This is EXACTLY the video I've been praying for. Yes, the cars are amazing, but I'm super interested in the BTS logistics, infrastructure and hardware that's used. Please please please do more stuff like this! Maybe some trackside camera stuff.
Emphatically seconded! I've been dying to know how the onboard cameras work, not to mention so much else about the TV broadcasts. It's all fascinating to me, and really goes to show how much incredible engineering and technological development is happening, and not just limited to the cars!
Making a series about this would be great. There is so much outside of camera that could be shown. Also maybe inside of cameras but that would be too deep technical.
Yes, but as a driver you don't see those vibrations because the human eyes and brain work to stabilize the image, but looking at the footage on TV is just awful. The best camera is the gyro cam on the car.
In my opinion (that may prove somewhat unpopular - but still: ) the helmet camera should be stabilized. Human eyes - together with inner ear vestibular system - removes much of the instability you see in the current HelmetCam view. So should the camera do. Current view is not natural and is dissimilar to what you actually visually experience.
but they're not really gyro. they're responding to the g force, kind of like when you go around a bend in the road and feel pushed to the outside of the car. has nothing to do with how banked the corner is
@@Scknows The effect is done entirely in post processing based on data from the g force sensors in the car. The camera itself is statically mounted and can not rotate at all
"In this edition of F1 TV’s Tech Talk, Craig Scarborough details how F1's iconic onboard camera shots work" ...except Craig only talks for like a minute. Dino does all the heavy lifting. Give the guy some credit @F1
Not just that, but the power of it as well! The ability to communicate with Biggin Hill and the various F1 team HQs, from all of the tracks, is incredible.
So much research and nobody's figured out that a slightly higher FOV have always made them more interesting to watch. The crazy zoom and perfect stabilisation really undersell the speed these cars actually go.
@@User57655 watch some onboards from the 90s. I think the vibration and FOV was perfect to show the visceral nature of these cars. Also wide FOV the static cams at places like Spa and Monaco, which have been got rid of because they don't show enough sponsorship.
@@User57655 Should come with a nausea warning, when i watched it i got dizzy. It never crossed my mind that gyro cams are gonna be used in f1, maybe for normal viewers it's the ooooh and ahhh factor, like how gen Z are editing the videos with all the zooms and tilting. I just want the car as a part of my tv and i can make out the suspension movement.
2:49 YESSS YEEESSSS I HAVE ALWAYS WANTED TO KNOW THAT, ITS BEEN MY BIGGEST QUESTION ABOUT F1. I thought it was a round rotating piece of glass that sits around the camera and spins around and is cleaned by a little piece of rubber that is out of frame. This makes way more sense and finally puts me at ease.
I like to say 1 week on Friday. I know its just practice and stuff but makes it sound closer to get more excited. I hate it when they have these breaks..
I never really gave much thought about the cameras before. Now seeing this its very interesting. Can you guys also make a video about tracks and how the cameras are there. You have this camera (mostly in the turns and on the kerbs) that is flat and the drivers drive over them. I also wonder how that is done and looks like. Also I have been a few times to a formula event and I saw the races live, you see a lot of camera people and crew trying to capture everything. Also like 3 helicopters in the sky following everything.
Thank you. That was a very interesting insight. Absolutely phenomenal what technology is used and developed to entertain the whole world. Please do one for the broadcast operation.
I would love to hear more about this. What are the data rates, resolution, fps, how many receivers are needed? What's the range and bandwidth of the transmitter and why? Is it dynamic? Why 10 GHz? Whats the power consumption and weight, what are currently the limiting factors of the image quality? How do cars affect each other. Are there interference problems and how are they being solved? Is every camera always recording? Why isn't the telemetry HUD in the TV transmission perfectly synced to the camera image? Is the rapidly varying speed difference between car and receiver a problem?
As a broadcast engineer, I love when the cool stuff we get to play with is highlighted. F1 is definitely on the cutting edge, and Bravo Zulu to their development teams!
That is fantastic stuff! But I would like to know a bit more about the transmission part of it. The antenna, the receivers, etc, and how it used to be some decades ago. It would be intresting to see the history and the development of it.
We really appreciate it all the work you do... Gyro is the most important thing you guys can work on from us fans it makes the car seem so much faster than the standard T cam Hopefully you can figure that one out cause that Hungary pole lap was something special
Awesome informative video. I love this kind of tech. I had no idea it was all sent to a F1 studio, and the race was directed from there. That makes it all that much more impressive. Having to colour correct 100 cameras live is a feat in its self, let alone from half way around the world.
