Finally a show with a great group of panelists that actually contribute well to the conversation and have a basis on what they are talking about, it’s probably the best footy show in the recent years
coastShooterKills classic. Voting for the working class to get smashed. No min wage, 👍 so the less fortunate being taken advantage of and the gap between the rich and poor increasing. Great logic
I don’t think we can blame him for saad and Joey. I think you’ve gotta blame the pernicious culture around the club at the moment, they’re heading for rock bottom soon enough. The essendon footy club needs to get in front of this, and be transparent about what is going on in the club.
@@Chuckakhan The whole approach to the Daniher trade last year was the culture manifesting itself. They could have gotten something really good out of Sydney if they were willing to negotiate professionally. He has already telegraphed that he is going to do the same with Saad.
@@Chuckakhan as a pies fan I'm close with the bombers due to my grandpa and I'm not surprised if it has to do with woosha leaving the way he did he picked the club off it's knees and darkest days u can see woosha was a well liked bloke
I will never forget our club president in 2007 after sacking sheedy “trust us, we always get these decisions right”. They haven’t made a good decision since then. They’ve now got a new guy, Paul Brasher. I think he’s the real deal and will turn us around, but it may take years
@J G Bro who tf are you? When did this ever have anything to do with Soccer? The only reason Soccer is so popular is because it’s very simple and accessible for poor people to play
12 months ago the St Kilda football club was just about at rock bottom. Coach was sacked and another year missing finals by heaps. 12 months later and we’re in the semi final. I know essendon is way more messed up atm than saints were then, but I believe in clubs having massive turnarounds. They just need the right people there to make it happen and not dope heads who think they know everything about running footy clubs and are in reality delusional morons who try and hold onto players who clearly want to leave, and set the club further and further back.... but I believe in essendon only going up from here.
Saints Sam I hope so. 16 years for this club is a long time. The lack of draft picks with the drugs saga did not help. As a Essendon person I hope the Saints go well as I barrack for the underdogs’n
@@zingleraster9124 Thanks mate!! Appreciate it. I have a lot of mates who barrack for the bombers. That's not the only reason why I feel for their supporters in this situation. I know the feeling of a club crisis very very well. The saints have been through the dark valleys and back these past 10 years. 16 years though is through hell and back. Very difficult to support a club when it's at a constant stalemate...
Spot on mate, let's not forget how bad the cats were in 2006 & look how quickly they turned it around. Not saying Essendon can do what the cats did then, but to your point it can turn around quickly. One of the big problems I can see is they look over-coached at the moment, just simplify it down to bare basics without all these tactics/systems/game plans & let the players do what they do best, play
I'm a Richmond member and I have a VERY good memory of the hard times. It's awesome of where we are now but we are very aware of the hard work involved to get where we are. I want every team firing and doing well but more importantly, being strong and culturally sound. Essendon will turn the corner, just like Brisbane, St Kilda and Port.
It’s tough being a 26 year old supporter of the bombers. My earliest childhood memories are flashes of hirdy and Lloydy, winning flags and making finals. But since I was 10 years old we haven’t managed to finish higher on the ladder then 7th. Haven’t won a final for 16 years. Had to endure the shame, humiliation and bullying that came for years and years over the supplements scandal, all the while watching your childhood idol fall to the lowest of the low during it all. And then when it seemed like we were finally coming good again and maybe shaping up as a half decent side? Boom it’s all downhill again. Best players walking out the door. Totally unhappy playing list, disenfranchised coaches and players, talk of another 3-5 year rebuild. People revel in our misery and I get it. But jeez this really sucks. Coping with this and a full Melbourne lockdown since March has not made 2020 enjoyable at all, throw in losing a job ontop. Please just get the right players, coaches and admins in to make our club a successful one again. Us fans deserve a little joy ...
Fax I was like 8 when the bombers won that flag in 2000, was a fantastic time to be a kid supporting the bombers going to the games every other week with my old man, getting the scarf plugged through the car window on the way home. Tbh I’ve had little interest in footy since about 2010, practically zero after then until it started looking up for the dons again a couple years ago
And a year on it is no better. The players have to take more responsibility. They win everything is fine. They lose it is the coaches fault. Let the disgruntled players go and start again.
Sam made a good point about Essendons list. The recruiting has been good enough. Some not so good, Shiel and Stringer were a waste of good money and picks, But the environment has driven too many of the players with too much talent away.
This video has aged very well for Essendon and very badly for Matthew Lloyd. The club is currently in its best position in probably 15 years. The youth coming through, the culture, the game plan. Everything looking good. Can see Essendon being top 4 in 2-3 years
Auditing Australia Group . As a Swan supporter, I breathed a sigh of relief when he didn’t get through to us. Great player on his day, but he is more than capable of being a sook as well, Plus the man is injury prone. I don’t care how good you are, but a history of injuries, means the club is asking for trouble.
we needed to get rid of him but sydney wasnt prepared to give us a serious offer (probably fair enough tbh), hes in a lot better shape now and we've built a bit of hype around his fitness, and hopefully we can leverage that to get a lot better of a deal than what we had on the table before.
