual need for us. Pace, skills, forward impact. But Allen is a very decent prospect.
@@Pak_Gigit If Allen is considered the best available at Freo's pick, I don't think any of this would be an obstacle to picking him. There's also no reason he couldn't start on a HBF.
@@BigCatinBKK what he said was Allen is a really good fit, not that he is best available. I don't think he is either a good fit, nor is he best available. I think it is around the top of Allen's range IF a club believes he transitions into the midfield. And midfield is not an area we need someone of his type We have depth there who cannot get an opportunity. Erasmus, Johnson and Brodie, with only Fyfe looking to exit. O'Meara can't get a go there. We need players who will impact forward of centre with speed, football IQ and good delivery.
The tin rattling tigers, scream “save our skins” in one of the most overrated drafts in recent memory. What a shit year to have 8 first round picks. Be trading for pick 2 in a heart beat. I’d give up 3 inside the 18 to get it done. The top 5 are guaranteed 200+ gamers. The rest are a gamble.
Ehhhh. I don’t love it, I’m still sooking since west coast have pretty much traded out of this draft, but I’m questioning a few if these picks. Nothing against it, I just feel like a few of them Richmond picks should be smaller, mids and forwards. I know west coast delisted witherdern, but I’m completely against picking travallia if Allan is still on the table. I’m big on him being that dash off half back, his got a big body too, something the eagles are really going to lack down there after gov, if he developed into a third tall back man, something to replace rotham with would be another ideal scenario. I liked it when they were playing him down there in the peel colours, he looked really composed down there. It gives me Daniel curtin vibes, I know west coast were looking to trade up out of this year to try and acquire him, and we still haven’t found that guy. 🤷♂️
Carlton will take Draper it’s the only reason why they traded up above the us I’d rather draft Smith or Lalor because both have higher ceilings. Laird Crouch Smith and Murphy all should be banished to SANFL also Laird and Crouch should have been traded this trade period.
Nah you done fucked up. You don't pick Bo for eagles who need big mids but do for freo who have too many big mids and plenty of half backs. So how is he a really good fit?! lol. Freo would pick Lindsay over Allan IMO.
He wouldn't be a mid though. Would start at a point across the square so for the Dockers, he wouldn't need to start straight away and could slot on a wing or HF. Not every 1st round pick needs to play Rd 1
Hey all, for those interested, with these four bids, the prices paid are below:
Ashcroft - 27, 34, 43, 49 & 60 - get Pick 70
Kako - 28, 46, 54 & 65 - get Pick 67
Lombard - 41, 43, 53 & 63 - get Pick 73
Marshall - 49 & 60 - deficit
I haven't watched the video yet but.... If a team has traded out of the first round, why the hell wouldn't you bid on these players? If the first pick Brisbane have is pick 27 and Essendon 28, bid at pick 1 or 2 (if you need that player type). What are they going to do take next available talent? At 27?! If a team completely commits to a academy/father son you have a free hit to bring your late picks forward. Where does Adelaide's pick 64 land after those picks get eaten up? It will raise the value for the bid on Welsh considerably won't it? Am I missing something?!
@@el-violador yes, ur missing the fact that all the clubs like to play nice when it comes to academy and father son bids because they figure if they screw a team by bidding high, then the other teams will screw them in the future. Also, for players not named levi ashcroft, nobody's going to bid on a player they don't actually want, that would just be petty and would also invite retaliation in the future. Teams will bid if they actually rate a player at that pick and would recruit them if the other team doesn't choose to match. Josh dunkley is a great example of that
@@biggi3st3v3 Josh dunkley was rigged Sydney said they would match a bid on him if he got picked by a non Victorian team now that's a joke
I think essendon trade out 28 into next year especially if stkilda are the ones to bid on him
@@CoreyJones-kq1wj yeah I'm sure they were laughing when he became a star and won 2 premierships against them😂
Only a fool would offer 6,10,23 for pick 2 in a draft in which experts cannot split top 8 possible 10 first draftees
And a future asset
We will offer 6-18 if they don't like it ends there.
there is zero percent chance Richmond do the deal
Richmond supporters just turned off. Never happen.
@@daztalksfooty Pick 20 in a deep draft for future 2nd in a more compromised draft in a not as deep draft, which could be at best pick 19 before said compromisations lol
Pick 2 for 6 and 10 is way overs, Richmond won’t be that desperate. 6 and 18 is still slight overs points wise and is a fair deal. With the talent of the first 6 picks they’ll be content with getting 2 quality players.
They very well could say no, by no means am I holding them hostage over it
North are taking finn sullivan
6, 18 for pick 2?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
North will tell your list boss to gagf. It would be the cheapest pick 2 in history 😂
Tiggers supporters are nuffies.
No way Richmond do that unless Norths future 1st was involved. Massive overs.
