Very interesting. I am the creator of the original MIST that started all this and it's really surprising what it has evolved into. And it's also fun to see a bunch if bits and pieces I did 10 years ago to still be a part of this. I should get myself a MISTer one day to display it beside my various MIST incarnations.
Really pleased you spotted this. I designed this all-in-one Multisystem motherboard, the MiSTer is in such a good place at the moment. Feel free to reach out to Neil if you want to know more about the project. And thank you for creating MIST !
Great creation you made, I still use my MiST as the main unit for retro computing, still a great unit with active core development. Thanks for making it possible!
@@JG-nx3jg It's better than Indie Go-Go but you still have the potential to loose your money or have to wait ages for the product you backed to ship if it ever does.
@@error4159 yeah you need to do your homework before chucking money at these things, but same with any punt. The concept is good and has resulted in many products coming to market that would otherwise have never found investment through traditional routes
The MiSTER projects so far have basically been a cobbled together lot of sample boards to make everything work. This is a finished project. Really well done and not for a terrible price.
This is exactly what I’ve been waiting for to finally get into the world of the MiSTer. It’s obvious that a huge amount of planning has gone into this and glad to hear that the testing is going well. I think you and the guys at Heber should be very proud of this indeed. I’ll be ordering my DE-10 Nano very shortly and hoping to jump on the first batch of MultiSystems for a review!
my thoughts exactly, I have been holding off on buying a Mister for about a year now, for various reasons and with this thing it looks like they are all adressed.
Same here, Ive been circling around the mister project for a while, last time I got the impression it was hard to buy. It's great RMC and Co have a complete solution.
"If there's demand, there'll be supply. This isn't going to be one of those things people want but just can't get their hands on" That shade cast over Analog probably dropped the temperature there by a few degrees.
Man I hope so. Every time I see one of their sales pages, I feel like it says, basically, “a console so expensive and beautiful, we only made one - and you can’t have it.” Then what’s the point, Melvin?
@@nickwallette6201 that's the thing. I WANT to give them my money. I've had the cost of their Pocket earmarked since it was announced. I missed all four seconds of the preorder window what must be more than a year ago by now, and I'm frankly glad I did, because still nobody has one in their hands. There's no evidence it even exists, yet, and the short videos they're showing on Twitter are displaying some common emulation bugs you wouldn't expect of an FPGA device. Or even of a modern, competent software emulator. I'm actually concerned they don't really have a product this time.
@@NoobixCube Version 5.0 of the super nt fixes graphics bugs regarding Final fantasy 6 and bahamut lagoon. I understand the appeal of the mister, but i have cartridges that i don't want to leave untouched (Glad the restock hasn't been dried up since a couple of weeks after a year long drought)
I do appreciate that it's not some super limited thing. I hate when interesting things show up and you can never get them again if you don't have the money that day.
@@RMCRetro Here's to beating any scalpers ^.^ wonderfull stuff too. I had my fair share with FPGAs and this was always going to be a dream use. This is something I seriously consider buying for the Holidays
Thanks for watching! Want to find out more? Well first of all please note that the MiSTer Multisystem developed and supported by us, please don't flood other MiSTer forums or Discord servers with questions, we can answer them all here: If you have a question about the sytem then please leave a comment on this video and I'll check them all for the future Q&A video. ● Episode Links Chat in the RMC Discord with the Mister Multisystem chat room: discord.gg/jGvH3VDs8h When the MMS goes on sale it will be at: rmcretro.store If you'd like to know more about MiSTer in general you can find out here: The MiSTer project wiki: github.com/MiSTer-devel/Main_MiSTer/wiki MiSTer official forum: misterfpga.org/ Chat in the MiSTer Official Discord server: discord.gg/gyRe9WC6Y2 And if you'd like to watch some more videos on the MiSTer: Building the MiSTer Fusion: th-cam.com/video/TCQuUwHH45w/w-d-xo.html Is FPGA the future of retro gaming?: th-cam.com/video/e5yPbzD-W-I/w-d-xo.html Neil - RMC
Looks like a lot of potential here! Hope the remaining testing and launch goes smoothly for everyone involved in this. Interested in seeing some different case designs that folks come up with. Reference design looks better than I originally thought, but still always love seeing what the creator community comes up with.
Really nice! I'd love to see a small screen built into the case as a sort of dynamic badge that would show which core is running with a hardware logo. Another idea, maybe two sections built for led rgb lights that would show a color scheme to match the core. Some sort of element to make the case feel like it itself is emulating the appearance of the chosen core running. Awesome case, really nice design!!
Wow, this is a total game changer for the MiSTer project! Until now it’s really been more of a DIY solution for retro gaming, this is really exciting! Great work and thank you so much for bringing this to us. I will 100% be buying this when it’s available!
I do wish for this to be a huge success, in whatever form, but especially that we might see the deluxe, plug and play, pre-assembled version become a commercially viable and economical option for those who don't want to deal with, or have the time for, gerber files, BOMs, Dev boards, Pi Zeros, Mini-Pro's and 3D printers that so many projects seem to require. Exciting stuff. :-)
Yeah. I tried a raspberry pi, it was an absolute nightmare to set up because it was so slow. I'd set it to extract a small rar file for whatever, and I'd have to leave it and come back on half an hour before it was finally done. Imagine every click taking that long. The raspberry pi is far too weak And once I had everything set up, I found out that retro pie is pretty terrible. At the moment anyway. It's got so much input lag that the game are unplayable So it was a fun experiment but I'm never using any raspberry pi based system again. I do not like Linux and how terribly annoying it is to do any basic thing in it Eventually I got a GPD XD+ android handheld (it's like a DS because it folds closed, but with one screen, and that screen is a touchscreen, and it has all the buttons a modern controller has like 4 shoulder buttons, 2 clickable analogue sticks etc). The GPD thing runs android. And I've tried everything else, and android is the best platform for emulation easily, if you're just after playing the games and you're not a TAS speedrunner or something. Unlike the PC emulators, android emulators are always being updated still. And the emulators generally have far more options than PC or retro pi ones do Oh and you can plug it into a TV via HDMI and sit back and use Bluetooth controllers with it. I've played multiplayer mario kart 64 on my TV using this thing. It makes it a really good compliment to my Switch, because it's both a handheld and a plug in console of a sort Retro pie might be fine for some people but I couldn't stand how much input lag it had and how difficult it was to do something basic, like say assign save state and load state as actions to certain buttons on a controller. You just couldn't do it. Every other emulator on every other platform you can do it, but not retro pie. Stuff like that, I can't be bothered with it. It's bad, right now
I agree 100%! I'd DEFINITELY be interested in purchasing one of these for myself here in the United States, as long as I can just take it out of the box, attach it to my HD flat screen TV, plug it into the wall outlet and play away.