I don't understand how Dodoro has survived when he's the reason the players who wanted to leave are kept against their wishes like an ex girlfriend that won't let go
As a cats member theres nothing more important than management lists , I think Lloyd should be involved in this department ,he was there when sheedy was there and a club legend , should be cleansed now - everything
As someone who pulled on the boots many years ago. . .I would do anything for a coach that I loved and more importantly believed in. .And I would never leave the boys who I played and fought with. . As someone who bleeds Red & Black im saddened by whats going on and all the negative questions {which I understand have to be asked} . Im calling for a NEW Coach. Someone with vision. . Commitment . . Someone who understands what is required {the hard work} to win a final. . Essendon has lost it self belief and we need Leadership ! ! I know Sheedy's dont come past very often . . But thats what we need. . Look at Damien Hardwick. . Toughness breeds Tough. . Fight ! I Love the Bombers . . Hope they can see clearly and make the brave but necessary calls. PS Love listening to Mathew Lloyd. Very proud of you Matty . .
Essendon reminds me of Manchester United. Under a great coach for a long time with lots of success but failed miserably afterwards. We will see how Rutten and his assistant goes. They have a tough job turning things around.
Essendon's biggest mistake was forcing Daniher to stay. Not only did they miss out on 2 early picks, it damaged the playing culture. If players don't want to play for the club, no point keeping them around, as sad as that sounds, take what you can get while they can get it.
Technically they didn’t force him to stay. At the time, Joe wanted to go to Sydney, and the Bombers were asking for a fair price in the trade and Sydney weren’t prepared to make that happen so the trade fell through.
@@azzaprime7257 I think they wanted (at the time) first year player Nick Blakey and a second round or two first rounds, but given the precedent set by the Tim Kelly trade the year before they had fair reason to play hard ball
That's the nature of AFL now. If the club doesn't have success, mercenaries will look to jump to clubs that are. Daniher isn't looking at being traded to gold Coast or North Melbourne, he wants to go to the premiership favourites. A lazy footballer who wants success to be handed to him instead of earning it.
U also gotta remember with essendons list atm no way in hell flag contenders surely u can see why Joey wants to win a flag brisbane have a history of medically helping players revive there careers
@Guybrush3pwood Marlon Pickett doesn't deserve a medal tbf one or two good games how lucky for him tho and I agree as a pies fan I can definitely see the future at the lions is much brighter then the bombers who look like they are a bunch of corpses every week
Don't really understand how things are done in 🇦🇺 but I have learned a lot about footy from watching Matthew on this show from 🇺🇸. Would he not be the guy to bring the glory to the Bombers back. Eddie(👍) runs Collingwood they seem to be thriving. Best wishes
It sucks that after the media called this year 'a free hit at a premiership' with hub management, covid etc (indicating that teams have excuses this year) - it's been the year when we fall apart completely. We've had problems in the hubs, a player test positive, injuries everywhere, and now a bunch of our best players wanting out. And after all that, Caro celebrates our shambles every Monday night.
Agreed with lloydy at the time. Has been a big turn around. Really happy with the culture change and I really Look forward to watching them play their brand of footy every week. Win or lose
tbh i dont want joey he had 1 good game and cant kick straight so i say lets get a new bloody forward that we can draft or find and see what happens. For saad well i really wished he didnt go but i mean he as been here for 3 years so hopefully we get a nice draft pick from the blues and see what that bloke can do
Saad looks flashy but he's a bit of a turnover merchant and comes up short on defense. Could work out ok for the Dons. Daniher's kicking alone makes him good to trade. Nothing worse than Essendon with the monentum let down by bad kicking at goal.
As if you don't want joe. He will kick 50+ goals next year at Brisbane if he gets there . Essendon midfield and forward line has no synergy. Not danihers fault they don't kick it to him well . In that one good game he.took at least 6 contested marks kick 3.4 and was the only time your forward line looked dangerous all year .
I have met people from the Essendon footy club. I have personally met Woosher too. I heard about a lot of Dissent from Ex players and board people about the Administration of the Club at least 4 years ago. Seems not a lot has changed.
I'm hurting Essendon fan 47 years what is going on shaking my Head Don't watch football now but go Geelong and go Melbourne Storm watch Storms every games
Big difference between Essendon and my Swans. We are down at the moment but the club knows how to build a team, and when it comes to culture, no one in the league has a stronger culture than the Swans
Daniher is a real stain. He hasn't contributed or met expectations. Saad is a consistent contributer, low profile and is justified to get out. Daniher owes Essendon, but now he can go under achieve elsewhere. And I'm a West Coast fan.
I am an eagle supporter too. They got Daniher for a bargain under father son rule. Could they turn Daniher into an Elite defender like Gov & Darcy Moore? Less pressure to kick goals and if Joe is fit, imagine him alongside Harris Andrews.
@@hoangtu3366 that's not a bad idea. In that case whoever picks him up shouldn't pay him a packet until he proves himself. I think sometimes a player who has earlier success loses their drive and they become mediocre. If they make him step back a few pegs he might have a desire to prove everyone he's a good player.
@@SkandiaAUS I hope the same thing does not happen to Tim Kelly because we gave up a lot of draft picks to get him and he was disappointing in the finals. Still 5 more years with Tim so hopefully he will deliver. There is always risk when you sign someone on good money for a long-term and they don't live up on expectations.
Danihers a mutt, bombers pumped years into backing him in waiting for him to develop, them waiting for him to get over his constant injuries, then after years of being an underperforming key forward who barely played he decides to bail? ead. good riddance
We're just a complete basket case of a club. The players that don't wanna be there go we don't want you if you're not 100% in. Our list manager should've been gone years ago, in the time he's been there we've only made finals a handful of times and couldn't even win one single finals game. The whole coaching transition thing was a complete disgrace and was never going to work out good. we aren't going anywhere anytime soon and i can understand why players wanna jump ship, i'm not happy but i'd want success too.