If you guys could work with the helmet manufacturers to place the camera in the helmet but center position instead of off to the side (without blocking the driver's view), that would be too cool!
Finally a video about the camera systems, tho i was hoping that they would also show the workings on the older systems, like the one that used a helicopter for the signal. hence why the Monaco race always switched to a camera placed in the tunnel.
Please make the new camera configuration used on the McLaren a few races ago permanent, was awesome to get a sense of speed without sacrificing clarity!
Love the addition of the helmet cams in the last couple of years. My only suggestion would be to move it to the middle of the helmet. Like in the padding just above and between the eyebrows. Or maybe lower like around the mouth around where the clasp to close the helmet is. It's just feels weird to me sometimes seeing the view from inside the helmet but kind of off centered.
this was fascinating, i have been looking for a helmet camera system for paintball and combat engagement training after the fact, but the fact this can be real timed with such vivid clarity now days....just wow!
well in world of formula 1, some things you think is normal and easy, however in reality there is so much technology and complications that are fascinating really.
How much priority is given to making the recording unit damage-resistant? It could be an important component of crash investigation - like a black box.
I would be intrigued to hear about the various trials that appear fleetingly and are then never seen again. Tyre temperature overlay, ghost images, minisectors etc. Also an unrelated point, but have always wondered why Indycar orients on-car logos to make them the right way up and prominent when viewed from on board but F1 often does not. (I'm thinking about sidepods rather than halo.) Are halo ads cheaper because they are frequently obscured by graphics?
Some I've talked to don't like the driver view. I love it. I wish it was selectable in the F1 app while watching. At the same time, it confuses me that they don't crash more with how little they can actually see.
Se os pilotos tivessem oportunidade ...sorriam para a câmara, estão a ser filmados!! Incriveis os algoritmos e cheias de inteligência computacional as câmaras revelam a forma eficaz de passar a mensagem e captar o instante, para que saia tudo na perfeição do momento!!
d most interesting part what I feel is when a live race broadcast is on n we can get d sub titles of drivers talking with d team ... clever engineering over-all...
max's visor cam was on the left side of his helmet during the austrian sprint qually instead of the usual right side, would love some insight into what that was about. also the F1 Academy visor cam is rarely used but seems more centered and doesn't experience as much chromatic aberration, maybe because their tear offs are different?
Much prefer the gyro cam on the chassis behind the drivers shoulder than on the T-Cam, as the main camera the T should always stay stable. Although I’m sure there’s plenty research going into how you can convey the speed on all cameras without the Gyro effect
If only the camera and radios could be synced properly. Seems like radio is always quite a bit delayed, bad, or straight up missing. Proper sync for streams and audio would make the experience much better.
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 and because they need to do transcription on screen. Maybe with AI in the future we will get instant responses. In my university they were developing a machine learning algorithm to recognize bad words in text. Something Google for example already does, so with AI I think that can't be impossible.
Please move the pov camera to the center/brow-line of the helmet. Watching from the perspective behind a driver's ear is not as stimulating as one may think.
At 2:55 he mentions what moves to clear the view from rain but you fail you show it. I've always noticed this and wondered, it would've been nice to see it.
This is EXACTLY the video I've been praying for. Yes, the cars are amazing, but I'm super interested in the BTS logistics, infrastructure and hardware that's used.
Please please please do more stuff like this! Maybe some trackside camera stuff.
Emphatically seconded! I've been dying to know how the onboard cameras work, not to mention so much else about the TV broadcasts. It's all fascinating to me, and really goes to show how much incredible engineering and technological development is happening, and not just limited to the cars!
Making a series about this would be great. There is so much outside of camera that could be shown. Also maybe inside of cameras but that would be too deep technical.
It’s always interesting seeing the drivers point of view because it really shows how much vibration goes on in those cars
Especially considering their necks are stronger so it would vibrate even more for an average person
Yes, but as a driver you don't see those vibrations because the human eyes and brain work to stabilize the image, but looking at the footage on TV is just awful. The best camera is the gyro cam on the car.
Exactly. Just like riding a motorcycle, especially off road. Your body and brain mitigates the vast majority of the movement.
In my opinion (that may prove somewhat unpopular - but still: ) the helmet camera should be stabilized. Human eyes - together with inner ear vestibular system - removes much of the instability you see in the current HelmetCam view. So should the camera do. Current view is not natural and is dissimilar to what you actually visually experience.
