4 valves per cylinder with dual overhead camshafts, aluminum heads and a turbo in the valley, this is truly advanced for a diesel. I think it's wonderful!
ImAFLying Cactus except for the fact that Isuzu did all of that except for the DOHC with the Duramax 14 years ago but yeah besides that totally advanced.
Aaron Davis Isuzu and GM still use push rod engines with interchangeable parts from engines of the 1970's, yeah very advanced indeed. Start up a Duramax diesel in -20 degree F weather and crank the wheel hard, it will blow off the power steering lines. GM was 30 years behind the curve when the Duramax was released. Today they are 40 years behind the curve.
inline whine You do realize that I've started my Duramax in -20 F temps right? It starts up just fine. I think Cummins makes fine motors, far from the best though. I am questioning your knowledge about diesels because when the Duramax was released it was the only one offered by the big 3 to have a common rail fuel system, the only v8 to have 4 valves per cylinder, and the only one to have the turbo situated in the valley. I'd bet money you've never owned a diesel.
Do I spot a pissing contest? Duramax are great running engines no doubt, but how much does it cost to have work done to one? I've worked in the agricultural and construction industry long enough to know simplicity=reliability and lower operating cost. The better performance isn't worth it to me, I don't want a V8 diesel of any brand.
No more than it does to have work done on a Cummins ISB in a pick up chassis. A friend of mine just had to put a motor in his 2009 Ram with the 6.7 and it rang up at just over $12,000 dollars. A 01-10 duramax can get a motor for around $7,000. The cp3 is in the front of the valley right where you can get to it and the turbo is in the back. The only problem with working on them is Isuzu likes to put bolts in some weird places and can be a pain at times. If you think a 6.7 is any simpler to work on than any other diesel on the market at the moment, you have no clue what you're talking about.
For people challenged by English the name is Cummins NOT Cummings. The company was started in Columbus, IN by Clessie Cummins. The new Toyota engine is being built at the factory in Columbus by US union labor, I saw where the engine will be built this May on my trip to Columbus.
So does that mean that my 06 Ram cummins 5.9 IL Turbo Diesel engine will be even more sought- after since these new more complicated engines enter the market? I love the simplicity and reliability of my Six in line 5.9. Cummins.
All these people who don't know anything worrying about timing chains. What a wonderful, beautiful turbo diesel. Amazing to drive too. Love my titan XD. Wish I could find the OEM cad drawings for it though. I really want to build a race car around the ISV but it would be nice to have real dimensions to base the frame off of.
Cummins first started introducing DEF in 2010 for 2011 MY vehicles, especially larger engines. It's Chrysler that used EPA credits to not introduce DEF in Cummins vehicles until MY 2013.
I know we see a few things that we probably wouldn’t prefer but man I totally back Cummins and their engineers they put a lot of time and energy into developing a product I have their generator in my fifth wheel and I have their generator as my home back up and my 2018 Dodge has the Cummins
I think everybody is now in agreement that not having a really good engine brake was a flaw in the masterplan. My opinion is the team should have been able to claim "5.0L Cummins with the best engine brake every produced."
Oooh, Cummins makes some of the best diesels in the world. The 12V is probably the best and most reliable engine ever put in a pickup. Now, I'm no engineer, but do all those long timing chains bother anyone else? I see a lot of chances for catastrophic failure with tensioners, sliders, and broken chains. I'll be surprised if these live half as long as a I6 cummins,
Your right, the weakest link looks like the timing chain. It must've been cheaper than gear drive/ beveled cam driveshafts. Expensive, possibly catastrophic engine failures result. Usually as soon as the warranty us up...
yeah ross mcclure.they bother me too. as soon as i saw them my eyes popped open..........i have rebuilt many NH.NTC. NTA ETC and they all have gears......to me this is more than bothersome,,,,,,it's disappointing.....i love CUMMINS.
Aaron Humphrey The chains were chosen because they produce significantly less NVH than gear drive systems. The unfortunate trade off is poor long term durability. Not that it should matter, modern emissions Diesel engines are a money pit anyway. Unless you’re a commercial driver you cannot justify the additional cost to run a diesel as opposed to a gas engine today. The repair costs on emissions diesels are so astronomical that it’s cheaper to pump gas into a big V-8 . That’s why Ford has introduced their pushrod 7.3 big block gas engine for 2020. You can replace a whole gas V-8 for what it’ll cost if your high pressure injection pump takes a dump on these newer Diesel engines.