Thats exactly what i was thinking. I don't even know what half that shit you mentioned is. I just want an awesome retro console!! I want to play Arcade games, sega CD, and a few others. This is my dream come true.
I've really liked the idea of MiSTer. A proper consoled appliance with most of the add-ons build right in sounds like something that would make me take the jump. Consider me 𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺 interested...
Yea - especially since I saw reports that its now recommended to use the newer 2.9 version of the RAM because of issues reported with some cores. - I dont know much about this. - search Briar Rabbit on youtube. - I wonder which version this will come with
@@brentgreeff1115 the 2.9 upgrade is mostly to make the RAM board easier to produce. There’s no need to upgrade if your current RAM is performing well. Edit: Just to clarify: I meant that there's no need to upgrade an older RAM board to a new one if your current one is working fine (such as running CPS2 cores with no problems). Nothing to do with the Multisystem which offers a lot more than just RAM and looks awesome.
@@godslayer1415 Bad take. I guess you missed the board they are selling as part of this? It is a nice alternative for anyone that doesn't want to build the typical brick MiSTer setup.
@@peterkozlowski4377 No. However there's very easy instructions to follow to get it up and running. You will be able to buy all of the hardware together, and then you'd put MiSTer Fusion onto an SD card, add the "update_all" script, put it into the Multisystem and run the update_all and you'd have it set up.
Well this kicks ass. I already built my mister stack and was planning on designing a case basically like this, but your team has 1up on my own plans. Now take my damned money please
This made my week! I will definitely buy one. I have wanted a mister for quite some time, but the amount of options and difficulty buying all the bits just put me off getting one built. Looking forward to the release!
I’ve had my DE10 Nano for almost two years now just sitting in a box waiting for this very moment. I want this board Neil!! Thank you for this amazing work and beautiful design!
I like what I have seen and your delivery of the details. You covered the pros and the cons. All in all I felt you were being 100% honest about the product which is not a feeling I get from people that are essentially advertising a product these days. Well done!
This is brilliant! I am a MIST FPGA owner since many years. I am thinking of switching to MISTer since a long time. But MIST comes. in a single pre-configured case. It is simple. All the boards and options kept me from getting to MISTer. You might have just done what I was missing! A turnkey solution for MISTer! Great!
Just when I've been watching all these Mister videos to get me to jump from my lovely little RetroPie setup, this video shows up! This setup is perfectly ❤️
This is just what the MiSter project needs. Looks amazing. I used to have a MiSter setup in an old sega Saturn case. Eventually sold it. Actually feels like you're playing the games on their original consoles. I still love playing my OG Megadrive and 2 Slot NeoGeo MVS but this would be their replacement if they died.
Wow. As a 3D designer and contributor to the Mister project, I've had a go myself at building similar systems. This is such an incredible piece of design and engineering and I'll scrap all mine and buy this one. Excellent job guys.
Very nice! I really like the design of the board. You thought really hard about what people would want with a console board for the MiSTer and it shows!
This looks absolutely fantastic. I just bought a DE-10 Nano and this looks just perfect. I really want to order one when they come available. Excellent work!
Very nice. I look forward to seeing the final product. I have the current "Stacked" setup on my MiSTer, which works fine for me.. but when we add a few more MiSTers to the house I might be looking at some of these. I like it! Well done Neil and company
there is one thing i would change or atleast add a cover for the SCART like for those who dont plan to use the scart connector or in a non scart country
For those that don't want to use the SCART there is an alternative case you can 3D print that does not have the hole at all. It actually looks a little nicer too imo.
I’ve been a long time admirer of the MiSTer & FPGA but have yet to pull the trigger on one but having just watched your video & holding out for so long You can add my name to the waiting list.
You’ve really covered all the bases. On board SNAC support, 128MB, RGB SCART. Really amazing work, I have a fully loaded MiSTer but by gods if I don’t want/need this. Excellent!
I think MiSTer (fpga) project is the thing we needed for preserving retro software and games... I really love that project and I see there was really lots of thought put into the development, from snapable ram and snac ports, really nice!
I'm pretty heavily into this world, and every time I had a thought, it seemed to get addressed later in the video. Seems like a lot of thought went into this!
A really cool board you made here ! Thanks for making the Mister project advance ! I'm really not a fan of the case though, but I know it's very hard to come with a design that is liked by most and still answers technical requirements (SD slots, controller swapping...). I hope you'll manage to make a matte plastic injection molded case instead of 3D printed ones. It'll look much more professional, but it's quite the investment...
Being free from the usual emulator latency is a huge Mister plus for everyone who grew up with the real thing and got their brains programmed on fast machines.
That is one of the major benefits... but its also on par with real hardware, where software emulation is not. Jotego's arcade cores for example like capcom CPS are 44% more accurate than MAME. With that said, software emulation is great and it has the potential to one day be on par like FPGA in 10 or 20 years, maybe. Assuming the liberals don't destroy the planet by then.
@@NirnBootMod The accuracy part is a little wonky though. Some of the cores (sadly not all) are very accurate but many of them often still differ somewhat and do not respond 100% accurate in every situation. Some also need some fixes that may not be present in the original system to play nice with modern hw. Overall it is a very exciting angle for retro systems, also because the hardware isn't set in stone and can receive upgrades but I feel that the "on par with real hardware" argument is a little overemphasized sometimes. VS emulation think its the other way round actually. Emulation should not be superior but it might take quite some time to get many cores on par with cycle accurate emulation. > Assuming the liberals don't destroy the planet by then. Ah yeah I heard they keep shoehorning their agenda into debates that have nothing to do with it.
