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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ธ.ค. 2023
- This is my most popular video on my TikTok account (and technically ever) so thought I should finally upload this to TH-cam
I have no idea why I waited this long to upload it (I made it in March of 2023)
I’m still really proud of this edit even though it is currently 10 months old
But yea um the context for this is that I love their relationship sm
This is technically a ship edit but lots of ppl didn’t take it that way so whatever interpret this edit however you wish (signed, a multishipper)
A little fun fact abt me is that I wrote an essay abt Harvey Dent/Twoface in my freshman year of college for an assignment so if you want to know how much I love them then here’s a hint of it lol
I just love their relationship sm (warning Bruharvey/Twobats rant incoming ⚠️)
Bruce just cares so much abt Harvey despite everything that has happened between the two of them. They care so much abt each other on both sides
They love each platonically or romantically it doesn’t really matter
I’ve finally decided to upload this here now cuz I’m currently playing Telltale Batman (I know I’m like 7 years too late) but they’re giving me the feels 😭
It’s probably inevitable that’ll make another Bruharvey edit soon
These 2 make me so upset, definitely one of my Roman empires 🥺
I just want them to be happy together but they have to be so angsty and think that the other hates them now but they don’t so they’re stuck in a continuous loop, brooding by themselves over their “lost” friendship 😔
like no Harvey, Bruce literally visits you each week in Arkham to check in on you and see how you’re doing (it’s in the comics btw guys this is actually canon I’m serious) he obviously doesn’t hate you, you goof go get therapy 😒
I swear majority of their problems would be fixed with communication and therapy. Too bad Bruce and Harvey suck at it
Anyway that’s it for the rant for now but feel free to ask me more abt them cuz I’ll happily talk abt them more but I’ll stop for now cuz I’ve talked way too much lol
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Its bittersweet that Dent still looks fondly on Bruce even as far gone as he is.
He's sane but out of touch with the world, Like most of his villains (most...)
He has his own set of views that are actually somewhat Close to Bruce, So that alone would naturally help them click
And Bruce has literally been his only friend and only person who actually stuck with him after he lost everything and everyone. So it makes sense for him to want to cherish the last good thing in his life
Kevin Conroy and Richard Moll
We miss you guys.
Aw their both dead?
@@TheAllSeeingEye2468 Sadly yes. Gone but not forgotten.
@@antoniogirgenti9738agreed
@@antoniogirgenti9738 never forgotten.
@@user-do8ot1mu6c So true.
In the episode where Hugo Stange tries to sell the secret identity of Batman to all the main villains and reveals to them it's Bruce, Harvey's response is "if Bruce Wayne is Batman, then I'm the Queen of England."
The reason that Harvey reacts this way is because since becoming two-face, he's lost almost every good aspect from his former life. His career, his family, his fiance, his friends... everything except Bruce. Not only is Bruce his main line of support, he's also his only friend in which he has any trust left. So to find out that his #1 friend is also his greatest enemy, Harvey can't even face that (pun intended)
He also said that he knows Bruce.
I think about how Harvey's coin is a double sided coin, batman and Bruce are also like his coin. There the same people just trying to help his friend. Kinda like how his coin will always land on heads? Am I cooking?
@@willo4theroadtogloryBruh. I can smell that shit from here. KEEP.FUCKING.GOING.🔥🔥🔥
You think maybe part if it may be that he is trying to protect Bruce?
Because every other villain would salivate at that info (especially Penguin). But because Harvey still trusts Bruce and cares about him, that small part of him that is still good would try to protect him by dismissing Strange’s (correct) theory as ridiculous.
I was wondering if two faced actually knew it was bruce but as yiu said was trying to protect him especially since even as batman he still tries to help. He doesnt kill him just keeps locking him to try and keep getring help.@paoerfulone1089
one of the best things BTAS ever did was make bruce and harvey best friends. we see their relationship before he becomes two face and how much it hurts bruce to see his friend fall like that. even as two-face, harvey still holds a soft spot in his heart for his best friend.