Some Essendon fans and their coterie group deserve many more years of pain and I hope that’s what transpires. They wanted Woosha out and treated him poorly and now they will have to deal with it.
Seven months on and it's a different story. Truck has a game plam and has instilled resilience. The draft picks have sparked the older players even if Eddie only picked Read and Cox correctly from his 10 suggestions. There seems to be harmony and we look to be better off than Carlton as compared to at the beginning
So Daniher whos player 10 games in 2 years and Fantasia who has played 5 games in 2 years wants to leave... let them go... no brainer. But sad to see Saad go
this is why we have to get some good kids in, essendon has been a 18-6 team for 20 years not competing or going out first week finals stuck in mediocrity
For the love of God... The President of Collingwood is giving his scouting ideas to us and Essendon, yet he’s cut off and dismissed by a journalist. Shut up Caro. Let the experts finish when they speak.
The whole competition needs a reality check. The old guard of Victorian football combined with corporatisation of the game has distorted its own reality towards a product that has football as a minor part of its product. This show is one of the best examples of how disgustingly this "industry" treats players (young men) and staff (ex players). I used to play at league level before AFL started and now I cannot even take my kids to the game. Sitting in sterile stadiums treated like a unit of consumption. Forced to endure earsplitting ads and gambling culture forced down my kids throat. NO THANKS AFL your product is anti human and pro money just like every other corporation.
"Club culture" is a meaningless term. Look at Steele Sidebottom running around half naked during the postponement of the season, a member of the leadership group and Collingwood just beat West Coast at home. Try telling me West Coast had a good culture in the mid-2000s, they won games on the Friday night and we're racking lines on the Saturday. The Essendon list is simply not as talented as everyone thought it was.
Club culture is different from off field behaviour, players can rack up lines or run around naked drunk but if they are confident the club is heading for success and all want to play for each other and have a common goal which is what club culture means they will win games. A group can have a group of players who stay home drinking herb tea every night but if they arn't confident of the club or each other they will lose games
@@raphaelkoch1573 True and teams in the 70's and 80's were partying and getting drunk every weekend. Even the 90's. Essendon players dont seem to trust the club after the drug scandal.
We have had great players, they have never all been put together. It's clear the coaching staff are not gettign the best out of the players. Even PArish, merret and mcgrath could be better.Ithink they are all great, but could be brownlow material. If we lose merret we done
One of the saddest days is it Matty??? Get into the real world matey. Bombers have to go back a bit to go forward. I am glad they are ringing the changes to hopefully get different results in future.
I actually don't think things are as bad as the media beat up, we're only losing underperforming, overrated players, with the exception of Saad, but then he's been at several clubs within a few years, so that could be more a reflection on him.. McKenna may have been unhappy but he clearly doesn't want to play AFL anywhere or else he would have pursued other options..
I like your take on it...I think there's issues but we won't know until the end of the first full year of Rutten alone...how's he supposed to get his game on when Worsfold's having his 2c worth?...like your Mum coming along to the dance to supervise...
These players clearly don't wanna work hard for the dream just leaving to other clubs who they think has a chance to a flag 🤷♂️ it's that simple no one wanted to step up at the club and these players just want the easy way to the flag cya if you don't wanna be there just leave and go
That The Bombers have come to this is deeply disturbing and in the end, shows an inability to come to terms with what beleaguered a once proud club. Essendon has never been able to 'get the drug saga Albatross' off its back and until it does it will remain as such.
I also blame the AFL media hype giving the Bombers high expectations year after year putting pressure on them to perform and fans getting frustrated when they are not delivering. Carlton went through the same thing and asked a coach they should have kept in Ratten. Remember, they know we are coming? Can you smell wha the Blues are cooking? I am Carlton... Essendon is now the same, all hype, fans were waiting for the Bombers to hit top 4 again since 2016....
AFL LAUGH = North Melbourne Coach Rhyce Shaw should be called "The Magician" , because he makes players disappear ! ! ! 😶 ( I know this video is about Essendon, but the joke is too good to waste. ) 💀
@@mrfivelive The question is can he still produce similar results in the future? He was horrendous this year and he has already hit his ceiling. He is on the way down. North are in full rebuild mode so they need the draft picks. Ben Brown cost them nothing, he was a rookie pick up. North have to take a risk & go back to the draft as no big stars want to go there and hovering around 12 to 7 place on the ladder for the past 25 years is going nowhere. Rhyce needs more help from people around him and to get someone with senior coaching experiences. He was destined to fail with the players & assistance coach at his disposal.
Oh C'mon. The Essendon Bombers have been one of the most successful AFL/VFL clubs in history. 16 Premierships, '16', equal to Carlton Blues. How many have St Kilda, Bulldogs, Swans, Lions, Dockers, West Coast, Gold Coast, GWS. North Melbourne have won.
@@jeffreyepsteinseggshapedpe143 2001 wasn't that long ago, It's only 19 years. 19 years is nothing compared to 60 odd years for the Dees. I'll wait, hopefully in my lifetime I'll see one more flag as I've been lucky enough to see 4. Gotta keep thinking positive.
Are you seriously questioning the Eagles who have won 4 in around 30 years in the modern era compare to when it was only the VFL not AFL? The Eagles having to travel every 2nd week and having over 100k members, playing finals regularly and have a brand new home ground.