@@blitzwing1 And even latency is not a total win for FPGA. On 16-bit systems like SNES a good "software" emulator can beat FPGA emulation and original hardware for latency, with the right setup and if that is even wanted. Or it can match them of course. A lot of SNES games have 2 or 3 frames of latency built in to the way they work, total accuracy will simply recreate that but an emulator with runahead can get around it. Of course it's not true to the original experience but it's a nice option to have. Then there is lagless vsync that can get very close to the latency of older systems that don't even buffer their frames.
I just love seeing TFX and Monkey Island in the background, reminds me of my Dads office shelves back in the 90's, TFX was my favourite game for so long, and Police Quest!
Was impressed by them when i saw them in the flesh many weeks ago. Preferred the black or dark grey (not the brown famicon colours). Looking forwards to getting my hands on a final production one!
Holy smokes! You've a guaranteed purchase here! I'm curious about MIDI and other concerns around the 486 core. I'm also curious about that optical drive.
This is amazing! Well done. I've been hoping for something like this for a while as I'm not particularly thrilled of the Mister stacker. Might be my entry into FPGA.
Fantastic work man! Been following MiSTER for a few years so I was happy to see your series last year - just haven’t gotten to building a stack. THIS is what i want - definitely going to jump on this as soon as you release!
First I was like, "oh, he made a case for the MiSTer" - but that is actually a really, really nice and professional breakout board. Still need that address for the swabs, though.
Same here! and didn't even liked it at first! Now I am counting the days until I can have one of these :) and the case has strong 90s vibes (it reminds me of the gx4000 even if they're not similar... maybe the SCART port does it? lol)
I feel this is going to be big. The exterior is beautiful, the inside is powerful. Great port of entry for this world. I wish this operation all the best!
Hi RMC, I have been subbed to your channel for a couple of years now and I have enjoyed many of your computer refurbs. I have just bought a 3D printed case with arcade style top notch parts, for a ultimate joystick, that I have always wanted for the 2600. The seller suggested the Mister project to me, and I in turn mentioned your channel to him. Dave suggested the makers for the main DE-10 that you mentioned, but I would rather buy the whole system from you, with the snap on mod for the 9 pin joystick port. I am disabled, so I dont have a lot of spare cash, the joystick at £30 was a huge deal for me, but after reviewing your videos on the Mister project, I feel its at a stage that is right for me. I would be grateful for details on how to buy the setup mentioned and how much it would cost. Initially I was put off, by how technical it was, but I dont rush into these things.
@@godslayer1415 No, they've designed an expansion board and a case. The expansion board has ram onboard, they've made it so you can remove the onboard ram and upgrade it if needed. This is a good solution as integrating the ram into the expansion board allows them to reduce the cost over buying both separately, and making sure it can be removed means you don't need to ditch the expansion board if the ram fails or needs to be upgraded. If you think they've only built a case then you should actually watch the video.
While it's true upgradeable RAM is a MiSTer thing, and everything from the SNAC connectors to the various video outputs can already be done with add on boards this is the first really easy plug and play solution with an all in one board that can do almost everything. He hasn't just "made a case" at all. Basically, get your DE10-Nano, plug it in and assemble the case, stick in your SD card and you're done. If it works as well as advertised, owning a MiSTer got a lot easier.
That should really help make the Mister easier for the average person to get started with, and much more convenient than the stack of boards. I will go so far as to say that looks amazing - Where do I sign up for one!
All you need to start off with the Mister is the DE10 Nano board, a ram module and an sd card, you don't need any extra boards if you just want to plug it into a tv with hdmi and play games.
That looks fantastic and will certainly help people get into the MiSTer as it can be a bit of a steep learning curve. I am particularly interested in the JAMMA aspect to it as I have one hooked up to one of my JAMMA cabs and although it works great its not pretty. Great work as usual and I hope that the electronics supply gods are on your side when it comes to delivering it.
Is the final case going to be injection molded? This is looking so cool I’d love to have a real smooth high quality case like this to go with the board
I can already see one of these transparent like the old Xbox consoles were available as, that would be cool. Moulds for IM are really expensive though.
Wow you really have covered almost all bases! no doubt there was probably a few you couldnt put in but it looks like you have put a lot of time effort and research. well done!
Please find a way to get one of these units to ETA Primes TH-cam Channel! I am sure he would be thrilled to review one and get the word out! This is exactly what I have been waiting for before buying my first FPGA. Thank You! BTW, how would someone invest in the producer of such a great product?
@@NirnBootMod CRT usually have SCART inputs, never saw one with a component input, it started to appear with the first LCD/plasma televisions. I even have one of the last made CRT (purchased in 2006) and still only SCART input.
While I am not hardcore enough to go for something as authentic as this for retro game emulation, it is always a joy to see people doing their part for media preservation and I wish you all the best of luck on this project. :) I'd be lying if I didn't say I at least want to try it out and fiddle with it ha ha.
Looks great I'll be very interested in this. I'm quite new when it comes to Mister is there a ti994a core (or whatever they're called) or an atari 800 one? My own childhood computers despite being UK based. Thanks in advance!
You can find all the "official" cores at github.com/MiSTer-devel Both TI-99/4A and Atari 800 cores exist, but I can't comment on their completeness/quality. Just type in the system name where it reads "Find a repository"
You had me at the shell... once you opened it up, showed the PCB, the included add-on board hardware, included RAM module... I'm here for it. I know it's outside the scope, but I'd love to see an injection-mould version of that shell. This is basically 'final form' territory for the MiSTer.
I have talked to Neil about this, we can look at a design that could be injection moulded, but the cost for tooling is significant, so that may be where some sort of funding is needed.
@@RichRap3D I'd say stick with as is for now, get the product out there, let word of mouth build and (hopefully) the orders will come in sufficient quantity to give you the confidence to see about an Injection moulded case release
The design of that case is really super cool, but I can’t stand 3D print lines, that’s a shame for such a cool demo project. Just 3 hours of elbow grease filling priming and than spraying it, would really make it a 90s dream console! The shape is so awesome!
To be fair it's not exactly a mass-market item (yet). Getting ABS molds made up is still very expensive, and then there's the issue of needing to order a minimum number of units, depending on the plastics molding company.