Future first could be, that's a ballsy move to trade Pick 2 and another top 5 pick for one single digit, one teens and one pick in the 20's
@@daztalksfooty maybe a future first mate only our club will know best mate
Jesus Daz and i wanted you to be Richmond's new recruitment manager...in the words of Donald Trump.... Your Fired
As a Tiger Fan I wouldn’t be trading to get pick 2. The Draft is to even to do that this year. Picks 1 ,6 , 10 , 11 &18 are very important for the Tigers 🐅 in this draft and I think would be a massive mistake to part with any of those’s picks ? North would be a big winner out of that trade if that was to happen ? Yes it’s pick 2 you are giving up but getting 6 and 10 that could be as good as pick 2 or better ? In a very even year it is to much. Maybe a different Draft Year you would take that deal for pick 2 but not this year I don’t believe Richmond would be silly enough to do that in this draft. I do think with the right deal Clubs could get picks 20 , 23 & 24 off us for deal of first rounder picks for next years draft ? No Second Rounders picks for next year that would be a waste of our time for 20 , 23 , 24. I would be happy to take all are picks in this draft. 🏆17 🏆19 🏆20
That's more than fair mate, can't argue with that at all
No bloody way 6 and 10 for pick 2. This draft is deep, and pick 10 might be as good as pick 1. There is no need to trade up when you have 8 picks in the first 24. I'd take all the 8 picks and start the rebuild
Richmond needs to offload some picks into next year. Even though this is a deep draft, it would be crazy to have 6 first rounders all go out of contract at once.
Does everyone forget you can extend after the first year we could stagger that easily especially with 3 of those picks being on 3 year contracts to start if where smart and that remains to be seen ofcourse we could manage it no worries
Think p6,10,20 for p2 + future way overs, losing 2picks this year. Rather keep picks in a better draft this year. Maybe p6,10 only.
Could be
Agree that would be so dumb by Richmond. Pick 6 and 18 should get that done since north will get the player they want at 6 and a bonus at 18
I don't see Richmond taking 8 picks to the draft that's too many players to develop at once and can stunt development. Also all of them coming out of contract at same time. 5-6 max is my bet
@@lcurran I'd rather see all picks taken in a great draft (which we need) than speculate for next year. We prob remain in the top 5 picks next year. So, may get something decent.
Thanks for doing this , always a fun exercise and takes a bit of effort to put together.
Thanks for saying that mate, love the username
Elite choices for WC, dream draft
If Travagalia slides to our pick I will forgive Matt Clarke who might just be a genius and predicted it all.
Love that for Clarkey
Yes you are right on that. Matt Clarke is a great recruiter and we were very disappointed to lose him to you over there at West Coast. As for Travagalia he won’t get past 10 and 11 if still available at the Tigers choice you would probably need to trade higher up again like getting Melbourne pick 5 or St Kilda pick 7 or 8 if you want Travaglia ? Not that I want to help you out on that because I want to see him at the Tigers 🐅 but just saying the truth. Armstrong and Travagalia are on a lot of Clubs list to be true about this Melbourne and St Kilda are in the box seat to get him ahead of us at pick 10 and West Coast at pick 12 ☹️😤
@@Howsthat-xq3sn I reckon Richmond will go more pure mids/talls and the clubs before us will take all of the top class mids + 1 or key forwards or backs as well as the possibility of a bolter, really hoping he slides to west coast.
Pick 2 and F2nd for picks 6, 10 and 23 makes ALOT of sense Daz (and I'm genuinely saying this with my North cap off here [tho it is great])
From a rebuilding perspective though it ticks every box! And getting a future second (high one at that) it makes all the more difference in a SPREAD of talent across the first few yrs of a rebuild.
Richmond fans plus a few others, losing their minds over that are just thinking of the now in what's a SINGLE draft. Of course its a deep one and for Richmond to take the best two players in the draft for a tag team team tandem trick (say that 5 times really quick) your not just getting a premium punch fir the next 10-15yrs your getting the best opportunity from A REBUILDING PERSPECTIVE to draft inward. THROUGH THE SPINE.
Which is exactly what you've done mate *chefs kiss perfecto. Teams will be looking for refinement and depth this year onwards people. Tassie looms and if any team can trade up for higher quality and higher chances to select in a draft, they're doing it.
From a North perspective tho Richmond fans, trust me you DO NOT want to take all those 1st rounders into a draft. North went down that road and history is grim. I hear what you'll say "cause its North" and frankly yes.. along with Brisbane, Carlton, Melbourne etc near half the comp has gone through it and its no exception here.
Yeah but your looking at it from a prospective of a normal draft and it's not a good deal for richmond at all we will be giving you potential travaglia and maybe shanahan for finn thats madness we need more than mids we need kpp players aswell you didn't take your north hat off at all your 2nd rounder nect year in a significantly compromised draft means nothing when we will have the pick before it.