Top 4??? Wow talking about setting the expectations too high. At the start of the year scaping into the top 8 maybe, but no way top 4. Not with Tigers, Cats. Eagles, Bulldogs, Saints and Giants, even they missed out, are as strong as they are.
Damn right, half a game ahead. 1995 vs 2000. Not much difference considering Essendon were thrown into the dark ages due to the supplement saga. Carlton ain't no Geelong, Richmond, Hawthorn or even Collingwood. Even the Doggies are way ahead of Carlton.
The Bombers list just isn’t as good as the club thinks! Since the players came back from the ban, there had been talk every year since that they would make top 4 and be a flag contender.. haven’t come close to either... they have a mediocre list, scattered with a few so called ‘stars’
These guys talk more seriously about football than our politicians do about our country
@@coastshooterkills4614 Damn straight
Finally a show with a great group of panelists that actually contribute well to the conversation and have a basis on what they are talking about, it’s probably the best footy show in the recent years
Yeh cos it means way more!
coastShooterKills classic.
Voting for the working class to get smashed. No min wage, 👍 so the less fortunate being taken advantage of and the gap between the rich and poor increasing.
Great logic
its saad to see him go
The thumbnail should've said "One of the Saadest Days".
U dog
Rich coming from a north fan
yeah where did you finish yeah thats what i thought you dog
Joseph Nissan have a sook, rich coming from the 2021 wooden spoon supporters😂😂😂
Ahh you're a Roos supporter too...
I love Ross and Lordo
I used to cry when my dad chopped onions. I miss onions. he was a good dog
I feel like this guy speaks on the state of the Essendon football club every week lol
Every year there has to be at least one team to bash to feel better about the state of the club you support. Thanks bombers!
that's because he does. Vic-centric media and this show is right in the heart of it
The one consistency at Essendon in the last 15 years has been their idiot list manager.
I don’t think we can blame him for saad and Joey. I think you’ve gotta blame the pernicious culture around the club at the moment, they’re heading for rock bottom soon enough. The essendon footy club needs to get in front of this, and be transparent about what is going on in the club.
@@Chuckakhan The whole approach to the Daniher trade last year was the culture manifesting itself. They could have gotten something really good out of Sydney if they were willing to negotiate professionally. He has already telegraphed that he is going to do the same with Saad.
@@Chuckakhan as a pies fan I'm close with the bombers due to my grandpa and I'm not surprised if it has to do with woosha leaving the way he did he picked the club off it's knees and darkest days u can see woosha was a well liked bloke
I will never forget our club president in 2007 after sacking sheedy “trust us, we always get these decisions right”.
They haven’t made a good decision since then.
They’ve now got a new guy, Paul Brasher. I think he’s the real deal and will turn us around, but it may take years
@@ryancurwen-walker6076 3-4 years I reckon sad unfortunately but it's needed
I wish they'd look back on this a review what they said, 7 months is a long time in football
The players are part of the culture. The players need to be accountable and responsible for it.
Yeah I came back after beating West Coast to laugh at this
Haha same
Win a final lol
@J G Bro who tf are you? When did this ever have anything to do with Soccer? The only reason Soccer is so popular is because it’s very simple and accessible for poor people to play
And we are right back
@@ise5356 what about now
Listening to Eddie talk now in hindsight is nearly hypnotic, he says it to perfectly
Well, well, well boys, look who’s playing September footy in 2021
Yep
Well well well look who still hasn't won a final in 20 years, hope you enjoyed the 6 goals your club scored in the 2021 finals series.
wild that Eddie was the only one with accurate foresight on this topic in the end.
12 months ago the St Kilda football club was just about at rock bottom. Coach was sacked and another year missing finals by heaps. 12 months later and we’re in the semi final.
I know essendon is way more messed up atm than saints were then, but I believe in clubs having massive turnarounds. They just need the right people there to make it happen and not dope heads who think they know everything about running footy clubs and are in reality delusional morons who try and hold onto players who clearly want to leave, and set the club further and further back.... but I believe in essendon only going up from here.
Saints Sam I hope so. 16 years for this club is a long time. The lack of draft picks with the drugs saga did not help. As a Essendon person I hope the Saints go well as I barrack for the underdogs’n
@@zingleraster9124 Thanks mate!! Appreciate it. I have a lot of mates who barrack for the bombers. That's not the only reason why I feel for their supporters in this situation. I know the feeling of a club crisis very very well. The saints have been through the dark valleys and back these past 10 years. 16 years though is through hell and back. Very difficult to support a club when it's at a constant stalemate...
Brisbane Lions: wooden spoon in 2017. 2nd in 2019. 2nd in 2020 and in a Prelim. Things can turn around pretty quick when stuff gets sorted out.
Spot on mate, let's not forget how bad the cats were in 2006 & look how quickly they turned it around. Not saying Essendon can do what the cats did then, but to your point it can turn around quickly. One of the big problems I can see is they look over-coached at the moment, just simplify it down to bare basics without all these tactics/systems/game plans & let the players do what they do best, play
I'm a Richmond member and I have a VERY good memory of the hard times. It's awesome of where we are now but we are very aware of the hard work involved to get where we are. I want every team firing and doing well but more importantly, being strong and culturally sound. Essendon will turn the corner, just like Brisbane, St Kilda and Port.