Also, small diesel engine are beginning to appear, like the chevy cruze diesel. If a suv is your flavor, try looking at the ford excursion. Or search up the 'DuraBurb' Suburban with a Duramax engine swap. An engine swap can be really easy or quite tough, depending on what the combination is. For example, the B model cummins will easily fit in a ford ranger, but not so in say, pontiac sunfire. Big Oil doesn't care if its Dino or Bio, as long as they can sell lots of it.
I have a 2013, definitely has a DEF tank... some interesting things about this 5.0 vs the 5.9/6.7... the 5.0 has glow plugs where the 5.9/6.7 do not; they rely solely on a grid heater. the 5.0 is an overhead cam engine where the 5.9/6.7 are pushrod engines. 500+lb-ft of torque is nothing to sneeze out so lets see what Nissan has for a transmission...
dual overhead cams driven by the intake camshaft, very similar to toyotas 1uzfe but with a chain. I like it, please install it in the tundra or ram 1500, the new 3.0 diesel is nice but I like v8 diesels
Talking to guys with 160000km on their titan xd diesels. Turned out to not be that bad of an engine. I have also seen nothing reported about issues with timing chains. Zero. I have seen broken crankshafts (two by same owner at 110000 miles each) .. bad fuel systems and def systems .. harnesses that cause injectors to kill motor’s. And other issues.. but not a single about timing chains
There is a reason why the stopped putting V style Detroits in Trucks and buses. Not saying they are junk by any means at all. I do however feel inline engines last longer.
Also "V" configuration engines produce same horsepower in a smaller physical size than inline engines, not as "long". A lot of prime movers now use turbo-diesel V6's, especially Mercedes Actross.
not only that they are better balanced,and have stiffer block,and much more simple the older 6bt 12 valve Cummings is simple,reliable and parts are cheap ,no overhead cames riding on no bearings just aluminum caps the 6bt 12 valve if properly maintained will run forever,the loggers use them every day and I know some that are still running great for over 15 years 10 to 12 hours a day 5 and 6 days a week. and you can buy a rebuild kit on ebay for 750.00 including pistons,ask yourself why do the germans use inline engines in there cars ,bmw,mercedes,audi. they last, a six has 7 main bearings. the Nissan Cummings will be good ,but it will be be very costly to maintain. I LIKE SIMPLE AND RELIABLE
That mostly depends on bore:stroke . The Cummins B series, and a lot of I6 engines (gas or diesel) have long strokes because the design of inline engines naturally allows more piston travel than a V engine. As far as the sound, that is 101% opinion so that is even more invalid than your first reason.
I agree it would be a better fit for the Ram when it comes to image, but Ram put the Ecodiesel in it because it is more economical. They wanted at least 26 mpg highway, while the Cummins in their math only could make 24-25. 27 Highway MPG is why Ram chose the VM Motori.
@ Samuel Jones: Because they produce more "horsepower" which is the best method for a small-displacement engine. I wish Toyota designed a Commonrail injection system for their 1HZ 4.2 inline 6cylinder, but they decided to scrap the idea totally to adopt the petrol V8 and the Cummins TDV8. All comes down to cost. One day GM will own the vehicle industry and all the engines out will be only a select few powering multiple array of vehcile models.
good luck with the timing chain... also good idea putting two stage turbos with a waste gate I'm sure caterpillar and international would agree with your decision
I bet it will produce 300+ hp and 500+ torque and give the Titan much better fuel economy Dodge was forced to use a foreign fiat engine due to being fully a foreign owned .
For those of you who are illiterate, this is an extremely light diesel v8. For what it can't make in power it makes up for in weight. They weigh(correct me if I'm wrong) around 900 pounds. Now that's extremely lightweight for a 5 liter quad cam turbocharged v8. I have extreme faith that this engine will surpass all expectations and will surprise the aftermarket with the power it's capable of.
its not for chrysler its going in the new nissan truck. plans between dodge-ram and cummins fell through for a half ton truck with a smaller diesel back in 2008. nissan has now scored the deal and ram is using an Italian diesel.