A fair trade is either 6 and 18 or
10 and 18 and 20 then you get 3 pick an we move up in an even draft but to give you 2 first rounders to live 4 spots is nuts we don't need to do that trade at all you guys do. Also if you use pick 2 it will likely be on a kpp in tauru or Armstrong then we get one of the elite mids anyway.
As I said we won't care for your 2nd rounder next year that won't even move the needle. Just my opinion and yes my richmond hat is still on but points wise those trades are similar..
And wce set the price for a top pick this year with 12 and 14 so no way we give up 6 and 10 there is no chance for that. And as you said with tassie around the corner we need as many top picks as possible like you guys do
Pps hope that didn't come across as rude because that wasn't my intention just my perspective :)
@@Womas161 no no I completely understand on what your saying. I do strongly disagree on several points though.
- I took this deep draft into account especially with the idea that if Richmond do in fact make this trade, then it strictly narrows the mindset of targeting KPP'S and from there Richmond can in fact recruit players for their future spin even after a trade with North.
- I did take my North cap off. Whether you believe that or not is strictly how the domino's fall. Another reason this trade works for Richmond though is they're not hetching their bets off this singular draft. Dosn't matter how deep a draft is who recruit 8 draftees you've got 8 players who are most more than likely coming out if contract the same time. We can be generous and say they sign extensions at a staggered rate but the level of talent and development or lack of, is the same.
It's like what Daz said though. Richmond can land two of the best three Midfielders in tbe draft and fill out their spin for the next 10-15yrs. That's done with KPP's
To address your mention of WC setting a standard of dealing a top 3 pick, being honest, WC screwed themselves over in that deal. Having two players they could've signed for nothing as part of it significantly devalued pick 3.
You raise an interesting debate, though I strongly disagree with what you've said. That as it may be, it's a good hypothetical to debate over and will be more interesting to see how things go
@@ShadowLight-kn7rl fair point in regard to kpp players and a future move afterwards melbourne getting 2 picks inside the 10 really threw a spanner in the works in regards to kpp players.
I like the debate because there are so many different avenues /opinions aswell I do enjoy this time of year. I just no I can come across as arrogant instead of passionate sometimes 🤣🤣
I just think where giving up alot to secure the top 2 in a very even 10 but I will concede our recruiters may think very differently. I have sensed we do want those 2 boys weather we give up so much remains to be seen but thats half the fun in the end 🤣
Wc sure did shot themselves seemed like they should of just done the deal with us instead they would have pick 10 instead of 12 I'd suspect..
I will throw up a crazy trade give me your thoughts
We give you 6 10 and 11 and 20 for 2 and your future first or what would you change to get that deal done from your perspective but would get you guys all the kpp players you want in a stronger draft than next year which looks to be midfield heavy at the top again.
Whilst we stagger top picks over 2 years making it easier to retain them in the long run.
Completely hypothetical ofcourse I don't think it happens
@@Womas161 fully agree with what you said mate!!!
In terms of your trade hypothetical, I think that's one too many picks given up. I agree on your thoughts that it's a strong draft. Hence why I took the direction that North's future 2nd though not a first rounder, it's points value as early second round pick will in fact be the same in value as this year's pick 20 (course its a liquid pick, though the projected value based off history looms promising lol)
There is also the potential chance that a third party gets involved in this too as that is often the the case in what gets pick swap trades done more fluently.
Be very exciting to see where things fall. I'll stand by my previous comment that granted at face value Richmond do give up a bit of something for getting something else. Same can be said for both parties tbh. Though for North it's more of a preference. We could certainly take pick 2 to the draft, tho that's probably not the most preferred direction.
Bloody oath what a head scratcher 🤣 hopefully both sides come out if it for the better
Draper is the exact perfect mold of a midfielder the crows need. Langford, jagga, smilie dont fill the need for pace and burst.
Another one that will surprise me going that late. I'd have him top 4 without question.
yeah draper would be my first pick for us, along with Lalor, then smilie.
@@anappropriatehandle You should jump for joy if he lasts to pick 5 mate. I rate him the best pure inside-outside midfielder in the draft.
Great work daz. As a still mad asf eagle supporter ur slowly bringing me back. Be happy with Allen or Travaglia at 15
How much are WC going to regret trading pick 3?
Only Boantempellen at 15 can save us.
Contrary to your suggestion, I think WC do in fact need a midfielder.
Happy with Cooper Hynes at 30.
Yep, can’t believe they traded pick 3 without getting a top 10! Pick back at least. Think they will use pick 15 for Bo Allan. Need high talent midfielders. Allan plays similar to Ginbey. A half back/ mid.
Good vid, always enjoy your content Dazzling
Thanks legend
Looking at whether we trade up to P2. Feeling is stay at P6.
I think trade up.
FOS better than Smillie.
Here are options.
Opt1 - P2+F2 > P6,11.