It’s tough being a 26 year old supporter of the bombers. My earliest childhood memories are flashes of hirdy and Lloydy, winning flags and making finals. But since I was 10 years old we haven’t managed to finish higher on the ladder then 7th. Haven’t won a final for 16 years. Had to endure the shame, humiliation and bullying that came for years and years over the supplements scandal, all the while watching your childhood idol fall to the lowest of the low during it all. And then when it seemed like we were finally coming good again and maybe shaping up as a half decent side? Boom it’s all downhill again. Best players walking out the door. Totally unhappy playing list, disenfranchised coaches and players, talk of another 3-5 year rebuild. People revel in our misery and I get it. But jeez this really sucks. Coping with this and a full Melbourne lockdown since March has not made 2020 enjoyable at all, throw in losing a job ontop. Please just get the right players, coaches and admins in to make our club a successful one again. Us fans deserve a little joy ...
I feel ya man
Fax I was like 8 when the bombers won that flag in 2000, was a fantastic time to be a kid supporting the bombers going to the games every other week with my old man, getting the scarf plugged through the car window on the way home. Tbh I’ve had little interest in footy since about 2010, practically zero after then until it started looking up for the dons again a couple years ago
And a year on it is no better. The players have to take more responsibility. They win everything is fine. They lose it is the coaches fault. Let the disgruntled players go and start again.
@@orgasmified Sad re reading this comment after the past week 🤦🏻♂️
Sam made a good point about Essendons list. The recruiting has been good enough. Some not so good, Shiel and Stringer were a waste of good money and picks, But the environment has driven too many of the players with too much talent away.
Stringer is the biz
Damn, 3 years ago …and still a rabble now
This video has aged very well for Essendon and very badly for Matthew Lloyd. The club is currently in its best position in probably 15 years. The youth coming through, the culture, the game plan. Everything looking good. Can see Essendon being top 4 in 2-3 years
They haven't won a Finals game since 2004. Only 6 Finals appearances since then. It's way too early to forecast a bright future.
I think Matthew Lloyd would be very happy that this has aged badly for him.
@@samirskinner6662 hahaha how did Essendon go round 1?
@@shaneDylan33 Not very well, unfortunately for them. Were well off the pace
@Justin Kassis I stand corrected. Well done lloydy
Lloydy was never one of my favorite players when he was playing but, Gee! he's a great commentator - I really like his input.
Essendon are better off without Daniher we should have let him go last year he’s always injured and not good enough
john smith porno?
Same with fantasia.. very soft football body
Patrick Bateman his 70s pornstar face mustache.
Auditing Australia Group . As a Swan supporter, I breathed a sigh of relief when he didn’t get through to us. Great player on his day, but he is more than capable of being a sook as well, Plus the man is injury prone. I don’t care how good you are, but a history of injuries, means the club is asking for trouble.
we needed to get rid of him but sydney wasnt prepared to give us a serious offer (probably fair enough tbh), hes in a lot better shape now and we've built a bit of hype around his fitness, and hopefully we can leverage that to get a lot better of a deal than what we had on the table before.
I don't understand how Dodoro has survived when he's the reason the players who wanted to leave are kept against their wishes like an ex girlfriend that won't let go
Kenneth Edward McKenzie
Because Dodoro gets the picks right, and honestly, Essendon’s list was never their problem
As a cats member theres nothing more important than management lists , I think Lloyd should be involved in this department ,he was there when sheedy was there and a club legend , should be cleansed now - everything
Interesting to watch this in hindsight, The trade season turned from disaster to needed miracle for the bombers
As someone who pulled on the boots many years ago. . .I would do anything for a coach that I loved and more importantly believed in. .And I would never leave the boys who I played and fought with. . As someone who bleeds Red & Black im saddened by whats going on and all the negative questions {which I understand have to be asked} . Im calling for a NEW Coach. Someone with vision. . Commitment . . Someone who understands what is required {the hard work} to win a final. . Essendon has lost it self belief and we need Leadership ! ! I know Sheedy's dont come past very often . . But thats what we need. . Look at Damien Hardwick. . Toughness breeds Tough. . Fight ! I Love the Bombers . . Hope they can see clearly and make the brave but necessary calls.
PS Love listening to Mathew Lloyd. Very proud of you Matty . .
Essendon reminds me of Manchester United. Under a great coach for a long time with lots of success but failed miserably afterwards. We will see how Rutten and his assistant goes. They have a tough job turning things around.
@@hoangtu3366 Roger that brother. . Its hard to put a old head on young shoulders. . Big job being a coach. .
Soloman and Caracella...toughness and brains...who's with me?
Maybe Essendon need a training camp some sort of spiritual retreat
"Anyone got the number of that retreat Crows went to"
1800-scientology
They did that in the 2000 pre-season, worked then, why not try again haha
Essendon's biggest mistake was forcing Daniher to stay. Not only did they miss out on 2 early picks, it damaged the playing culture. If players don't want to play for the club, no point keeping them around, as sad as that sounds, take what you can get while they can get it.
Couldn't agree more. It is weird clubs try to hold onto players that have mentally checked out of the club.
Technically they didn’t force him to stay. At the time, Joe wanted to go to Sydney, and the Bombers were asking for a fair price in the trade and Sydney weren’t prepared to make that happen so the trade fell through.
@@hugeiftrue4224 Fair price in trade? Wasnt it 2 first round draft picks for the trade?