Typiccally a V8 will be 100 to 200LBS. lighter on average than a Straight 6 counterpart. The reason Chevrolet dumped the stove bolt in place for the now 60 year production small black. I can comfortably predict Cummins will opt to produce larger V8 engines just because they are more flexible. The I6 days are numbered.
Why isn't there more small diesel technology in the USA?? Without having to build my own, I want a medium sized, super-economical diesel SUV that can be run cleanly on peanut oil or veggie the oil the way it was designed to run. I want an 800cc TDI motorcycle that gets 100mpg. I'd pay well for items like that. Big Oil doesn't want bio-diesel though.
The only way a v6 gets more power than a v8 is through boost via turbo charger or super charger or both in some cases. Which is hard on an engine. There is no replacement for displacement.
In my case I have a 6 BT Cummins it is very competative in HP and Torque and definitely longer lived than the V8s Ford and GM are using. I had a 6.9l IH V8 engine. For its two extra cylinders and one extra litre of displacement it made 80 less HP than the Cummins.
william davidson 6.9 IHC diesels were NOT turbo charged...how can you compare an old engine, to a newer turbo diesel Those 5.9 Cummins before turbos were also a SLUG....geeeese...
gtalover139 In-line engines give better torque characteristics than V engines do because the rotational power cycle is more balanced. In today's world there is a replacement for displacement. They are called turbo chargers and superchargers which are capable of making smaller engines perform as well or better than their naturally aspirated bigger competitors. I think it's dumb they made this a V8. A 3L to 4L V6 in a half ton pickup would have been more practical but WE Americans are to one track closed minded at times to think outside the box.
one thing that scares me is timming chains on both frount and back if this engine is a zero talorance engine one timeing chain breaks the whole engine is trashed
matt phillips Why would you buy a 45k truck and not maintain the engine? Every engine has maintenance schedules timing chains are more durable then belts. A belt will easily go 100k at twice the average rpm of a diesel. If someone breaks a chain at 750k miles because they didn't have it checked at 500k miles then that is their own fault.
Whose 6.7? Ford "Boss" or Cummnis? The 6.7 Cummins is a larger displacement engine with more power, more electronics, and worse fuel economy, does not require the DPF additive. it's an I6. The Boss 6.7 is produced in-house by Ford, more power (also more power on paper than Cummins 6.7), more electronics worse fuel economy, requires the dpf additive, V8. Hope that helps, I'm no expert.
clearly you're not an expert... DPF additive?? You mean Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF)? Well, the Cummins 6.7L has been using DEF since 2010... what you say?? Yes, the 2010 Dodge/Ram Cab and Chassis trucks used an SCR system. Now, the 2013 Ram Trucks use a similar but different SCR system.
LOL!! timing chains!?!?!?! REALLY!?!!? ill be extremely surprised if they do not become an issue, every single over head cam engine with timing chains that long have issue with timing and wear, and timing is extreamely important to a diesel engine
Running veggie oil is no good for modern diesels... old mechanical injection engines can take it... but modern diesel injectors have such tight tolerances and tiny internal passages and valves. The home made fuels lack the lubricity and heat resistance qualities that proper fuel has. When these components are not lubricated, they fail easily. Take the diesel Smart car; to replace a damaged fuel system is $5000 in parts alone.
what I want to know is, why is dodge opting for the fiat v6 , when they could have had this engine, especially considering their long time relationship with cummins? smh
The 5.9 was my favorite and is missed by many Cummins fans.
4 valves per cylinder with dual overhead camshafts, aluminum heads and a turbo in the valley, this is truly advanced for a diesel. I think it's wonderful!
ImAFLying Cactus except for the fact that Isuzu did all of that except for the DOHC with the Duramax 14 years ago but yeah besides that totally advanced.
Aaron Davis Isuzu and GM still use push rod engines with interchangeable parts from engines of the 1970's, yeah very advanced indeed. Start up a Duramax diesel in -20 degree F weather and crank the wheel hard, it will blow off the power steering lines. GM was 30 years behind the curve when the Duramax was released. Today they are 40 years behind the curve.
inline whine You do realize that I've started my Duramax in -20 F temps right? It starts up just fine. I think Cummins makes fine motors, far from the best though. I am questioning your knowledge about diesels because when the Duramax was released it was the only one offered by the big 3 to have a common rail fuel system, the only v8 to have 4 valves per cylinder, and the only one to have the turbo situated in the valley. I'd bet money you've never owned a diesel.