Picks 1,2,10....
Opt2 - P2 > P6,18.
Picks 1,2,10,11.....
Opt3 - P2 > P10,11.
Picks 1,2,6.......
Opt1 Lalor, FOS, B.Allan/Hotton/Smillie
Opt2 Lalor, FOS, as above
Opt3 Lalor, FOS, Tauru/Langford/Smillie.
Thoughts???
mate that trade is blasphemous, pick 6 and 20 for pick 2 is a more fair deal, pick 6 and 10?! Na man ur trippin
8 & 14 was the last deal with a worse draft, why would it be a downgrade?
There is not a chance in the world that Carlton will take Jagga Smith in the draft. Yes, Sid Draper as the 3rd option, but you clearly don't understand the Carlton team, what they have and why they traded up for this pick. Carlton don't need another extractor, they need a point of difference.
Who will Carlton take then? Draper?
Yeah
Hey daz, who do you think Essendon will trade with to get back into the first round and what pick would it be?
Love the trade Daz! Makes a whole lot of sense!!!
Now. Armstrong, Trainor and M.Whitlock is spot on!!!
Armstrong is the perfect student to Darlings master and the fact they both know how to use their bodies in the game means Harry can learn the dark arts from the get go while having the cover to make his own art work effective.
Trainor is also a bargain get for North for every reason and pinch of culture too. So many people are sleeping on him and I get that, but its getting beyobd ridiculous. Tauru would be great, but if Trainor is on the board while Tauru isn't, you take Luke as he's just as good as Alix with the refinement of a tempered vision of play. It's the composure and precision North needs in a big man for the future as when Logue and Corr depart, W.Dawson and L.Trainor enter and go BANG!!!
Matt Whitlock is the crème de la crème for North mate and I so wish he can land at the Roo's. Where Darling Mentors all the big kids for the forward line w/Larkey as teacgers aid, Matt makes the perfect shadiw to Charlie Comben. And that's what I'd have him do. Comben while down back predominantly I have no doubts he'll swing forward at times and be the perfect Utility at North. Whitlick is the perfect successor to that. And with Chom's injury sheet I have no doubt that Matt can become the same as he's strongest in defence but has shown to be a very capable forward. The blessing of a side with the continuous options of flipping a 3 pronged tall offence to Defence at the flip of a switch is a lethal combination and I am all for that for North mate.
Loving your work mate! Keep up the good stuff!
1.Lalor
6.Langford
10.Armstrong/Tauru
11.Allan/Hotton
18.20.23.24
Out of Whitlock,Shanahan,Faull,
Dodson, Dattoli.
OR if we get pick 2 prob lose 6,18
1.Lalor
2.OSullivan
10. same as above
11. same as above
20,23,24 any of
Whitlock, Faull, Dodson
Thoughts
(Thinking Melb may grab Armstrong at pick 9.)
Agree with everyone else the pick trade is unlikely. Tho im not sure why you included it cause it pretty much makes the entire exercise useless because who Richmond theoretically pick at 2 changes the whole outcome of subsequent picks. Don't know why you include a theoretical trade that undermines the entire point of an exercise like this.
Thoughts on North Melbourne trading pick 2 for St Kilda’s pick 7 and future first?
good vid mate but no way we let a minnow like North pull our pants down with that trade! 6 and 10 is overs before 20 even gets thrown in. I hope we make them an offer on 2 but don't pay crazy overs. If they want to reach for a tall at 2, that's their business - just means someone else will be waiting at 6!
Yeah Richmond could very easily let North take someone. If it's a mid or even Lalor, Tigers get a Langford or Smillie. I'm trusting Cal's judgement that they want Finn and Sam
Great info cheers!
Fantastic stuff great viewing highly recommended viewing
No chance Richmond trading 6,10 & 18 for pick 2!! Delusional
Daz, I don't see the picks on the screen (referencing you saying "Gold Coast have the picks as you can see on the screen"). Great video, just nit picking cos I'm a pain, sorry😅
St Kilda put in a ton or work into Tauru at the combine and he fills the Battle hole perfectly - I reckon he gets taken before Reid
There you go! I can definitely see the logic behind it
Daz, as your resident North supporter "I'm Just Wild About Harry" Luke Trainor is one payer the club is chasing in this draft and will fit in very nicely as that intercept marking option.
Yeah they're super keen on him
Prefer Lalor at pick1 then maybe Langford at pick6.