@@azzaprime7257 I think they wanted (at the time) first year player Nick Blakey and a second round or two first rounds, but given the precedent set by the Tim Kelly trade the year before they had fair reason to play hard ball
That's the nature of AFL now. If the club doesn't have success, mercenaries will look to jump to clubs that are. Daniher isn't looking at being traded to gold Coast or North Melbourne, he wants to go to the premiership favourites. A lazy footballer who wants success to be handed to him instead of earning it.
They work their whole life for a premiership. Footy is a team sport and if your team is letting you down you have a right to leave it
U also gotta remember with essendons list atm no way in hell flag contenders surely u can see why Joey wants to win a flag brisbane have a history of medically helping players revive there careers
Joe doesn't owe Essendon anything, the club has let him down and almost ruined his career
@Guybrush3pwood Marlon Pickett doesn't deserve a medal tbf one or two good games how lucky for him tho and I agree as a pies fan I can definitely see the future at the lions is much brighter then the bombers who look like they are a bunch of corpses every week
Gee this comment didn't age very well
It's ironically one year exactly and it's amazing how much has come to fruition..
😂😂🤣🤣 Has it???
This aged like milk
Good move saad
Every team goes through a rebuild. That's all there is to it.
Hate caro but as a bombers fan I genuinely enjoy seeing eddie be objective and supportive of efc.
It looks like he knows a lot about how to improve the club. I reakon he should do something about it.
nah he never will. Too money hungry.
I used to crush cans it was soda pressing
Watching these commentators sh*tcan Essendon for 18 minutes made my lunch break
As an Essendon supporter, I actually enjoyed watching this. It’s a good insight.
It’s pretty simple Coaches are people managers Example is Craig Ballamy at Melbourne Storm he’s a players coach and his record shows it
15:00 sounds wonderful Eddie, potential is a great thing, tell us who your scouts are chasing? You wouldn't have mentioned them!
Caro: "With respect" ...
*proceeds to be unnecessarily rude and disrespectful*
“With Respect” is ironically one of the most disrespectful prepositions anyone can say
This aged wel
Don't really understand how things are done in 🇦🇺 but I have learned a lot about footy from watching Matthew on this show from 🇺🇸. Would he not be the guy to bring the glory to the Bombers back. Eddie(👍) runs Collingwood they seem to be thriving. Best wishes
It sucks that after the media called this year 'a free hit at a premiership' with hub management, covid etc (indicating that teams have excuses this year) - it's been the year when we fall apart completely. We've had problems in the hubs, a player test positive, injuries everywhere, and now a bunch of our best players wanting out. And after all that, Caro celebrates our shambles every Monday night.
Losing saad and getting hind was one of the best things for us
Bulldogs were in the exact same spot when Ryan Griffin (the captain) left the club. A new coach came in, a new culture surrounded him
Agreed with lloydy at the time. Has been a big turn around. Really happy with the culture change and I really Look forward to watching them play their brand of footy every week. Win or lose
tbh i dont want joey he had 1 good game and cant kick straight so i say lets get a new bloody forward that we can draft or find and see what happens. For saad well i really wished he didnt go but i mean he as been here for 3 years so hopefully we get a nice draft pick from the blues and see what that bloke can do
You might be getting Jeremy Cameron or Ben brown
Joe is crap
Saad looks flashy but he's a bit of a turnover merchant and comes up short on defense. Could work out ok for the Dons. Daniher's kicking alone makes him good to trade. Nothing worse than Essendon with the monentum let down by bad kicking at goal.
As if you don't want joe.
He will kick 50+ goals next year at Brisbane if he gets there .
Essendon midfield and forward line has no synergy.
Not danihers fault they don't kick it to him well .
In that one good game he.took at least 6 contested marks kick 3.4 and was the only time your forward line looked dangerous all year .
Joe can’t kick straight
I have met people from the Essendon footy club. I have personally met Woosher too. I heard about a lot of Dissent from Ex players and board people about the Administration of the Club at least 4 years ago. Seems not a lot has changed.
I'm hurting Essendon fan 47 years what is going on shaking my Head Don't watch football now but go Geelong and go Melbourne Storm watch Storms every games
Thank the heavens for dodorio! Got some very very very good players in the drapth and the trade period. Only going to get much better
Coach us please Lloyd, your a champion.
Big difference between Essendon and my Swans. We are down at the moment but the club knows how to build a team, and when it comes to culture, no one in the league has a stronger culture than the Swans
We've got 16 cups in the cupboard, I reckon we know how to build a team. How many have South M..ahh Sydney got again?
Where is fantasia now
McGuire reckons it takes 30 years to turn around ! LOST THE PLOT.
brett brett - it took Richmond 40
Daniher is a real stain. He hasn't contributed or met expectations. Saad is a consistent contributer, low profile and is justified to get out. Daniher owes Essendon, but now he can go under achieve elsewhere. And I'm a West Coast fan.
You are so correct Daniher is a waste of space
I am an eagle supporter too. They got Daniher for a bargain under father son rule. Could they turn Daniher into an Elite defender like Gov & Darcy Moore? Less pressure to kick goals and if Joe is fit, imagine him alongside Harris Andrews.
@@hoangtu3366 that's not a bad idea. In that case whoever picks him up shouldn't pay him a packet until he proves himself. I think sometimes a player who has earlier success loses their drive and they become mediocre. If they make him step back a few pegs he might have a desire to prove everyone he's a good player.