@@TheKnobCalledTone. I understand that. But you don’t need injecting molding. You can do resin casts, certainly for a couple of hundred. But my point is, that when you create such great products and make a promotion video on it. You should also go that extra step and. And everything look as good as the PCB. Prepping a 3D print to be screen perfect, It will cost you no more than a few hours. And you can show of something really nice. And after that you can actually, take another day to really finesse it, then you have great masters that you can mould and do resin casts with. Or pay a bit more an have your great prototype powder printed. This will run you around euros (not too bad of an investment). And if you finish that off (not much to do) you have awesome masters, for mounding and resin casting. I absolutely agree that these low volumes, wouldn’t indeed, justify naming injection moulded tooling. Even doing a 1000, would mean making 10, relatively expensive silicone moulds but still cheaper than paying the 50K for tooling and a minimum production run. It’s that final loving touch for a reveal prototype. And when it’s rough, but you plan to make it nice, then it will serve to mention that. Not that this would be a deal breaker for me :) I’d role your my sleeves and fill and sand it - but I rather the manufacture did ;)
You showing that picture of the Acorn Archimedes OS triggered a long lost memory in me, for years I've been trying to track down an educational game I played back in primary school and now I've found it thanks to you, it was called Time Dectectives - The Victorians, just wish I could play it again
Outstanding! Now I understand the reason for your recent question about who planned on buying a MiSter. I will definitely be buying one of these when they are released. As others have said, it is good to know that availability will not be a problem. I am tired of seeing new products, whether they be systems or upgrades, selling out within minutes of them going in sale. Also system mods where the sellers don’t want to mass produce them, so buying them is a lottery. You guys are doing it right.
A Retro-Rabbit and it's money is quickly separated. I hope the X68000 development continues for the MiSTer. I will be purchasing this as soon as its available!
2nd question is one of custom cases - any chance of professionally printed options there for those without a printer at home? Different colours? Materials? Unique designs???
We'll be releasing the files for anyone to use freely. Further down the line if this sells well and we have a userbase who really want it I'd be happy to run a Kickstarter to raise the funds for injection moulded shells.
@@YonezH It's mostly for testing thermal performance. Unfortunately these temperature sensitive additives and the UV sensitive filaments also wear out over a period of time and exposure to heat / UV - so it's not intended for long-term use. It is quite fun and you can always print a new one when it wears out.
Holy shit. I have no words. I've had a lot of interest in FPGA development and the mister project. I absolutely love projects which bring retro into the modern era like this.
The Multi system is now Open Source!
You can read more here: misterfpga.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=6655&sid=53c9cae92881ccfeaecd4ad095c1597a
Where can I buy one of those black consoles you show in the video.
Very interesting. I am the creator of the original MIST that started all this and it's really surprising what it has evolved into. And it's also fun to see a bunch if bits and pieces I did 10 years ago to still be a part of this.
I should get myself a MISTer one day to display it beside my various MIST incarnations.
Really pleased you spotted this. I designed this all-in-one Multisystem motherboard, the MiSTer is in such a good place at the moment. Feel free to reach out to Neil if you want to know more about the project. And thank you for creating MIST !
MiSTer is blowing up right now. Thank you for your work on MiST. An you should definitely get an MiSTer. Kinda eyebrow raising that you didn't yet ;-)
Great creation you made, I still use my MiST as the main unit for retro computing, still a great unit with active core development.
Thanks for making it possible!
You're a Legend in the history of retro video games 👍 You're keeping this hobby ALIVE ❤️ We owe our debts to you, Mr. Harbaum 🙏
Because of you, the retro gaming community can continue to thrive and preserve it's rich gaming heritage!
Rare to see something like this that isn't being hawked via a kickstarter, reassuringly professional!
That's so true and it's a reason I'll support them by buying one.
Nothing wrong with kickstarter
@@JG-nx3jg It's better than Indie Go-Go but you still have the potential to loose your money or have to wait ages for the product you backed to ship if it ever does.
@@error4159 yeah you need to do your homework before chucking money at these things, but same with any punt. The concept is good and has resulted in many products coming to market that would otherwise have never found investment through traditional routes
@@error4159 That’s kind of the point. It’s venture capitalism, not a store.
This feels like the 3rd or 4th generation. You've addressed so many things it's like you've been receiving user feedback for years!
Fantastic design!
The MiSTER projects so far have basically been a cobbled together lot of sample boards to make everything work. This is a finished project. Really well done and not for a terrible price.
Love the inclusion of an actual SCART connector, with a functional pin 8 nonetheless!
aka shart
This is sort of what does it for me.. Scart + HDMI lets it just seamlessly fit all my needs. Now I just need a bigger Extron..
This is exactly what I’ve been waiting for to finally get into the world of the MiSTer. It’s obvious that a huge amount of planning has gone into this and glad to hear that the testing is going well. I think you and the guys at Heber should be very proud of this indeed. I’ll be ordering my DE-10 Nano very shortly and hoping to jump on the first batch of MultiSystems for a review!
my thoughts exactly, I have been holding off on buying a Mister for about a year now, for various reasons and with this thing it looks like they are all adressed.
Same here: I've been MiSTer-curious for quite some time now, and I think this has finally pushed me over the edge
Same here, Ive been circling around the mister project for a while, last time I got the impression it was hard to buy. It's great RMC and Co have a complete solution.
Take my money! 😆
Will this be a plug and play device, or will it require a lot of setup?
"If there's demand, there'll be supply. This isn't going to be one of those things people want but just can't get their hands on"
That shade cast over Analog probably dropped the temperature there by a few degrees.
Lol I knew I wasn't the only one thinking this.
Man I hope so. Every time I see one of their sales pages, I feel like it says, basically, “a console so expensive and beautiful, we only made one - and you can’t have it.”
Then what’s the point, Melvin?
@@nickwallette6201 that's the thing. I WANT to give them my money. I've had the cost of their Pocket earmarked since it was announced. I missed all four seconds of the preorder window what must be more than a year ago by now, and I'm frankly glad I did, because still nobody has one in their hands. There's no evidence it even exists, yet, and the short videos they're showing on Twitter are displaying some common emulation bugs you wouldn't expect of an FPGA device. Or even of a modern, competent software emulator. I'm actually concerned they don't really have a product this time.
@@NoobixCube Version 5.0 of the super nt fixes graphics bugs regarding Final fantasy 6 and bahamut lagoon.
I understand the appeal of the mister, but i have cartridges that i don't want to leave untouched (Glad the restock hasn't been dried up since a couple of weeks after a year long drought)
I do appreciate that it's not some super limited thing. I hate when interesting things show up and you can never get them again if you don't have the money that day.