That's a big call, rate it
Amen 🙏 on that I agree Lalor and Langford would be good at picks 1. & 6 if Langford is gone before 6 Smillie could be at 6 for the Tigers but one to watch is Harry Armstrong Richmond would be keen for the Tall Forward and may not be able to get him unless that get him at pick 6 ? Even that may not be enough as Melbourne may select him at pick 5. This is what I would do with Richmond picks if it was up to me and theses players were available at theses selections? Pick 1 Lalor , Pick 6 Langford or Smillie , Pick 10 Travagalia , Pick 11 Armstrong or Trainor , Pick 18 Hotton , Pick 20 Berry , Pick 23 Whitlock or Shanahan , Pick 24 Dattoli. That to me would be a perfect draft by Richmond. We would have great Mids and two of the best Tall forwards one of the best tall backs and two of the best small forwards in Berry and Dattoli. In saying all this I would still be open for trades with picks 23 & 24 offers for 1st round picks in next years draft only if Berry and Dattoli are not available there at 23 & 24 ? I hope we a least get some of theses players I have mentioned 😁💥✨🥇 🏆🏆🏆🐅🐅🐅
Brilliant vid
Sorry but you lose all credibility with your pick swap at the start 😂
That's your opinion mate and that's okay. It's free content, I'm happy with my credibility
As a West Coast fan I would love this
We already have a Bo Allen and his name is Reuben Ginbey
No clear favourite for the number one this year I think any of the top 5 could be potentially picked at one, I have Smith going first, Ashcroft second, O'Sullivan third, Draper fourth, Lalor fifth!
Whether a Vic club picks Draper will be interesting I think if O'Sullivan is taken before Carltons pick and Draper is still available then they will pick him up and vice versa! Probably the most stacked first round since 2018
Yeah more than fair, Cal Twomey has it down to Finn or Sam but I've been big on Jagga as well!
Nice video Daz!
Do you potentially see North instead of trading down from pick 2 keeping it and using their future first for 2 picks in the 6-20 range or would that not be a good enough offer?
100% agree we need talls a plenty at North and this draft is perfect one to do so.
Could definitely be
Love the Davis ranking he has Nat Fyfe qualities.
Scary thing is whoever Carlton pick with 3 it has cost them 2 first round picks this draft a future first and a future second a lot of capital to spend on Jagga Smith or Sid Draper
Good WC Pick!
Thanks legend, love your work
You going to run a Mock draft soon aswell Jesse ?
I enjoy the content you both provide and being an eagles supporter enjoy True Eagle also.
@@user-cp4os6ws1t Thanks mate! Yes - should be up some time this coming week!
I really rate Travaglia, hoping tigers grab him. Would fit in perfectly down back with the rest of what we have and rioli moving out. He can also take intercept marks, did it at the championships.
Could be anything, Tobie
I don't think Tigz will give up 6 & 10, more like 6 & 18 or 20.
8 & 14 in a worse draft was the last Pick 2 trade, Tigs should know by now you gotta overpay
@@daztalksfooty Tigz won't give 3 picks away especially as its such a strong & even draft, there'll be top line talent at 6 for them to select, Tigs will be wanting 5-6 players in this draft then trade the rest of the picks for next year.
Agree with this comment. No chance the tiges give up that amount of picks for no.2 when this year’s draft is strong.
The tigers don’t need to overpay. North are the ones who will be desperate to split. Tigers can still happily walk away with great talent at 6.
6 and 18 maybe.
@@yokobarry-ns3itagree I don't think Tigers care to be moving . It will be more North wanting to split which gives tigers the power to offer up a trade
Great mock! You clearly no your stuff Daz
I would love that trade as a north fan! I’m a bit worried our future first might need to be involved though! Your trade would be perfect for us!
I love Tauru and hope we grab him at 6, travaglia at 11 and a Whitlock or faul at 20 odd 🤞
I’m a little worried Armstrong and Larkey are best suited as a low possession full forward. Which would be less than ideal for our forward mix. Combden or Tauru forward for their contested marking would be ideal
Travalgia for much need pace and rebound with potential to become our defensive mid long term.
Whitlocks/ Faull - future third tall forward and back up ruck
Love it mate, appreciate the feedback
Yes, Tobie! I'd take that selection along with Hynes.
Love the Eagles picks here. If we go into it with 12+26 they're the ideal pair imo.
Hynes a big body mid who works with Reid and Hewett and Travaglia who I'd have taken if the Eagles had pick 5 tbh, just the perfect fit
as a saints fan i hope you are right. Smillie and Reid would be phenomenal.
Everyone's saying the depth of this draft runs deep but rest-assured the top 6 or 7 ARE superior and similar, and Richmond have positively spoken with all of them. #2 for #6, #10 and #20 is seriously close to #10 and #20 for nothing!
Just pointing out, in the proposed trade you gave North pick 20 but then had them picking at 18
No I didn't?
@daztalksfooty I'm afraid you did sir. Pick 20 was part of your trade.
You then had north Melbourne picking at 21, but this was 18 moved back 3 places by Ashcroft, Kako and Lombard 😊
Not a fan of West Coast's trade period but that draft would be a win for the Eagles. 👍
port doesnt need another small forward, we have them in abundance. We either need a tall forward or another half back.