@@SkandiaAUS I hope the same thing does not happen to Tim Kelly because we gave up a lot of draft picks to get him and he was disappointing in the finals. Still 5 more years with Tim so hopefully he will deliver. There is always risk when you sign someone on good money for a long-term and they don't live up on expectations.
Danihers a mutt, bombers pumped years into backing him in waiting for him to develop, them waiting for him to get over his constant injuries, then after years of being an underperforming key forward who barely played he decides to bail? ead. good riddance
We're just a complete basket case of a club. The players that don't wanna be there go we don't want you if you're not 100% in. Our list manager should've been gone years ago, in the time he's been there we've only made finals a handful of times and couldn't even win one single finals game. The whole coaching transition thing was a complete disgrace and was never going to work out good. we aren't going anywhere anytime soon and i can understand why players wanna jump ship, i'm not happy but i'd want success too.
Some Essendon fans and their coterie group deserve many more years of pain and I hope that’s what transpires.
They wanted Woosha out and treated him poorly and now they will have to deal with it.
Every club goes through a period of time where they don't win games, don't get to the finals, get the wooden spoon and seemed staved of success.
well champ this has been going on for 20 years
Yeah not after we trade for players like shiel, stringer, smith and saad. We had four 25 year olds staring at traces
Here after both Daniher and McKenna won a premiership at Brisbane.
Seven months on and it's a different story. Truck has a game plam and has instilled resilience. The draft picks have sparked the older players even if Eddie only picked Read and Cox correctly from his 10 suggestions. There seems to be harmony and we look to be better off than Carlton as compared to at the beginning
Rachel Griffiths! I think Ed meant the great philosopher Rachel Hunter
So Daniher whos player 10 games in 2 years and Fantasia who has played 5 games in 2 years wants to leave... let them go... no brainer. But sad to see Saad go
Carlton supporter who agrees with you. Enjoy the Brisbane heat on your soft tissue and soft mental problems Daniher...HA ha HA
adam gould yeah I agree! Always big and competitive matches between the 2 clubs! No matter where they sit on the ladder!
I'm so glad I support Hawks. Id hate life if this was my team.
this is why we have to get some good kids in, essendon has been a 18-6 team for 20 years not competing or going out first week finals stuck in mediocrity
For the love of God...
The President of Collingwood is giving his scouting ideas to us and Essendon, yet he’s cut off and dismissed by a journalist.
Shut up Caro. Let the experts finish when they speak.
Simple essendon should put me in charge, wed win a premiership within five years.
What's that saads 5th club now?
The whole competition needs a reality check. The old guard of Victorian football combined with corporatisation of the game has distorted its own reality towards a product that has football as a minor part of its product. This show is one of the best examples of how disgustingly this "industry" treats players (young men) and staff (ex players).
I used to play at league level before AFL started and now I cannot even take my kids to the game. Sitting in sterile stadiums treated like a unit of consumption. Forced to endure earsplitting ads and gambling culture forced down my kids throat. NO THANKS AFL your product is anti human and pro money just like every other corporation.
"Club culture" is a meaningless term. Look at Steele Sidebottom running around half naked during the postponement of the season, a member of the leadership group and Collingwood just beat West Coast at home. Try telling me West Coast had a good culture in the mid-2000s, they won games on the Friday night and we're racking lines on the Saturday.
The Essendon list is simply not as talented as everyone thought it was.
Club culture is different from off field behaviour, players can rack up lines or run around naked drunk but if they are confident the club is heading for success and all want to play for each other and have a common goal which is what club culture means they will win games. A group can have a group of players who stay home drinking herb tea every night but if they arn't confident of the club or each other they will lose games
@@raphaelkoch1573 True and teams in the 70's and 80's were partying and getting drunk every weekend. Even the 90's. Essendon players dont seem to trust the club after the drug scandal.
" they won games on the Friday night and were racking lines on the Saturday."
Congratulations, you've just described a good culture
Good on Caro, shut up Eddie, turn off.
All he kept bringing up was the sup saga again lol it gets old
@IJK Did you see the scenario or are you just a excitable young man?
john smith - on casual racism?
this is so much better than the footy show
We have had great players, they have never all been put together. It's clear the coaching staff are not gettign the best out of the players. Even PArish, merret and mcgrath could be better.Ithink they are all great, but could be brownlow material. If we lose merret we done
Is no one going to talk about getting Dean Solomon back at the club?
yes please...we need some Broken Hill back at the club...miss Solly...
One of the saddest days is it Matty??? Get into the real world matey. Bombers have to go back a bit to go forward. I am glad they are ringing the changes to hopefully get different results in future.
Big bustling Ross Lyon - actually very good in the media.
Matt always an icon at cawling it as it should
Thanks Eddie at 8:41 backing my call, Ross you grub back peddling.
Think right choices were made
It's so bizarre to watch Eddie be so correct
Essendon need to get Justin Langer in as a team mentality advisor from an outsider’s perspective.. 🏏
I know that a player has to have confidence in themselves but Joe Daniher appears to be very, very enamored with himself.
For a key forward who can’t kick a set shot for the life of him he shouldn’t have an ego like his
He was a cancer at Essendon. Look at the culture and how it has improved since he left.
@@dennishunt1590 looked good on the weekend
Didn’t Jake Carlisle say all this when he was there????
Ross Lyon is very insiteful and makes a lot of sense
Sorry Eddie wasn't Rachel Griffiths, my man it was the kiwi Rachel Hunter that uttered the famous line from the shampoo commercial.