Me too, super annoying and it just pushes the price up on the auction sites for what are available
Me too I've missed so much stuff for the Amiga because if you dont drop the cash the day it's announced it never appears again.
@@RMCRetro Here's to beating any scalpers ^.^ wonderfull stuff too. I had my fair share with FPGAs and this was always going to be a dream use. This is something I seriously consider buying for the Holidays
Thanks for watching! Want to find out more? Well first of all please note that the MiSTer Multisystem developed and supported by us, please don't flood other MiSTer forums or Discord servers with questions, we can answer them all here:
If you have a question about the sytem then please leave a comment on this video and I'll check them all for the future Q&A video.
● Episode Links
Chat in the RMC Discord with the Mister Multisystem chat room: discord.gg/jGvH3VDs8h
When the MMS goes on sale it will be at: rmcretro.store
If you'd like to know more about MiSTer in general you can find out here:
The MiSTer project wiki: github.com/MiSTer-devel/Main_MiSTer/wiki
MiSTer official forum: misterfpga.org/
Chat in the MiSTer Official Discord server: discord.gg/gyRe9WC6Y2
And if you'd like to watch some more videos on the MiSTer:
Building the MiSTer Fusion: th-cam.com/video/TCQuUwHH45w/w-d-xo.html
Is FPGA the future of retro gaming?: th-cam.com/video/e5yPbzD-W-I/w-d-xo.html
Neil - RMC
When will you open pre- orders?
can you ship to australia?
Good luck with this project it is great to see something made here in the uk and that will reach the market and perform as expected :)
Will there be a BlissTer version ? If you build one for the Ultimate MiSTer PRO BlisSter Edition, i'll go for it.
This project is incredibly thoughtful. I want to see it succeed.
This almost makes me glad that I haven't build a MiSTer system yet.
Looks like a lot of potential here! Hope the remaining testing and launch goes smoothly for everyone involved in this.
Interested in seeing some different case designs that folks come up with. Reference design looks better than I originally thought, but still always love seeing what the creator community comes up with.
Nice to hear these won’t run out of stock before being scalped on Ebay!!!!!!! Do it for the culture baby!!!!!!
Really nice! I'd love to see a small screen built into the case as a sort of dynamic badge that would show which core is running with a hardware logo. Another idea, maybe two sections built for led rgb lights that would show a color scheme to match the core. Some sort of element to make the case feel like it itself is emulating the appearance of the chosen core running. Awesome case, really nice design!!
Wow, this is a total game changer for the MiSTer project! Until now it’s really been more of a DIY solution for retro gaming, this is really exciting! Great work and thank you so much for bringing this to us. I will 100% be buying this when it’s available!
I do wish for this to be a huge success, in whatever form, but especially that we might see the deluxe, plug and play, pre-assembled version become a commercially viable and economical option for those who don't want to deal with, or have the time for, gerber files, BOMs, Dev boards, Pi Zeros, Mini-Pro's and 3D printers that so many projects seem to require. Exciting stuff. :-)
Yeah. I tried a raspberry pi, it was an absolute nightmare to set up because it was so slow. I'd set it to extract a small rar file for whatever, and I'd have to leave it and come back on half an hour before it was finally done. Imagine every click taking that long. The raspberry pi is far too weak
And once I had everything set up, I found out that retro pie is pretty terrible. At the moment anyway. It's got so much input lag that the game are unplayable
So it was a fun experiment but I'm never using any raspberry pi based system again. I do not like Linux and how terribly annoying it is to do any basic thing in it
Eventually I got a GPD XD+ android handheld (it's like a DS because it folds closed, but with one screen, and that screen is a touchscreen, and it has all the buttons a modern controller has like 4 shoulder buttons, 2 clickable analogue sticks etc). The GPD thing runs android. And I've tried everything else, and android is the best platform for emulation easily, if you're just after playing the games and you're not a TAS speedrunner or something. Unlike the PC emulators, android emulators are always being updated still. And the emulators generally have far more options than PC or retro pi ones do
Oh and you can plug it into a TV via HDMI and sit back and use Bluetooth controllers with it. I've played multiplayer mario kart 64 on my TV using this thing. It makes it a really good compliment to my Switch, because it's both a handheld and a plug in console of a sort
Retro pie might be fine for some people but I couldn't stand how much input lag it had and how difficult it was to do something basic, like say assign save state and load state as actions to certain buttons on a controller. You just couldn't do it. Every other emulator on every other platform you can do it, but not retro pie. Stuff like that, I can't be bothered with it. It's bad, right now
I agree 100%! I'd DEFINITELY be interested in purchasing one of these for myself here in the United States, as long as I can just take it out of the box, attach it to my HD flat screen TV, plug it into the wall outlet and play away.
Thats exactly what i was thinking. I don't even know what half that shit you mentioned is. I just want an awesome retro console!! I want to play Arcade games, sega CD, and a few others. This is my dream come true.
I've really liked the idea of MiSTer.
A proper consoled appliance with most of the add-ons build right in sounds like something that would make me take the jump.
Consider me 𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺 interested...
This really looks like an incredibly well-thought-out and considerate design
Man, you guys are a light at the end of the tunnel in the retror gaming community; I will be happy to buy this system.
I really like that the ram is upgradable. That's some forward thinking.
Yea - especially since I saw reports that its now recommended to use the newer 2.9 version of the RAM because of issues reported with some cores. - I dont know much about this. - search Briar Rabbit on youtube. - I wonder which version this will come with
@@brentgreeff1115 the 2.9 upgrade is mostly to make the RAM board easier to produce. There’s no need to upgrade if your current RAM is performing well.
Edit:
Just to clarify: I meant that there's no need to upgrade an older RAM board to a new one if your current one is working fine (such as running CPS2 cores with no problems). Nothing to do with the Multisystem which offers a lot more than just RAM and looks awesome.
@@godslayer1415 He did more than make a case little Timmy
@@godslayer1415 Bad take. I guess you missed the board they are selling as part of this? It is a nice alternative for anyone that doesn't want to build the typical brick MiSTer setup.
My alpha test unit has been great so far. I can't find any problems and I've been trying to find at least one so Neil doesn't think I'm being lazy!
Really glad it's going so well. That's not a problem if you can't find any issues, very happy to get feedback, thanks for testing.