@@toweri_li fair point
Charles Leclerc : " Where is my helmet?"
LOL
We are checking....
They might have Kimi's steering wheel also.
@@nekot9274 and his gloves!
his drink as well
Next to Kimi’s gloves and steering wheel.
Would love a similar video about the cameras in the curbs
especially the one at Eau Rouge
@@nspill327That’s raidillon actually
Those are cabled "normally" in a small cut in the concrete to the nearest optical node on the circuit.
Dino Leone is a natural in front of the camera. Thank you for this! It was truly educating and interesting
Agree.
The new gyro cameras are dope
but they're not really gyro. they're responding to the g force, kind of like when you go around a bend in the road and feel pushed to the outside of the car. has nothing to do with how banked the corner is
@@puffnpluky76 are you slow?
@@Scknows The effect is done entirely in post processing based on data from the g force sensors in the car. The camera itself is statically mounted and can not rotate at all
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This hype around these "gyro" cams is so manufactured. Helmet cams are 10000x better.
The new camera with the new FOV is way better than the normal T camera
Yep. Translates the sense of speed much better than the current Tcam. I hope they make the switch on all cars.
Definitely but gonna take a while before they are reliable
Still bad because we can't see the nose. It needs to be positioned higher so the Halo no longer obstructs the view.
The camera mounted on the shoulders car are dope too.
"In this edition of F1 TV’s Tech Talk, Craig Scarborough details how F1's iconic onboard camera shots work"
...except Craig only talks for like a minute. Dino does all the heavy lifting. Give the guy some credit @F1
The amount of tech that is in the f1 car is mind blowing 🤯
It’s literally a science fair basically every team has HUGE science project and fight for the best one every week it’s amazing
Not just that, but the power of it as well! The ability to communicate with Biggin Hill and the various F1 team HQs, from all of the tracks, is incredible.
Great to see Scarbs back on F1 TH-cam!
So much research and nobody's figured out that a slightly higher FOV have always made them more interesting to watch.
The crazy zoom and perfect stabilisation really undersell the speed these cars actually go.
The 'gyro' camera definitely better demonstrates the speed, the shot at 5:30 for example shows the speed and direction change well I think
@@User57655 watch some onboards from the 90s. I think the vibration and FOV was perfect to show the visceral nature of these cars.
Also wide FOV the static cams at places like Spa and Monaco, which have been got rid of because they don't show enough sponsorship.
@@User57655
Should come with a nausea warning, when i watched it i got dizzy. It never crossed my mind that gyro cams are gonna be used in f1, maybe for normal viewers it's the ooooh and ahhh factor, like how gen Z are editing the videos with all the zooms and tilting. I just want the car as a part of my tv and i can make out the suspension movement.
And what does that tell you? They dont care
There is reason, it can make alot of people dizzy. For that reason most cameras are 'zoomed in' but it's alredy a very wide shot
2:49 YESSS YEEESSSS I HAVE ALWAYS WANTED TO KNOW THAT, ITS BEEN MY BIGGEST QUESTION ABOUT F1. I thought it was a round rotating piece of glass that sits around the camera and spins around and is cleaned by a little piece of rubber that is out of frame. This makes way more sense and finally puts me at ease.
great video. I could listen to this guy make a whole series, he is straight to the point but also funny.
10g wireless data streaming is crazy, I'd love to eee the raw video. Even even at 720p the fact they can push so many cameras at once is wild
Me watching this in 360p 😢
Yet the 360 looks garbage
It's not 10 gbit, it's 10 ghz, the frequency
Frequency.
All the cameras aren't being transmitted simultaneously
Thanks F1 for keeping us entertained in the summer break
I would Love to see a behind the scences episode for f1tv! Just to see how you guys get everything pulled together!
Love this video! My favourite one from the break so far. Great to see some behind the scenes looks on how everything runs
to be this knowledgable about the entire system is truly impressive! respect
This video opening up with the superior version of the F1 theme was glorious
2 weeks till Zantvoort, stay strong boys!
And girls and everyone else!
We're trying 😭
I like to say 1 week on Friday. I know its just practice and stuff but makes it sound closer to get more excited. I hate it when they have these breaks..
Already?
2:44
I never really gave much thought about the cameras before. Now seeing this its very interesting. Can you guys also make a video about tracks and how the cameras are there. You have this camera (mostly in the turns and on the kerbs) that is flat and the drivers drive over them. I also wonder how that is done and looks like. Also I have been a few times to a formula event and I saw the races live, you see a lot of camera people and crew trying to capture everything. Also like 3 helicopters in the sky following everything.