Do I spot a pissing contest? Duramax are great running engines no doubt, but how much does it cost to have work done to one? I've worked in the agricultural and construction industry long enough to know simplicity=reliability and lower operating cost. The better performance isn't worth it to me, I don't want a V8 diesel of any brand.
No more than it does to have work done on a Cummins ISB in a pick up chassis. A friend of mine just had to put a motor in his 2009 Ram with the 6.7 and it rang up at just over $12,000 dollars. A 01-10 duramax can get a motor for around $7,000. The cp3 is in the front of the valley right where you can get to it and the turbo is in the back. The only problem with working on them is Isuzu likes to put bolts in some weird places and can be a pain at times. If you think a 6.7 is any simpler to work on than any other diesel on the market at the moment, you have no clue what you're talking about.
For people challenged by English the name is Cummins NOT Cummings. The company was started in Columbus, IN by Clessie Cummins. The new Toyota engine is being built at the factory in Columbus by US union labor, I saw where the engine will be built this May on my trip to Columbus.
I have this engine in my 2016 Titan xd and I absolutely love it
Whoever made this video is a champion. I love it! :)
A cummins sempre revolucionaria, agora nesse seguimento de pickaps!!!
So does that mean that my 06 Ram cummins 5.9 IL Turbo Diesel engine will be even more sought- after since these new more complicated engines enter the market?
I love the simplicity and reliability of my Six in line 5.9. Cummins.
This engine is proof that all the old stuff was the good stuff
Like I keep telling people technology went back in time. Imagine if they kept improving on the 5.9 and N14 Cummins.
They did keep improving the 5.9.... it's called the isb6.7
The N14 became the X15
All these people who don't know anything worrying about timing chains.
What a wonderful, beautiful turbo diesel. Amazing to drive too. Love my titan XD. Wish I could find the OEM cad drawings for it though. I really want to build a race car around the ISV but it would be nice to have real dimensions to base the frame off of.
Tell that to all AUDI diesel owers
Cummins first started introducing DEF in 2010 for 2011 MY vehicles, especially larger engines. It's Chrysler that used EPA credits to not introduce DEF in Cummins vehicles until MY 2013.
Cummins version of the 6.0 powerstroke
I know we see a few things that we probably wouldn’t prefer but man I totally back Cummins and their engineers they put a lot of time and energy into developing a product I have their generator in my fifth wheel and I have their generator as my home back up and my 2018 Dodge has the Cummins
I think everybody is now in agreement that not having a really good engine brake was a flaw in the masterplan. My opinion is the team should have been able to claim "5.0L Cummins with the best engine brake every produced."
Oooh, Cummins makes some of the best diesels in the world. The 12V is probably the best and most reliable engine ever put in a pickup. Now, I'm no engineer, but do all those long timing chains bother anyone else? I see a lot of chances for catastrophic failure with tensioners, sliders, and broken chains. I'll be surprised if these live half as long as a I6 cummins,
Your right, the weakest link looks like the timing chain. It must've been cheaper than gear drive/ beveled cam driveshafts. Expensive, possibly catastrophic engine failures result. Usually as soon as the warranty us up...
yeah ross mcclure.they bother me too. as soon as i saw them my eyes popped open..........i have rebuilt many NH.NTC. NTA ETC and they all have gears......to me this is more than bothersome,,,,,,it's disappointing.....i love CUMMINS.
Aaron Humphrey The chains were chosen because they produce significantly less NVH than gear drive systems. The unfortunate trade off is poor long term durability. Not that it should matter, modern emissions Diesel engines are a money pit anyway. Unless you’re a commercial driver you cannot justify the additional cost to run a diesel as opposed to a gas engine today. The repair costs on emissions diesels are so astronomical that it’s cheaper to pump gas into a big V-8 . That’s why Ford has introduced their pushrod 7.3 big block gas engine for 2020.
You can replace a whole gas V-8 for what it’ll cost if your high pressure injection pump takes a dump on these newer Diesel engines.