Ben ruttin needs to speak about the club, no point in staying in the shadows its cowardly.
I actually don't think things are as bad as the media beat up, we're only losing underperforming, overrated players, with the exception of Saad, but then he's been at several clubs within a few years, so that could be more a reflection on him..
McKenna may have been unhappy but he clearly doesn't want to play AFL anywhere or else he would have pursued other options..
I like your take on it...I think there's issues but we won't know until the end of the first full year of Rutten alone...how's he supposed to get his game on when Worsfold's having his 2c worth?...like your Mum coming along to the dance to supervise...
well this aged really badly….Essendon playing finals in 2021 lol
These players clearly don't wanna work hard for the dream just leaving to other clubs who they think has a chance to a flag 🤷♂️ it's that simple no one wanted to step up at the club and these players just want the easy way to the flag cya if you don't wanna be there just leave and go
Lloyd be the coach pls
Not a bad idea.I don't see Rutten as a coach.Crows coaches don't have a great track record,even if they played in a successful team.
Daniher could and prob will b the best in afl.just another kik in da guts for our mighty bombers
all these players have been looking for the exit since it became obvious Rutten would replace Worsfold...
That The Bombers have come to this is deeply disturbing and in the end, shows an inability to come to terms with what beleaguered a once proud club. Essendon has never been able to 'get the drug saga Albatross' off its back and until it does it will remain as such.
I also blame the AFL media hype giving the Bombers high expectations year after year putting pressure on them to perform and fans getting frustrated when they are not delivering. Carlton went through the same thing and asked a coach they should have kept in Ratten. Remember, they know we are coming? Can you smell wha the Blues are cooking? I am Carlton... Essendon is now the same, all hype, fans were waiting for the Bombers to hit top 4 again since 2016....
As a carlton fan nothing makes me happier than hearing essesden being nothing more than a smouldering mess!!
@Andre Alste couldnt agree more GO THE BAGGERS!!!!
Carlton has been the ultimate mess and still are!!!
This aged well
It's not like the AFL needs another Essendon Bombers Premiership. Or Carlton or Collingwood or Hawthorn.
AFL LAUGH = North Melbourne Coach Rhyce Shaw should be called "The Magician" , because he makes players disappear ! ! ! 😶 ( I know this video is about Essendon, but the joke is too good to waste. ) 💀
@@mrfivelive hes not worth the money he's asking he was offered a good deal and he knocked it back so north said walk on
@@mrfivelive The question is can he still produce similar results in the future? He was horrendous this year and he has already hit his ceiling. He is on the way down. North are in full rebuild mode so they need the draft picks. Ben Brown cost them nothing, he was a rookie pick up. North have to take a risk & go back to the draft as no big stars want to go there and hovering around 12 to 7 place on the ladder for the past 25 years is going nowhere. Rhyce needs more help from people around him and to get someone with senior coaching experiences. He was destined to fail with the players & assistance coach at his disposal.
Oh C'mon. The Essendon Bombers have been one of the most successful AFL/VFL clubs in history. 16 Premierships, '16', equal to Carlton Blues. How many have St Kilda, Bulldogs, Swans, Lions, Dockers, West Coast, Gold Coast, GWS. North Melbourne have won.
They are talking about now not the past.
Useless since 2001 though
@@jeffreyepsteinseggshapedpe143 2001 wasn't that long ago, It's only 19 years. 19 years is nothing compared to 60 odd years for the Dees. I'll wait, hopefully in my lifetime I'll see one more flag as I've been lucky enough to see 4. Gotta keep thinking positive.
Are you seriously questioning the Eagles who have won 4 in around 30 years in the modern era compare to when it was only the VFL not AFL? The Eagles having to travel every 2nd week and having over 100k members, playing finals regularly and have a brand new home ground.
Too many Vic clubs it will happen sooner than later, 2 clubs will go and you don’t want to be a basket case when it happens
so how the bleep did they lose 6 players in a week, HOW
I wonder how much that 2 million dollar fine and Knights payout are hurting them. That's about 3 million down the toilet. Also Dodoro needs to go.
Half a game ahead?? When is the last time Essendon have won a final? Essendon were expected to finish top 4 this season...
Top 4??? Wow talking about setting the expectations too high. At the start of the year scaping into the top 8 maybe, but no way top 4. Not with Tigers, Cats. Eagles, Bulldogs, Saints and Giants, even they missed out, are as strong as they are.
@Steve Bondi I dont rate them either. I remember people talking them up at the start of the season.
@@cleversongokuh Im not an Essendon supporter so I couldnt care less about them. But I do remember people talking them up.
@@ckreuzer4001 well all those people who talked the bombers up were wrong 😁😉
Damn right, half a game ahead. 1995 vs 2000. Not much difference considering Essendon were thrown into the dark ages due to the supplement saga. Carlton ain't no Geelong, Richmond, Hawthorn or even Collingwood. Even the Doggies are way ahead of Carlton.
eddies such a flog
Who came back to this after Essendon made the 8 and beat the Bulldogs 😂
I would assume Saad was told to say that upon joining EFC in 2017, due to the drug saga.
The Bombers list just isn’t as good as the club thinks! Since the players came back from the ban, there had been talk every year since that they would make top 4 and be a flag contender.. haven’t come close to either... they have a mediocre list, scattered with a few so called ‘stars’
Lloydy looks pretty saad today