Not a flat camera. Just embedded deep in the kerb.
Love it! This is the sort of thing F1 fans don't know from general viewing 😊
Thank you.
That was a very interesting insight.
Absolutely phenomenal what technology is used and developed to entertain the whole world.
Please do one for the broadcast operation.
I would love to hear more about this. What are the data rates, resolution, fps, how many receivers are needed? What's the range and bandwidth of the transmitter and why? Is it dynamic? Why 10 GHz? Whats the power consumption and weight, what are currently the limiting factors of the image quality? How do cars affect each other. Are there interference problems and how are they being solved? Is every camera always recording? Why isn't the telemetry HUD in the TV transmission perfectly synced to the camera image? Is the rapidly varying speed difference between car and receiver a problem?
According to the General Specification Manual there are a maximum of 55 receiver sites depending on the circuit.
Misc: 0:01 0:01 4:08 7:30
Coinc: 0:33 2:44 3:06 4:26 4:37 8:55
3:15 4:00 4:05 4:23 4:55 5:10 5:18 5:40 6:05 6:25 6:38 7:16 8:52 9:50
THIS is the type of stuff we love.
As a broadcast engineer, I love when the cool stuff we get to play with is highlighted. F1 is definitely on the cutting edge, and Bravo Zulu to their development teams!
BZ, yes.
Finally someone shows us how the cameras get their lens cleared. Been wondering how it’s actually done for years in all motorsports.
So true, yet almost as an after thought. Amazing technology.
The camera technology in F1 is insane!! Such a development and effort!
Such a HUGE leap from the massive technical challenges faced by John Frankenheimer and co. when they filmed "Grand Prix" waaay back in 1966!
Awesome to finally see the film cassette IRL
That is fantastic stuff! But I would like to know a bit more about the transmission part of it. The antenna, the receivers, etc, and how it used to be some decades ago. It would be intresting to see the history and the development of it.
The full version on F1TV includes this.
This was fascinating. Such incredible technology and engineering. Wow!
It would be really really nice to have 1000 more episodes of this ❤
Please do more of these
Give us a full runden of the teams communication system, the Riedel and Bolero-units! The fiber network must be pretty wild.
Nice to see the production value that goes into f1!
I was waiting for this video since 2005
The more you learn about the innovation and invention that goes into the sport, the more you love it, just can't help it.
Superb video!
Live on-board TV Cameras began in Australia, and used first at the Bathurst 1000 in 1979.
Fantastic production 🤝
Fun fact. Chanel 7 in Australia was the first to develop Racecam and it was first used in the 1979 Bathurst 1000.
THE OTHER PILLAR OF F1 TECH TALK HAS RETURNED!!!!!!!!!!!
things like this is what makes you respect the sport even more
very cool video. at what res does each camera record?
We really appreciate it all the work you do... Gyro is the most important thing you guys can work on from us fans it makes the car seem so much faster than the standard T cam
Hopefully you can figure that one out cause that Hungary pole lap was something special
Awesome informative video. I love this kind of tech. I had no idea it was all sent to a F1 studio, and the race was directed from there. That makes it all that much more impressive. Having to colour correct 100 cameras live is a feat in its self, let alone from half way around the world.
Giving the all of love surprisingly a stuffed grid now we stair the half and above f1 races this year that goes a cool memories asf❤️
That was fascinating, thank you.
If you guys could work with the helmet manufacturers to place the camera in the helmet but center position instead of off to the side (without blocking the driver's view), that would be too cool!
Gyroscope cams are the way to go! Man, the shots on them are so immersive and gives the greatest sense of speed ive ever seen.
Then I probably have another video on my account that you might like
always wanted to learn how these were integrated into f1 and how hard they were to develop
Finally a video about the camera systems, tho i was hoping that they would also show the workings on the older systems, like the one that used a helicopter for the signal. hence why the Monaco race always switched to a camera placed in the tunnel.
The full version on F1TV includes this.
Please make the new camera configuration used on the McLaren a few races ago permanent, was awesome to get a sense of speed without sacrificing clarity!
Love the addition of the helmet cams in the last couple of years.
My only suggestion would be to move it to the middle of the helmet.
Like in the padding just above and between the eyebrows.
Or maybe lower like around the mouth around where the clasp to close the helmet is.
It's just feels weird to me sometimes seeing the view from inside the helmet but kind of off centered.