I agree but however in TNBA it seems as if Batman/Bruce Wayne has completely given up on him. He seems less willing to talk it out with him and go straight to the hands with Two-Face. Batman’s overall character seems to have changed in the TNBA. He’s more cold and distant. You can see this change in his costume as well. BTAS costume was more colorful albeit at darker more mature version of the Adam West version. You get a sense of hope and optimism from this Batman whereas TNBA costume he’s completely given up hope and accepts the reality that Gotham can’t be truly saved from the inherent evil and corruption that exists within it but at best can be kept at bay. Basically patchwork is what’s Batman’s doing not only that but Bruce accepts and embraces the darkness within himself as this marks the beginning of the relationships with those closest to him begin to deteriorate and why he’s so much colder in his later years. Terry McGinnis is different however in his viewpoint of Gotham he sees it like a friend in desperate need of saving with a possibility of redeeming Gotham rather than a monster to be kept at bay like Bruce did.
@@terrencehollins8072That's why I dont like TNBA that much..
@@terrencehollins8072 Yeah its a negative character arc for Batman. By TNBA he's increasingly becoming jaded because his Rogues still end up being supervillains. TNBA is where Batman's coldness becomes prominent., He mellows out a bit for JL & JLU but then Joker brutalizes Tim, and afterwards he slowly distances himself from the League & the batfamily falls apart, leaving him all alone until Terry comes into his life. We see Batman lose hope over time and then regain it. You can see this in the Beyond episode where Mr. Freeze comes back, where Bruce is just expecting Mr. Freeze to return to villainy whereas Terry believes that Freeze will stay on the good path.
@@terrencehollins8072 One of many reasons why TNBA sucks.
@@LordVader1094 I wouldn’t say the series sucks per se. I do like the fact that it takes less attention off Batman and puts more on the other members of the Bat family. The episode “Growing Pains” is one of my favorites. That shit hit hard. I felt bad for young Robin.
I like how in 01:19 Harvey's scarred side is completely obscured so to emphasize him as Bruce Wayne's good old friend Harvey Dent instead of the psychotic disfigured mobster Two-Face.
I would love a comic where Two Face believes that Bruce Wayne is dead and goes on a rampage trying to bring his killer to "Justice."
Which would lead to the creation of his third personality “The Judge” .
@@Dogmaguy74 That's actually a very good and clever way to tie into that. Kinda sad Harvey never got a happy ending in the Timverse. Though, sometimes life isn't always happy endings for everyone.
That actually creates an interesting idea, maybe about a comic where Harvey prevents Bruce from killing Joe Chill (before his days as Batman) and that's why he never gives up on Harvey. Because Harvey saved him in the past.
@@beauwalker9820
If the Fatal Five movie is any indication, he's well on his way to doing it, though.
@@yocapo32 what's the fearsome five?
Harvey Dent is a walking representation of why Batman refuses to kill. He is literally his friend. 😢😢
Harvey is actually one of the villains that can be rehab as just give him therapy and boom the Two-Face personality well disappear. Oh for those that are curious on the other Batman Rogue gallery that can be rehab Harley Quinn, Ventriloquist, Mad Hatter, Clayface, Professor Pyg, Clock king, and Firefly. The other rogue gallery member are either already rehabilitated, not insane, or can't be rehabilitated. Scarecrow is too crazy to be rehabilitate, Joker require an act of god to cure, Riddler has gone straight, Bane isn't insane just need to see a substances abuse councilor to get over his Venom addiction, Catwoman isn't crazy as she was never sent to Arkham, Penguin is just a mobster, and Freeze is just a tragic man and the only reason he was sent to Arkham is because it's the only place that can hold him
Pyg can not be rehabilitated. He makes the Joker look sane
Bane once even quit the drug and was still able to go around and kick butt. The guy just wants to prove superiority.
think in one of the comics, batman actually helps freeze cure nora and it ends up with freeze becoming one of batman's most helpful allies
Nah, Scarecrow isn't crazy. He's just plain evil.
