Will It Run? Bought a Honda Ruckus Chinese Clone 50cc Scooter for only $200 bucks! GY6 139QMB
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- Today on Praska Boys Garage my buddy Justin stopped by with his 50cc Icebear scooter. It is a Honda Ruckus clone! Very cool little scooter that we have some big plans for. Thanks for watching and I hope you enjoy the video.
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I have been buying 50 and 150cc Chinese specials to ride and play with, I have got scooters just like yours where they didnt start, Im new at troubleshooting but all the way through the video I was spot on, troubleshooting exactly what you did until you pulled the engine apart and fixed the valve, so I learned much more from this video, thanks for the logical tutorial and keep it up
I never understood why people "fix" these engines. I.e. if you bent the valves you'd get a new one and install it in the old head. The a complete head for gy6 is $18 and to fix the old one is going to take at least an hour. So unless you're paying your mechanics $9 an hour it's cheaper to just replace the whole head
First time ever commenting on TH-cam. I love your videos. You are so real and genuine. I wish you had more time to do more videos. I understand stand it’s hard work to make and edit especially with a young family. Love to see you playing with the kids. Go Packers!!!!!
Wow, thank you so much! This single comment is so spot on it's crazy! I truly wish I had more time to film and upload but your right, it's tough with my current work schedule and family life. Appreciate you taking the time to comment!
Best way to start Saturday!
Thanks Jesse!
Awesome man, I'm bad in mechanic but I love your vids !
So satisfying to see you restoring stuff !!
Glad you enjoy it! Thanks for watching!
Finished my 2 110ccs thank to this channel amazing content
Great to hear David! Thanks for watching!
Love your videos dude, nice seeing a fellow Iowan making good videos.
Hey thanks Peter, good to hear from you!
This is what i have been waiting for, another project. 👏
Appreciate that brother!
Praska Boy's Garage Any time
B.J.
Two summers ago a friend of mine brought one of these to me to see if I could make it go faster. I put a 150cc cylinder and piston and did some other upgrades. The thing is now fast as hell. The only problem is the battery does not seem strong enough to turn over the engine now.
Great work as always man.
Thanks Tom! I am brand new to the scooter world! I have always focused on working with toys my kids could ride, but this time we are taking a little time to work on stuff for our inner child! Cant wait for the upgrades to see what this thing can really do!
Yet another excellent video my dude! These things are too cool! 🤟
Glad you like them, cause I am pumped! Never owned one of these scooters before so I am excited to learn more about them!
Love your videos very informative and helpful
Glad you like them!
probably 30km/h. These things are a lot of fun. Good job being a "grown-ass man" having hooligan fun in the snow. Keep up the good work and we'll be here for the next video
First, I love your Channels name! Something about riding scooters just makes a guy excited, cant wait for the upgrades!
@@PraskaBoysGarage Thanks! I've fixed up a few scooters and they are fairly easy to repair. Once they are running, you have a new appreciation for "wide open throttle"
Keep it up my man I'm learning.😊
Great stuff as always man!
Appreciate it, thanks!
Awesome vid brother. And I love your channel!!!
Awesome! Thank you!
i like your videos...i wait for every new project!
thanks and hello from Italy.
Diego
Italy that's Awesome! Thank you for watching!
Caught my attention that was awesome
Old school trick...If you have low compression you can put a shot of oil in the cylinder it the compression goes up its rings and it it stays the same its valves. 😎
Awesome man!
Thanks dude!
Thanks for the video
lol Nice job BJ! Can't wait to see what you guys do with those in the next vid!
Thanks Max! I can't wait either, it's going to be great!
I just bought a 2022 Honda Ruckus and I want to do a mild performance upgrade, aka a Stage One Kit from the Ruck Shop. It does 38 mph off the floor but I need to get to 45-50 mph so I can stay with the flow of traffic. Great video, though, and very informative. Thanks!
Back at it again
Yes sir! Thanks for watching!
Definitely wanna see the next video! Great job man, I just picked up an older timberline fire hawk mini bike that and this video has got me excited to wrench some!
Awesome, Thank you! Good luck on your project Peter, sounds like a good one!
that's a great friend. have fun guys. i got no friends that share in any of my hobbies. people suck 😆
damn! hard to beat $200 transportation that gets 100 mpg lol
I got the 1000th like. Do I get a prize? Lol love your videos, man. Im not one to be able to sit down and watch an entire video. But yours are so detailed, I cant look away. Keep it up. You've inspired me.