Blue set the standard 12 and14 for pick 3 tigers paying overs
Dees would be over the moon with these selections.
Could see the Giants getting involved with the pick swap, in a three way deal i.e., Tigers 2+16, Roos 6+15, Giants 10+23.
I love that three-way deal!
Respect the evaluation of each of the players, terrible trade for Richmond though. Don’t see any reason why they would do that trade. They can only take 5-6 players and pick 24, the start of round 2 will 100% be traded as it will more than likely be a hot commodity to other teams targeting someone who slipped, likely first round pick plus extra. If it’s 3 picks to NM surely 10, 18 and 20. North don’t need pick 2 as they need to target talls, allowing them to aim for Tauru/Trainor and Matt Whitlock later as well as best player available with 3rd. Worst case Richmond could offer 10 and 11 if saints come with an offer of splitting one of their picks with gws. Really want Richmond to get Fos and Lalor, but trading pick 6 plus 2 picks makes zero sense, maybe if norths future first was involved but even then it seems like too much in a deep and evenly based draft, not to mention how desperate teams are to get back into this draft.
Solid breakdown aside the massively favourable trade to north.
As a North fan
Yes yes and yes
If north got Armstrong, Trainor and Whitlock in this draft I could die happy
Need you around for the Kangas flag in 2028 my friend
Love your work mate but zero chance the tigers trade 6, 10, and 18 i domt aee nect years 2nd from nth mobing the needle in a really compromised draft.
But i do like the picks that we did take live dodson at 27 he will be veey similar to jackson afyer some development i reckon hes very good below his knees for a bloke that tall. Keep up the good work 👏
No way, Pyke and Worsefold will let Bo Allan stolen by other club. The new playing style requires line breaking player like Bo Allan. Top 15 players are very even. For similar quality, WA talents come first.
I hope you're right regarding North
I love the picks u have for Richmond but I think we have enough defenders especially talls
Good comment John. We (Tiges) would be taking Joe Berry before another lad to fight for a spot with Miller, Gibcus, Young, Blight, Balta, etc.
@@mrgedavies before who mate u mean the last pic Ofarrell
@@johnfloris6306 with pick 20 that we don't give away, or 11 which prob becomes 14. Berry's ranked at 13 and if we keep our picks we've probably already got 3 mids by then.
@@mrgedavies lalor and O’Sullivan or Smith is a must
top work again mate
Thanks legend
Just out of Curiosity if Draper gets taken off the board, who are Adelaide’s best 5 picks outside of him at pick 4?
Anyone before him in this draft.
Think Langford, Reid, Smillie, Travaglia & Tauru are options
I'll be gobsmacked if North trade down to 6 just so they could take Armstrong. They have Duursma coming along who I would rate as better overhead than Armstrong. On the flipside, Trainor at pick 10-11 would be short odds to occur. He's basically the Dan Houston of this draft.
North are into LT massively
Not sure if Port would go with a small forward 1st pick,especially after picking up Joe Richards Sam Powell Pepper walks into our forward line when he comes back from injury then theirs Rioli,then JHF plays 50/50 mid/forward role.Have Tom Anastopoulous and Lachie Charleson who are small forwards on the list also but yet to debut,they could be duds but only drafted last year
Was a toss up between Berry & Lindsay. Reckon Port take Barrat or a key defender with their pick in the 30's so they can get two positions of need in one go.
Keep in mind as well Hawthorn had Jack Ginnivan, Luke Breust and Dylan Moore.
Sam Butler coming off an ACL, Jack O'Sullivan and Josh Bennetts who haven't/won't debut and still went with Watson.
@@daztalksfooty heard they are actually open to trading pick 13 and 29 so order will probably change again before draft night
Who you reckon Pies will pick in pick 52 & 55 ??
Think they'll try and trade up. Wouldn't mind them targeting Charlie Nicholls
St Kilda are very very hot on Trav. I would be surprised if we took Reid over him. I get your logic with Tauru and the Saints as well. St Kilda had Adrian Cole at 196cm at age 17. He's apparently gotten a little taller, he's more of a Dougal Howard Key Back than a pocket. I really wouldn't be shocked if we take Tauru over reid. Different types of defenders.
If Travaglia is still available and West Coast don't take him, I'll spew.
I'LL SPEW UP! Shoutout Plough
Knowing west coast theyll probably take Allan over Travaglia cos hes west australian
To be honest Draper has to contest with Peatling Soligo Berry Crouch and Taylor more so then Laird. Laird it seems will be a depth option for half back but will be teaming up with Smith in the sanfl to help the up and coming talent.
FOS would be a great get for Crows aswell I would take him over Draper if available.
Yeah I would too, unfortunately in this iteration he isn't. I'd be stunned if he was tbh
Sullivan and lalor are must gets we need pick 2 hopefully not giving up that much
Yeah that's more than fair and hey, 6 & 10 may be enough and 20 for F2 may not happen but I agree on one thing; pick 2 is nearly a necessity
Tigers aren't making that trade especially when Richmond knocked back a trade up to 3 in the Baker trade.