@@TheBabkaSlayer I don't know. For a guy that's obess with fear you have to crazy.
Tas show Batman's greatest quality, his humanity.
This is the BATMAN I know the one that inspired the good things for kids when I was a child back then
This batman is lost unfortunately, we are stuck with punisher in a silly hat instead, the only bat man that comes close to this is 2022's the batman
@@uberbyte7467 The Batman is a self-destructive emo more interested in being a bogeyman than helping people. As far as movie Batmen go, I think Bale's was the closest to the humanitarian softy Batman deep down is.
@@Aivottaja You've completely misinterpreted his entire character, he started out as a flawed batman, that barley functioned as Bruce Wayne in the beginning of the flick, only to then grow and become a hero that cares more about helping the innocent rather then stopping villains. He learns to rely and work with others more.
@@uberbyte7467 You give that movie too much credit. Or perhaps insert your own interpretation into it to not make it appear as if they bungled the character.
Arkham Origins had a more inexperienced, angrier Batman and that actually showed that kind of character growth.
@@uberbyte7467yeah, my only real criticism towards Kevin conroy’s performance is that he 100% had the right idea of distinguishing the voices between Bruce Wayne and Batman
And even as Batman in general you can still very clear hear a layer of humanity in his stoicism, and the more it comes out, the more he becomes “Bruce” in a silly hat.
Even stuff down to the art direction of the field eyes point upwards to show him truly sad or scared.
The cold stoicism he settled into as time goes on is goated as hell and it obviously depends on the version he’s playing
But I really do wish/miss Batman who’s softness and humanity shine through
Admittedly parts of it IS just negative association via hearing so much of Kevin’s Batmen basically come off like roided out redditor
With the DCAU you can at least attribute it to Bruce growing into the role as he just becomes fully Batman. ESP I’m beyond.
But I still feel a lot of connection is severed when the human side becomes so locked away
Poor Harvey. He never realized how much Bruce really cared for him. Also this show is a masterpiece!
Y'know I'm sure this is ultimately a reach but, sometimes it feels like the animated series two face is based off the writers relationship with a friend that had an addiction. Its coded into the relationship between Bruce and Harvey. To love someone who developed a self-destructive habit coping with a tragedy. To want to help them so badly only to see how Fear keeps driving them further into a choice you know won't help them. You'd love nothing more than to see them return to the person you loved and cherished only to struggle seeing that friend refuse your help and continue to sink further and further in a vain effort to run away from what happened, to see them so dependent on something you know is killing them. Unable to bring yourself to give up on them and thus doomed to see every step of their descent.
shit this comment got me crying. i really should stop drinking but i can't. the hook is in me and it wont come out.
@@mrdeathbyzombies3704 Believe man, I've see it, there's a way out of there.
It will painful, it will be difficult, but believe when I say there's a way, it will always be a way.
try and trust the process.
This hurts more knowing that the canonical ending to Harveys story is the third personality 'the judge' taking over and leaving Harvey a broken mess reciting "guilty" over and over in a padded room in Arkham. We never see this version of Harvey again, not in justice league or the tie-in comics,
@@mrdeathbyzombies3704 in the last 4 years i lost most of my family to alcohol.. my cousins, aunt, uncles and grandpa, nearly lost my mom too she passed out while smoking and caught on fire, she lost her legs and finally decided to stop drinking and smoking. i never started cause i saw what it was doing to my mom while growing up. do yourself, and your loved ones a favor and quit while you can.
@@mrdeathbyzombies3704 I support you, friend.
Go beat that addiction.
All those other villains and criminals that try to hunt down Bruce, Harvey will definitely retaliate even if he’s far gone in his two-face persona.