Thanks Tim!!! I appreciate the support! I'm starting my come back and will be in the shop next week! Can not wait!
Quality video as always mate
Hey thanks David, good to hear from you as always!
@@PraskaBoysGarage mate do you sell your praskaboysgarage T shirts?
Love your videos bro. I wish you lived down here and could help me with a project I'm into. God bless!!
Thanks Larry glad to hear that! Wishing you all the best!
Laughs! Great content looking forward to the next video. Aloha from Kauai🤙🏻
Wow Kauai that's crazy! We need to be friends because I want to come visit!
@@PraskaBoysGarage whats the deal with the UFC belt?
It's fan memorabilia. I'm a big MMA fan, so years ago I purchased a replica belt! I need to get a new one since they changed the design!
49cc Gy6 engines always come with the valves too tight I had to do valve adjustments to 50 atm50 scooters in 2 days straight out of the crate. We would sell them without touching the engine besides adding oil. Customers would return about 50 miles later with no start scooters. 😒 after rebuilding and replacement of 6 carbs I decided to try the valves and alas too tight. Adjustments made it fired right away. I never assembled any out of the crate without adjusting the valves first.
That bike looks like alot of fun
Cant wait to give it some real power!
I realize this is an older video but the person you guys bought that from eliminated all the back pressure by putting that open muffler
Great job. Just picked up a yamati retro cruiser 150cc for 150 bucks. Just needed a carb. Ordered from VMC. Also got a yamaha raptor 50 for 100. Needs top end done and valve job.
Thanks for adding the links for tools you used. Just ordered what I needed for the valve job. What compound do you use for valve lapping
Thanks man! That's a steal on the Raptor, we have had 3 of them and the boys love them! I updated the video to have the valve grinding compound. Hope that helps!
Would love BJ's opinion on a GY6 that starts easy when cold and then is hard starting when warm. New stator, new battery, 50CC with a 150 Head.
I love these Chinese scooter's ice bear. I have a 2020 q6 trike 157qmj n I'm telling y'all my little donkey takes me anywhere.
Nice! If you haven't joined the Facebook group Chuckus Life you need to! Thanks for watching!
Even as a non runner $200 is a steal
I’m glad I bought a Ruckus. As cheap as the Chinese scooters are, I'd rather have the reliability of a Honda knowing it's gonna start when I push that button.
True, Honda does make great reliable units and we personally own a few, but someone who can't afford the cost of a Ruckus this is still a nice option. My thought is having something to ride is better than nothing at all! Thanks for watching Michael!
@@PraskaBoysGarage / Agreed. They're a great alternative. Wish Honda would up the engine size of the Ruckus to anything bigger than 50cc. Hope American models get a design and engine refresh soon.
@@michaelc5019 I'm not sure why they don't! Anyone who wants to upgrade their Ruckus has to spend $2,000 on a GY6 150cc conversion. Then your just putting a chinese motor into a Ruckus. Come on Honda!
I love it
Thanks Alvin!
Awesome! Hella Kewl!
Thank you!
Yeah bro! Nice work, good video, cool vibes. Sub'd
Btw, if you tagged your vid with GY6 or 139QMB you'd probably score more views. This vid was a good troubleshooting vid for the scooter crew.
Thanks for the tip and subscribing! I just updated the title, still new to the scooter world!
I'm thinking BJ needs to do a lot more videos, his fans demand it.
That's the plan, plus now that I am retiring from Xbox I will have a lot more time in the shop!
@@PraskaBoysGarage We both know that's far from true
What can one say about getting something to run within a certain time frame and without spending any money except the purchase price. I'm having issues finding the correct head gasket for this project. DF200CKF. Either a different head was put on it or these gaskets were made horribly wrong.
I have a 125 motor like that. Gy6. All new electrics and wiring harness. Not getting spark. Any help
I went from an Ice Bear 50cc to a CBR954rr.. quite a difference.
Lol, yes I would agree that's a big power shift! Always a good time getting on 2 wheels!
Learning on how to do the value
Nice, good luck with your project!
Just before Christmas I bought a brand new Honda Ruckus. 2 hours of waiting and they could not get that thing started. I backed out of the deal. So I find it hard to believe your Chinese scooter could be worse.🛵
@Randy Mcilveene I heard they were reliable that's why I tried purchasing one.