If a velociraptor can use it without breaking it, anyone can!
Does it come with all the systems and everything setup right out the box? is it essentially plug and play?
@@peterkozlowski4377 No. However there's very easy instructions to follow to get it up and running. You will be able to buy all of the hardware together, and then you'd put MiSTer Fusion onto an SD card, add the "update_all" script, put it into the Multisystem and run the update_all and you'd have it set up.
Hopefully we get a nice setup/install video for those new to mister to walk them through the process on this
Everyone is gangsta until RMC invents his own retro system
nah, thats only soulja boy
@@Caddy666 I'm sorry but it's not even funny anymore, just pathetic..
@@JohnSmith-xq1pz "Soulja Boy is the King of Consoles, show some respect." - A liberal
I lolled
@@Caddy666 Soulja boy stole emulators, put roms on a existing Chinese made product. RMC R&D their own variant of mister hardware
Well this kicks ass. I already built my mister stack and was planning on designing a case basically like this, but your team has 1up on my own plans.
Now take my damned money please
Been looking forward to this video Neil. You definitely got a customer, very happy i waited getting a MiSTer.
This made my week! I will definitely buy one. I have wanted a mister for quite some time, but the amount of options and difficulty buying all the bits just put me off getting one built. Looking forward to the release!
I'm from Brazil, I really want one of these!! I can't wait to buy it!!
Heckin yes cant wait to see it in person. As soon as their available for the US im grabbin one.
I'm really happy The Cave ended up in this building. Really cool stuff!
I’ve had my DE10 Nano for almost two years now just sitting in a box waiting for this very moment. I want this board Neil!! Thank you for this amazing work and beautiful design!
i'm a big fan of the MiSTer and love mine. This looks incredible - excellent work!
I like what I have seen and your delivery of the details. You covered the pros and the cons. All in all I felt you were being 100% honest about the product which is not a feeling I get from people that are essentially advertising a product these days. Well done!
Thanks. It's designed for everyone, but also a very open and knowledgeable community so total transparency is the only way to go.
Congratulations Neil. I can't wait to get one.
This is brilliant! I am a MIST FPGA owner since many years. I am thinking of switching to MISTer since a long time. But MIST comes. in a single pre-configured case. It is simple.
All the boards and options kept me from getting to MISTer.
You might have just done what I was missing! A turnkey solution for MISTer! Great!
This looks so good Mark! Well done to the team behind this. In many ways, this is what the Polymega should have been.
^ Truth. It’s what I thought it was until it wasn’t.
Can't await to order. Brilliant and Made in Britain. I love this project. Thank you so much bringing it to life 😍😍😍🤗🤗🤗
Just when I've been watching all these Mister videos to get me to jump from my lovely little RetroPie setup, this video shows up! This setup is perfectly ❤️
This is just what the MiSter project needs. Looks amazing. I used to have a MiSter setup in an old sega Saturn case. Eventually sold it. Actually feels like you're playing the games on their original consoles. I still love playing my OG Megadrive and 2 Slot NeoGeo MVS but this would be their replacement if they died.
Although I already have a complete MiSter system (actually two of them), I must say I am very interested in this... I know I will buy one for sure!
Wow. As a 3D designer and contributor to the Mister project, I've had a go myself at building similar systems. This is such an incredible piece of design and engineering and I'll scrap all mine and buy this one. Excellent job guys.
I wish I had waited now to pull the trigger on a full mister setup. This is absolutely fantastic!
Very nice! I really like the design of the board. You thought really hard about what people would want with a console board for the MiSTer and it shows!
This looks absolutely fantastic. I just bought a DE-10 Nano and this looks just perfect. I really want to order one when they come available. Excellent work!
Very nice. I look forward to seeing the final product. I have the current "Stacked" setup on my MiSTer, which works fine for me.. but when we add a few more MiSTers to the house I might be looking at some of these. I like it! Well done Neil and company
there is one thing i would change or atleast add a cover for the SCART like for those who dont plan to use the scart connector or in a non scart country
@@CalmoOmlac sure, but it would be good to cover plate it out of sight (and dust) in a setup where it will never be used.
For those that don't want to use the SCART there is an alternative case you can 3D print that does not have the hole at all. It actually looks a little nicer too imo.
@@Daz555Daz what if the person doesnt have a 3d printer like i cant afford one of those things nor do i know how to use one
I’ve been a long time admirer of the MiSTer & FPGA but have yet to pull the trigger on one but having just watched your video & holding out for so long
You can add my name to the waiting list.
You’ve really covered all the bases. On board SNAC support, 128MB, RGB SCART. Really amazing work, I have a fully loaded MiSTer but by gods if I don’t want/need this. Excellent!
I think MiSTer (fpga) project is the thing we needed for preserving retro software and games... I really love that project and I see there was really lots of thought put into the development, from snapable ram and snac ports, really nice!
I'm pretty heavily into this world, and every time I had a thought, it seemed to get addressed later in the video. Seems like a lot of thought went into this!
A really cool board you made here ! Thanks for making the Mister project advance ! I'm really not a fan of the case though, but I know it's very hard to come with a design that is liked by most and still answers technical requirements (SD slots, controller swapping...). I hope you'll manage to make a matte plastic injection molded case instead of 3D printed ones. It'll look much more professional, but it's quite the investment...
Being free from the usual emulator latency is a huge Mister plus for everyone who grew up with the real thing and got their brains programmed on fast machines.
That is one of the major benefits... but its also on par with real hardware, where software emulation is not. Jotego's arcade cores for example like capcom CPS are 44% more accurate than MAME. With that said, software emulation is great and it has the potential to one day be on par like FPGA in 10 or 20 years, maybe. Assuming the liberals don't destroy the planet by then.
@@NirnBootMod The accuracy part is a little wonky though. Some of the cores (sadly not all) are very accurate but many of them often still differ somewhat and do not respond 100% accurate in every situation. Some also need some fixes that may not be present in the original system to play nice with modern hw. Overall it is a very exciting angle for retro systems, also because the hardware isn't set in stone and can receive upgrades but I feel that the "on par with real hardware" argument is a little overemphasized sometimes. VS emulation think its the other way round actually. Emulation should not be superior but it might take quite some time to get many cores on par with cycle accurate emulation.
> Assuming the liberals don't destroy the planet by then.