Hands down one of the best edits of anything i ever saw, no joke. Congratulations dude, this video is amazing in everything. The pacing, music, dialogue, clips selection, you nailed it
@@franciscocastro4082 Aww thank you so much!
A broken man needs that one person to keep reminding them there's hope.
It’s been about a year since Kevin’s death yet I still miss him dearly.
Of all of the Batman villain's Two-Face is the one that should be redeemed. He already has so much good in him.
Harvey and Freeze.
I find it holesome how despite Two-face being sort of a split between Harvy and well Two-face, they both still see Bruce as a friend.
what is interesting about this version of batman and Harvey dent is the hero best friend turn evil and even all the evil act he have done he try to save him or make the treatment more peaceful i liked that path of both bruce wayne and harvey being friend.
Bruce’s dream in the animated series reminds me of the Scorpion hallucination level from Insomniac’s Spider-Man. Both focus on how Peter and Bruce blame themselves for what happened to Otto and Harvey, so much so that they desperately want to help them.
Batman always use Bruce voice whenever he is next to Harvey! Because he know he is best friend!
Rip to the legends
I like how there are two separate minds to doubt with . Two-face hates Batman because he always gets in his way every time he tries to flip the alternative. Harvey seems to care about Bruce cause he’s always been his childhood friend.
I like that some stories make them old friends almost since childhood because then it feels as if Bruce is not giving up on him because he is a remnant of his old life before his parents died, similar to Alfred.
90's cartoon batman was the best bat there ever was. He was my bat, the real batman. The real hero.
very beautiful ive always enjoyed their friendship in btas especially when harvey calls him a good old friend who never gave up on him. its just a pretty accurate depiction and they always stood by each other even if he didn't know that's what counts
The best Batman is one that doesn't mind showing his emotions when he feels them.
It’s so sad knowing Harvey really wants to change, go back to how things used to be but after his Two-Face change he broke and shifted into madness
like Peter Parker and Dr Curt Conners
I just shed two tears, this is to much for My Heart to bear.
After watching BTAS, Twoface became my favorite Batman villain. I genuinely feel so bad for him.
It then gets worse on side tales like "Two-Timer" (The Batman and Robin Adventures comics issues 1 and 2) and "Two Of A Kind" (from Batman: Black & White 1996), which then concludes to his increasing unhingedness in The New Batman Adventures from the episodes "Sins of the Father" and "Judgment Day".
Still, there may be some hope, as seen in Justice League vs. the Fatal Five, but even then, that movie's value and canonicity on the DC Animated Universe is hotly debated.
I was about to say this myself, friend. Harvey seems... a lot more chill and almost friendly even as Two-face to that Legion of Superheroes member (forgot his name).
@@lanceislateagain Thomas Kallor, a.k.a. Star Boy.
This was well done thank you
Harvey Dent/Two-Face started off as good but became evil after an accident wrapped his mind still Bruce continued to believe in him
To be fair his mind was already halfway in the gutter, the acid just pushed him over
@@Davetonitheone I know and the blame for that goes to Rupert Throne
@@Davetonitheone Only in the newer stories, originally (like in TAS) he was a legitimately good person and good friend of Bruce and Jim...
@@ProcyonDei technically he still is, Two Face is the evil persona, he is Harvey's pent up anger personified, Harvey is still a good man while Two Face isnt in control
BTAS shone light on Batman's humanity as well, something that tends to be forgotten in most media.
It's honestly a shame that in Telltale's Batman you weren't able to save Harvey. Despite throwing literally everything away from him and him from being scarred, he still ends up becoming 2 Face. I wanted to save him so bad, same as with John.
Bruce is a good friend
Bruce never gave up on Harvey, no matter how bad Harvey got. They should really do a proper two face in a Batman movie, and show their friendship before Harvey was sprayed with acid. And then show Bruce trying to stop two face. And trying to redeem Harvey
Good ole bruce always been my best friend
This is the only Batman villain I have absolute sympathy for and will never blame for his actions. Him and Mr. Freeze. That’s it
This is one of the reasons why Batman TAS pretty much ends after season 2 in my book. New Adventures thru Justice League and Beyond, Bruce basically HAS given up on Harvey and most of the other villains (The Ventriloquist was a notable exception), and he's just coldly focused on fighting crime.