I knew posting this video I would have some Honda Ruckus enthusiasts not happy about it. Honda has a great rep for being super reliable. We choose these because of the price point. Full disclosure if Justin or I don't blow one of them up before the summer's over I'll be surprised! Thanks for watching!
@Randy Mcilveene I have a 2014 Metropolitan it runs great. I have a 2016 Yamaha Zuma Which is far as I'm concerned the best scooter ever made. The Ruckus was the most comparable thing after they discontinued The Zuma in North America.
Do you guys know of a good motor mount for a 150cc engine swap on one of these?
Funny title. If you cant get a gy6 to run you shouldn’t have a shop. 😁 I have one, theyre great little scooters fun to tool around town on. You’ll undoubtedly either want to put a 50mm big bore kit on it or weld up some brackets and put on a 150cc. The Achillies heel of these bikes is the harness, upgrade at least gauge of ground wire, and it will be a lit more reliable. Have fun!
Thanks of the tips! I have everything ordered for the 150cc swap on my white scooter. It will be fun to compare the differences in power between the 2! Thanks for watching!
@@PraskaBoysGarage no comparison in power of course, either way wicked fun little machines! Enjoy the toy brother! 👍
Get back out there, ride that thing! It's an ICE BEAR!
Glad to have spring weather, we are ready to ride!
we missd you man
I missed you to brother!
You live in a lovely part of America
Thank you, we love it here! I'm over the snow and ready for spring to get here now!
We purchased 2 of these new this summer , they were the biggest pieces of junk . Always had issues and always at the dealer . We ended up selling them and getting a Honda Ruckus . Totally stay away . Always hard starting , very cheeply made , dealer was nice but never dependable gave up and sold them after only 500 ish miles on both
From what I've heard, it's best to buy the Maddog scooter and then talk to several mechanic shops about replacing parts. And take the scooter to which ever mechanics will work on it.
timing mark is on the magneto side under that black case is the variator and clutch . Lighter variator rollers required and look for the limiter on the variator
Thanks! I ordered a Naraku transmission kit for my scooter, so we will see how well that works compared to this one!
@@PraskaBoysGarage Just working on a Super 8 50 T Kymco very similar engine but in two stroke Taiwan built £100 UK so about $170 US Picked it up on Facebook as a project Not as good as the Italian Lambretta's back in the day :-) Interesting content Watched your bent conrod Vlog very surprised Hope your oil pump is good for the upgrades
Maybe ya'll can help me. I have a modified scooter (from 2 wheeler to trike) It is about 7 yrs old and was running like a top until I noticed as I was pushing it backwards into the garage (engine is off) It will become hard to push. While riding it I will get to a small hill and it will barely get up the hill. There are times as well when it will get up to normal speed and then it wil start to bog down again.
5:40 It have CVK carb. Is not enough open when throttle is turned open. Its slide is in the lower position.
6:30 Sometimes carbon from piston stuck in to valve seat. Medicine for that is rotating engine untill pressure come back. That one had lot of it.
When engine does not start, take carb off if it have blue-white sparks. Put petrol directly in the intake manifold. If run, do something to carb.
Make sure to check out the next video I did on this scooter! We found out the real issue was a bent rod!
Amazon special "fuel" lines... Those should be swapped out immediately as they get hardened and will crack within 6 months. It happened to me lol
😂 that damn thing has been past the gasket for ten years lol. How in the hell do I not notice that.
What has been past the gasket?
I would like to find a deal like that in Florida. Where can I buy a clone
Great project BJ. But how much power can you get from a 50cc motor with after market mods and 185lbs+ men riding it? It needs 110cc or bigger.
Thanks! I really don't know what to expect. I've limited my research only because I want to learn from my own experiences, so we will see how it turns out. My hope is that we can reach 50 mph and still have some get up and go before attempting the motor swap.
i would kill for a deal like this
It was a good deal for sure! Justin road it all summer long! Turned out to be pretty good!
Where do you buy a clone?
Before we even get started .. the problem is/was that air filter. Tried the same thing didn't work out. New carb later I'm back.
Well you got it going ... Trust me about the air filter them bikes love their stock setup. It helps with the gas flow by adding pressure. Makes a big difference. Right now that bike is getting too much air. Few other notes ... That is the org IceBear, gages suck, tire is a bit too wide for turns and over all parts are hard to get ... But it is the original and looks great. The valve adjustment is always a must with these right out of the factory.
I vant watin to see your honda ruck build
All the parts are in but 1 major piece that's on back order...coming soon!