That turbo placement... mechanics nightmare
I Hope it has a 9th fuel injector for regeneration mode to keep the oil quality stable and make it B20 friendly
Also, small diesel engine are beginning to appear, like the chevy cruze diesel. If a suv is your flavor, try looking at the ford excursion. Or search up the 'DuraBurb' Suburban with a Duramax engine swap. An engine swap can be really easy or quite tough, depending on what the combination is. For example, the B model cummins will easily fit in a ford ranger, but not so in say, pontiac sunfire. Big Oil doesn't care if its Dino or Bio, as long as they can sell lots of it.
whats with the T4 style up-pipe connection? vband all the way!!!
about time cummins...
I have a 2013, definitely has a DEF tank...
some interesting things about this 5.0 vs the 5.9/6.7... the 5.0 has glow plugs where the 5.9/6.7 do not; they rely solely on a grid heater.
the 5.0 is an overhead cam engine where the 5.9/6.7 are pushrod engines.
500+lb-ft of torque is nothing to sneeze out so lets see what Nissan has for a transmission...
I wish the Ford F-series had Cummins engines in them, if they did I'd definitely buy one..Chrysler just isn't my thing
Yes man
dual overhead cams driven by the intake camshaft, very similar to toyotas 1uzfe but with a chain. I like it, please install it in the tundra or ram 1500, the new 3.0 diesel is nice but I like v8 diesels
Talking to guys with 160000km on their titan xd diesels. Turned out to not be that bad of an engine. I have also seen nothing reported about issues with timing chains. Zero. I have seen broken crankshafts (two by same owner at 110000 miles each) .. bad fuel systems and def systems .. harnesses that cause injectors to kill motor’s. And other issues.. but not a single about timing chains
When will Cummins make a small displacement 3-4l diesel for ram instead of fiat?
How does this compare with the current inline sixes? Is this a lighter engine?
There is a reason why the stopped putting V style Detroits in Trucks and buses. Not saying they are junk by any means at all. I do however feel inline engines last longer.
Also "V" configuration engines produce same horsepower in a smaller physical size than inline engines, not as "long". A lot of prime movers now use turbo-diesel V6's, especially Mercedes Actross.
not only that they are better balanced,and have stiffer block,and much more simple the older 6bt 12 valve Cummings is simple,reliable and parts are cheap ,no overhead cames riding on no bearings just aluminum caps the 6bt 12 valve if properly maintained will run forever,the loggers use them every day and I know some that are still running great for over 15 years 10 to 12 hours a day 5 and 6 days a week. and you can buy a rebuild kit on ebay for 750.00 including pistons,ask yourself why do the germans use inline engines in there cars ,bmw,mercedes,audi. they last, a six has 7 main bearings. the Nissan Cummings will be good ,but it will be be very costly to maintain. I LIKE SIMPLE AND RELIABLE
OMG dude! Cummins....Your opinion is immediately discredited the moment you cannot spell the manufacturers name.
who do you think makes the small displacement diesels for cummins? ford. They have owned that division for years
cummins has been working with def since 2010
what transmission will be on this engine and how much will it cost for both with turbo package on the nissan. I want to put it in another vehicle.
That mostly depends on bore:stroke . The Cummins B series, and a lot of I6 engines (gas or diesel) have long strokes because the design of inline engines naturally allows more piston travel than a V engine. As far as the sound, that is 101% opinion so that is even more invalid than your first reason.
I agree it would be a better fit for the Ram when it comes to image, but Ram put the Ecodiesel in it because it is more economical. They wanted at least 26 mpg highway, while the Cummins in their math only could make 24-25. 27 Highway MPG is why Ram chose the VM Motori.
@ Samuel Jones: Because they produce more "horsepower" which is the best method for a small-displacement engine. I wish Toyota designed a Commonrail injection system for their 1HZ 4.2 inline 6cylinder, but they decided to scrap the idea totally to adopt the petrol V8 and the Cummins TDV8. All comes down to cost. One day GM will own the vehicle industry and all the engines out will be only a select few powering multiple array of vehcile models.
Will this engine have an exhaust brake?
When will this be in production
who cares,,,you couldn't give me one of these,,,,,,,,,,not with a timing chain waiting to break.
How so?
That they are.
inline 6 the very best..
good luck with the timing chain... also good idea putting two stage turbos with a waste gate I'm sure caterpillar and international would agree with your decision
4 cyl cummins very good
I want to hear it!