Could very well be true
@@daztalksfooty In an even draft then trading up would require a lower value. Tigers are better off sticking then paying overs. Pair Lalor with Smillie or Langford at 6.
Good draft but I noticed 2 massive points of contention. I don't see why the Kangaroos would draft another key forward, the list is overloaded with key forward prospects that can't break through. I think Josh Smillie fits their list profile far better.
Similarly, I don't see why St Kilda would draft Josh Smillie. Their list is pretty stuffed with taller midfield types, they need more pace rather than strength.
Saints for mine should be utilising Sinclair and Nas off the flanks and dropping Windhager from a tagging role and get him around the pill
“If Jack works out…”? Jack Whitlock won’t play any senior footy for 2 years at a minimum, so the argument he’d make our forward line better would apply from 2027!!!
Finn wont be going to tiges itll be eithe jagga smith or lalor
I trust Cal who reckons it's down to Finn or Sam, Picks 1 & 2 get them both
Not a fan of finn, clumsy player not clean with the ball like draper or jagga, to me Carlton need explosive speed = jagga or drapes yeh , check out drapes in the sanfl reminds me of sam Mitchell type player. plus look how the camp brothers play so well with him.
Surely Essendon finds a way to bring in Shanahan after the Kako bid
I hope so!
Perhaps they'll use Melbourne's Future first? 🤔
@@allenterry8614 Who do Essendon put more faith in to rise? Melbourne or Essendon? haha.. We'll know by who's pick they use to trade into this draft lol
@nathanmancusi2766 Yes, it will be very interesting indeed. TBH I think other teams will think Melbourne's would be the bigger carrot. But depends what pick they're chasing i suppose. Either way I hope we're able to pic up a great addition to the team.
I would have thought pick 2 for 6 , 18 or 20 would be fair. To add pick 10 you would want norths future 1. I believe they are open to trading their f1
North isn't trading their F1 for #10. I agree Richmond won't give three first round picks up for #2, but they will be very interested in #2 to have full control over who they get with their first two picks. The first six in this draft are supposed to be superior to the rest and #6 will get you the 7th pick at best.
@@gustaaf1892 north has brought in some experienced players and with another preseason under the belt of their young stars you don’t think they could finish higher on the ladder to justify pick 10 probably 15 to 13. Your not trading pick 10 in this year’s draft to get pick 10 in next year’s draft, at worst you would want pick 6 in what is considered a worse draft than this year’s. Also you’re taking the risk of North doing a Hawthorn and ending up with a pick in the teens!
@@seantayler5418 North should improve considerably, but the gap with the clubs above West Coast was very considerable. Adelaide should improve and whilst Melbourne could go backwards, they had 8 more wins than North last season. The bookies would probably have North finish 3rd last. North's first pick in 2025 will most likely be a top 3 pick and at worst top 5. I think North's goal should be to win 8 games, but I have been significantly overestimating their likely number of wins for the last two years. Btw, there are already rumours that the top end of next year's draft is better than this year.
I see Essendon trying to trade back into the draft after kako bid to get shanahan
I agree!
Why wouldn’t stkilda bid on Lombard straight after kako
They probably do but judging by this comment section, if that's the complaint I'm taking it 😂
Tigers not trading up for pick 2. No need in this super draft
Damn, these Richmond fans really didn't like your trade suggestion, talk about an over reaction
😂😂 that's alright
I would love Bo or berry for freo
jagga will go to tigers i am sure tigers will go for pick 2 but probably for picks 10 and 18 the draft is very even all top 30 will walk into sides next year
All of the top 30 will not walk into sides next year, the 2001 draft is the best of all time and still had players not work out, let's not get crazy with expectations
doesnt the esgles have pick 12 and port have pick 13?
Three picks get knocked back because of Ashcroft/Kako/Lombard bids
I doubt tigers would go 6 and 10 for 2. more like 2 for 6 and 24.
8 & 14 was the last time it happened, why would it be less in a better draft?
I'd say because it is such a good draft the Tigers will give 6 and 18 for north's 2 . If North don't want to accept that I doubt it would phase the Tigers.
Also WestCoast will be doing a trade with either Giants or Tigers to move back into the first round with a combination of futures .
Havent you got another channel coming?
I sure do mate, Daz Talks Horror!
id be pretty disappointed if the Dogs didnt take Hannaford or Hynes.
That's more than fair
@@daztalksfooty good mock draft but mate
Who do hawks get around 34?
With this iteration of the mock draft, Tom Gross is high up there. Archer Day-Wicks could be another. I'm high on Zak Johnson but I wonder if a mid is the way to go. Is it all feasible that the Hawks take a ruck and go for a Kayle Gerryn or Tom Sims?