That what my problem is I am thank so I need the take out the value like you did
Good luck on your project man! Thanks for watching!
Nice vid but I have a question, so which is the clone the Chinese or the Ice Bear
Ice Bear is the company that sells the Chinese clone.
Awesome make more videos
Thank you! Will do!
idk how the carbs are on these things, but i bet if you can change the jets on the carb and put smaller ones on it, it would be quicker.
I ordered a jet kit so this spring we can fine tune the scooter. We will see which one gives us the best results and I will have a video on it!
GY6 150 should do the trick!
I plan to do a lot of testing on mine and that is one of them!
@@PraskaBoysGarage It will be awesome to come along with you. Can't wait for the videos👍👍
Wonder what the engine smells like running, my guess would be over-fuelled, looking at all that carbon and the non-standard carb.
That's a great guess! I will have the second part of this project coming out next week and I figure out the real problem!
I have a new icebear maddog scooter new never driven it it gets spark not gas wen you turn the key over the fuel pump dont do nothing at all got any idea man please late me know something
These scooter use a pulse pump, it's not electric. I pulls a vacuum off the intake that sucks gas from the tank to the carb. You have to crank the motor to allow fuel to flow.
Where you guys located?
I have this same bike in blue mine hits 45 mph stock all tht was done was cdi and air filter and new tires cause the ones tht are on it suck .... just a heads up I putting a lot of stress on tht motor with no exhaust it will blow easy
By your TH-cam name I can tell I have the right guy in my comments for this video!!! Thanks for commenting, and with the performance kit we purchased that will definitely be addressed.
Bro you think you can get your hands on one of those 200cc China quads ?
Been looking for a 150cc-250cc for awhile now! They just don't come up often for sale on Facebook Marketplace. When I see one at a reasonable price I'll be sure to pick it up!
I'd toss a Chinese 150cc gy6 in there... Maybe even a 170cc big bore
Kit.
I've got one in a generic Chinese atv and she screams and rips like a beast without even doing any cvt mods.
Great scoots! I'd rather have one of those than a real Honda Ruckus!
That's the plan for my unit if I can find the right motor mount bracket! Might need to sell a couple projects to fund the new scooter addiction!
Especially since most idiots pull the quality water cooled honda engine to add a pos gy6. Save the money and start with a gy6 bike. This stretched lowered fakeruk is $1700 new a stocks ruckus is $ 2300 before taxes and fees
At least the previous owner knew not to remove the engine shroud.. they NEED this to direct air from the fan.
You also want at least 100psi compression. I usually got 120-130 from my China scoots
I was wondering if that was required to stay on. I figured they designed the GY6 to be in all scooters including the ones that have body covering most of it, but since this is open frame I thought it might be ok to keep off. Your say 100% it needs to go back on?
@@PraskaBoysGarage the open frame probably makes it a little less dire but it's not something I'd wanna risk. Check out some of the forums.. there's one or two centered around Chinese stuff.
@@jseden Will do! Thanks James!
@@PraskaBoysGarage of course! These guys are real fun and easy once you've done a few. All of mine have been enclosed body tho and I remember shroud removal being a no-no.
Surprisingly reliable little engines when sorted out right.. I've seen a couple to 10kkm (with 72cc kits) without any issues.
Its hard to kill a gy6 we have an old 150 gy6 quad and it's been taking a beating since 03 and still going
I don't have a lot of experience with them, but from what I see they have a huge following and tons of aftermarket parts available. I have a feeling the channel will be seeing more of them in the future!
Not that hard. They'll burn up real quick if running lean.
Where are you located?
Do you guys work on these motors for people out of state
Not right now, but hopefully soon in the future we will be able to offer performance builds. That's in the works right now!
That thing should have atleast 140-150psi, possibly more, most gave close to 200psi, but it is sir cooled, I have often wondered if the cam could slip in the timing gear, or if it is installed accurately in the factory!
Check out the next video I posted on this scooter. You'll be surprised on what we found was the real issue!
I'll bet you anything the piston is 'chawed' and possibly the cylinder too. that carbon wreaks havoc. that's why the poor compression.
You gonna go full RBG on those Rukus clones? Oh yeah!!
Had Red Beard done a GY6 before? I know hes a big predator/tillotson guy.
@@PraskaBoysGarage Hey, sorry for any confusion. Not sure if RBG has done a GY6 before. I should have asked if you were going to go do performance updates (pretty sure you can get more than 26 mph out of that thing). Keep sharing the great video content, we are really liking it!