+1 need to here this thing for sure
will it have DEF on that engine
What Difference vs a 5.9L or 6.7L
yes, DEF. I thought it wasn't "introduced" yet in the cummins. Thanks!
This engine is going in the new line of Nissan Titans......
Surprised to see a timing chain. Interesting.
I bet it will produce 300+ hp and 500+ torque and give the Titan much better fuel economy
Dodge was forced to use a foreign fiat engine due to being fully a foreign owned .
Bs they still have the 6.7 Cummins turbo diesel engine.
2013 is the first year for the Cummins to use DEF.
For those of you who are illiterate, this is an extremely light diesel v8. For what it can't make in power it makes up for in weight. They weigh(correct me if I'm wrong) around 900 pounds. Now that's extremely lightweight for a 5 liter quad cam turbocharged v8. I have extreme faith that this engine will surpass all expectations and will surprise the aftermarket with the power it's capable of.
🤔 5 years later. What are your thoughts now?
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I-6 vs V-8?
You would have thought dodge would have came out with the 5.0L cummins first in the 2500.
Fiat owns dodge, so that's why they opted for the Fiat 3.0 diesel
Really I thought chrysler owned dodge or do they both do?
Fiat paid $4.3 billion for 41.46% of Chrysler, enough to make sure they use the fiat diesel in the ram 1500
Really wow well thanks for letting me know.
Even though the cummins name alone on the truck probably would have sold more of them. We'll see how reliable the fiat v6 diesel is soon enough.
Is it an interference engine?
Ill keep my 12 valve!
I've only got 532,451 miles on mine
its not for chrysler its going in the new nissan truck. plans between dodge-ram and cummins fell through for a half ton truck with a smaller diesel back in 2008. nissan has now scored the deal and ram is using an Italian diesel.
no inlines have more bottom end torque but less hp on the top end. has where a v8 will produce more hp and top end.
That’s the engine that Nissan Titan currently has 5.0 V8
This ISV5.0 Cummins will be the best engine in the half ton truck segment, Ford, Ram and GM trucks got nothing on this bad boy!!!
Yeah. Us Ram owners have the 6.7 Cummins bud.
DieselRiver I said half ton, Ram has the 3.0L Ecodiesel in that segment.
How so?
DieselRiver Different class engine.
sale Hillal
555tq @ 1600 rpm that is by far tops in the 1/2 ton segment
Typiccally a V8 will be 100 to 200LBS. lighter on average than a Straight 6 counterpart. The reason Chevrolet dumped the stove bolt in place for the now 60 year production small black. I can comfortably predict Cummins will opt to produce larger V8 engines just because they are more flexible. The I6 days are numbered.
cummins offers engines in ford f-650's and above
Hmm, interesting..thanks for the info! I like Nissan so I'll have to check that out
All the diesel manufactures now use diesel exhaust fluid
All the manufactures now use diesel exhaust fluid
Why isn't there more small diesel technology in the USA?? Without having to build my own, I want a medium sized, super-economical diesel SUV that can be run cleanly on peanut oil or veggie the oil the way it was designed to run. I want an 800cc TDI motorcycle that gets 100mpg. I'd pay well for items like that. Big Oil doesn't want bio-diesel though.
correction 300+hp and 550+ trq
Toyota and Nissan both have great 6 cyl diesels, but we americans have been brainwashed to believe that you need a V-8 to have any power.
The only way a v6 gets more power than a v8 is through boost via turbo charger or super charger or both in some cases. Which is hard on an engine. There is no replacement for displacement.
In my case I have a 6 BT Cummins it is very competative in HP and Torque and definitely longer lived than the V8s Ford and GM are using. I had a 6.9l IH V8 engine. For its two extra cylinders and one extra litre of displacement it made 80 less HP than the Cummins.