Now I wish that we cocould have seen a friendship between Bruce Wayne and Harvey Dent in Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight
It'd be great indeed. Thankfully, we get a glimpse of that in Batman telltale game series where Harvey Dent is running for Gotham's mayoral seat and Bruce is backing him up.
@@user-ob4sq6fi3s Oh wow,man I didn't know that,thanks for the heads up
@@OmarPerez-cq7zf you're welcome. If I'm not mistaken, the game was released in 2016-2017.
It's a game based on your choices and Bruce Wayne is the character you handle. I hope you'll like it. Feel free to contact me here if you have any questions or comments on the matter 🙂
@@user-ob4sq6fi3s No I'm all good but like I said thanks again!👍
To be fair Nolan based that story on the old comics and the long Halloween, both of which never showed Dent and Bruce as friends, just that he was an ally to batman when he was starting.
Would finding out Bruce was Batman shatter what was left of Harvey? Or do you think it would do the opposite?
Harvey is still in there regardless of tje his 2 face persona
I will NEVER FORGIVE WB Games for NOT making Batman Arkham Origins 2 and NOT making the story about Batman and Harvey Dents relationship, Alliance with the GCPD against the Mob and later Acid Attack, which would lead to Harvey Dents first attack on Gotham as Two Face.
SCREW YOU WB GAMES! I have to make Arkham Origins 2 MYSELF!
Awww bestie you have most definitely NOT talked abt them too much!! In fact you just opened my eyes to these two romantically! You have very valid points!! 🛐 I stan them now, you made a Bruharvey shipper outta me fr
Congrats to shipping bruharvey and or twobats! I’m glad I converted you! 😈
I’ve shipped these 2 since 2019? (I think) I just love them! Bruce has such a soft spot towards them, it’s ridiculous! Of course Bruce still holds the both of them accountable but he’s way more soft towards them than majority of his rouges and I find it to funny lol. That’s his ex (husband or bsf up to you)! They talk like they’re exes so much it’s so sad and angsty they break my heart but it’s sooo well done!
I love when a Batman media discusses their friendship cuz lots of media just brushes it off or just doesn’t include it for some reason! (Looking at you dark knight it’s such a missed opportunity, but it’s still a great movie but the missed potential to make it even better and explore their relationship more) I have lots of love towards telltale and btas for this reason
@cutesnowybunny12 I so agree and yea they do rlly seem like exes! I've never watched that much batman or dc comics growing up but I've really been into it in my most recent years so I didn't see the shipping potential cuz I didn't read or watch that much and get a true grip on their history but now I see it. It all comes together like pieces of a puzzle that are all meant to be.
@@Sanguinary_Briar Yeah well I’m happy to help! Here’s another ship to suggest though I mainly ship it ironically is riddlebat (Riddler x Batman). I don’t really take this ship seriously but they’re funny so that’s my personal stance on it. Edward probably has a somewhat implied one-sided crush on Batman!
I don’t really read the comics that much but there’s a comic that heavily implies Edward is bi (the comic had the bi colors as lighting throughout the story). The story took place during Valentine’s Day where Ed robs a flower store and leaves clues for Bruce where if leads to past relationships or crushes (consisting of both men and women) and finally Bruce finds Edward and they basically have a chat and Ed offers him a drink commenting on the fact that Bruce must be lonely that he had nowhere better to be than to be with him on valentines today. Bruce stays for a bit and they clink their drinks together and the comics ends.
The comics is Strange Love Adventures #1 - “Dinner for Two” (2022) if you want to read it! I’m not a huge riddlebat fan but it’s neat!