@@michaelcronin3838 Thanks man! I've followed Red Beard for a long time and really enjoy his videos too!
What happened to your ruckus?.
It seems your air filter is pointing at your tire wich is 5 inches away. Hmmm...
Glad my scooter went to people who know what there doing. Hope she treats y’all well👍
Hey thanks man! Appreciate that, I can't wait to get it all done!
Yes don't use the orange coil it did not like mine and it started to heat my wire harness up
I have a question I've got a 2012 taotao ATA125-E atv I've cleaned the carb and it still only starts if you put fuel in the carb I dont know what else
To be honest for the cost of a replacement carb I usually just buy new. It's saves a lot of time and headaches!
@@PraskaBoysGarage if the intake was kracked and had a gap between the carb and allowed the air to go through is that the reason why it's not pulling fuel
@@gunsandhorsepower For sure, a vacuum leak will cause a lot of problems. Since the fuel pump vacuum comes right off the intake I'm sure that was a huge issue!
@@PraskaBoysGarage I ordered a kit kind of thing on amazon it comes with a carb intake gaskets spark plug fuel lines and feul filter and yea it would fire if I sprayed fuel down it but if you tried start it would just crank I got it for my 16 birthday and I'm almost 18 and I've never ride it
Something's different... did you put more lights in the garage?
Good catch, I added 6 8' LED light bars. I can't tell if they helped or made it almost too bright!
@@PraskaBoysGarage It's perfect!
Where can i get ruckus scooter for around this price?
This price was a killer deal for sure! I had to pay $500 for my white 50cc and even that was a good deal with it not running.
How many miles did yours have on it ? I’m having similar issues with a 2020 gen 5 maddog 50cc. Also had “carb work”, the same coil and spark plug and cdi upgrade. Only thing is mine only has 790 miles on it, so I’m hoping it doesn’t have that much damage
Hey David, sorry to respond late. I think I saw this question on the Chuckus Facebook group! Did you get your problem solved or are you still having issues?
@@PraskaBoysGarage I am still have the issue unfortunately
@@davidgutierrez6497 Well I hope yours isn't as bad as this one was! I'm not sure if you saw the next video I posted on it but turned out the rod was bent and the cylinder was cracked. Shoot me an email to praskaboysgarage@gmail.com or message me from the chuckus group on Facebook. I'd be happy to help you figure it out.
@@PraskaBoysGarage okay! What’s it your fb name ?
@@davidgutierrez6497 Benjamin Praska
What make/model/type of moped is this? I have to see if there's a European version
I'll have to double check the title but I know for sure mine is a Icebear 50cc
Yoo BJ when is the next project?
Working on it right now! Hope to have it done this Sunday and edited later next week.
I just got mine for free from my landlord it needs keys a battery box and a battery ill paint it and maybe a few upgrades
Nice! Good luck on the project!
Can you swap stator types on 110cc
If you mean between the 2 coil vs a 6 coil, you can't unless you also change the stator cover as well.
Intake valve needs to be .004, exhaust at .005
I saw that, unfortunately I need new feeler gauges because the lowest mine has is .005"
These youtubers must know of a secret craigslist or something....I look for projects like 2 hours a day and never find deals like that!
I only use Facebook Marketplace these days, but yeah my buddy got a deal on this one! The white one I bought also not running and cost me $500!
Yea FB does seem to have better deals these days
I would put a predator 212 on it.
We could! I want to do a bad boy predator build sometime for the channel, but for this scooter we are going to push this 50cc to its max!
That intake looks sunken, like the seats are worn!
We ended up replacing the head in the next video...found out we had a much bigger issue!
Guy, that is a hum-dinger bike for converting to electric - seriously. Just install a back wheel with a hub motor.; Suitable battery (30-50 AH) in place of the fuel tank. A controller and charger as well as some minor ancilliary bits. I promise there will be no comparison with the original.
I'd love to know what the brand and model of that Chinese scooter.
It is a Maddog Icebear 50cc with 139QMB motors.
I believe it is a Gen 1 also.
@@PraskaBoysGarage Thanks!
Where to buy from?
Links are in the description for any tools or parts you might need. The scooter was originally found and purchased off Facebook Market Place.
Buy one what the other tools you use bro
All the tools I used in this video are linked in the description. Let me know if you need something you don't see!