Ah yeah I heard they keep shoehorning their agenda into debates that have nothing to do with it.
@@blitzwing1 And even latency is not a total win for FPGA. On 16-bit systems like SNES a good "software" emulator can beat FPGA emulation and original hardware for latency, with the right setup and if that is even wanted. Or it can match them of course. A lot of SNES games have 2 or 3 frames of latency built in to the way they work, total accuracy will simply recreate that but an emulator with runahead can get around it. Of course it's not true to the original experience but it's a nice option to have. Then there is lagless vsync that can get very close to the latency of older systems that don't even buffer their frames.
Before I have said that emulation is enough for me but now you have my attention and i will probably add this toy to my collection. Thank you sir!
Fantastic! I'll definitely get one when it's finished!
I just love seeing TFX and Monkey Island in the background, reminds me of my Dads office shelves back in the 90's, TFX was my favourite game for so long, and Police Quest!
That looks wonderful! Well done :) Looking forward to this immensely.
Im sold. Cant wait to get my hands on one when it goes on sale. Good work from all
Was impressed by them when i saw them in the flesh many weeks ago. Preferred the black or dark grey (not the brown famicon colours). Looking forwards to getting my hands on a final production one!
So much excellence in one video! I'm most definitely going to be getting one of these. Great work!
Holy smokes! You've a guaranteed purchase here! I'm curious about MIDI and other concerns around the 486 core. I'm also curious about that optical drive.
He said it supports MT-32 thru Pi.
This is amazing! Well done.
I've been hoping for something like this for a while as I'm not particularly thrilled of the Mister stacker. Might be my entry into FPGA.
Neil is such a classy professional guy. I wish him all the best of luck and I'll definitely be ordering one.
Fantastic work man! Been following MiSTER for a few years so I was happy to see your series last year - just haven’t gotten to building a stack. THIS is what i want - definitely going to jump on this as soon as you release!
First I was like, "oh, he made a case for the MiSTer" - but that is actually a really, really nice and professional breakout board. Still need that address for the swabs, though.
That what for the what? Can you explain it to a layman? I'm interested in this and I'd like to know if it's missing something important.
Same here! I do live the case, though. But I really like the daughter board. I already have a MiSter but I may add this too.
Same here! and didn't even liked it at first! Now I am counting the days until I can have one of these :) and the case has strong 90s vibes (it reminds me of the gx4000 even if they're not similar... maybe the SCART port does it? lol)
Take my money :) this is the best desing I have seen for the Mister so far :) And the price looks to be perfect.
Will the final case be 3d printed? Or injection moulded ABS or something?
I feel this is going to be big. The exterior is beautiful, the inside is powerful. Great port of entry for this world. I wish this operation all the best!
Really nice, definitely considering this.
Hi RMC, I have been subbed to your channel for a couple of years now and I have enjoyed many of your computer refurbs. I have just bought a 3D printed case with arcade style top notch parts, for a ultimate joystick, that I have always wanted for the 2600. The seller suggested the Mister project to me, and I in turn mentioned your channel to him. Dave suggested the makers for the main DE-10 that you mentioned, but I would rather buy the whole system from you, with the snap on mod for the 9 pin joystick port. I am disabled, so I dont have a lot of spare cash, the joystick at £30 was a huge deal for me, but after reviewing your videos on the Mister project, I feel its at a stage that is right for me. I would be grateful for details on how to buy the setup mentioned and how much it would cost. Initially I was put off, by how technical it was, but I dont rush into these things.
Hello! This system is open source now and I recommend UltimateMister.com as a supplier 👍
Upgradable onboard RAM is really nice.
@@godslayer1415 No, they've designed an expansion board and a case. The expansion board has ram onboard, they've made it so you can remove the onboard ram and upgrade it if needed. This is a good solution as integrating the ram into the expansion board allows them to reduce the cost over buying both separately, and making sure it can be removed means you don't need to ditch the expansion board if the ram fails or needs to be upgraded. If you think they've only built a case then you should actually watch the video.
While it's true upgradeable RAM is a MiSTer thing, and everything from the SNAC connectors to the various video outputs can already be done with add on boards this is the first really easy plug and play solution with an all in one board that can do almost everything. He hasn't just "made a case" at all. Basically, get your DE10-Nano, plug it in and assemble the case, stick in your SD card and you're done. If it works as well as advertised, owning a MiSTer got a lot easier.
Wow, this is great, thanks for taking this on. Will definitely be buying a few of them
That should really help make the Mister easier for the average person to get started with, and much more convenient than the stack of boards.
I will go so far as to say that looks amazing - Where do I sign up for one!
All you need to start off with the Mister is the DE10 Nano board, a ram module and an sd card, you don't need any extra boards if you just want to plug it into a tv with hdmi and play games.
That looks fantastic and will certainly help people get into the MiSTer as it can be a bit of a steep learning curve. I am particularly interested in the JAMMA aspect to it as I have one hooked up to one of my JAMMA cabs and although it works great its not pretty. Great work as usual and I hope that the electronics supply gods are on your side when it comes to delivering it.
Looks amazing. I'm really curious how much are gonna be made and sold. Looks like a really solid product.
absolutely fantastic idea and product that is buildable..... well done guys :)
Imagine a young Mr.RMC, growing up in the 80's, and being told that one day, He would be making his own console, in space year 2021!
My little mind would have been blown apart
Lander!! Ah reminds me of school, best rainy lunchtimes ever!
Me too. I came here to post the same comment!
I’ll be in for one of these!
Between the board and the case design this is EXACTLY what I've been waiting for. It would fit perfectly in a complete retro AV setup.
AnonFilly, nice
Is the final case going to be injection molded? This is looking so cool I’d love to have a real smooth high quality case like this to go with the board
I can already see one of these transparent like the old Xbox consoles were available as, that would be cool. Moulds for IM are really expensive though.
Please high quality hard case and not cheap 3d printed plastic
Also curious!
Wow you really have covered almost all bases! no doubt there was probably a few you couldnt put in but it looks like you have put a lot of time effort and research. well done!
Congratulations Neil. Strange to think that, in a way, we have your old landlord to thank for this and the penthouse cave.
Haha he's the old landlord that just keeps on giving.