Here’s a link to it on tumblr not sure if it’ll work tho; why-i-love-comics.tumblr.com/post/676284441326452736/strange-love-adventures-1-dinner-for-two
😢 I miss them both
I get why this guy became two face.... And why he chooses to flip a coin😂
Dent looks like Lex Luthor with Hair. same voice actor too.
I actually wanted to see more Bruce and Harvey.
Real pals stick by you to the end.
Richard Moll. "Bull" from Original "Night Court" ✌️
Always there... Man i need a Bruce in my life
Is it wrong to tear up alittle bit and I wish they did this in the batman movies
Is it too much ask for a time line where he actually redeem or save Dent.
what if i cried rn
Harvey is my fave character along with poison ivy.
Friends irl can't be like that
What would happen if this Two-Face found out that Bruce was Batman
I love the Arkham games but this is something that 2 face severely lacked. He was just a generic badguy in those games sadly when he’s supposed to be more sympathetic
Getting his "good" face scarred should have been a BIG deal. Like, it should have fundamentally changed Two-Face's obsession with "balance". Would he have split three ways? Would Harvey Dent completely cease to exist within Two-Face's mind? Would Harvey have once again gained the freedom to choose for himself? The canonical answer is....
a big shrug and a forgotten plot point.
Split personality is a hard life
Did we get a conclusion to Harvey Dent in the animated universe?
I don’t think so but if we did it happened offscreen.
Kids shows used to cover some deep and dark topics. What happened to good tv like this?
Who knows that twoface is tragic kr broken both comics, movies and tv show?
Why batman want to be friend with Two-face? Because Batman have one too with 🦇. For their story.
Which could mean nothing….
Harvey Is Crazy?
I guess.. nothing good lasts forever.
Another ship that’s better than mid BatJokes
fuck that hurt me on a monday and now i have to work
Toxic Yaoi my beloved
What happened to him in Batman beyond
Hush went on a killing spree and killed him and some other villans in Gotham
@@bryanp5843 i dont think thats part of the JLU verse
TWOBATS > Jokebat
What episode is the first clip from?
It’s from second chance
Stupid reason to hate batman. What was he supposed to do?
🔥🤙🏼🫶🏼
:,)
Hh
Underrated edit
The sad part is is that its the two face side saying this not Harvey
Yet Bruce caused him to be Two Face
Unfortunately, two-face was always part of Harvey. You can see him surfacing every time Dent is under severe stress or in bouts of great anger.
The scarring is just the collapse of the mental barrier Harvey had placed on two-face.
Telltale game series shows us that by giving us a Harvey who loses his self-control even if you choose to save him from penguin and prevent him from getting scarred
No, where did you get that from?
@@imed-ha77 He stopped Harvey and he caused a malfunction in the fsctory causing Harvey to become two faced
@@Kazuma_DrakeHarvey’s darker side would have always been present even without the scarring, it was the result of a lifetime of repressed rage, not a single accident
@@sandwichjones6995 Let me put this into words I was misunderstood in wording it Bruce caused him to be Two Face by burning him if the Other Harvey (When he wasn't scarred) took care of them then he wouldn't scar him to actially have two faces
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Thanks you sm!!! I’m glad I conveyed this so well!!! I’m really proud of this edit and I’m glad you are too
@cutesnowybunny12 yesss you nailed this edit and you best believe I'll read those btas comics as soon as I can get my hands on them, I need more Twobats content! ^^
@@Sanguinary_BriarYou can find them for free online! You can probably find them by just searching their names!
I’m going to comment the btas comics (Bruharvey edition) brb!
Edit: I got the names so it’s “The Batman adventures issue 22”, “the batman and Robin adventures issue 1, 2, 22”, “Batman Gotham adventures 12, 47, 50”, “Batman adventures 1, 9 (2003)”
Those are the main ones but there’s probably more! I can send you the links to them if you’re interested I have them saved I think (as long as you don’t mind ads)