Right, I misread your first comment. With diesels I agree inline 6 is the way to go. With gas I like a naturally aspirated v8.
william davidson 6.9 IHC diesels were NOT turbo charged...how can you compare an old engine, to a newer turbo diesel Those 5.9 Cummins before turbos were also a SLUG....geeeese...
gtalover139 In-line engines give better torque characteristics than V engines do because the rotational power cycle is more balanced. In today's world there is a replacement for displacement. They are called turbo chargers and superchargers which are capable of making smaller engines perform as well or better than their naturally aspirated bigger competitors. I think it's dumb they made this a V8. A 3L to 4L V6 in a half ton pickup would have been more practical but WE Americans are to one track closed minded at times to think outside the box.
one thing that scares me is timming chains on both frount and back if this engine is a zero talorance engine one timeing chain breaks the whole engine is trashed
matt phillips Why would you buy a 45k truck and not maintain the engine? Every engine has maintenance schedules timing chains are more durable then belts. A belt will easily go 100k at twice the average rpm of a diesel. If someone breaks a chain at 750k miles because they didn't have it checked at 500k miles then that is their own fault.
all it takes is fulty chain a and boom the people that work on the are only human and do miss things
and the fact that to get to 2 them chains belts are on the back the engine the engine is most likely going to have to come out to check or change
It's scary for people who wanna try doing performance stuff to them for sure.
Why why why are they using timing chains. Come on cummins!!
v8 is a light duty engine NOT compare with the 5.9 or 6.7 perhaps more hp on papers, but in reality , WAIT AND SEE!!!!
Ford does not own any part of Cummins nor does Ford make engines for Cummins.
morden high pressure fuel system that diesel use to meet epa emissions will fail on straight veggie oil or peanut oil.
Probably heavier, its got 2 more cylinders to enforce.
I need to put that in the new Ford F 150
Supposed to be in the 2015 Nissan Titan
Whose 6.7? Ford "Boss" or Cummnis? The 6.7 Cummins is a larger displacement engine with more power, more electronics, and worse fuel economy, does not require the DPF additive. it's an I6. The Boss 6.7 is produced in-house by Ford, more power (also more power on paper than Cummins 6.7), more electronics worse fuel economy, requires the dpf additive, V8. Hope that helps, I'm no expert.
clearly you're not an expert... DPF additive?? You mean Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF)? Well, the Cummins 6.7L has been using DEF since 2010... what you say?? Yes, the 2010 Dodge/Ram Cab and Chassis trucks used an SCR system. Now, the 2013 Ram Trucks use a similar but different SCR system.
Duramax.....Cummins version?????
inline six engines do last longer because there is no gravitational wear on the cylinder walls.
rubbish v engines of same displacement will always make more power and last longer as well as save weight
Only Cummins engine where you can't easily find the length x width x height. Wonder why.
I6 is a workhorse.
Ummm imagine the tunes :)
sadly though inline diesel engines will always be more reliable with half the parts not to mention easier to work on
Glad to see the 5.9 and 6.7 are still reigning engine models. Nissan didn't pull through.
The better cummins,together nissan
LOL!! timing chains!?!?!?! REALLY!?!!? ill be extremely surprised if they do not become an issue, every single over head cam engine with timing chains that long have issue with timing and wear, and timing is extreamely important to a diesel engine
Can someone tell me why diesel's do a nanananananana sound
they do but there kinda unreliable due to the higher emissions.
i'll pass i prefer timing gears instead of 3 timing chains that will stretch over time
no better yet keep the ram 1500 with the 3.0 vm motori diesel the 2500 with this cummins 5.0, and the 3500's with the 6.7 inline 6
you dont have as much torque an horsepower as you get with a I6 an plus an I6 sounds alot meaner then any V8 ever will
I like the idea of a v8 cummins but I don't like the fact that its going in a Nissan Titan. I mean really.
Running veggie oil is no good for modern diesels... old mechanical injection engines can take it... but modern diesel injectors have such tight tolerances and tiny internal passages and valves. The home made fuels lack the lubricity and heat resistance qualities that proper fuel has. When these components are not lubricated, they fail easily. Take the diesel Smart car; to replace a damaged fuel system is $5000 in parts alone.
why Cummins why
no more DEF
Cummins needs to stick with there inline . it makes them diffrent from the others .
now the nissans and yota pick ups will be diesel -___-
what I want to know is, why is dodge opting for the fiat v6 , when they could have had this engine, especially considering their long time relationship with cummins? smh
Dodge wouldn't have come out with a Cummins anything,…Cummins comes out with Cummins. lol Anyways,…2 people have a power stroke.
can't wait to see what banks does with it