This looks amazing, i love the look of the console too. well done :)
ok, that is really cool ! 🙌
Its time for a package from....... the uk! ;)
Now I wait for pre-order. Pretty neat fpga console
Would love to get my hands on one of these.
If you want an opinion from someone that speedruns and streams almost everyday, give me a shout :)
Vouch
I do not have the time nor the technical skills to put together such a project like the Mister, I feel this project is precisely for me. Count me in.
Please find a way to get one of these units to ETA Primes TH-cam Channel! I am sure he would be thrilled to review one and get the word out! This is exactly what I have been waiting for before buying my first FPGA. Thank You! BTW, how would someone invest in the producer of such a great product?
I can give you already ETA Prime's review:
"An emulation beast! here are the specs and here's me playing God of War on the PSP core. Bye."
This is something I dreamed of having when I was a kid many years ago. It's great to see and I am keen to get my hands on one.
Interesting as I've been thinking about getting into FPGA/MISTER, although the SCART location seems odd but I'm guessing it was the easiest way.
Are you in the UK? If not its much easier to just use VGA to Component cable in the back.
@@NirnBootMod I’m from the UK, still keep an old CRT for the odd time.
That said, both SCART and Component see to be disappearing from TVs over time.
@@NirnBootMod CRT usually have SCART inputs, never saw one with a component input, it started to appear with the first LCD/plasma televisions. I even have one of the last made CRT (purchased in 2006) and still only SCART input.
@@alerighi I am referring to in the United States, where there is no such thing as a CRT with Scart.
While I am not hardcore enough to go for something as authentic as this for retro game emulation, it is always a joy to see people doing their part for media preservation and I wish you all the best of luck on this project. :) I'd be lying if I didn't say I at least want to try it out and fiddle with it ha ha.
Looks great I'll be very interested in this. I'm quite new when it comes to Mister is there a ti994a core (or whatever they're called) or an atari 800 one? My own childhood computers despite being UK based. Thanks in advance!
Yes. There are more computer cores on the MiSTer than what most people would feel comfortable using.
You can find all the "official" cores at github.com/MiSTer-devel Both TI-99/4A and Atari 800 cores exist, but I can't comment on their completeness/quality. Just type in the system name where it reads "Find a repository"
You had me at the shell... once you opened it up, showed the PCB, the included add-on board hardware, included RAM module... I'm here for it. I know it's outside the scope, but I'd love to see an injection-mould version of that shell. This is basically 'final form' territory for the MiSTer.
I have talked to Neil about this, we can look at a design that could be injection moulded, but the cost for tooling is significant, so that may be where some sort of funding is needed.
@@RichRap3D no cheap 3d printed plastic please, make this product look like quality vs. a ugly homebrew project case
@@RichRap3D I'd say stick with as is for now, get the product out there, let word of mouth build and (hopefully) the orders will come in sufficient quantity to give you the confidence to see about an Injection moulded case release
Now you need to develop RMC the Game to go with your console.
There's already a RMC spectrum game I believe, it was featured in an earlier video.
That's a nice little PCB you've done there. Work in the PCB manufacturing game myself, I run the electrolytic plating lines. This is amazing, Neil!
The design of that case is really super cool, but I can’t stand 3D print lines, that’s a shame for such a cool demo project.
Just 3 hours of elbow grease filling priming and than spraying it, would really make it a 90s dream console! The shape is so awesome!
To be fair it's not exactly a mass-market item (yet). Getting ABS molds made up is still very expensive, and then there's the issue of needing to order a minimum number of units, depending on the plastics molding company.
@@TheKnobCalledTone. I understand that. But you don’t need injecting molding. You can do resin casts, certainly for a couple of hundred.
But my point is, that when you create such great products and make a promotion video on it. You should also go that extra step and. And everything look as good as the PCB.
Prepping a 3D print to be screen perfect, It will cost you no more than a few hours. And you can show of something really nice.
And after that you can actually, take another day to really finesse it, then you have great masters that you can mould and do resin casts with.
Or pay a bit more an have your great prototype powder printed. This will run you around euros (not too bad of an investment). And if you finish that off (not much to do) you have awesome masters, for mounding and resin casting.
I absolutely agree that these low volumes, wouldn’t indeed, justify naming injection moulded tooling. Even doing a 1000, would mean making 10, relatively expensive silicone moulds but still cheaper than paying the 50K for tooling and a minimum production run.
It’s that final loving touch for a reveal prototype. And when it’s rough, but you plan to make it nice, then it will serve to mention that.
Not that this would be a deal breaker for me :) I’d role your my sleeves and fill and sand it - but I rather the manufacture did ;)
You showing that picture of the Acorn Archimedes OS triggered a long lost memory in me, for years I've been trying to track down an educational game I played back in primary school and now I've found it thanks to you, it was called Time Dectectives - The Victorians, just wish I could play it again
The shape reminds me of PC Engine
It was certainly inspired by that!
@@RMCRetro it was nicely made. I really want to have one.
Outstanding! Now I understand the reason for your recent question about who planned on buying a MiSter. I will definitely be buying one of these when they are released. As others have said, it is good to know that availability will not be a problem. I am tired of seeing new products, whether they be systems or upgrades, selling out within minutes of them going in sale. Also system mods where the sellers don’t want to mass produce them, so buying them is a lottery. You guys are doing it right.
So can the unit be purchased fully assembled inside a case, ready to go with software ? Or at least the OS with included micro sd card ?
A Retro-Rabbit and it's money is quickly separated. I hope the X68000 development continues for the MiSTer. I will be purchasing this as soon as its available!
2nd question is one of custom cases - any chance of professionally printed options there for those without a printer at home? Different colours? Materials? Unique designs???
We'll be releasing the files for anyone to use freely. Further down the line if this sells well and we have a userbase who really want it I'd be happy to run a Kickstarter to raise the funds for injection moulded shells.
Please sell the thermally sensitive 3D-printed case. That is really cool.
@@YonezH It's mostly for testing thermal performance. Unfortunately these temperature sensitive additives and the UV sensitive filaments also wear out over a period of time and exposure to heat / UV - so it's not intended for long-term use. It is quite fun and you can always print a new one when it wears out.
@@RichRap3D I used to have a whole wardrobe of those T-shirts back in my raving days :)
Holy shit. I have no words. I've had a lot of interest in FPGA development and the mister project. I absolutely love projects which bring retro into the modern era like this.