Awesome stuff
this was fascinating, i have been looking for a helmet camera system for paintball and combat engagement training after the fact, but the fact this can be real timed with such vivid clarity now days....just wow!
Onboard cameras are the perfect way to see drivers race around
the only thing they need now for those microfone’s is f1 cars with decent sound
People like him deserve more screen time, they actually make what makes formula 1 work
The Content i really wanna see during the summer break😃
This was really interesting
I love the gyro cam. I would want it as the default onboard camera ngl
00:00-00:22 What a very *GREAT* opening! 👏👏👏👏👏
11/08/2024 22:53 Or 10:53 PM At My Local Time.
This was amazing to watch. F1 the engineers' sport. 😍
I just can't wait for F1 TV to go 4K
thank you for sharing.
More please!
2:23 Long overdue!! I wanted to see an up close view of the clear film since a looooong time!
More Craig Scarborough!
I don’t know if it’s just the 21 and pre 21 era cars but it would be great to hear those huge turbo spools and wooshes these F1 cars make 🙏👀
well in world of formula 1, some things you think is normal and easy, however in reality there is so much technology and complications that are fascinating really.
O yes SCARB IS BACK
How much priority is given to making the recording unit damage-resistant? It could be an important component of crash investigation - like a black box.
MotoGP had gyroscopic cameras on the back of the bikes for years, but they were really big and reduced performance of the bikes they were on.
Mind blowing 😮👌👍
I would be intrigued to hear about the various trials that appear fleetingly and are then never seen again. Tyre temperature overlay, ghost images, minisectors etc.
Also an unrelated point, but have always wondered why Indycar orients on-car logos to make them the right way up and prominent when viewed from on board but F1 often does not. (I'm thinking about sidepods rather than halo.)
Are halo ads cheaper because they are frequently obscured by graphics?
The new gyro câmara is sick, the angle sometimes is strange But it is the camera that best conveys the idea of the speed the car is going.
W video, thanks!
AMAZING GUYS ❤
Some I've talked to don't like the driver view. I love it. I wish it was selectable in the F1 app while watching. At the same time, it confuses me that they don't crash more with how little they can actually see.
Se os pilotos tivessem oportunidade ...sorriam para a câmara, estão a ser filmados!! Incriveis os algoritmos e cheias de inteligência computacional as câmaras revelam a forma eficaz de passar a mensagem e captar o instante, para que saia tudo na perfeição do momento!!
d most interesting part what I feel is when a live race broadcast is on n we can get d sub titles of drivers talking with d team ... clever engineering over-all...
Just what i wanted always
It would be cool if the helmet camera was centered, but this is cool too
max's visor cam was on the left side of his helmet during the austrian sprint qually instead of the usual right side, would love some insight into what that was about. also the F1 Academy visor cam is rarely used but seems more centered and doesn't experience as much chromatic aberration, maybe because their tear offs are different?
Much prefer the gyro cam on the chassis behind the drivers shoulder than on the T-Cam, as the main camera the T should always stay stable. Although I’m sure there’s plenty research going into how you can convey the speed on all cameras without the Gyro effect
Just go to setting and switch to camera you like
I miss a termo cam to see the temperature of tires. Was very common in the early 2000's
Fascinating. What's the total mass of all this kit?
If only the camera and radios could be synced properly. Seems like radio is always quite a bit delayed, bad, or straight up missing. Proper sync for streams and audio would make the experience much better.
The radios is delayed deliberately so that they can filter out any naughty words as such it’s always been this way
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 and because they need to do transcription on screen.
Maybe with AI in the future we will get instant responses.
In my university they were developing a machine learning algorithm to recognize bad words in text. Something Google for example already does, so with AI I think that can't be impossible.
Please move the pov camera to the center/brow-line of the helmet. Watching from the perspective behind a driver's ear is not as stimulating as one may think.
Now this was what we should get regularly! Ask us in F1 Fan Voice to see!
Please add wider view angle lenses on the cars. It makes you feel the speed.
Can you please do another video like the "How the TV Directors Captured the Action in Germany" for another big race please. 😭
🤔🤔🤔Wow, there are a lot of things happening in f1. Respect
At 2:55 he mentions what moves to clear the view from rain but you fail you show it. I've always noticed this and wondered, it would've been nice to see it.
Not only would watching overtakes be less clear, and reviewing incidents less clear,there would be no T-Cam in F1 games😭
I wish we could swap which camera we were seeing in the driver cams on F1TV
Only one camera can be transmitted live from each car, so that won't be possible for a while.