Jack Ough is on the radar as a def/mid but the list isn't lacking for a lot tbh
Whoa, whoa whoa!!!
Can you explain why Bo Allen is a really good fit for Fremantle? I mean even a tangential hint of why.
He isn't getting a game in the backline or the midfield. You suggested he can play wing in an evidence free throw away comment, and ignoring that it will isn't an area of need with Sharp and O'Driscoll yet to reach their prime.
I feel like most draftees don't walk straight into the best 23 of whichever side drafts them.
@@BigCatinBKK sure, I agree. Allen projects as one of the most ready to go players in the draft In our current midfield we have both Johnson and Erasmus holding their breath until Fyfe retires plus we have Brodie with 2 more years on his contract.
I'm not a fan of bringing in first round picks and not having some kind of development pathway for them Erasmus is a case in point: best player this year in the WAFL and best in the WAFL Grand final, but can't get a game at the top level.
Travaglia, Lyndsay, Berry, Hannaford: all hit areas of actual need for us. Pace, skills, forward impact.
But Allen is a very decent prospect.
@@Pak_Gigit If Allen is considered the best available at Freo's pick, I don't think any of this would be an obstacle to picking him. There's also no reason he couldn't start on a HBF.
@@BigCatinBKK what he said was Allen is a really good fit, not that he is best available. I don't think he is either a good fit, nor is he best available.
I think it is around the top of Allen's range IF a club believes he transitions into the midfield. And midfield is not an area we need someone of his type We have depth there who cannot get an opportunity. Erasmus, Johnson and Brodie, with only Fyfe looking to exit. O'Meara can't get a go there. We need players who will impact forward of centre with speed, football IQ and good delivery.
@@Pak_Gigit Yeah, I don't reckon any of that is a reason to overlook Allan.
As a port Adelaide supporter, i would rather Bo Allan or Taj Hotton over Joe Berry.
Taj was a big consideration
@@daztalksfooty Fair enough, do u see the power splitting pick 13, getting back 19,22 from the swans?
As a WCE fan would take Tobie over Bo any day of the week
Good work, not many holes in that. But .... who can we get at 33
Still plenty of good options on the board... wouldn't hate Tom Gross tbh
@@daztalksfooty I like the look of him. Could Hamish Davis slip through?
Disagree with them letting 3 picks go 2 at the most but it wont be 6 or 10 either
8 & 14 was the last deal in a lesser draft pool, surely North make them pay up?
The tin rattling tigers, scream “save our skins” in one of the most overrated drafts in recent memory. What a shit year to have 8 first round picks. Be trading for pick 2 in a heart beat. I’d give up 3 inside the 18 to get it done. The top 5 are guaranteed 200+ gamers. The rest are a gamble.
Ehhhh. I don’t love it, I’m still sooking since west coast have pretty much traded out of this draft, but I’m questioning a few if these picks. Nothing against it, I just feel like a few of them Richmond picks should be smaller, mids and forwards.
I know west coast delisted witherdern, but I’m completely against picking travallia if Allan is still on the table. I’m big on him being that dash off half back, his got a big body too, something the eagles are really going to lack down there after gov, if he developed into a third tall back man, something to replace rotham with would be another ideal scenario. I liked it when they were playing him down there in the peel colours, he looked really composed down there. It gives me Daniel curtin vibes, I know west coast were looking to trade up out of this year to try and acquire him, and we still haven’t found that guy. 🤷♂️
You want to play Allan forward?
@@Pak_Gigit back sorry 😅 third tall back 👍
Rotham actually has made it official a few minutes ago he won’t be receiving another contract.
@@rileyulegend130 I get the appeal of Allen, but Travaglia has a lot more class.
I lost all interest when taj went 1 pick before the dogs. Hes the player dogs need. If we dont get him, the trade for smith looks even worse
Sorry to disappoint my friend! He would be an amazing fit
Carlton will take Draper it’s the only reason why they traded up above the us I’d rather draft Smith or Lalor because both have higher ceilings. Laird Crouch Smith and Murphy all should be banished to SANFL also Laird and Crouch should have been traded this trade period.
Definitely was hard to separate Jagga & Draper
Higher ceilings? I reckon you're dreaming, champ. Is this a way of coping?
You have NFI
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Sydney will choke at this draft as they have the previous 3, and continue to recruit small, obscure half backs that don’t play a game … 😂
Do you hate Richmond?
Not in the slightest, contrary to everyone's opinions 😂😂
Nah you done fucked up. You don't pick Bo for eagles who need big mids but do for freo who have too many big mids and plenty of half backs. So how is he a really good fit?! lol.
Freo would pick Lindsay over Allan IMO.
He wouldn't be a mid though. Would start at a point across the square so for the Dockers, he wouldn't need to start straight away and could slot on a wing or HF.
Not every 1st round pick needs to play Rd 1